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Mr Bon Ivor

@Bonivorlewis

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Physician Associate working within the NHS - protecting the role of PA’s and other Medically Allied Professionals from unfair criticism.

Yorkshire
Joined May 2020
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@Bonivorlewis
Mr Bon Ivor
1 year
No one bats an eyelid paying £100+ for an on call plumber/electrician etc. but woe betide if the doctor who is working out of hours to look after you/your relative is asking for more then £14-£15.
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@Bonivorlewis
Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
Fellow PA’s please don’t work shifts covering doctors gaps. That is not your role, it’s unsafe.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@Jvegas43 @Depheruk @asda Someone’s struggling to feed their children and your first point is to “establish a balanced view?”
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Mr Bon Ivor
1 year
@EthersonKevin And in all honesty, just go to any current A&E dept, it’s rammed, waiting lists are the longest they’ve ever been. If you really want to fight about neglecting patients then you’ve got the wrong target.
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@Bonivorlewis
Mr Bon Ivor
4 months
It has become extremely difficult to engage with anyone on Twitter/X regarding the current PA debate. Often more than not due to the following reasons. 1. Referring to PAs as “failed doctors” or “Failed to get in to medicine” 2. Personal insults/Pile ons
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Mr Bon Ivor
1 year
@EthersonKevin How are patients being neglected? Junior doctors are leaving because the conditions are so bad. If anything they’re fighting for a better future
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@Bonivorlewis
Mr Bon Ivor
1 year
@Xeon4f145d96s1 It’s rubbish, for more hours as well. Full support for pay restoration.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@omerdays @uhbtrust They can’t come up with any explanation. There is no evidence. It’s all people with a bit of power flexing their hand.
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@Bonivorlewis
Mr Bon Ivor
6 months
In to any role where there is a shortfall/lack of service. PAs should not be on any reg rota. They shouldn’t be on any doctor rota altogether. It needs to be made extremely clear that PAs are in addition to the medical team not a substitute.
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Mr Bon Ivor
1 year
Logging on to Twitter to see another day of people bashing PA’s for issues with their own profession.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@CaitlinCallan2 I’d always come to defend PA’s but we’re not doctors. We shouldn’t be working in a doctors role covering their shifts. It’s unsafe.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
Pa students - don’t waste your money paying for “OSCE prep” courses. They are praying on peoples insecurities. I can guarantee that 99% of people who have attended those courses would have passed without the course. Happy to give free advice if people dm me. #physicianassociate
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@Bonivorlewis
Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@codingbrown @DrLindaDykes Sounds like you’ve got some excellent PA’s. But I’d argue by saying “they’re better than doctors” it creates anger particularly amongst JD’s who are paid less, have expensive exams and will often be the ones who work with those PA’s to assist with prescribing/scan requesting.
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Mr Bon Ivor
4 months
If @TheDA_UK has been made aware of illegal activity then surely the appropriate action for patient safety is to escalate this to the police/trusts/FPA. Not the newspapers.
@JanetEastham
Janet Eastham
4 months
🔴NEW: Physician associates accused of‘illegally’ prescribing at dozens of NHS trusts and missing life-threatening diagnoses, dossier claims. @TheDA_UK ’s survey of 600+ medics comes as @TheBMA says “still time” to stop “dangerous” PA regulation 🧵
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@NHSBartsHealth @TomStocks1982 @mdstbarts “We weren’t meant to show the workers our sleeping pods and lavish work lifestyle.”
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Mr Bon Ivor
6 months
My take on this: Trusts/GPs are misusing/slotting PAs in to roles which aren’t appropriate for them. I expect part of issue is that that trust probably has PAs who are seen as a good asset to the team. Therefore the decision has been taken to slot that “good” professional
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ExplosiveEnema
6 months
Assured it's safe yet? For a Reg to be on that rota they would have completed ST4+ (intense exams & rotations across numerous departments) How do they ensure a PA whose 1st job from uni is at @BWC_NHS has the same level of rigorous training/experience/knowledge as an ST4?
