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invertedcoriolis

@InvCoriolis

8 days

You can teach a monkey to play the piano, but it will never compose a symphony.

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invertedcoriolis

@InvCoriolis

11 days

This nonsense about 'different knowledge, skills and expertise' has to stop. PAs have a small subset of the knowledge, skills and expertise of a doctor. There's nothing "different" about it

GMC

@gmcuk

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2/6 We will become a multi-professional regulator, but we’ll regulate doctors, PAs and AAs as three distinct professions. PAs and AAs aren’t doctors and they can’t replace them, as they have different knowledge, skills and expertise. Our Chair, Dame Carrie MacEwen wrote to all UK…

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Sounds like somebody's been playing in the red column

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1 month

@DrNeenaJha I had a PA call me about a child with asthma to ask me if they needed admission or not. I asked that supervising GP examine the child, but supervising GP was not on site. PA advised me this was their “bread and butter”.

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Lauren Taylor

@Long_way_round_

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@Caesarnots96696 @amnerisuk @LittlePersonDoc @IncogAssociate Hi - I’m a Doctors Assistant - we are Band 3. We exist to protect training time for Foundation Doctors. As a role, we do a lot of admin, drafting discharge letters, phlebotomy/cannulation/cultures, scribing on ward round etc.

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@InvCoriolis

10 days

'Professional discrimination' is something you just made up. Could homeopaths claim 'professional discrimination' against the entire scientific community? Profession is not a protected characteristic (see below). Also, PA is not a profession. Get a grip @StGeorgesUni , jeez.

St George's, University of London

@StGeorgesUni

10 days

We have recently seen discussions across social media about upcoming graduation ceremonies for our Medicine and Physician Associate programmes. Read our full statement in response to these discussions here:

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@InvCoriolis

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Absolutely ridiculous @UniofNewcastle Refuse to supervise 🫸 Refuse to train 🫸 Refuse to engage 🫸 Image: @r1chardf1tzg3r1

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@InvCoriolis

3 months

Police don't care, (incorrectly) say talk to the GMC. GMC don't care, say talk to FPARCP. FPARCP don't care, say we can't do anything if they're not registered on the voluntary register. Trust doesn't care, happy to sweep literal crimes under the rug until found out by an FOI.

ExplosiveEnema

@ExplosiveEnema2

3 months

I'm still amazed by this Illegal prescribing of Class A, B, and C drugs. Yet who is it protecting patients? The Trust 🙈 The Police 🙈 FPARCP/GMC 🙈 An anonymous pizza online ✅ What sort of crazy topsy turvy country are we living in!?

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@InvCoriolis

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Important point. These contracts requiring PAs to see undifferentiated patients only exist because if they did not stipulate this, there would be no economic value. But how do we square this with the fact that every patient seen has to be seen again by a GP afterwards?

Shammy

@Shamz_141

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@IncogAssociate @KadeFlowers @VishwajeetP4t3l As I understand it, PCNs are mandated to allow you to see undifferentiated patients if they are to benefit from the lucrative ringfenced ARRS. Without it, what could you do that another GPST can’t do is the question you’re avoiding here. You cost the same to the taxpayer patients

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@InvCoriolis

10 days

And yet the very day after @gmcuk say this look what happens: So the trust who inappropriately hire a PA to cover a locum should be reported to... *checks notes* the trust who inappropriately hired a PA to cover a locum? Wtf do we need @gmcuk for?

GMC

@gmcuk

11 days

4/6 Any rota or team which expects or instructs a PA or AA to replace the role of a doctor should be raised locally. Like any other member of staff in the health service, PAs and AAs can only do what they have the training, experience, and knowledge to do.

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@InvCoriolis

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@drcolinm Hey Colin, thanks for that - but we know how things stand at the moment already. Just in case you missed it, the question is actually "Are the GMC laying the groundwork for future PAs to take the MLA?" Please clarify. Cheers!

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@InvCoriolis

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@medicalmodelbri @TheBMA @RobLaurensonD4P @BMA_James_Steen @parthaskar @DrNeenaJha @doctor_oxford What, you mean like they were *SUPPOSED TO DO*? These people have no insight at all...

