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@Molly2323232323
Erin
2 months
Keep hearing that PAs have studied 2 years of medicine No, they have not PAs have studied two years of PA studies, an unaccredited & unregulated course Nobody can explain what PA studies is... Just as nobody can actually explain what the role of a PA is...
@Doc_IonaCollins
Iona Collins.DOCTOR.
2 months
This is not an isolated experience. I know of PAs from different UK locations reporting that they have been told they are having a crash course in medicine, condensing everything Drs know into 2 yrs, like a super-intense medical degree. Say it often enough and it sounds true.
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@Dr_Done_ "Being a safe practitioner is making mistakes and learning from them" No, it's really not This is not baking a cake where you can afford to keep making mistakes until you perfect the recipe Patients are people They are not guinea pigs for PAs to make mistakes with
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@Molly2323232323
Erin
2 months
@IncogAssociate The guidance is for your supervising doctors Doctors who choose to supervise PAs/AAs will use guidance to ensure safe supervision Some doctors may choose to ignore the guidance... But would be pretty hard to defend that decision if a patient suffers any harm, wouldn't it?
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PAs go to PA school, do PA studies & PANE exam Doctors go to medical school, study medicine & do MLA exam. Doctors then do postgraduate training & exams. TWO entirely separate & discrete paths And NEVER THE TWAIN SHALL MEET No crossover No equivalence No comparison
@ExplosiveEnema2
ExplosiveEnema
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PAs being given direct access to the Foundation Programme While Foundation Drs across the country are sat on placement lists, unsure where they are going to live @NavinaEvans , why are these posts not going to Drs? Why are Drs being replaced? Credit: @Dr_Done_ @AliJaneMoore
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@Molly2323232323
Erin
5 months
Maybe she only did two years training in the political model?
@DrOKaneAgain
๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Dr Kevin O'Kane ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ
5 months
Can we please ask @VictoriaAtkins to spend her 3-week Christmas holiday mastering her brief? Now she knows that physiciansโ€™ assistants earn more than junior doctors, she can make a fair offer to junior doctors & stop the strikes. Patients deserve better.
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Erin
2 months
@PPaauk Why would FPA have anything to do with defining and setting scope? PA is not a profession PAs are dependent & must work under the supervision of a consultant doctor/GP The supervising doctors will define and set the scope. Do PAs really not understand this?
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Erin
3 months
Hahahaha This is the most ridiculous thing that PAs have ever done...(and believe me, that is saying something!) Loving the 50 HOURS of CPD being equivalent of 2 YEARS of GP training... There's just too much to laugh at!
@UMAPsUK
UMAPs.org.uk
3 months
โ›”๏ธ Rebuttal An infographic with misinformation is currently being shared on social media. We corrected it for you ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿšจ MAPs, share away! #PhysicianAssociate #AnaesthesiaAssociate #MAPs #UMAPs #MedicalAssociateProfessionals #๐Ÿ™
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@Molly2323232323
Erin
2 months
Keep hearing that PAs have studied 2 years of medicine No, they have not PAs have studied two years of PA studies, an unaccredited & unregulated course Nobody can explain what PA studies is... Just as nobody can actually explain what the role of a PA is...
@Adam_Skeen
Adam Skeen
2 months
@LittlePersonDoc @RCPhysicians Yeah, pretty much. We were told we were covering most of the same clinical content and sitting exams from the same question bank. I now know this clearly was not the case.
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Well as @drkeithsiau says: "Doctors in general should remain professional on social media as the content we post stays on record and could have consequences." But why then has @drkeithsiau deleted his own content?
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@Molly2323232323
Erin
4 months
This is the plan We'll hear: "PAs don't need to be supervised by consultant doctor/GP" Followed by: "PAs don't need to be supervised by a doctor, they can be supervised by a "senior" PA." And finally: "PAs don't need to be supervised by anyone. PAs are independent."
