IncogPA @IncogAssociate Twitter profile

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IncogPA

23 days

It's not about who makes more errors; it's about addressing the narrative that suggests only Physician Associates make medical errors, when in reality, doctors also make mistakes. Ratio of PAs to doctors is 1:117. If 2 PAs exist and one makes an error, the rate is 50%.

IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

1 month

Patient safety? Doctors. Make. Errors. Too. Isolated incidents do not define an entire group of healthcare professionals. I thought I've made this clear already.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

You do not represent us. Why are you writing guidance for PAs. You have consistently belittled, undermined, disrespected, and advocated for the eradication of our profession. Now, you draft guidance for us, still diminishing our role by referring to us as assistants. Grow⬆️

The BMA

@TheBMA

2 months

"Patients must know who is treating them and the skills and abilities that clinician has." Today, we have published new guidance on the scope of responsibilities for Medical Associate Professionals (MAPs). Read more here:

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

1 month

' @TheBMA document recommends severely restricting the scope of practice of Physician Associates, including exclusion from undertaking endoscopy of any kind.' - @BritSocGastro Great view on the pathetic 'tweets-made-PDF' file released by @TheBMA

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

5 months

The word limit on this app is a joke. Sorry for the essay. #physicianassociate @gmcuk

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

#PhysicianAssociate What an achievement!

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

4 months

Physician Associates have existed in the NHS for more than 2 decades. Only in the last 6 months, coinciding with the JD strikes, have we become a topic of 🔥 debate. I keep advocating for promoting and raising awareness of PAs. Twitter has done a pretty good job with that. Thanks

Chanceeth

@c_chief24

4 months

It's been an uncomfortable, scary and worrying time for Physician Associates over the last few months. But, let's not forget this immense achievement. After >20 years of campaigning for regulation we are finally getting it. Thanks to all those that helped make this happen. 👏🏽

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

4 months

Stop the scapegoating.

Dr Matt Kneale

@drmattuk

4 months

The following piece in the @guardian paints a picture of PAs that is not fully accurate, based on our data. It is disappointing The Guardian did not seek a comment from @TheDA_UK before publication.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

1 month

This is: Scapegoating Elitism Protectionism This has NOTHING to do with patient safety. This is: You do not have 'Dr' in front of your name so you can not care for patients. You can not join our club. You can't sit with us. Punching down. Nothing to be proud of. #RCPEGM

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@IncogAssociate

1 month

scapegoating noun [u] blaming Physician Associates for issues that predate Physician Associates. the act of blaming a person or group for something bad that has happened or that someone else has done: E.g. the scapegoating of PAs for the problems faced by UK doctors.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

26 days

1/ Yesterday a doctor valiantly advocated for ACCPs, yet faced unwarranted attacks from malicious anonymous accounts within the medical community. Consequently, he made the understandable decision to deactivate his account.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

'Each PA should have a named consultant or GP, who agrees on the scope of practice for that individual PA.' Not just any Tom, Dick and Harry. Certainly not anti PA BMA members.

platinumpizza™

@Xeon4f145d96s1

2 months

“Why are you [doctors] writing guidance for PAs”? Because the FPA, your own faculty, has said doctors determine scope for PAs.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

21 days

The Royal College of Physician Associates 👌🏻

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

If you lack the courage, decency, or integrity to reveal your own identity, refrain from sharing images of others without their consent.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

1 month

Patient safety? Doctors. Make. Errors. Too. Isolated incidents do not define an entire group of healthcare professionals. I thought I've made this clear already.

Partha S Kar 🇮🇳🇬🇧🏏🎥

@parthaskar

1 month

@IncogAssociate gaslighting noun The act of shifting the debate from issues that compromise patient safety (due to working outside scope, prescribing without license etc) to 'problems faced by UK doctors'

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

5 months

@itvnews @staceyitv 19,000 responses? There are around 377,000 doctors in the country. You have based this headline on the views of 5% of all the doctors in the country! Come on @itvnews @staceyitv I expected better from you.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

1 month

You consistently frame this as "us vs them". We consistently emphasise that we work collaboratively with doctors. We are a speck in the ocean. The PA to doctor ratio stands at 1:117. Targeting a group of healthcare professionals in this manner is nothing to commend. #RCPEGM