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@InvCoriolis

8 days

No unique skills. Finally.

IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

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@medicalmodelbri @ClearThinker66 @Shamz_141 @InvCoriolis @VishwajeetP4t3l When were PAs marketed as bringing unique skills? We simply serve as an additional pair of hands to aid the NHS in meeting its demands. Not everything that presents to primary care needs to be seen by a GP.

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@InvCoriolis

1 month

@IVfacts I thought PAs weren't supposed to be used to cover for Drs strikes? Which trust is this?

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@InvCoriolis

11 days

@gmcuk This nonsense about 'different knowledge, skills and expertise' has to stop. PAs have a small subset of the knowledge, skills and expertise of a doctor. There's nothing "different" about it

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@InvCoriolis

2 months

💯 As far as general practice goes, PAs have no place

WorthWords

@WorthWords

2 months

@quackophage Physical associates receive no accredited GP training , no RCGP recognised qualifications. And their PA degree is unaccredited. They are just PAs who assist GPs not 'registered GP physician associate'

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@InvCoriolis

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The absolute state of the GMC in 2024 when they have to put statements like this out because nobody trusts them to do their job or act with integrity anymore... 🤡

GMC

@gmcuk

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🧵1/6: We want to help patients and the profession understand more about our work to prepare for the regulation of physician associates (PAs) and anaesthesia associates (AAs). We've put together this thread to answer the main questions you've asked about this on social media this…

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@InvCoriolis

2 months

@james_bedford Have no doubt you make decisions with good intentions & wellbeing of your patients and team at heart. Your juniors are lucky to have you. But still doesn't change the fact that shortage on a Drs rota needs more Drs, not PAs. Gov, Royal colleges and GMC have failed us all here.

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@InvCoriolis

22 days

Refuse to supervise 🫸 Refuse to train 🫸 Refuse to engage 🫸

Askforadoctor

@Ask_foradoctor

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If you don't re-examine and take a history from a patient a PA has seen, you can get struck off. Don't train. Don't supervise. Don't entertain PAs.

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@InvCoriolis

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@SaraTon08500527 @carolvorders And that's after more years of training and with deeper knowledge of pharmacology and medicine than PAs! Just imagine the carnage if any old Joe could go round writing prescriptions.

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@InvCoriolis

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@Cleverclog67596 Jesus Christ. A medical student doing this would be up in front of @gmcuk before the end of the week.

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@InvCoriolis

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@DrNeenaJha TL;DR (because we know some people are partial to shortcuts): Medicine is very complex and the diagnostic process of a GP is beyond the ability (and arguably the comprehension) of those who have not gone through med school and GP training. There are no exceptions to this rule.

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@InvCoriolis

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@IncogAssociate Lol, royal college of clowns is still - at the end of the day - full of clowns

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@InvCoriolis

2 months

@SarahLudford Lol then maybe you should turn up to your seat at the House of lords when stuff like this is being discussed eh Sarah? Your brilliant peer @natalieben did a lot of good reading into and work on this topic. Time for you to start searching.

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@InvCoriolis

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@Xeon4f145d96s1 (Disclaimer: Not defending views of the account in the bottom which are reprehensible, just pointing out the dissonance in the GMC response)

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@InvCoriolis

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@trishgreenhalgh @RCPhysicians if you do not act with transparency and integrity, people will vote against your recommendations. It will be the end of the royal college

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@InvCoriolis

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@IncogAssociate Lurking around the corridors of a medical school for 2 years doesn't make you medically trained.