@iDrSunny
Dr Sandeep Bansal
4 months
You know precisely where this is heading - we will have โ€˜leadโ€™ or โ€˜principalโ€™ PAs or consultant ACPs who will be supervising these PAs soon - citing the โ€˜loss of efficiencyโ€™ Yet this is artificially created loss of efficiency by not creating enough GPs - who donโ€™t needโ€ฆ
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Is that why you choose to train PAs instead of trainee doctors? @drkeithsiau Some might say: "A bad workman blames his tools."
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Erin
5 months
Wow! Even the RESPITORY system is on the curriculum...
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Erin
2 months
Remind us, did @gmcuk ask their paying members before they agreed to register/regulate PAs/AAs?
@hkg294
Heather Reid
2 months
But I'm disappointed because I feel like this is a lost opportunity. There was no engagement with any other stakeholders, there was no seeing any other point of view
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@Molly2323232323
Erin
2 months
@IncogAssociate Why does it need to be agreed with them? Oh, did GMC agree registration/regulation of MAPs with doctors?
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@glambystefania @manLikeTeaa @SecretPhysician Are you telling us that YOU make the decision to stop medications? And then ask a doctor to physically stop the medication? Something that you as a dependent PA are not trained or qualified to do Oh, and it's also illegal for PAs to do this
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@Molly2323232323
Erin
3 months
PA explaining what a PA is Jesus wept โ€œIโ€™m one of the haematology team.Iโ€™m a physician associate. That means Iโ€™m not a doctor. I might look like a doctor, I do lots of things that traditionally only a doctor might do, but itโ€™s important for you to understand Iโ€™m not a doctorโ€'.
@medicalmodelbri
@medicalmodelwithabriochebun
3 months
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@Molly2323232323
Erin
5 months
@NHSE_WTE Here we go... The pathway already exists. It's called GEM-graduate entry medicine. But why not just use the fully trained GPs who are currently unemployed because ARRS funding doesn't include GPs?
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GMC states that the doctor โ€˜must be confident that the colleague [they] delegate to has the necessary knowledge, skills, & training to carry out the task, or that they will be adequately supervised to ensure safe care.โ€™ MUST be confident So nothing can be delegated to PAs/AAs
@VishwajeetP4t3l
Vishwajeet Patel
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Great document by the FPA, especially providing further clarity and reassurance regarding MAPS scope, supervision and liability!
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Erin
2 months
@OReillyGem Patients in UK are desperate to see an actual GP Instead fully qualified GPs are being replaced by physician associates
@GPonlinenews
GPonline
2 months
Same-day access plans 'could leave one GP supervising 100 patient visits a day' #GPnews
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Erin
3 months
One hour to go through EVERYTHING gastrointestinal... #ThePAProject #AskForADoctor #nhs #patientsafety
@DrAmirKhanGP
Dr Amir Khan GP
3 years
Teaching postgraduate physician associates this lunchtime...going through everything gastrointestinal! Theyโ€™re very clever so need to bring my A-game!
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Erin
3 months
Just imagine if all the time, energy & money which is currently being spent on PAs & AAs was actually invested in doctors... Just imagine if ALL consultant doctors supported their 'junior' doctors in the same way as they support PAs/AAs... #ThePAProject #nhs #patientsafety
@GeorgesUrology
St George's Urology
3 months
1/4 It is sad to see the very public onslaught on Physicianย  Associates. We are a unit with a proud history of teaching, training and investing in our junior doctors at all levels. We are an @RCSnews accredited fellowship training centre in Robotic surgery ( @IntuitiveSurg )
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@Molly2323232323
Erin
2 months
Hearing a lot of talk about how PAs/AAs have been misled & should be compensated I would argue that medical students and doctors have been misled, and treated appallingly In fact, they have been and continue to be treated far worse than PAs/AAs Will doctors be compensated?