Partha S Kar 🇮🇳🇬🇧🏏🎥

@parthaskar

1 month

As a medic? Especially if not in a ‘senior’ post? Everyday feels like a grind Feels like a system which has no love or support Especially from national orgs Yet if last night showed anything? There’s enough of us who do care for you Keep the faith We wont give up on you

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

@timricketts_ Physician Associates have been struggling to scroll through twitter over the last 6-8 months.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

Dear Patients, Dear Doctors, #PhysicianAssociates @FPARCP @RCPhysicians @rcgp @DHSCgovuk @UMAPsUK @gmcuk @NHSEngland @NHSEnglandLDN @NHSE_WTE @TheBMA @pulsetoday

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

1 month

Let's not mask personal motives under the guise of patient safety. This is Elitism Scapegoating & Protectionism. Your concern wasn't for the patients but for your own discomfort with the PA role. Incompetent? We've dedicated two decades to patient care. Competently. #RCPEGM

Dr Asif Qasim 💙

@DrAsifQasim

1 month

We called the #RCPEGM to protect patients and support doctors in training. Pleased to see all 5 motions passed - allows us to support PAs to define scope and supervision and help them work safely The failures of @RCPhysicians senior officers at the EGM, since and in the years…

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

26 days

2/ Sadly, this pattern extends to any doctor expressing support for Physician Associates, with positive comments promptly met with vicious backlash. Doctors attacking doctors. Disgusting. Unprofessional. Petty.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

A perfect example of how these clowns drag anyone supporting PAs through dirt. No surprise pro-PA doctors are hesitant to post on here.

Dr Matt Kneale

@drmattuk

2 months

Well, shutting down those who disagree with it without response is interesting. Thanks Gem—1st for regurgitating myths, secondly for failing to recognise limitations on the report, and thirdly for blocking without engaging. We now know not to go to BBC News with information.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

A universal one-size-fits-all scope regardless of competence, experience, training and skillset is significantly more dangerous. Scope should be set by those overseeing the training, CPD and development of the PA. Not by keyboard warriors. Scope also evolves with experience.

Dr Done

@Dr_Done_

2 months

@IncogAssociate Scope of practice isn��t an individual assignment. That’s dangerous and can be used to justify anyone doing anything. Also gives more liability to the supervising doctor - ‘they said I could’. Just no - BMA scope will be endorsed by 95% of doctors. The other 5% will be liable.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

5 months

5% Not 87% @itvnews @staceyitv #physicianassociate

IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

5 months

@itvnews @staceyitv 19,000 responses? There are around 377,000 doctors in the country. You have based this headline on the views of 5% of all the doctors in the country! Come on @itvnews @staceyitv I expected better from you.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

Publishing your anti PA tweets into a PDF document does not make them guidance. 😂

Dr Bella

@Dr_BellaR

2 months

The BMA states that PAs should NOT see undifferentiated patients. Based on my understanding, this means PAs should NOT: - clerk in ED - see most GP patients - be on any doctors rota in hospital - review deteriorating patients on the ward So… what on earth can they do?

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

Kind words from @BenMearns #oneteam indeed Physician Associates can help enhance patient care. I wonder if we can get some more kind words from doctor colleagues? Instead of the usual belittling, bullying, negative and demeaning nonsense.

IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

Dear Patients, Dear Doctors, #PhysicianAssociates @FPARCP @RCPhysicians @rcgp @DHSCgovuk @UMAPsUK @gmcuk @NHSEngland @NHSEnglandLDN @NHSE_WTE @TheBMA @pulsetoday

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

Apparently we are threatening jobs.

IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

@Parody_RCGP UK PA to Doctor ratio is 1:117 Sure.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

5 months

@timricketts_ @OcoRory @mouseter_chef @Xeon4f145d96s1 @DrEilidhMaria @Dr_BellaR @RobLaurensonD4P @RobJimFleming @Dr_Done_ Ok. We hear you but this is not the narrative that's been shared for the last 6 months. It has been the following: 1) PA misses a DVT. They must all be shit. 2) Stop recruiting PAs. 3) How dare they earn that much. Pay them >10k less 4) They are incompetent. They should...

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

5 months

It is not and should never be #physicianassociate Vs doctors.

IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

5 months

@timricketts_ @OcoRory @mouseter_chef @Xeon4f145d96s1 @DrEilidhMaria @Dr_BellaR @RobLaurensonD4P @RobJimFleming @Dr_Done_ Ok. We hear you but this is not the narrative that's been shared for the last 6 months. It has been the following: 1) PA misses a DVT. They must all be shit. 2) Stop recruiting PAs. 3) How dare they earn that much. Pay them >10k less 4) They are incompetent. They should...

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

29 days

Guys. Erin wants some attention. Please give them some attention. Please.

Erin

@Molly2323232323

29 days

@IncogAssociate @AoMRC @TheBMA And again for the PAs at the back... PA is not a profession PAs are dependent PAs must be supervised by a SUPERVISING DOCTOR @TheBMA issued guidance about scope to the SUPERVISING DOCTORS

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

4 months

Please stop using a handful of examples to define an entire group of healthcare professionals. #physicianassociate

Patient saw eight GPs before cancer spotted

Safety watchdog highlights case as it warns a lack of continuity of care in England puts people at risk.

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Dr Matt Kneale

@drmattuk

4 months

@SaraTon08500527 @olddiesel You're ignoring the patient safety argument every time. What is malicious about wanting to prevent deaths like Emily Chesterton, like Ben Peters? What is wrong with reducing the hundreds of accounts of patient morbidity? There is no malice here. You are choosing to paint that…

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

Publishing your anti PA tweets into a PDF document does not make them guidance. 😂

Erin

@Molly2323232323

2 months

@IncogAssociate The guidance is for your supervising doctors Doctors who choose to supervise PAs/AAs will use guidance to ensure safe supervision Some doctors may choose to ignore the guidance... But would be pretty hard to defend that decision if a patient suffers any harm, wouldn't it?

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

1 month

There is 1 physician associate for every 117 doctors. Apparently we are a threat.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

1 month

@TheSooperCynic Do you introduce yourself as "hi, I am Dr HCK. I am not a consultant"?

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

Publishing your anti PA tweets into a PDF document does not make them guidance. 😂

Dr Robert Laurenson

@RobLaurensonD4P

2 months

Many have asked Medical Leaders to set the scope of our assistants. So @TheBMA has done it. Tomorrow we take the lead and move the debate on to address the very real patient safety issues.

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@IncogAssociate

2 months

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

5 months

@timricketts_ @OcoRory @mouseter_chef @Xeon4f145d96s1 @DrEilidhMaria @Dr_BellaR @RobLaurensonD4P @RobJimFleming @Dr_Done_ I wanted to be a firefighter. Caring for my late grandmother made me fall in love with healthcare. The PA profession opened its doors to me. It was not easy. My last 10 years as a PA has not been easy. Please don't make it harder. We are not the ones making it hard for you.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

As I've emphasised time and again, despite our relentless advocacy for PA regulation spanning over two decades, progress was only made by recent debates relating to the anti-PA movement, fueled by scapegoating, elitism, and protectionism.

Taz

@Suburbanbella

2 months

I'm really sick of seeing this s**t. One question. If UK PAs are so incredible, then why the f**k aren't they regulated or licensed? Been around since f***ing 2003. There's a reason folks. And it ain't good. The hubris is over the top.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

1 month

The tragic, sad and unfortunate incident SHOULD NOT have been USED in the way that it is in the campaign aimed at smearing, insulting, belittling and bullying Physician Associates. It is being used again, and again, and again. @TheBMA

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

@Janeajnet Not everyone has a clear career plan in their early years espicially during GCSE/A-levels. People in their 30s and 40s might want to delve into the healthcare field. However, committing to a 4-5 year course, followed by several years of rotations, isn't always feasible for them.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

3 months

Being regulated by @gmcuk does not contribute to the 'blurring the roles of doctor and PA'. It ensures standards are in place to ensure Physician Associate quality and therefore patient safety. More work needs to go into the raising awareness of and promoting the role of MAPs.