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@glurcher @ivabrodine @FPARCP Isn’t an issue with PA’s pay it’s an issue with your pay.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@Xe4f145d16s2 It makes a complete mockery of us coming on here to defend PA’s when things like this happen.
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Mr Bon Ivor
4 months
The only saving grace is I know that mine and many of my colleagues are continuing to make a difference to patient care on a day to day basis
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Mr Bon Ivor
4 months
I’ve always tried to be pragmatic and listen to all views and understand peoples frustrations around the role. It has become quite difficult to login to see many people wish that my job just didn’t exist.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@BeckettUnite And hospital staff have to pay to park at hospitals.
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Mr Bon Ivor
4 months
It cannot be disputed that there are many legitimate concerns surrounding PAs, the scope and the implementation. My concern is that legitimate concerns will morphed into “let’s just delete the role all together”
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@codingbrown @DrLindaDykes Appreciate the sentiment but these sort of comments only divide roles. Happy to be seen as doing a good job in my role but would never want to be considered that I “outrank” my doctor peers. Definitely not.
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Mr Bon Ivor
1 year
@ShelfordGrp @probert_david @CliveKay @OUHospitals @JackieDanielNHS @uhbtrust @MFTnhs @SheffieldHosp @imperialNHS_CEO @icabbs @CUH_Roland It’s fine for your CEO to take home over £200k a year yet junior doctors who are asking for more than £14/hr are being slated.
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Mr Bon Ivor
4 months
I’ll therefore be taking a break from Twitter/x. I appreciate everybody that has taken the time to converse with me.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@NHSBartsHealth @TomStocks1982 @mdstbarts I’ve thought about this and your reply is worse than the video. It’s the fact that only now you’ve been called out you think the video is the issue rather than the lack of equality between clinical staff and admin/managers.
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Mr Bon Ivor
4 months
1. The Gov ran the consultation not the GMC. 2. It is not the role of the GMC to listen to doctors interests its a regulatory body. 3. The BMA knew about the consultation but didn’t tell its members. Don’t let facts ruin another good PA bashing.
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@Dr_Done_
Dr Done
4 months
The GMC intentionally left doctors (the professional group most affected) out of the public consultation on PAs in 2017. This has been proven through an FOI. The consultation was hidden from us, and it is invalid. We won’t have it. Now’s a great time to engage @drcolinm ⏱️⏰
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Mr Bon Ivor
5 months
@Parody_RCGP The sad truth is and I’m sure a lot of PAs would hate to admit it. A good majority of us would have done GEM if it was more favourable/more financial help.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
We give our staff free parking (which they’d get in any other sector) a pointless certificate and a single teabag! Congrats on your hard work, well deserved.
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Matthew Hopkins 💙
2 years
Saying thanks to @WorcsAcuteNHS staff, a Thread: We're hugely grateful for the hard work of staff caring for our communities and always seeking new ways to show kindness to our teams We work with @WorcsCharity & trade union partners on how best to show our appreciation [1/5]
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@TomStocks1982 It is the fault of PA’s if they don’t refuse to work those locum shifts. We should be refusing to be included on medical Rotas.
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Mr Bon Ivor
4 months
Literally couldn’t care less what PAs are called. Just seems like a way for the crab brigade to get “one up” on the profession. No real evidence that a name change will improve knowledge of the role. Patients will still think someone reviewing them in a medical capacity
@_MarieTolan
Marie Tolan 🦀
4 months
Motion to rename PAs and AAs assistants has been tabled and signed by 3 MPs so far. This name change is crucial to prevent confusion for patients. @PreetKGillMP @KeeleyMP please add your names to help us improve patient safety.
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Mr Bon Ivor
1 year
@MarkusNash4 They’re not in training, they’re qualified doctors. Is it fair then that a doctor has to spend 5 years at university and then at least another 10 years in speciality training with 100k of student debt? Why would anyone become a doctor when they could earn more/less stress?
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Mr Bon Ivor
7 months
@Dr_Done_ @FPARCP @itvnews I’d suggest reporting this to the FPA via their online complaints form.