@gaswomancometh
Rosie C ๐Ÿ’™
2 months
What do I think about AAs? I wish Iโ€™d been one. Iโ€™d be at least ยฃ50k better off with amazing training. Iโ€™d be spending my life giving anaesthetics in daytime hours. Theyโ€™re living the dream while medics are in the bin. Medics must stay in the bin & #BeKind . Or else. <ends>
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Two years of PA studies is NOT equivalent to two years of medicine & two years of PA studies is most certainly NOT equivalent to a degree in medicine If you're saying that it is, you're going to be paying out a lot of money to compensate medical students & doctors
@ExplosiveEnema2
ExplosiveEnema
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PAs being given direct access to the Foundation Programme While Foundation Drs across the country are sat on placement lists, unsure where they are going to live @NavinaEvans , why are these posts not going to Drs? Why are Drs being replaced? Credit: @Dr_Done_ @AliJaneMoore
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Erin
2 months
The #RCPEGM went well Thank you @RCPhysicians for confirming what we already knew: - RCP is knowingly responsible for PA/AA debacle - RCP has no interest in sorting out the mess they have made - RCP has no interest in protecting #NHS patients BUT RCP WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE
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Erin
7 months
@ColinaCoco PA is not a profession PAs are dependent and require supervision. The mistakes of PAs are carried by the supervising consultant/GP So no, PAs do not 'bear the weight of responsibility that sometimes our errors cost lives'. And no, it's not bullying, it's about patient safety
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Erin
4 months
Except doctors are not in short supply...
@NHSE_WTE
NHS England Workforce, Training and Education
5 months
"Physician associates can be a vital support when doctors are in short supply.
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Erin
2 months
@docib But how will they be able to google everything as per latest @gmcuk guidance?
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Erin
2 months
Why would FPA have anything to do with defining and setting scope? PA is not a profession PAs are dependent & must work under the supervision of a consultant doctor/GP The supervising doctors will define and set the scope. Do PAs really not understand this?
@PPaauk
Physician Associate Association UK (PAAUK)
2 months
NHS Employers acknowledges that todayโ€™s BMA guidance on scope for another professional group was developed without input from FPA or MAPs. MAPs are not BMA members. Employers responds to BMA guidance on the role of MAPs | NHS Employers
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Erin
8 months
This is statement from @FPARCP Where is the statement from @RCPhysicians ? Why are @RCPhysicians council not supporting and representing their actual paying members-DOCTORS?
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Erin
4 months
Why are PAs getting subsidised prices? They are NOT members of @RCPhysicians And they are NOT trainees
@RCPhysicians
Royal College of Physicians
4 months
Get ready for Medicine 2024! At past events, weโ€™ve been joined by 1,400 delegates for interactive learning, networking and wellbeing activities. Join us on April 25โ€“26 at the RCP at Regentโ€™s Park in London and online for another insightful conference.
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Erin
5 months
But PAs and AAs have never wanted to be doctors And PAs and AAs would never want to train be doctors And PAs and AAs would never draw any false equivalence with doctors So where are all the PAs and AAs rushing to tell us what a stupid suggestion this is?
@NHSE_WTE
NHS England Workforce, Training and Education
5 months
"If we want to tackle the crisis in GP numbers, we should establish a pathway for physician associates to go on to train as doctors and for newly qualified doctors to go straight into five yearsโ€™ training as GPs."
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It's actually a verb But as always, @IncogAssociate likes to highlight that PAs really do need to go back and learn the basics
@IncogAssociate
IncogPA
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scapegoating noun [u] blaming Physician Associates for issues that predate Physician Associates. the act of blaming a person or group for something bad that has happened or that someone else has done: E.g. the scapegoating of PAs for the problems faced by UK doctors.
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Erin
3 months
@UMAPsUK Hahahaha This is the most ridiculous thing that PAs have ever done...(and believe me, that is saying something!) Loving the 50 HOURS of CPD being equivalent of 2 YEARS of GP training... There's just too much to laugh at!