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@InvCoriolis

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@IncogAssociate Lurking around the corridors of a medical school for 2 years doesn't make you medically trained. 😂

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@InvCoriolis

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@VictoriaAtkins Too bad you haven't done anything to that effect then, isn't it Vicky? Also, looking for support from the Daily Fail 🤣 shows how low you are

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@InvCoriolis

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Being anon or not doesn't affect the strength of the argument presented. Your views would carry a lot more credibility if you could construct a proper rebuttal

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@InvCoriolis

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@parthaskar @RCPhysicians @mmamas1973 @doctor_oxford @trishgreenhalgh @AntonEmmanuel2 @DrLKVaughan @UKGastroDr @RowanHarwood @EileenBurns13 @DrAsifQasim @RoshanaMN Excellent use of "chicanery" 🫡

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@InvCoriolis

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@Cleverclog67596 "a whole medical profession" lol. There is one medical profession - Doctor of Medicine. Everything else is AHP at best, quack at worst.

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@InvCoriolis

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@IncogAssociate Try reading the community note on your original tweet and you might understand why your argument is trash....

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@InvCoriolis

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@SaraTon08500527 @carolvorders You think someone less experienced is going to be better?

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@InvCoriolis

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@pulsetoday Yeah sorry but no. No homeopathy degree that spent 2 years in clown school is having a say in what they can and cannot do.

Physician’s Associates qualify for courses with degrees including homeopathy and English literature

Telegraph investigation reveals universities offering the course accept range of first degrees with little scientific content

www.telegraph.co.uk

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@InvCoriolis

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@ExplosiveEnema2 @gmcuk @drcolinm @AlisonGeorge10 @DrAsifQasim @DrLKVaughan @DrSteveTaylor @iDrSunny @UKGastroDr @parthaskar @AliJaneMoore @Doc_IonaCollins @RoshanaMN @gmcuk has a funny old selection process of what they respond to on X. I wonder if this will count as a topic important enough for them to comment on. If they choose not to, they can just give up being a regulator for Drs today.

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@InvCoriolis

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Refuse to supervise 🫸 Refuse to prescribe 🫸 Refuse to engage 🫸

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@InvCoriolis

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@anarchomed Not sure about the reviews being done without supervision but definitely a step in the right direction RE the new patients

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@Xeon4f145d96s1 "Surgical Physician Associate" needs to be retracted. Don't know the source of this bio, but someone should kindly let them know and let @RCPhysicians know too.

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@InvCoriolis

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@GMCharlatan "5+ years: Considered for partnership" wut... That's like considering an FY2 for partnership (in terms of years of training, obviously still NOTADOCTOR) LMFAO, I want some of whatever these guys have been smoking because clearly it's a helluva trip 😂

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@InvCoriolis

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🚨🚨🚨Homeopathy, English Lit, Anthropology, Banking, Geography, Zoology ➡️ 2 year course ➡️ "GMC registered medical model professional"🚨🚨🚨 These are NOT substitutes for medical school and a PA can NEVER be a substitute for a doctor.

Physician’s Associates qualify for courses with degrees including homeopathy and English literature

Telegraph investigation reveals universities offering the course accept range of first degrees with little scientific content

www.telegraph.co.uk

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@InvCoriolis

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@BMA_JuniorDocs @VictoriaAtkins time for you to cry and throw all your toys out of the pram again.

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@InvCoriolis

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@Jo_McGinn @UMAPsUK @BMA_James_Steen Exactly this lol. @TheBMA update says this is not the scope of supervision doc, which will be coming out soon separately. Rather, this is the RECOMMENDED SCOPE OF MAP PRACTICE doc. Love it!

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@InvCoriolis

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What a mess... @RCPhysicians to blame for inappropriately housing PAs within their college in the first place and failing to set proper scope. People crying about the BMA 'not consulting with stakeholders' are quiet about RCPs lack of respect for other colleges and specialties.

Partha S Kar 🇮🇳🇬🇧🏏🎥

@parthaskar

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@DrNeenaJha @trishgreenhalgh @NHSEngland @NHSE_WTE @RCPhysicians @NHSEmployers @mmamas1973 @doctor_oxford @JanetEastham @DrAsifQasim @DrLKVaughan @RowanHarwood @UKGastroDr @AntonEmmanuel2 @rcgp so here's a question- if the RCP come out and say PA shouldn't be seeing undifferentiated patients- do they adhere to that as RCGP- or will they be doing their own scope?