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Mr Bon Ivor
4 months
Targeted at anyone with an alternate view. 3. Lots of mistruths and hearsay about the role. 4. Lots of contradictory statements. 5. Insulting PAs generally (typically referring to them as idiots).
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Mr Bon Ivor
1 year
Many accounts keen to have an opinion on training, scope of practice and title of PA’s. I’d at least had thought they would have had researched what it entails to qualify as a Physician Associate.
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Mr Bon Ivor
10 months
@gaslad It’s meaningless, the BMA has 0 say over any other professions title. But who am I to stop some angry doctors having a power trip.
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Mr Bon Ivor
8 months
@Xeon4f145d96s1 GP’s should refuse to work like this. Needs to be a stricter crackdown on PA’s who breach the rules like this.
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Mr Bon Ivor
4 months
What doctors think of other healthcare professionals.
@nhsbourbon
a packet of NHS-issue bourbon biscuits 🦀🦀🦀
4 months
But if an occupational therapist does BLS it should obviously be called "advanced practical cardiopulmonary resuscitation training"
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Mr Bon Ivor
5 months
Classic #medtwitter mindset, instead of focusing on the reasons/addressing the issues I stated for rejecting medical school, they’re inciting a pile on. Doctors need to realise that accounts like these will ultimately not help their cause.
@Dr_Done_
Dr Done
5 months
Do these two posts look contradictory to anyone else? Note ‘I could have got in to med school’ vs ‘I did get in’ a few minutes later. And ‘I applied to PA instead (of medical school), why would anyone apply’ vs ‘I applied for both’ Comical. 🙃 @Bonivorlewis
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Mr Bon Ivor
7 months
@Dr_Done_ @FPARCP @itvnews I have, it’s completely inappropriate what is happening here.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@JonMarcStanley And someone got suspended for asking for a laptop
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Mr Bon Ivor
4 months
@suxxamethonium @Xeon4f145d96s1 It’s a reasonable take. We as PAs have been told there will be no consultant PAs/we do not want this either. It’s therefore surprising to see it on this tier list.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@codingbrown @DrLindaDykes There will be some fantastic medics who are arguably taking the responsibility for prescribing and scan requesting for those PA’s and they equally deserve the recognition.
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Mr Bon Ivor
1 year
@Master75272373 It isn’t fair. Need a change to training pathways.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
Given that the current RCP president has the audacity to call out junior doctors to a national newspaper. They don’t even have a mandate as they didn’t win the election. They came 2nd and are now President out of circumstances. Should have had another election
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Mr Bon Ivor
1 year
@CFO_NHS @BMA_JuniorDocs The polls are showing you’re not supported by the public. Conservative friends of the NHS, surely satire.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
Transparent but won’t tell us the breakdown of the cost of the £211. I appreciate @FPARCP being our voluntary register but what do we actually get from being a member apart from a plastic card? #physicianassociate
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Mr Bon Ivor
5 months
@GMCharlatan @ExplosiveEnema @Parody_RCGP @toast36742904 @Dr_Done_ It’s true. Mine didn’t but I do believe some PA courses have tried to pass off equivalence. Unfortunately this is something we have to unpick. When PA students tell me they’re “studying 5 years of medicine in 2 years” it’s important that this ideology is corrected.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
So it’s #PAWeekUK2022 - some of #medtwitter are doing their best to degrade the profession but PA’s are here to stay and we will keep doing what we’re doing!
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Mr Bon Ivor
6 months
It was only a matter of time before the anti-PA agenda mindset turned its cannons on other HCP’s.
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Mr Bon Ivor
5 months
It’s a real shame, only 5% of current doctors ~10% of BMA members answered this survey despite it being banded around constantly on here/by the BMA. Clearly shows that there are more pressing issues doctors are concerned with such as pay restoration.
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Mr Bon Ivor
7 months
@gaslad What’s the issue? Nurses also do endoscopic procedures?