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Erin
2 months
Where to begin with this? PA is NOT a profession PAs are NOT medics Fully qualified doctors are being replaced by PAs. Just ask @DrNeenaJha @bbchealth @BBCNews @OReillyGem
@drmattuk
Dr Matt Kneale
2 months
Ladies and gentleman, your future MAPs union. @UMAPsUK sent this as a professional press release. No, really. Some notes: - I don't have a website? - My "locum wallet lining" has seen me earn less than I earned as a salaried FY1!
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Erin
8 months
Why do so many PAs believe that they study 'three years of medicine in 9 months'? @FPARCP @RCPhysicians #physicianassistant #physicianassociate
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Erin
6 months
Is it safe for PAs to see UNDIFFERENTIATED patients in GP? NO, it is not. We must wait for @gmcuk to issue guidance...
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UK is the laughing stock of the world
@DavidUrwin94
David Urwin
27 days
An example of how UK healthcare is viewed from abroad. Our primary care system is seen as an example of how not to run a service. A sad state of affairs.
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Erin
3 months
@drmattuk @JanetEastham @TheDA_UK @TheBMA This is why #ThePAProject must end NOW This is not a game This is affecting #NHS patients every single day Real people & their families are suffering Sadly, what has happened in the past cannot be undone, BUT action MUST be taken to prevent further patient harm & deaths
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Are you telling us that YOU make the decision to stop medications? And then ask a doctor to physically stop the medication? Something that you as a dependent PA are not trained or qualified to do Oh, and it's also illegal for PAs to do this
@glambystefania
Stefania
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@manLikeTeaa @SecretPhysician Take things into context. The responsibility ultimately relies on me for that task to be done!!! If I donโ€™t tell the doctor to do it and my patient deteriorates whoโ€™s fault do you think it is ? The doctor I didnโ€™t make aware of? Please relax.
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Erin
5 months
The end is not in sight.. @gmcuk have said they will REGISTER AAs and PAs However, @gmcuk have also said that they will NOT REGULATE AAs and PAs This is becoming a bigger and bigger mess by the day...
@ukmat82
Matt Harris โœ‹
5 months
Since the inception of Anaesthesia Associates (then anaesthetic practitioners) , AAs have been told by many we need regulation and registration, thankfully the end is almost insight, it been a far too long time coming. (This should have been done years ago)
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PA students should be placed only with PAs NEVER doctors ALL doctors should refuse to supervise PA students End this now
@GradMedic01
GraduateMedic
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@AlisonGeorge10 @AngliaRuskin @mmamas1973 @DrAsifQasim @HelenRSalisbury @DrSteveTaylor @Doc_IonaCollins @parthaskar @VictoriaTzB @doctor_katie @UKGastroDr @mouseter_chef Itโ€™s really demoralising. Placements are absolutely saturated with students so thereโ€™s extra tension due to competition for opportunities, and medical students arenโ€™t prioritised for things I feel we should be eg. last year I had to shadow a 2nd year PA student in GP ๐Ÿ™ƒ
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Erin
6 months
There is NO EVIDENCE to show that PAs and AAs are safe. There is NO EVIDENCE to show that PAs and AAs are cost-effective. In fact, there is NO EVIDENCE to show any benefit at all from PAs or AAs.
@c_chief24
Chanceeth
6 months
@NHSE_WTE ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿฝ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿฝ Open letter to the BMA regarding regulation and supervision. Letter sent to Professor Philip Banfield, BMA Chair, 22 November 2023 #physicianassociate @FPARCP @RCPhysicians @gmcuk
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Erin
3 months
There is no role for PAs or AAs End #ThePAProject NOW End #TheAAProject NOW Clinical assistant to help with admin and basic clinical tasks? Yes, that would be helpful. That's band 4 pay #nhs #patientsafety
@ItsnotrightUK
The NHS Whistleblower
3 months
@RCPhysicians @NHSEngland A PA has no business clerking patients in ED, seeing pts in GP or managing patients in resus. You need to define the scope of work and limit how trusts use them. They are a amazing resource but to help doctors with admin and as runners not play doctors and risk and cost lives
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Erin
8 months
This is what PAs are being told on their two year course #physicianassistant #physicianassociate
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Erin
2 months
This is beyond belief now @RCPhysicians need to get their act together before the EGM tomorrow No way that @DrSarahClarke can chair the EGM now Thank goodness for the integrity of the fellows listed on this letter
@trishgreenhalgh
Trisha Greenhalgh
2 months
Tomorrow (13 March), there will be an Extraordinary General Meeting of the Royal College of Physicians on Physician Associates. We called this meeting because of concerns about patient safety. Please read and circulate our STATEMENT OF CONCERN about how the EGM is being set up.