The BMA

@TheBMA

3 months

Tonight’s approval by the House of Commons for legislation blurring the roles of doctor and PA is hugely disappointing, risking patients believing they will be getting care from a doctor when they will not. Read @DrPhilBanfield ’s response:

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

4 months

@DocShivSharma @Doctors_Vote @Xeon4f145d96s1 @MichelePaduano @TomStocks1982 @Doc_IonaCollins @DocAnonX @DrPhilBanfield You do realise it's not just doctors that are competent and have the skillset and experience to examine medical students. Medical education is a seperate discipline in its own respect. An experienced PA who also has an academic role can examine medical students.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

4 months

Anti-PAs, trolls, med twitter: Physician associates should not see patients. They are not regulated! GMC: ah. Hmm. Well they have been begging for regulation for a while... Ok fine we will regulate them. Anti-PAs, trolls, med twitter: ... HOW DARE YOU! Screw you! 🖕🏽 GMC! Booooo

Jenna Johnston

@LittlePersonDoc

4 months

Response from my local MP re the plans for the GMC to regulate PAs.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

4 months

@parthaskar @Xeon4f145d96s1 @FPARCP @RCPhysicians I've been working at my GP surgery for 10 years. Only the GP partners, including my supervisor, is aware of my training, competence & experience including what additional courses and training I've completed. They decide my scope. Not someone at the RCGP that has never met me.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

Tragic incidents should not be used to push the anti-Physician Associate agenda. PAs are not the only healthcare professionals involved in medical errors.

'How many more like Jess?' Family calls for change after daughter's death | ITV News

Jessica Brady had tried more than 20 times to get a GP appointment during lockdown, before finally being given a private diagnosis of terminal cancer. | ITV News Anglia

www.itv.com

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

3 months

@TheBMA @DrPhilBanfield Being regulated by @gmcuk does not contribute to the 'blurring the roles of doctor and PA'. It ensures standards are in place to ensure Physician Associate quality and therefore patient safety. More work needs to go into the raising awareness of and promoting the role of MAPs.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

4 months

No evidence shows PAs make more clinical errors than doctors. Your response cannot be "PA 2 years, MBBS 5 years, so PA more likely to make errors" If you believe that then you must also think graduate entry doctors make more clinical errors than other doctors. @Dr_Done_

SaraTonin

@SaraTon08500527

4 months

@Dr_Done_ You are an absolute fucking ghoul. Using isolated cases that in reality is sadly reflected in ALL healthcare, to push an agenda and cause very deliberate fear, is disgraceful and abhorrent. For doctors & scientists-some of you, including BMA “leaders” are beyond imbecilic.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

3 months

@parthaskar @TheSalariedPA 'Stealing' supervison time? Man shut up. IMGs not having supervision time is not due to Physician Associats. IMG lack of supervision predates PAs. Absolutely pathetic.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

23 days

We don't. When did we ever say that. Junior/Resident doctors MUST be paid significantly more than what they are being paid at present. Addressing working conditions is imperative, alongside the need for a comprehensive review of the existing pathways to specialty training.

Carole Webb

@reptongasman

23 days

@IncogAssociate But answer me the basic question, why do PAs think they should be paid more than an F1? That is to me the fundamental problem

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

Damn. Aren't we quite popular today.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

@AnalysisDrawer @TheBMA curated a compilation of anti-PA tweets from trolls with no direct PA experience, consolidating them into a PDF file. This so-called PA scope guidance, has been misappropriated by certain individuals, leading to detrimental effects on patient care.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

29 days

😂 This kinda petty BS. Grow up. Get a job. You are boring.

Dr Done

@Dr_Done_

29 days

@IncogAssociate @Molly2323232323 @BMA_JuniorDocs @AoMRC @TheBMA @NHSEngland @gmcuk ‘Fellow healthcare professionals’ - nah we respect those. You aren’t qualified to to wash hair

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

@RCPhysicians @rcgp @gmcuk @NHSEngland It is important to get opinions from healthcare professionals that have actually worked with PAs instead of ones acting on misinformation usually triggered by scapegoating, elitism and protectionism.

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@IncogAssociate

2 months

>20 years is not new. Get a grip.

Luke

@LukeAmos__

2 months

You’re right they represent the doctors who your incredibly new role is directly supervised by, and cannot exist without. I’d welcome any reasonable thoughts on the actual guidance Is the use of the word assistant your only issue? That word you literally used to go by.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

4 months

@TheBMA 99% of physician associates working in the country work within their scope, limitations and competence. And they are doing a pretty good job caring for patients safely and appropriately as part of the MDT. We have been campaigning for regulation for >20 years. We need regulation.