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@InvCoriolis

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@ItsnotrightUK Hmmm.. it's almost like.. the most effective way to work with a PA is.. as an *Assistant* Wow(!)

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@InvCoriolis

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@Parody_RCGP 💯 Except that if the GP had to review the patient it would immediately be clear why PAs in primary care are a waste of space.

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@InvCoriolis

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@KyleRoys @ajpigott_anna @Microbedoc2 @DrNeenaJha It gets even worse, you could be a GP asking advice from a hospital team but you're still responsible if you get advice from a PA:

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@InvCoriolis

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@Dr_Done_ @gmcuk @gmcuk where are you?

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@AlisonGeorge10 @DCanworth @Mary_Tom11 @DrNeenaJha @ExplosiveEnema2 @DrEilidhMaria @TheDA_UK @Dr__Sarmy @TheBMA @JujuliaGrace @HelenRSalisbury @ShaunLintern Exactly this. Either: 1. The GP checks every patient he sees 2. The patients he sees are getting substandard care There is no third option.

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@InvCoriolis

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@ExplosiveEnema2 @gmcuk @medicalmodelbri @drcolinm What a sad state of affairs. The job @gmcuk should be doing (i.e. protecting the British public from inadequately trained practitioners) has to be done by a bunch of anonymous accounts on X because @gmcuk has sold out public safety to line their own pockets.

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@InvCoriolis

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@doctor_oxford @RCPhysicians Thank you for standing up to the @RCPhysicians bullies

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@skynetbuffering @IncogAssociate @medicalmodelbri @ClearThinker66 @Shamz_141 @VishwajeetP4t3l Absolutely spot on. PA is not a profession

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@Cleverclog67596 lmfao I don't think they could have gotten it more wrong than that. Since the release of BMA guidance yesterday, we are now the LEAST confused about what PAs can and can't do that we have been in the last 20 YEARS.

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@InvCoriolis

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@VictoriaAtkins @Telegraph This is an absolute joke. Vicky you have no right to brag to press about now promising to fulfill basic contractual agreements that have existed for years but @NHSEngland has failed to deliver on until now. If this is all you can muster after months of work, I'm going elsewhere.

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@InvCoriolis

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Cool story bro... Either way, PAs will no longer be doing any red column activities. Also why are the replies locked?

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@medicalmodelbri "A PA is a medical professional.." didn't even make it 5 words without going wrong. A PA is not medical and PA is not a profession.

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@InvCoriolis

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@medicalmodelbri @djnicholl @Dr_Done_ He's neither generalist nor specialist. He's an unqualified imposter.

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@IncogAssociate Nah, it's called having standards.

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@AssociateMag Spare Lanyard VONC positive/neutral Hilarious, but sadly too close to reality

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@InvCoriolis

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@doc_hnaqvi @ShammasRahim @marshaj1772 @johannenewens @doc_AMajeed @DeepthyMadhavan @Mikeblaber @swbohw @SWBHnhs @AnnaLock1 @JatiOHWB 🤮

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@helloworldbbd @IncogAssociate Incog is the greatest anti-PA account on X

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@InvCoriolis

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@IVfacts @DudleyGroupNHS If an SHO prescribes thrombolysis based on the assessment and advice of the PA in this situation and the patient suffers an ICH because the PA got it wrong, who is responsible?

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@InvCoriolis

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@NHSHandSan For the record, this doc (Reddit post says they're an SHO) offered a very generous rate of £50/hr. What we should all be doing is informing departments of proper market rates for locum work. Use to make one. @NHS_RRT

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@InvCoriolis

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💯 I totally agree with this. There is no PA project without doctors and we will be the ones setting the terms. Unless it's in the green column: Refuse to supervise 🫸 Refuse to train 🫸 Refuse to engage 🫸

Roshana 🦴

@RoshanaMN

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Nah mate You need to listen to what’s happening on the ground and the multitude of patient safety concerns and goings on ALREADY happening throughout the country We will not accept a TOP-DOWN approach to this You need our consent to provide this scope

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@Cleverclog67596 Jesus Christ. We've pulled back the veneer and are just now seeing how far the termites have gone... Genuinely horrifying

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@InvCoriolis

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@UMAPsUK cool story bro Still doesn't mean you'll be doing anything not in the green column 💚

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@InvCoriolis

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@TomStocks1982 @BBCNews She's blocking anyone and everyone that points out the issues with rapid unmoderated expansion of PAs (and anyone associated with the above too)

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@InvCoriolis

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@StGeorgesUni Glad I didn't go here, now...