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This may be an own goal from @AoMRC Excluding @TheBMA paves the way for @TheBMA to take a much harder stance Expect @TheBMA will be issuing further guidance advising doctors to stop supervising PAs/AAs altogether...
@BMA_JuniorDocs
Junior Doctors
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We are extremely disappointed @AoMRC has excluded @TheBMA from a meeting to discuss MAPs and doctors in training despite the inclusion of other key stakeholders including @NHSEngland , @gmcuk and ATDC. [1/3]
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Erin
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@19MW98
Mary Whitby ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ
3 months
@MerseyPensioner members held @C_MPartnership to account over replacing doctors w cheaper, unqualified staff & the lack of accountability of this board which holds power over what rationed postcode lottery of services are on offer. Services cut to make profit
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Erin
3 months
@DrAmirKhanGP One hour to go through EVERYTHING gastrointestinal... #ThePAProject #AskForADoctor #nhs #patientsafety
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Erin
2 months
@fascinatorfun Would you be surprised to learn that all those who work for @GMCUK are given private medical cover? So none of those working for @gmcuk will ever have to see a PA or AA
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Just imagine how doctors who are unemployed or being made redundant must feel... PAs/AAs should be grateful that they only gave up 2 years of their life to do PA studies
@medicalmodelbri
@medicalmodelwithabriochebun
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@TheBMA @RobLaurensonD4P @BMA_James_Steen @parthaskar @DrNeenaJha @doctor_oxford The BMA scope guidance is making an impact in GP surgeries . Interesting to see the PAs views on this . Threats of legal challenges โ€ฆ. What a mess this whole thing has turned out to be
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@BMA_JuniorDocs @AoMRC @TheBMA @NHSEngland @gmcuk Why exclude @TheBMA ? Something to hide? Trying to push something through which you know @TheBMA will not agree with? "Payback" because @TheBMA issued scope guidance for MAPs?
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Erin
5 months
You really should have spent the time researching and explaining to the British public why physician associates (assistants to doctors) are paid more than fully qualified doctors. Why are fully qualified doctors being replaced by PAs and AAs? @VictoriaAtkins
@VictoriaAtkins
Victoria Atkins
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Erin
2 months
Looks like the PA "union" has done zero training in the trade union model
@pulsetoday
PulseToday
2 months
PA union warns of legal action against GP practices using BMA guidance #PAs #MAPs #BMA
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Erin
2 months
@PPaauk I suppose it's a bit like how @gmcuk didn't consult doctors before they agreed to register PAs/AAs...
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Erin
4 months
Dear God, Please make her stop.
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Erin
2 months
@ranelagh75 @IncogAssociate Absolutely! And why would FPA have anything to do with defining and setting scope? PAs are dependent & must work under the supervision of a consultant doctor/GP The supervising doctors will define and set the scope. Do PAs really not understand this?
