@ToryFibs
As the wealth divide between the war torn countries and the western world grows, the economic pull for illegal migration becomes greater and greater. Want to tackle the illegal migration? Let’s start with the basics, such as international peace, trade and economic development
@Nedu_MD
@RajAttavar
As much as I’d like to never see colleagues like Dr Hilton, I appreciate it will take time for these dinosaurs to retire and for culture to change. All we can do for now is to keep challenging such views and stand up to our seniors if needed.
@Dr_Done_
@veggieequallife
I have more questions about why the junior doctors comply with these requests as opposed to PAs asking. We only prescribe what we deem right. Prescribing medication on behalf of PAs is not right and we should politely decline. Am I missing something?
@DrEilidhMaria
4. PAs are not the culprits here. Most work within their scope and those that don’t have been encouraged to do so by their managers and seniors. It is difficult to judge your own limits when your seniors suggest you’re capable much more than you actually are.
@ChristmasRowena
They are not part-time.
I think we should stop all this pay per session nonsense and start paying hourly rate to salaried and locum GPs
@wdpsychiatry
@ManUpTheySaid
This mainly applies to mild-to-moderate depression. What about severe depression with biological features? What about bipolar?
@DLGDen
What we have is a very perverse situation where sick patients are hoarded in AnE corridors whilst MFFD patients occupy acute beds on the wards because their social care needs exceed their social care support in the community.
I’m not sure how best to address this, but asking…
@DrEilidhMaria
…has anyone considered what this coordinated personal attack might do to her mental health or future career?
3. There is defo a problem of PA role abuse. Do share facts, debate and refrain from personal attacks and no one will have anything against you.
@DrEilidhMaria
Non-anonymous accounts follow it more or less. IMO it is the anons that are the problem:
1. Bullying and shutting down anyone who disagrees with them, which prevents hearing out both sides or having a reasonable debate.
2. Trashing Emily the ENT PA by sharing hearsay…1
@Dr_Done_
My personal feeling is that all this PA bashing is a bit pathetic. There is plenty of work for everyone. If a PA van driver ECT to the same standard as a doctor then there is no reason they shouldn’t be delivering ECT.
@Jo_McGinn
@DrEilidhMaria
That’s not OK. But that’s something for the PA, juniors and their bosses to sort out locally. Doing so on the social media results in personal attacks. Have I always been exemplary in my professional behaviour? Probably not. Would I like a group of anons to attack me on social…
@Xeon4f145d96s1
On what planet do PAs feel jealous of doctors? Jealous of what exactly? Working longer and unsociable hours? Baring more responsibility? Getting paid less?
@nicalexander1
@Dr_Done_
@ImperialNHS
How about we start by rolling out a large scale trial where we use SHOs as a gold standard group for comparison to PAs and ANPs? We could get consultant to observe and rate participants assessing and managing patients followed by Q&A on the basic knowledge pertinent to the case 1
@drcmday
This was very enlightening. Converting a patient safety issue to an employment tribunal issue is of course a heinous strategy. Surely there should be an even more heinous strategy to fight it?
@jakepmann
@clifford0584
You can become whoever you want and specialise in whatever you want - it all really depends on how much time and effort you’re prepared to put in. The tougher the competition the more commitment you have to make to remain competitive. This might not be an issue in your twenties..
@ToryFibs
I think currently both parties - the Labour and the Tories - are in dire need of leaders that have a firm vision and a strong sense of direction they want to take. Populism is a not only feeble, but also dangerous long term.
@mevparekh
The rate is for FY1, except you don’t pocket £35 as your locum tax is ~40%. Financially, it only makes sense to locum if you don’t have a regular job.
@HelenRSalisbury
@rheumipainmask
@Parody_RCGP
@doctor_katie
@BMA_GP
@rcgp
I had some interesting conversations in the last few weeks about the equivalence/comparability of PAs and SHOs. However, what is happening in GP actually goes one step further and implies that PAs (2 years non-prescriber) are more qualified than SHO (7+ years and prescriber).
@DrNeenaJha
Start subsidised childcare and then we can talk about full time working. Currently, I’d be working to only pay someone else to look after my kids - makes no sense
@nicalexander1
@Dr_Done_
@ImperialNHS
The consultants would be blinded and would have to guess whether the clinician is an SHO, PA or ANP. Based on how PAs and ANPs are used within the NHS you’d expect these roles to be interchangeable. If they are not then either a change in training or utilisation of PAs is needed2
@RobSetters
@c_chief24
@mmamas1973
I agree about the need for more data.
However, in case of PAs, anecdotal evidence as well as illustrating potential safety concerns, raise another important question. Namely, how do we justify such mistakes?
@EmergMedDr
Let me introduce to you the next Tory leader. I hope she replaces Rishi sooner rather than later so as to completely tank any chances of Tories being re-elected
#UkraineAid
to all my healthcare friends please approach your NHS trusts for medical supplies that have expired or are about to expire. We are a group of UK based doctors who are organising the delivery of these supplies to t Ukrainian border
@msteggy
Why not go private? I mean the market for private GPs is ripe. Those working in private sector say they have longer appointments and see fewer patients and get paid similar to GP partners. Perhaps this is the way?
@cannula_service
@DrEilidhMaria
I know the PA’s name from anons posts.
Has your practice always been exemplary? Would you like one of the more questionable moments of your career to be scrutinised on Twitter by an anonymous mob for everyone to see?
