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@physicianassoci

2 months

@TheBMA @DrPhilBanfield What do GP members of the BMA, already employing and supervising PAs, think of this guidance? It puts them in a really tricky situation. BMA say’s don’t let PAs see undifferentiated patients. In my PCN PAs seeing 500 patients a week, only ‘differentiated’ by receptionists.

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Physician Associate

@physicianassoci

6 months

@mmamas1973 I’m not a doctor, I’m not a substitute for a doctor, I’m not ‘playing at being a doctor’. I’ve worked in primary care for 8 years as a PHYSICIAN ASSOCIATE, I’m proud of my role. Today I saw 28 patients and was supervised by a GP. Stop spreading misinformation.

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@physicianassoci

5 months

@Xeon4f145d96s1 Wow, some doctor is really wasting their life writing this sort of thing.

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8 months

Who is the author of this article? It’s so biased

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1 month

@DrLucyDouglas Demonstrates why PAs and other non GPs should always be supervised by a GP.

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@physicianassoci

6 months

@drphiliplee1 This is in agreement with how most PAs feel.

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@physicianassoci

5 months

Lots of great PA jobs out there at the moment.

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@physicianassoci

4 months

@DrLindaDykes Have you worked with PAs? They need to discuss every patient initially, possibly the first 2 years. I’ve worked full time in GP for 8 years, it would not be a good use of anyone’s time to discuss all 30 of my patients every day

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@physicianassoci

4 months

@DocAnonX I’ve worked as a PA for 8 years, I doubt much will change. I might look at becoming a PA GP Partner as an extra challenge. PAs aren’t going anywhere and at some point you’re going to have to work with them.

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@physicianassoci

2 months

@TheBMA Fairly suitable guidance for a new PA with no healthcare experience. Not suitable when you have a background in healthcare and 9 years experience working in GP.

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@physicianassoci

8 months

@ISM_JD There are 130,000 Drs in the UK and 3,000 PAs. We’re not likely to be the ‘threat’ or ‘attack’ that you fear. I think there’s more than enough work for all of us.

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@physicianassoci

3 months

@Dr__Sarmy Considering this was a BMA survey, I’m shocked that the percentage wasn’t a lot higher.

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@physicianassoci

1 year

@veggieequallife Students, across the board, say some far fetched stuff. The majority of fully qualified professionals will take what they say with a pinch of salt.

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@physicianassoci

1 month

@OliviaCresswe12 If you have the right finances and personal circumstances then training to be a doctor is definitely the right choice. As an older, poor person with 3 kids, PA was the right choice for me. No regrets, I love my job

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@physicianassoci

4 months

@DocAnonX rude, unprofessional, arrogant.

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@physicianassoci

6 months

@ExplosiveEnema and fingers crossed the doctor you see isn’t @ExplosiveEnema

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@physicianassoci

5 months

@Doc_IonaCollins You have strong opinions in regards to Physician Associates. What is your experience of working with them?

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@physicianassoci

6 months

@danielrao007 @DrJPGannon I think you’ll find most PAs acknowledge they are not doctors. Today I saw 28 patients in GP. Their problems were diverse and included 3 x OE, 1 verruca, acne, olecranon bursitis. 1 young chap was passing blood in his stool and urine, I asked my GP supervisor to review him.

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@physicianassoci

6 months

@ExplosiveEnema Or one of their Reddit mates

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@physicianassoci

6 months

@csubbe Many PAs are older doctors from overseas who decided PA route better suited to them. An excellent use of their skills.

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@physicianassoci

6 months

@jim_crawfurd @csubbe 2 in the same cohort as me at uni. I trained when there were only 2 PA courses in the UK.

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Physician Associate

@physicianassoci

10 days

@SecretPhysician Didn’t have the time or money. Couldn’t move away and needed to see my children.

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@physicianassoci

7 months

St George's, University of London on LinkedIn: This week is Physician Associate (PA) Week, a chance...

This week is Physician Associate (PA) Week, a chance to raise awareness of the PA profession and its contributions to the nation’s health. Last week, our PA…

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@physicianassoci

2 months

@TheBMA Well that’s freed up my entire week.

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@physicianassoci

5 months

@manLikeTool @FunctionsZeta @KhyjaMccalla @ExplosiveEnema @millybrookman @KatieMorrigan @north_forum @aiysh_97 @LocumPA_Ltd @__nhm_ @ZoeCostigan @HajaraPa @KomalRaval @harriet_68 @glambystefania @Connor_Cashmore @Popoporoo87 @incognito_pa @AnalysisDrawer Actually, PAs first worked in the UK under Labour government and we are not your ‘assistants’. Maybe you need to get your facts in order before having an opinion @manLikeTool

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@physicianassoci

7 months

@Dr_Done_ @RobSetters Wow, that’s a lot.