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Employing "more staff in general practice" is not helping Need to employ more GPs AND retain the GPs that you already have Why not take the ARRS funding & the pharmacy first funding & add it to the global sum? GP practices can then spend this money employing actual GPs
@ChrisHopsonNHS
Chris Hopson
1 month
In our primary care recovery plan we said we'd increase appointments, employ more staff in General Practice and tackle the 8 oโ€™ clock rush. We delivered over 348 million appointments in 2023 โ€“ 19.4 million more than 2022 and nearly 1.4 million appointments every working day...7/x
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Erin
3 months
Just imagine if a PA caused a patient harm The patient takes legal action against the PA's 'supervising' GP for clinical negligence Could @rcgp also be liable for allowing PAs to work unsupervised in primary care? End #ThePAProject now #patientsafety #nhs
@ExplosiveEnema2
ExplosiveEnema
3 months
Hi @RCGP You say in this article that there were errors in the case study... Yet here is a podcast of the same PA saying they see 28 patients a day... Consisting of "anything and everything", including babies What was the error? @pulsetoday
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Erin
2 months
If only this was not so serious... Because it's absolutely hilarious The peer telling the story of how a PA told her poor husband that his burnt mouth could be cancer & referring urgently... Is surely an example of why #ThePAProject must end But no, she supports the SI
@natalieben
Natalie Bennett
2 months
Debate about to start. You can watch here
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Erin
4 months
The government is trying to push this legislation through on the quiet. It's happening on Wednesday 17th January 2024. Will @UKLabour MPs be opposing this legislation?
@Xeon4f145d96s1
platinumpizzaโ„ข
4 months
โ€œTheโ€ฆPAโ€ฆfound to be involved in a number of serious events, including missing a brain haemorrhage. We had one report at Aberdeen that suggested a PA has held the consultant bleep in the stroke speciality.โ€ When will we stop screaming #elitism #bekind ?
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Erin
3 months
Has only 55 minutes been allocated to the PA issue? @rcgp You're going to need the full day... End #ThePAProject now
@uwa_ie
Uwa Ima-Edomwonyi
3 months
Issues discussed and your views/opinions will be collated and taken to the RCGP council meeting, by your Faculty council rep, which will take place on 8th March 2024 Check your region / faculty, and get in touch asap! ๐ŸงตEnd 8/8
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Erin
2 months
@natalieben @TheGreenParty That would be incredibly unfair If PAs wish to study medicine, they should apply via the usual channels for GEM GEM is very competitive so there should be no free passes into GEM for PAs
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Erin
5 months
Maybe she only did two years training in the political model?
@JoOgidi
Ogidi ๐Ÿ’ฏ
5 months
I have sympathies for ministers in these kind of situations but I'd also say for hot topics they are expecting, they need to be briefed better. I know she hasn't been in the post for long and did her very best in the situation, but could be better.
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Erin
7 months
Well can doctors demand that DR goes in front of their GMC number? There has got to be an obvious difference especially for patients @gmcuk @TheBMA
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Erin
2 months
@SecretPhysician Patient was seen by PA at GP practice at 3pm? Then PA calls OOH GP at 6pm ish? Where was the patient between 3pm & 6pm? In the gp surgery? Or had the patient been sent home by PA? Where was the PA's supervising GP? Why was PA asking OOH GP, and not their supervising GP?
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Erin
2 months
Is this real reason why @RCPhysicians are annoyed with @TheBMA for issuing supervision guidance? @DrSarahClarke Why were paying members of @RCPhysicians NOT consulted before RCP agreed to house @FPARCP & piggyback PAs into RCP? Look at the mess that @RCPhysicians has caused
@drmattuk
Dr Matt Kneale
2 months
Concerning to hear that some of the @RCPhysicians senior leadership is allegedly recommending to vote down an EGM motion without gathering elected councillors views.
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Erin
2 months
@trishacurran23 @medicalmodelbri @parthaskar What is their value? What do then add to multidisciplinary practice?
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Erin
2 months
Might be wise for @RCPhysicians to take legal advice about the things they have admitted in the #RCPEGM ... Any patients & their families who come to harm IN THE FUTURE because of the PA/AA roll-out will now be able to take legal action against @RCPhysicians
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platinumpizzaโ„ข
2 months
Back to it, this clip talks about the fiscal and fiduciary responsibilities the RCP have. Although not shown in this particular clip (I'll include it in the thread later), mentions of millions in reparations/ law-suits/ class actions is made.