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Mr Bon Ivor
7 months
@JoOgidi My favourite is when someone gives them an evidenced based/different opinionated rebuttal and they lose their mind “ladder puller”’etc.
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Mr Bon Ivor
9 months
@Dr_Done_ Have to agree. It’s really silly/dangerous to think that you’ve done a medical degree in two years.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@ivabrodine But PA’s aren’t GP’s and we’re not trying to be GP’s.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@Xeon4f145d96s1 You’ve got a real bee in your bonnet for PA’s this week, lay it off a bit? It’s getting a bit tiring. Daily posts bashing PA’s on PA week is a bit distasteful.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
Honestly, can’t believe some people have such a god complex regarding other professions performing a similar role that they would go out of their way to completely undermine these professions.
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Mr Bon Ivor
1 year
@Xeon4f145d96s1 No, there’s specific guidance from the @FPARCP that you shouldn’t be doing more than what you normally do.
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Mr Bon Ivor
5 months
@Dr_Done_ “Hopefully” it’s an administrative role? There is no ambiguity about it. Do the right thing and delete the post.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@LewisStanding1 @Brozapine This is only good if you live close enough/somewhere with good transport.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@BellaRoscetti Can there be 48hours without the usual dragging PA’s through the mud?
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@Bonivorlewis
Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@Xeon4f145d96s1 @Sam_antha_green @aberdeenuni The post implys this anyway, I don’t see why it went this far.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@thegradmedic It’s a complete misuse of PA’s and their role.
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Mr Bon Ivor
1 year
To all #physicianassociates the @FPARCP guidance is clear. Do not take on more than your contracted role during strike days. Do not take on additional overtime, this undermines the strike. Only do exactly what you would do on any other day.
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Mr Bon Ivor
10 months
@gaslad When the BMA starts creating health policy and is part of the DoH, let me know.
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Mr Bon Ivor
11 months
@askNasha @mphillips1996 @Dr_Done_ I’m all for defending/supporting PA’s, but this is wild.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@mrchumpley @Master75272373 @UHSussex @GeorgeFindlay99 @GeorgeFindlay99 you promised 4 days ago that this would be looked in to with a matter of urgency.
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Mr Bon Ivor
8 months
Wait till people find out about the NHS graduate management scheme. A 2 year postgrad course which pays on average ~£44,000 at the end.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
People like to compare their pay to other professions to “start a discussion”. It doesn’t, their intentions may not be malice, but it leads to people role bashing. Moaning on Twitter won’t fix your pay.
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@Bonivorlewis
Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@jameelajoie What would you consider as part of a “health check”?
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Mr Bon Ivor
1 year
Imagine getting angry about a colleague receiving an honourary reward, honestly.
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@Bonivorlewis
Mr Bon Ivor
10 months
@TheAnonymous_PA BMA suddenly thinking it is the department of health.
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@Bonivorlewis
Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@TomStocks1982 We do support your cause, however most pay threads lead to anti-PA ideology and profession bashing.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@Petr615 @Jvegas43 @Depheruk @asda That’s kind of you to help, but one bad example doesn’t mean all cries for help are a “scam”. There’s other meals in the day apart from tea, would be losing weight. May not be near a refuge/appropriate for children. It’s entirely plausible.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@drmarkyarnie @timricketts_ @BellaRoscetti There is, you haven’t completed a PA degree/sat the FPA entry exam. Why do you insist on degrading our profession by saying you could just apply for our job?
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@Bonivorlewis
Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@ClinoncReg @noodles_nood @BellaRoscetti It’s okay, people like to attribute the issues with their role to other roles completely seperate from their own.
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@Bonivorlewis
Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@Xe4f145d16s2 @ZS_Chaudhry @WayneSwann9 Gotta agree, it’s wrong to say you “went to medical school” if you didn’t finish your medical degree/did PA. It’s misrepresentation. We are our own role, it blurs the lines by saying “I went to medical school”
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@Bonivorlewis
Mr Bon Ivor
1 year
@eggy74 Junior Doctors’s aren’t trainees. They’re qualified doctors. They pay a significant amount in to their pension also. The electrician/plumber would also not have their student debt a junior doctor has.