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@physicianassoci

5 months

@Doc_IonaCollins You have such strong opinions and spend so much time on here commenting negatively about PAs. I’m wondering how those opinions formed. Also, continuously misnaming us ‘Physician Assistants’. Not what I’d expect from someone in such a senior and influential position.

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Physician Associate

@physicianassoci

6 months

@ishsulin As a student I got a lot of my procedures signed off in the afternoon. No medical students to be seen after 1pm, where do they all go in the afternoon?

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Physician Associate

@physicianassoci

4 months

@drmattuk @Molly2323232323 @JoOgidi I work at the surgery full time, I’m there every day. No doctors work every day. I bring continuity.

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@physicianassoci

5 months

@timricketts_ They didn’t really need an ambulance then?

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Physician Associate

@physicianassoci

6 months

@JackieWaghorn @iDrSunny @ExplosiveEnema @FPARCP @parthaskar @Dr_Done_ @mouseter_chef @TomStocks1982 @doctor_katie @mmamas1973 @AlisonGeorge10 @Doc_IonaCollins @actor_joshua I work alongside a Partner GP, he will frequently issue prescriptions immediately and they will be at the in house pharmacy when the patient gets there.

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@physicianassoci

6 months

@Meghpai @dr_irfan_malik I’m not telling you to ‘shut up’. Just highlighting that you’ve never worked with a PA but have jumped on the bandwagon in any case. Not a characteristic I’ve encountered with many GPs.

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@physicianassoci

8 months

@anthonyrobertlu It’s the same for physician associates but only on Twitter

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@physicianassoci

5 months

@Hugh_Pearson_ @NHSHighland @scotgovhealth Hugh, as you probably know, but just in case you don’t. Physician Assistant is a completely different, Band 4 role.

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@physicianassoci

6 months

@Meghpai @dr_irfan_malik Can’t really comment on PAs if you’ve never even worked with one

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@physicianassoci

2 years

@anonPA5 Stop it, stop being so ridiculous

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@physicianassoci

2 months

@Okletsgo000 @PPaauk YES !!!!!

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@physicianassoci

2 years

@anjibennett @Naomimiii Well, the pharmacists can sign the scripts and ANPs and PA can check, action and file the bloods. Hence freeing up doctors to focus on more complex and highly skilled work.

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@physicianassoci

8 months

@Xeon4f145d96s1 What a pointless course to pay for. A Physician Associate shouldn’t put Dr before their name. It’s dangerous.

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@physicianassoci

4 months

@TheBMA Regulation by the GMC will help to highlight the difference between the two roles. Both roles work to the medical model so it makes sense for GMC to be the regulator.

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Physician Associate

@physicianassoci

1 month

@First_Neptunian Don’t feel sorry for us. Great job, good pay, part of a fantastic supportive team. I’ve had other careers and this is, by far, the best.

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@physicianassoci

4 months

@Dr_Done_ It would be fantastic if Drs opposed to working with PAs wore white coats, brilliant idea

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@physicianassoci

7 months

@Karolis_Rozanas @RobSetters @c_chief24 @mmamas1973 Totally agree. PAs are in the firing line. PAs are seeing 1000s of patients every day in GP surgeries in the UK. We need regulation and appropriate supervision to continue to do so. Recent negative publicity by a minority is hindering this.

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@physicianassoci

1 month

@OliviaCresswe12 There are accusations on X of PAs lacking in intelligence, training and ability. It’s bound to put some people off becoming PAs. That’s a real shame. I’ve been happily working away as a PA for the last 9 years. The GPs I work with are incredibly supportive. Love my job.

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@physicianassoci

6 months

@BMA_James_Steen @Bonivorlewis I work more hours than my GP colleagues because I’m full time and they aren’t

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@physicianassoci

5 months

@Doc_IonaCollins @Jacob_Rees_Mogg We’ve been called Physician Associates for over 20 years. It’s @Doc_IonaCollins and a bunch of anonymous junior doctors on Twitter who insist on calling us Physician Assistants to try and undermine our role.

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Physician Associate

@physicianassoci

5 months

Another great opportunity for PAs. It seems more jobs in increasingly diverse areas of medicine are becoming available. Great news for student PAs, newly qualified and those looking for a change of role.