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Erin
4 months
"It's hard to draw firm lines in terms of scope of practice." Errmmm, then how on earth will @gmcuk regulate the PAs and AAs???
@quackophage
Ronald MacDonald
4 months
@AnaesUnited Oh but it gets better! Apparently in Scotland, it's now down to individuals to decide their own scope?!
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Erin
2 months
Why are @FPARCP giving their opinion on the @RCPhysicians EGM motions?
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Erin
3 months
Is this the same Leeds trust where PAs have been illegally requesting ionising radiation? End #ThePAProject now End #TheAAProject now #nhs #patientsafety
@ExplosiveEnema2
ExplosiveEnema
3 months
@Dr__Chloe @19MW98 @DrHuw I came across this in my travels Hopefully it gives you an idea...
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Erin
2 months
@GMB @susannareid100 @edballs Keep hearing that physician associates have studied 2 years of medicine No, they have not PAs have studied 2 years of PA studies, an unaccredited & unregulated course Nobody can explain what PA studies is... Just as nobody can actually explain what the role of a PA is...
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Erin
3 months
Generalist practitioner? What new fresh hell is this???
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@glambystefania @manLikeTeaa @SecretPhysician No, you are dependent. Responsibility always lies with your supervising doctor.
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Erin
4 months
Don't worry @KeeleyMP , you did your best. There was no debate, we all saw that it was a done deal from the start of the committee meeting today But thank you for trying
@KeeleyMP
Barbara Keeley ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ
4 months
@medicalmodelbri I'm on the Committee to debate the SI on Physician's associates but the Government has a majority on these committees.
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Erin
3 months
Huge respect @natalieben Thank you for even trying. We see it, and we appreciate it. Well, @UKLabour it's over to you now.. Are you going to support @natalieben ? #ThePAProject #NHS #patientsafety
@natalieben
Natalie Bennett
3 months
#PhysiciansAssociates and #AnaesthesiaAssociates After further consultation, & flood of representations, I have put down "fatal motion" that _could_ stop government plans. But want to be clear, I don't expect to be able to, without Labour Party support
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@drmattuk @gmpolice @UMAPsUK Take @UMAPsUK to the cleaner associates
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Erin
3 months
@ExplosiveEnema2 @FPARCP @RCPhysicians Look at the wording! Medicine- 2 years "basic science" Trying to make it look like PAs have done more... Trying to equivalate the medicine and PA course Ridiculous
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Erin
3 months
@JimBethell Is that your response to the families of Emily Chesterton, Ben Peters, Norman Jopling, Colleen Howe and Christopher Tucker? Shame on you @JimBethell End #ThePAProject now #nhs #patientsafety
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Erin
6 months
@ExplosiveEnema I draw no equivalence between medical students & PAs But would the trust let a medical student cover a locum renal SHO shift? You know, a medical student who is not (yet) medically qualified, can't prescribe, can't request ionising radiation... Or would that be unsafe?
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@medicalmodelbri This misleading use of GP-Physician associate needs to be stopped They are PAs in primary care
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PA students should be placed only with PAs NEVER doctors ALL doctors should refuse to supervise PA students End this now
@GradMedic01
GraduateMedic
27 days
@AlisonGeorge10 @AngliaRuskin @mmamas1973 @DrAsifQasim @HelenRSalisbury @DrSteveTaylor @Doc_IonaCollins @parthaskar @VictoriaTzB @doctor_katie @UKGastroDr @mouseter_chef And theyโ€™re having better placement opportunities than I ever had if Newcastleโ€™s PA experience document is true! Took me until this year to be allowed to suture after literally begging. Same document has first year PA students doing GP clinics, but we know thatโ€™s widespread now
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Cognitive dissonance is real PAs truly believe they are rockstars playing to sold out arenas throughout the world The reality is PAs are akin to 13 year olds standing in front of their bedroom mirror playing air guitar & singing into their hairbrush
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Erin
5 months
@LBC @TomSwarbrick1 It's absolutely outrageous that AAs & PAs are being used to replace doctors in the UK There is: - No evidence to support the use of AAs/PAs in UK - No evidence that AAs & PAs provide any benefits - And most importantly, no evidence that the use of AAs & PAs is safe
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Erin
2 months
@Cleverclog67596 I don't think PAs/AAs actually understand what regulation is. They were just told by their leaders that they must get regulated by the GMC so they will be allowed to do even more... Oops!