The third point is ironing - Bullies afraid of bullying.
@SteveBarclay
@Conservatives
We all know what this is - an attempt to appeal to their electorate before the next general election. When you cannot get elected on the basis of competence, you do so by exploiting divisions in society. Come on Britain you’re better than that.
@iDrSunny
@cannula_service
Once upon a time someone made a mistake, but now we are too far in to admit it or do anything about it. After all, there are no mistakes in the NHS… just like there never was any crime or alcoholism or drug use in the Soviet Union
@danielrao007
@Dr_Done_
But they receive 2 years of clinical training. So perhaps they have some clinical utility? I’m not suggesting that putting them on SpR or Consultant rotas, but there are plenty of scope for clinics work at a lower level.
@Inversionism
Can you name a single war that was fought in accordance with the international law? I can’t. I think we are asking the impossible. War is cruel and brutal and instead of condemning war crimes we should condemn war itself.
@Leeannlang6
@AegeriusA
@nanjpowell
@BrianKarem
That’s exactly what disinformation shoul be countered with. Censoring free speech is not the answer as it creates thought police and we all know very well what it is capable of. Think Spanish Inquisition, Islamic state, Taliban, KGB etc
@MJA9622
You absolutely hit the nail on the head here.
Two things might bring a change in the government’s position:
1. Indefinite walk out
2. Change in the government
@SexTradeTruths
@ifellonithonest
Thank you for educating me on this topic. I did not realise that. Do you have a link to estimates of the proportion of sex workers that have been trafficed?
The evidence is clear regarding equality model. All countries should adopt it.
@iDrSunny
Interesting. Given how poorly the PA role has been implemented, there are good reasons why nhs bosses might fear scrutiny. That’s OK though - empty threats is a sign that they have nothing else to throw at us.
@CraigNikolic
Without profit the leadership will always choose the path of least resistance, which in the case of the NHS or any other socialist contraption for that matter involves covering up failures and exaggerating successes.
@jakepmann
@clifford0584
… but once you have family and kids, dedicating time to personal development and career becomes harder. Sussing out less competitive options becomes the name of the game… unless of course you’re prepared for your family to take a hit
@DrHFRyan
As someone who comes from a very poor background I can honestly say that while there is a minimu standard of financial security required, kids need their parents love, time and attention more. It creates an emotional baseline for the rest of their life that serves as a safety net
@sayedalderazi
@iDrSunny
I have no issues with non-doctors taking up doctors’ roles so long as it is done in a regulated and accountable manner. My main issue with PAs is not scope creep, but rather the Wild West aspect of it
@Nell14354877
@dr_irfan_malik
Easier said than done. These patients collect the three strikes very quickly and yet referring them on acts only to reinforce their worries.
@DoctorPonglenis
… than most trainee doctors, working exclusively sociable hours, acting like the bees knees and being prioritised for difficult to come by training opportunities. It doesn’t take a genius to understand that you’re going to get trouble.
@EmergencyBod
BP > 180/120 in ED and my local guideline tells me assess for end organ damage and if none present start amlodipine + ramipril + arrange f/u via ambulatory care. Is this wrong?
@Troubleinu
@HenriettaMk
@Dr_Done_
That’s my problem with the doctors profession - very quick to project their insecurities into others and blame anyone who threatens status quo even when status quo is undesirable.
@HelenRSalisbury
@AliJaneMoore
I still don’t understand why staff grades SHOs are not being recruited instead of PAs. We are definitely more qualified than PAs, more independent, can prescribe and don’t cost that much. Please make it make sense.
@c3convertase
@dobbyjog
@cannula_service
Disagree. Prescribing is a privilege which we are trusted with by the patients. Non-prescriber asking a junior doctor to prescribe is neither appropriate nor safe. It is our responsibility to politely decline such requests and in fact not doing so questions our probity
@iDrSunny
What would be the practicalities of converting a traditional GP partnership surgery into a completely private one or a mix of the two?
If I was a GP I’d be looking to do that so that I could have more control over my earnings and running of the business including HR.
@Jo_McGinn
@DrEilidhMaria
CEO’s job is to withstand criticism and scrutiny. I wouldn’t worry about that.
The other case is a fair example of job well done.
The ENT PA on the other hand is being personally targeted by transcribing her interview and sharing hearsay. Is that acceptable?
@cannula_service
@Platform_crocss
@simontutt88
@Dr_Sarah_Bellum
Hm. I don’t like this argument because it essentially suggests that we should place a lid on the progression of HCPs thus trapping them in the shortage positions.
Not too dissimilar an argument to the governments proposal to create an apprentice medical model ending brain drain
@jim_crawfurd
@msteggy
It might be a very long fight and the chances of a favourable outcome are quite low. So you might bare all the costs and never see any of the benefits. When was the last time the NHS was well funded?
@mouseter_chef
@socalmpaul
@Dr_7668407
@veggieequallife
@Dr_Done_
@DocEd
If PAs turn out to be cock up or conspiracy we should then challenge it, but do so in a constructive manner. First, understand why these roles are being introduced. Second, assess if they are fit for purpose. Third, push for a clearly outlined policy change if they are not.
@iDrSunny
Hm. I think there is a potential for AI-human collaboration to improve current triage of patients at the first point of contact be it AnE 111 999 or GP reception. The human counterparts here would be receptionists, nurses etc.