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@IncogAssociate

9 days

@Xeon4f145d96s1 This is quite embarrassing. This person's conduct lacks professionalism and is extremely disrespectful. It is important to note that this individual's actions do not align with the values of Physician Associates. Whoever you are. Please stop.

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@IncogAssociate

2 months

I wonder how many of that 17.8% actually worked with PAs. @RCPhysicians @rcgp @gmcuk @FPARCP

Drawer Analysis

@AnalysisDrawer

2 months

@DrNeilStone I was aware of the polarisation but perhaps bought into it too much. Only 17.8% replied to the RCP survey on PAs... And a significant portion were generally neutral or supportive. I would have expected it to have a much greater return...

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

3 months

On the one hand you say PAs shouldn't see patients because they are not regulated. On the other you say PAs shouldn't be regulated. Which is it @TheBMA ? You know exactly why it should be GMC > HCPC. Elitism and protectionism at its finest. Stop with the scapegoating.

The BMA

@TheBMA

3 months

Despite the 21,000 doctors and patients who wrote to MPs objecting to the regulation of PAs & AAs by the GMC, the House of Commons approved the legislation. But all is not lost. Write to a Member of the House of Lords today and ask them to vote against it.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

4 months

@LittlePersonDoc @DrAsifQasim @Molly2323232323 Hope this helps with trying to make sense of the Physician Associate National Exam.

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@IncogAssociate

4 months

@LittlePersonDoc @DrAsifQasim @Molly2323232323 To sit the national exam you have to pass your university exams. The university assessments tend to be harder than the national exam which is essentially a safety exam. People who fail their university exam must retake them or the entire year. They can NOT sit the national exam.

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@IncogAssociate

5 months

@MSH446 @itvnews @staceyitv 😂 you people are funny. Still backing @itvnews & @staceyitv for saying 87% instead of 5%. Giving false information to the public just for some clicks and to smear the reputation of a group of healthcare professionals.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

@bbchealth Isolated incidents should not serve as the sole representation of a group of healthcare professionals. Unfortunately doctors, like any other healthcare practitioners, also make medical errors. A comprehensive analysis incorporating comparative data is needed. @OReillyGem

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

4 months

Don't just write things to fit your anti Physician Associate agenda. @DrAsifQasim

IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

4 months

@DrAsifQasim @DHSCgovuk @gmcuk 1) This is the first 2 questions from a 200 question exam. 2) The national exam also compromises of a 16 station OSCE. 3) To sit the national exams students must pass their university exams which tends to be more difficult. For more information:

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@IncogAssociate

4 months

Know it.

IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

4 months

@MedRegoncall1 I chose to train to become a Physician Associate. I do not want to be a Doctor. I never wanted to be a Doctor. If someone came to me tomorrow and said "hey come and do this conversion course and you can become a qualified doctor." It is a pretty easy no from me. No hesitation.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

5 months

@BMA_James_Steen @Bonivorlewis Yes. Use your voice to fix that. Not to disrespect PAs. Not to argue PAs should be paid less. Not to undermine the hard work PAs do. Not to question whether we need to exist. Not to agree with a group of individuals who use terms like "abolishing" with regards to PAs. #bekind

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

4 months

@lewisthughes @MedRegoncall1 Because I flipping LOVE being a Physician Associate.

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@IncogAssociate

1 month

@makepumps666 @TheSooperCynic Do you introduce yourself by stating what you are not?

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

Isolated incidents should not serve as the sole representation of a group of healthcare professionals. Unfortunately doctors, like any other healthcare practitioners, also make medical errors. A comprehensive analysis incorporating comparative data is needed. @OReillyGem

BBC Health News

@bbchealth

2 months

Medical leaders back rise in number of physician associates

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

5 months

@timricketts_ @OcoRory @mouseter_chef @Xeon4f145d96s1 @DrEilidhMaria @Dr_BellaR @RobLaurensonD4P @RobJimFleming @Dr_Done_ see patients because they are not regulated. But at the same time, let's throw a spanner in the works of them finally, after 20 years of campaigning for it, getting regulation. 7) Let's bully and harrass PAs on social media and make them feel as little, incompetent and...