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Erin
7 months
Stop claiming equivalence with doctors. Did this same discussion not happen a few weeks ago?
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Simon Tutt
7 months
@megan_smeaton Do you not feel your knowledge in your speciality at least matches that of a doctor, that after all is the whole point of ACP. Registered HCPs who are experts in their individual scopes and fields of practice. I'd expect an emerg ACP to be working on par with a Dr.
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Erin
2 months
@medicalmodelbri Love me some ionising treatments.
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Erin
6 months
"Under appropriate supervision, mostly by doctors" "Evidence"
@c_chief24
Chanceeth
6 months
@NHSE_WTE ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿฝ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿฝ Open letter to the BMA regarding regulation and supervision. Letter sent to Professor Philip Banfield, BMA Chair, 22 November 2023 #physicianassociate @FPARCP @RCPhysicians @gmcuk
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Erin
5 months
In which case we must assume the use of AAs is unsafe Safety first Protect patients
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Catherine Bernard
5 months
@anaes_spr @Resuspiece Unfortunately we donโ€™t have conclusive data supporting or not supporting safety of AAs in this country which is really frustrating.
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Erin
2 months
@UMAPsUK "Participants were asked to confirm they were not misusing the form" It's illegal for PAs/AAs to prescribe or request ionising radiation But some PAs/AAs have done/are doing that So some PAs/AAs will carry out illegal activities, but wouldn't dare to misuse a form?
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@glambystefania @DrEilidhMaria @jabberwock951 @MichaelC7389 @lugolson Are you telling us that YOU make the decision to stop medications? And then ask a doctor to physically stop the medication? Something that you as a dependent PA are not trained or qualified to do Oh, and it's also illegal for PAs to do this
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Erin
6 months
"I think surgery is where I spent the most time learning anatomy as obviously it's important." Thanks to this PA for clarifying exactly why no PA should ever be in an operating theatre.
@Robbi_K_
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6 months
@DrEilidhMaria @Dr_Done_ @emmamac2 Confessions of a newly qualified PA from the bin fire. Why are they holding the bleep? Why are they surgically closing patients unsupervised? Why do they admit not knowing A&P in post? Why do โ€˜all doctorsโ€™ go to them? ๐Ÿคก
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Erin
4 months
Is it safe for physician associates to be carrying out the checks on 6 week old babies? @rcgp @RCPCHtweets #nhs #patientsafety
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Erin
7 months
PAs are NOT highly skilled at diagnosing conditions Dangerous advice @nandwics Interesting video too...
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Erin
5 months
"Some of the greatest champions for physician associates have been the foundation doctors..." This is too much! Hahahahaha
@NHSEngland
NHS England
5 months
Physician associates support the wider clinical team, reduce workload pressure and enhance patient experience. The NHS Long Term Workforce Plan sets out how to build the right staffing and skills mix for the future, including expanding roles like these.
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@IncogAssociate @AoMRC @TheBMA And again for the PAs at the back... PA is not a profession PAs are dependent PAs must be supervised by a SUPERVISING DOCTOR @TheBMA issued guidance about scope to the SUPERVISING DOCTORS
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Erin
2 months
@iDrSunny @DrSarahClarke Looks like @DrSarahClarke took legal advice before making this statement It's a shame @RCPhysicians did not take legal advice BEFORE signing up for #ThePAProject ? You know, to find out about these fiscal & fiduciary responsibilities...
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