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@physicianassoci

22 days

@thatsnotmine125 @DrBoofle dr A Non = dr Done’s other account

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@physicianassoci

4 months

@OrthopaedicOz What happens when you have to interact with a PA at work. Are you as obnoxious as you are on here?

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@physicianassoci

6 months

@Dr_BellaR Wow

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@physicianassoci

6 months

@Meghpai @dr_irfan_malik Is that your experience from working with PAs? Newly qualified PAs certainly need a lot of supervision. Surgeries get £5000 per PA to help with this additional supervision.

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@physicianassoci

6 months

@sh_abbers @PAalice19 I’d rather see Alice than any GP at the surgery where I’m registered. She thorough, easy to talk to and would seek guidance if needed.

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@physicianassoci

4 months

@drokane Another arrogant post by a doctor. Doctors and Physician Associates work together very successfully in many medical settings. PAs can perform a vast array of medical jobs and always have a consultant level supervisor.

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@physicianassoci

6 months

@parthaskar @Michaelgraye PA is one of the most racially diverse professions. Many PAs were awarded their initial degrees outside of the UK, a number of doctors from overseas have trained and work as PAs.

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@physicianassoci

6 months

@LukeAmos__ Even as a PA of 8 years experience I get supervised by a GP Partner every day for every patient. A highly experienced doctor who wants to work with PAs. It’s a fantastic, well supported job role that I enjoy very much my much🙂

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Physician Associate

@physicianassoci

4 months

@cannula_service @DocAnonX But defined scope can only come with regulation. BMA trying to prevent that, drawing the process out further and all the time more and more PAs joining the profession.

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@physicianassoci

4 months

@WelshWizatd @AliJaneMoore I’ve worked as a PA for 8 years and highly recommend it as a career for your daughter. I have not met any of the animosity towards PAs that you see on X or Reddit. I retrained as a PA in my thirties and have no regrets. I love my job. I get paid approximately half of what GPs do.

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@physicianassoci

4 months

@Rozewicz @DocMeezbah @wendyburn No PA has ever or will ever get paid as much as you. Stop making up rubbish

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@physicianassoci

6 months

@doctor_katie I hadn’t heard of GPC England before I read your post. What do you do?

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@physicianassoci

6 months

@IncogAssociate Actually it’s more like 1000 doctors to each PA.

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@physicianassoci

4 months

@beckstweetering @DrLindaDykes Thank you for talking some sense.

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@physicianassoci

6 months

@LittlePersonDoc @Doc_IonaCollins So that we can become registered. Then the scope of role can be fully outlined and regulated. In the future PAs might also be able to take additional training in order to become prescribers.

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@physicianassoci

4 months

@ImranaKhan60 @DocAnonX Partner Physician Associate in General Practice would be the full title!!

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@physicianassoci

6 months

@EMDrAnon @CheekyClackers @Hugh_Pearson_ Have a look at the PA register and you’ll see it’s a very diverse profession

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@physicianassoci

6 months

@BMA_James_Steen @TheSalariedPA @Bonivorlewis It’s you that brought up the same old argument again. Yes, JDs need to be paid more but comparing doctors and PAs all the time is helping

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@physicianassoci

8 months

@DrSarmyBarmy @Xeon4f145d96s1 I’ve met a number of overseas doctors who’ve trained as UK PAs and medical students transferred over to the PA course. Very sensible choice. Train quicker, leave uni fully qualified and not a trainee, get paid appropriately. Junior doctors are not paid enough but not PAs fault.

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Physician Associate

@physicianassoci

4 months

@Roddy_Neilson I have many many conversations with patients where I tell them I’m not a doctor. Only once have they asked to see someone else afterwards. I arranged (GP agreed with my dx of viral urti). I worry that once in the room most patients aren’t brave enough to request a doctor.

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@physicianassoci

8 months

@TomStocks1982 @wesstreeting No. Junior Doctors help PAs and PAs help them in return. It’s team work They are both supervised by Consultants. I totally agree with pay restoration for doctors. You continuously making inaccurate comparisons with PAs is detrimental to that

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@physicianassoci

2 months

@DrHFRyan Have you ever worked with a PA?

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1 month

@OliviaCresswe12 If you don’t do it you will regret it. But be nice to PAs when you come across them😂

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@physicianassoci

7 months

@mmamas1973 The comments after the Daily Mail article are very interesting

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1 month

@OliviaCresswe12 Good for you, don’t listen to anyone, especially anyone on X, trying to put you off.