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

23 days

And doctors have individuals like yourself—malicious, narrow-minded, petty, and unprofessional—steering the ship straight through a small cohort of healthcare professionals dedicated solely to safely providing compassionate care for patients.

platinumpizza™

@Xeon4f145d96s1

24 days

You’ve really got to feel for PAs. They’ve got people like Jaimie Saunders, Jeanne Watkins, Joseph Ormerod and Stephen Nash at the helm. Each one of these swimming in controversy, and steering the ship straight for a collision course with an iceberg.

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@IncogAssociate

4 months

@drmattuk @theveindoc @VirtueOfNothing @guardian @TheDA_UK DAUK and BMA are biased. One the one hand you are complaining that we shouldn't help care for patients as we aren't regulated (which we have been campaigning for for >20 years). On the other hand you are complaining that we are getting regulated. Elitism and protectionism. 🥱

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@IncogAssociate

29 days

@Molly2323232323 @BMA_JuniorDocs @AoMRC @TheBMA @NHSEngland @gmcuk @TheBMA 's conduct is marked by unprofessionalism and covert agendas, exemplified by their orchestration of a hate campaign against fellow healthcare professionals. Dictating the scope of another profession is not only petty and pathetic but also reflects a profound immaturity.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

5 months

@timricketts_ @OcoRory @mouseter_chef @Xeon4f145d96s1 @DrEilidhMaria @Dr_BellaR @RobLaurensonD4P @RobJimFleming @Dr_Done_ Instead of trying to obliterate an entire profession use us. Use us to question your pay, your rotations, your training, being sent around the country, what it takes to get where you want to be. Not everyone knows they want to work in healthcare during GCSE/a-levels. I thought

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

4 months

Physician Associates don't have to have a Dr title to help care for patients.

IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

4 months

@Dr_Done_ @Xeon4f145d96s1 You definition of 'training' is flawed. Your disrespect doesn't just stop with PAs. Your disregard and disrespect to experience, CPD, and on-the-job training is appalling.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

As I've said multiple times already. It's not about patient safety at all. Elitism and protectionism.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

@bduric_ Because the GMC did not consistently belittle, undermine, disrespect, and advocate for the eradication of our profession.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

Using tragic incidents to push your agenda is pathetic. This case highlights why it is important Physician Associates need regulation immediately WITHOUT delay. We have been campaigning for regulation for >20 years. Changing regulator now will delay regulation even further.

Dr Matt Kneale

@drmattuk

2 months

Family of film make-up artist call for inquest after treatment by physician associate which led to death. @JanetEastham @TheDA_UK @TheBMA

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

23 days

Petty. Pathetic. It's not about who makes more errors; it's about addressing the narrative that suggests only PAs make medical errors, when in reality, doctors also make mistakes. Ratio of PAs to doctors is 1:117. If 2 PAs exist and one makes an error, the rate is 50%.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

@Molly2323232323 Was this agreed with FPA, RCP, GMC, NHSE, RCGP, DHSC before deployment? No.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

@iDrSunny With regulation we will have a stronger presence and power to address these concerns. Pausing having fought for something for 20 years? The only reason anti-PA docs are scared of the GMC regulating PAs is because of elitism and protectionism. Regulated PAs = patient safety

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

5 months

@timricketts_ @OcoRory @mouseter_chef @Xeon4f145d96s1 @DrEilidhMaria @Dr_BellaR @RobLaurensonD4P @RobJimFleming @Dr_Done_ unwanted as possible. 8) Let's drag all the most senior reputable PAs through dirt and go on an absolute witch-hunt. 9) We are gods and allowed to make mistakes. But PAs, how dare they make errors. 10) "Abolish" (BMA Scotland) them

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

29 days

Sure. Try telling the government that.

Erin

@Molly2323232323

29 days

@RuksaadLuvzYhuu @BMA_JuniorDocs @TheBMA @AoMRC @NHSEngland @gmcuk 1) PA/AA is NOT a profession 2) PAs/AAs are dependent 3) PAs/AAs are supervised by DOCTORS 4) @TheBMA issued guidance to supervising DOCTORS 5) @TheBMA guidance has absolutely nothing to do with PAs/AAs

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

5 months

@Dr_Done_ Did she manage the patient incorrectly? Also, don't agree with "we work exactly like doctors do". She would have discussed this with a senior clinician that's not shown in this clip - which is annoying.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

1 month

@MedRegoncall1 @BridgewaterGP Shut up Troll. 1) What is the point of scoring out the names? You've done a pathetic job at keeping anything/anyone anonymous. 2) The practice has 7 salaried GPs and 14 GP partners! 3)...