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@Bonivorlewis
Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@thegradmedic @TomStocks1982 @_garmc But surely you can see how the tone of your initial message comes across, not only is it belittling nursing associates it’s belittling PA’s too?
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@Bonivorlewis
Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@HaaanInglis @Naomimiii And we’d all live underwater by then anyway.
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@Bonivorlewis
Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@Doctor_Erin_ Most of those discounts are pointless anyway and most you can’t actually redeem at any reasonable time. “Only available on Thursdays at 14:35pm if the temperature is exactly 18 degrees”
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Mr Bon Ivor
1 year
@Dr_Done_ This isn’t a question from the FPA’s exam. Don’t spread lies. At least use some truths to backup your ridiculous argument.
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@Bonivorlewis
Mr Bon Ivor
1 year
@emmaroc33249448 @SteveBarclay They are the NHS = no doctors = no NHS.
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Mr Bon Ivor
4 months
@DocAnonX Many GP practices have partners who are non medics.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@doctorrah I’m sure on the other hand the consultation to switch to the alternative forceps was next to none. Cost saving. Procurement are not medically trained and it’s very dangerous having them make decisions like this with little to no consultation.
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@Bonivorlewis
Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@PamelaAmeliaK You’re a highly educated professional - should be paid every minute of your time imo. If you called a plumber/electrician would they only bill you for 75% of the time it took or all of their time?
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Mr Bon Ivor
8 months
@anonPA5 Just a bunch of hot headed people thinking that the BMA actually holds any power. Perhaps they should stick to pay restoration since that’s going well for them.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@martinswadley @DrLindaDykes @Xeon4f145d96s1 @Parody_RCGP @aberdeenuni If PA’s pay fees and are allowed by doctors to attend the mess then what’s the issue - if I work with my colleagues and suddenly it came to lunch “sorry guys I’m not allowed to eat with you”. See how silly that seems?
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Mr Bon Ivor
1 year
#medtwitter - we can’t possible have this profession going around unregulated. Also #medtwitter - the GMC are now going to regulate them? Outrageous!
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Mr Bon Ivor
1 year
If I paid RCN membership I’d be annoyed that my money was being spent to pedal this awful deal.
@theRCN
The RCN
1 year
You have until 9am on 14 April to accept or reject: - £1,655 - £3789 cash payment for 22/23 - 5% pay uplift for 23/24 - national policy framework for safe staffing - specific work to improve career progression and pay for nursing Vote today:
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@Xeon4f145d96s1 Nearly £1000 a year to have the “privilege” to park at work. Disgusting. It’s criminal that staff have to pay at all.
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Mr Bon Ivor
2 years
@JadeRus45442176 I’m not recommending anyone apply to Portsmouth if this is the attitude of their course director.
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@Bonivorlewis
Mr Bon Ivor
1 year
@Xeon4f145d96s1 @RoyLilley He lacks any actual credentials but has somehow made his way in to health journalism.
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Mr Bon Ivor
5 months
@daniellejade198 Literally yes my theory is there’s multiple people running multiple accounts.
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Mr Bon Ivor
5 months
@DrAsifQasim @NHSEngland Why do you post these lies? It’s absolutely untrue what you’re saying. The majority of PAs are paid at band 7. Many PAs were AHP in Band 6+ roles prior to applying for PA. There is absolutely no evidence that PAs “failed to get in to medical school”.
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Mr Bon Ivor
1 year
@veggieequallife They’ve been misinformed, there is no issue in correcting them. PA isn’t medicine.
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Mr Bon Ivor
7 months
@iDrSunny @HullYorkMed All this information is available online?
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Mr Bon Ivor
8 months
Woe betide if you wish to develop your knowledge of imaging. Is it not good practice to look at imaging to develop one’s knowledge?
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Mr Bon Ivor
8 months
@Xeon4f145d96s1 Other non doctors are frequently awarded honorary fellowships.
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