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@physicianassoci

4 months

@caroll_ste87889 Wonder if Caufield 88 using their own details to write that sort of stuff

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@physicianassoci

6 months

@derangedmedanon There are only 3000 qualified PAs in the UK. How can there possibly be the problem you are claiming?

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@physicianassoci

8 months

@TomStocks1982 @wesstreeting Physician Associates are supervised by Consultant Doctors or GPs. They are never supervised by FY1s. Full time Consultants earn over £100,000 per year. But you already know that.

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@physicianassoci

7 months

@DrsSlim @Expo1222222 @Dr_Done_ @dr_merritt more

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@physicianassoci

2 months

@OliviaCresswe12 What shall we chat about?

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@physicianassoci

8 months

@hkg294 I totally agree. No PA should put Dr before their name. I think we should start putting PA before our names.

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@physicianassoci

6 months

@mcdade_22 @dr_irfan_malik Unemployed GPs ??? Where are you based? Where I work surgeries literally fight to get newly qualified GPs to join them as salaried. The same surgeries can’t afford the ludicrous locum rates.

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@physicianassoci

4 months

@ispy62872081 @TomStocks1982 Yes

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@physicianassoci

4 months

@IVfacts @DocAnonX It’s beyond what would be sensible at my age!

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@physicianassoci

2 years

@cannula_service @aussieindeen @CTAbdoPelvis I doubt that the PAs are ‘operating’ but they might be assisting the surgeon and, very likely, the surgeons of the future. Team work

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@physicianassoci

6 months

@dr_irfan_malik @Xeon4f145d96s1 Employ less salaried GPs then and go back to using locums

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@physicianassoci

10 months

@efcpak Doctors don’t get paid less than Physician Associates

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@physicianassoci

2 months

@skb_09 @DrAsifQasim @NHSEngland @rcgp @ClareGerada 8 yrs as a PA in primary care. I still have a named GP partner as a supervisor for every session. They have 20 mins per session to ‘debrief’ and check all of my consults. Occasionally I need to to ask them to come and check a patient F2F. I see 30 patients a day. It works.

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4 months

@SixSigmaCapital @OrthopaedicOz Another hadn’t practiced for a long time, older, going back to work after kids. Also works in primary care

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7 months

@chriscraigCCC @Molly2323232323 @iDrSunny In what way are they ‘scary as shit’ ?

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6 months

@BMA_James_Steen @TheSalariedPA @Bonivorlewis Maybe doctors rotas should be renamed ‘clinical rota’ and then any suitably experienced clinician could be on it

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@physicianassoci

4 months

@ABarotchi1 @ellorakamineni @JoshuaSoane The way some doctors make negative sweeping statements about PAs! Have you even worked with one Ahmad?

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@physicianassoci

4 months

@DrLindaDykes @MHA_92_ @InfoPars There’s loads of Drs in training right now, we’re not going to run out. There’s only 3000 PAs in the country compared to 400,000 doctors. PAs help out by doing the work that doesn’t require a doctor, thereby allowing them to do the stuff which requires 15 years of training

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@physicianassoci

4 months

@OrthopaedicOz You have no idea. I had 15 years of relevant work experience and a 1st class science degree when I changed career to be a Physician Associate. I’ve worked with a PA who was a doctor in Pakistan and a PA who was previously a nurse for many years.

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@physicianassoci

6 months

@DrJonathanD @drp297 😂

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6 months

@BMA_James_Steen @TheSalariedPA @Bonivorlewis You are going round and round with yourself 😂

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@physicianassoci

10 months

@RoshanaMN This is why surgeries often struggle with newly qualified PAs. A lot of supervision for little return. But, if correctly supervised and developed they can become a great asset to the team. Our PCN now only advertises for experienced PAs for this reason.

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@physicianassoci

6 months

@danielrao007 @DrJPGannon I’m open to sensible debate regarding Physician Associates.

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2 months

@AnalysisDrawer @mark_toshner 😂

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1 month

@OliviaCresswe12 If you’ve got the finances, no dependants and can be flexible about where you live then medicine is definitely the way to go xx

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6 months

@ClinOncDoc @BMA_James_Steen @drcolinm @gmcuk @NHSE_WTE FY1s don’t supervise PAs, so the salary comparison is invalid. The consultants and GPs who supervise us get paid > £100,000, and rightly so.

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3 months

@ABarotchi1 Are you Dr Done?

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3 months

@danielrao007 @theveindoc Our purpose is not to ‘assist doctors’. Physician Associates are here to share some of the work load with other HCPs. I think you might be getting mixed up with the Band 4 Physicians Assistant role again.

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