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

5 months

@BMA_James_Steen @Bonivorlewis Using a handful of cases to smear PAs is not the right way to do it. In most places PAs are utilised appropriately with a defined scope and clear limitations. PAs should not be impacting training opportunities for doctors and wherever this is happening it must to be challenged.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

5 months

@Dr_Done_ @netflix @NetflixUK please also document the online bullying and harrasment MAPs have been recieving on social media. Based on a handful of incidents a group of anonymous accounts have decided Physician Associates should not exist. The impact this has had on PAs have been detrimental.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

4 months

@ClinOncDoc @NHSEngland This is incorrect.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

5 months

@timricketts_ @OcoRory @mouseter_chef @Xeon4f145d96s1 @DrEilidhMaria @Dr_BellaR @RobLaurensonD4P @RobJimFleming @Dr_Done_ Only do discharge summaries, take bloods and do what we tell them to. 5) All PAs regardless of experience and training must have a set scope shared by all (even though GMC does not set scope for doctors and NMC does not set scope for nurses) 6) They should not be allowed to...

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

1 month

@friswith_med @parthaskar There are ~3000 PAs and ~350,000 Doctors in the UK. Well done. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Anyone daring to voice support for Physician Associates, whether it be doctors or anyone else, faces abuse, bullying, name-calling, scrutiny and criticism here. Again. Nothing to be proud of @parthaskar

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@IncogAssociate

4 months

@iDrSunny @Xeon4f145d96s1 @ExplosiveEnema @Molly2323232323 Are graduate entry doctors more likely to make clinical errors compared to doctors that have done 5 years in med school? Physician associates are apparently more likely to given the number of years at uni.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

5 months

@BMA_James_Steen @Bonivorlewis A handful of places are utilising PAs inappropriately and this is being challenged. If we had regulation it would give us more power to do this. When we finally have regulation around the corner there are complaints that GMC is not the right one to be regulating PAs.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

5 months

@AnalysisDrawer Yes. Jnr doctors are declining. But that's fine. Better systems needs to be in place especially for those PAs working in secondary care. The impact on prescribing issues is minor. The impact all of this has had on the mental health and wellbeing of student PAs & PAs is immense.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

29 days

@pulsetoday @TheBMA proceeded unilaterally, without consulting any stakeholders, including the FPA, in their attempt to define scope for a profession which they lack the legal authority to do so.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

4 months

@DrAsifQasim @Molly2323232323 Oh. You really want to play this game?

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

5 months

@BMA_James_Steen @Bonivorlewis So you are complaining PAs are not regulated. But also happy for it to be delayed further? Are you forgetting PAs are currently working in healthcare already? You are pretty ambitious if you think it would only take PAs a year to set up their own regulatory body.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

1 month

@ConkerLover @TheBMA @BritSocGastro You do realise PAs (ratio of PA to doctor in the UK is 1:117) are not the only other healthcare professionals that can train to do endoscopy. There are other groups of healthcare professionals who are already doing lots of them.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

4 months

@AnalysisDrawer To sit the national exam you have to pass your university exams. The university assessments tend to be harder than the national exam which is essentially a safety exam. People who fail their university exam must retake them or the entire year. They can NOT sit the national exam.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

1 month

@medicalmodelbri 🤦🏼 FPAConduct @rcp .ac.uk

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@IncogAssociate

3 months

@JoshuaSoane @ellorakamineni Support is there when I need it. We have daily MDTs to discuss patients and I am always allocated a supervisor for the day. It's never scary when you work in such a supportive environment. For more information please see under 'useful resources':

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

4 months

@doctor_oxford A cardiovascular examination is the same regardless of whether you are a Physician Associate or a Doctor.

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IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

2 months

@DoctorDemetris 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 for correcting misinformation from @Dr_Done_ #PhysicianAssociates

Demetris Ioannides

@DoctorDemetris

2 months

@Dr_Done_ I've worked at GOSH, and I think you should take this tweet down. The bit that's blacked out, before the word SHO? That's not someone's name, it's the number of the on-call phone that's held by either the SHO or the PA. There is nothing inappropriate going on here.

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