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@InvCoriolis

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Lol then maybe you should turn up to your seat at the House of lords when stuff like this is being discussed eh Sarah? Your brilliant peer @natalieben did a lot of good reading into and work on this topic. Time for you to start searching.

Sarah Ludford 🇬🇧 🇮🇪🇪🇺 🇺🇦

@SarahLudford

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Can someone tell me what the hell is going on? What are the rights of patients? If I seek a GP appointment, get offered a PA & say no, I want a doctor, what happens? I have had zero information about all this.

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lmfao I don't think they could have gotten it more wrong than that. Since the release of BMA guidance yesterday, we are now the LEAST confused about what PAs can and can't do that we have been in the last 20 YEARS.

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@ExplosiveEnema2 @StGeorgesUni Likewise, didn't really care about this either when the screenshot dropped on Twitter the other day but SGUL coming out using terminology like PAs are some sort of oppressed minority with a protected characteristic pisses me off

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@InvCoriolis

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@KatPaton13 As @BMA_James_Steen pointed out the trust is >5 WTE Drs short by those numbers. If they are rejecting Drs without interview, what does it say about the competence of their management/HR? What does it say about @gmcuk 's claim that Drs are not being replaced with inferior staff?

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@chayesmagill @DrNeenaJha Infuriating that you have to accept substandard care because the powers that be have decided to restrict your access to doctors and are forcing you to be at the mercy of non-medical pseudoprofessions instead.

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@InvCoriolis

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@gmcuk And yet the very day after you say this look what happens: Are you saying the trust who inappropriately hire a PA to cover a locum should be reported to... *checks notes* the trust who inappropriately hire a PA to cover a locum? Wtf do we need you for?

Dr Done

@Dr_Done_

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The current reality for doctors: Hospitals plugging doctor gaps with PAs who can’t do half of what a doctors does (and can’t safely do 90% of what a doctor does) The result is double the work for the doctor + increased risk on their medical license with every shift

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@IncogAssociate They're getting absolutely taken apart for a nonsensical statement lol. This isn't a mic drop, this is a huge fail

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@InvCoriolis

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@ExplosiveEnema2 @gmcuk Oh boy here we go... @gmcuk you need to answer this. The only solution in the meantime is for all PAs to be at all times attached to a consultant in an ASSISTANT role working under the consultant with direct supervision. i.e. never more than 5 metres away in clinical setting

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@InvCoriolis

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💯 convinced Med Ed is where this rot began

Anna Rebowska

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@Dr_Done_ I strongly believe that what allowed PA idea to really take hold is a product of the medical education lobby and what they have done with UK training programs.

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MAPs are not BMA members... But all their supervising *Doctors* are and it is lovely to finally have a scope set for what tasks are appropriate to supervise when working with MAPs. Big clean-up of working practices incoming.

Physician Associate Association UK (PAAUK)

@PPaauk

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NHS Employers acknowledges that today’s BMA guidance on scope for another professional group was developed without input from FPA or MAPs. MAPs are not BMA members. Employers responds to BMA guidance on the role of MAPs | NHS Employers

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"We've systematically abused, neglected, bullied and harassed doctors for years and they seem to be leaving" 🤔

GMC

@gmcuk

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Today we’ve published our latest research into migration trends in the UK’s medical workforce. The research explores the reasons why doctors have left or may be considering leaving the UK to practise abroad. Retention is a vital part of any plan to maintain a sustainable…

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@InvCoriolis

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@UKGastroDr Like UGI endoscopy, perhaps? *cough* Keith *cough*

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@InvCoriolis

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@GMCharlatan @oncopharmacist Good grief, it's such trash-teir study design. Main outcome measured - 'wait time', has nothing to do with the grade of person seeing them. Why not also study air temperature in the car park with regard to the number of porters on shift? 'quantitative study of outcomes' my arse

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@InvCoriolis

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It ain't elitist to protect patients from avoidable harm. It's called being a medical professional - something beyond the understanding of *those who are not*.

IncogPA

@IncogAssociate

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See reposts, quotes and comments for exceptional examples of elitism, protectionism, toxicity, bullying culture, hierarchical power dynamics in healthcare settings, and unprofessional behavior.

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@mouseter_chef @ExplosiveEnema2 💯 this. FPA deciding what PAs can and can't do is laughable and can be summarily ignored and responded to with: "Thanks for your opinion but this is the approved list of tasks that I will be supervising in your practice - "

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@InvCoriolis

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@SaraTon08500527 @drgarethroberts @carolvorders Here's a different section of the article you posted that you conveniently left out...

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@RCPhysicians Damn is this failed royal college still running?

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@medicalmodelbri @ExplosiveEnema2 @AlderHey @NHSEngland @JanetEastham please look into this! @AlderHey is deleting evidence of PAs being inappropriately used to cover work that required medically qualified professionals

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4 months

@SaraTon08500527 They are homogeneous in that none have been to medical school. Therefore none should be filling a role that requires a doctor. Regardless of prior experience.

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@rebeccabutlerm2 @DrEilidhMaria This is not going to age well ...

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@InvCoriolis

13 days

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Partha S Kar 🇮🇳🇬🇧🏏🎥

@parthaskar

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I would urge the @gmcuk to stop using the term “Medical Professionals” Bar confusion for the public as well as creating more divisions between Doctors & MAPs? It achieves nothing I was assured it would be used sparingly when raised to senior executives. Please stop doing so

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3 months

@ExplosiveEnema2 @Xeon4f145d96s1 @JoOgidi @mjv__1 "the theatre route" ffs It's called surgery and a prerequisite is medical school

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@InvCoriolis

3 months

@SaraTon08500527 Yes, because the GMC is an exemplar of civility and right-conduct. Lmfao

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2 months

@DocAnonX >40% increase since 2010 @VictoriaAtkins , we'll take the same as what you're having. Thanks 😉

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@InvCoriolis

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@DrRJWebb @IncogAssociate @medicalmodelbri @ClearThinker66 @Shamz_141 @VishwajeetP4t3l You mean... sort of like... an ASSISTANT?

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@Ask_foradoctor PAs don't like getting bogged down in that 'nitty gritty' stuff remember?

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1 month

@skutnuratnu @emergingcannula @Dr_Done_ Lol exactly. It's called 'a short lived flash of insight'

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@defpavsdr @medicalmodelbri @NHSEngland @rcgp Now try asking the PA where the piriform fossa is, how to determine correct placement of the NG tube on an x-ray or why they should be wary of a patient with black eye(s) with regard to an NG tube. Sorry but PAs just do not have anywhere near the knowledge of med students.

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2 months

@avonroon @UKGastroDr hey Von Goon, why is the funding for primary care being used to do secondary care work? Would you accept responsibility for remotely supervising the PAs doing this from your hospital? Actually, what are your conflicts of interest with this initiative?

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2 months

@Dr_Done_ @PPaauk Flight attendants don't tell the captain the flight plan. We don't need PA input on PA supervision.

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2 months

@eleanor__p For those that can't access the article:

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3 months

@hkg294 No Heather, steaming ahead when there are clear problems with how things are run at the moment is exactly the wrong thing to do. @RCoANews is right: halt all further expansion of the Assistant role, conduct an in-depth review of current practice, define scope (set by doctors).

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2 months

@EileenBurns13 "Of course would not suggest PAs replace doctors. However, let's use PAs to replace doctors." Shameful, Dr. Burns

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2 months

Blocked as well by @OReillyGem What a disappointment...

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