@DrPJJB
Dunno when you were a junior doctor, mate, but if you do a bit of ‘Google research’ doctors are asking for pay RESTORATION. So the equivalent of whatev you were getting paid back in the day. Pay RESTORATION. Clue is in the name.
@RCPhysicians
@JanetEastham
Rcphysicians deliberately delayed the EGM until after the whole shambles went through parliament. Presented misinformation at the EGM. An absolute scandal and
@RCPhysicians
a disgrace for this and colluding with unsafe AA/PA plan of the government
Great to see Manchester are proceeding with the AA roll out, despite the anaesthetists of the country voting against it . Band 8b. This roll should not exist. Patient safety not a concern then 🙄🙄
@KeeleUniversity
Why have you chosen to call them ‘generalist practitioners’ in this clip? That sounds a lot like ‘General Practitioners’ doesn’t it? A patient could think they are seeing a doctor, when they are not. Do you know impersonation of a doctor is illegal?
@LBC
To clarify, as
@VictoriaAtkins
can’t . Physician assistants were brought in to assist. In the UK they changed their name to ‘associate’ and
@RishiSunak
wants them actually delivering your healthcare after a 2 year course. Yes they are paid significantly more than doctors. 1/2
@VictoriaAtkins
Consultants and specialty doctors have not accepted the offer-don’t use that as an example.
The ball is still in your court to avert strikes. Restore doctors’ pay. You’ve certainly kept your own- 11th pay rise for MPs awarded to yourselves this week.
#FullPayRestoration
@NHSE_WTE
Or you can fund doctors. There are lots of GPs out of work because you are funding anyone- except- a - doctor in primary care. There are HUGE numbers of ‘junior’ doctors who can’t get onto a training scheme because you won’t fund places for them to train.
@NHSEmployers
@TheBMA
@NHSE_Danny
Stay in your lane
@NHSE_Danny
. Doctors’ union advising doctors is essential. Doctors are the supervisors and are responsible for these dependant healthcare workers. So yup, we’ll decide what’s safe, thanks.
(Well not me personally as I decline to supervise PAs)
@UMAPsUK
Study medicine. Then you’ll be in the medical community. Try GEM. Until then, you don’t get a say in medical standards and patients safety. Every doctor I know agree with Professor Kar, and will follow BMA advice. You don’t have to like it. But that’s what’s happening.
@BBCNews
The whole point is that they are NOT anaesthetists. Do your homework. The sentiment is right, the public is in danger, this is an unprecedented drop in standards of healthcare. Get it right: they are NOT anaesthetists. General anaesthesia should only be delivered by aneasthetists
@EstherClift
@IOWNHS
@melisapasi
‘ consultant practitioner’ doesn’t mean anything really. You just ‘practise’ healthcare somewhere. Why aren’t you calling yourself ‘consultant physiotherapist’ if you are a proud physiotherapist? I think you and I know you want patients to think you are a doctor.
@pulsetoday
Why are you at
@pulsetoday
giving this man such attention? And no, doctors are delighted to work alongside senior nurses and pharmacists as they are ( for some reason) specifically mentioned. Everyone working within their appropriate limits, doing what they have trained for
@JimBethell
Maybe remember patients in the midst of your
#bekind
rant? Remember them? They’re the victims of this country’s disgusting experiment. Nowhere in the world is letting people with a 2 year (some only 4 weeks/ year clinical exposure) loose on patients like the UK. Laughing stock
@ITVNewsPolitics
@itvnews
@thismorning
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again
For the Pulp fans
Rishi Sunak is a danger to Common People
‘I can’t see anyone else smiling in here’
Here he laughs when a member of the public asks why the NHS can’t go back to when it functioned we’ll before his party took over
@OReillyGem
You’ve made a propaganda piece, lacking any research and getting the facts entirely wrong. It’s bad for patients, not backed by doctors… where’s the journalism?
@gmcuk
You’ve just given yourselves a 14% pay rise. All doctors in the NHS have striked over the last year. Could it possibly, possibly have something to do with the vast pay erosion doctors have experienced, more so than EVERYONE ELSE in the public sector?
@JanetEastham
Why did this tragedy not result in an independent investigation
@RBNHSFT
Why did you ignore the opinions of EIGHT senior doctors on your conclusions? Why did the PA involved partake in the review? These are real people dying, they and their families deserve better.
@BenMearns
@sashnhs
@RCPhysicians
What is wrong with this guy?
Is it $$$$$ ?
Is one of his kids a PA?
Literally can’t fathom the reason for him saying the above. Coz it’s not in patients’ best interests, we all know that. Anyone who can shed a light of the motivation here?
@bbchealth
Why is your headline a lie?
Many royal colleges are about to have EGMs about the disaster that the government
#PAProject
poses for patients. Do your research
@bbchealth
End the
#PAProject
and preserve the right for patients to see a doctor in the NHS.
@VictoriaAtkins
@andy4wm
Fix this or there will be no doctors working in the NHSanyway👇.
Oh wait, you want to ‘staff’ the place with physician/ anaesthesia assistants, making the NHS the laughing stock of the world. This is an absolute scandal and will come back at you.
@BladeoftheS
These PA final questions are far, far lower than GCSE grade questions. My 10 year old can answer there’s and the other examples seem earlier. This is the Assistant -delivered NHS that the government plans for you. You’re gonna need all the luck you can get.
@bbchealth
Not only is your headline a lie, you neglect to say that most doctors deem the government’s
#PAProject
as a huge safety risk to patients. And you add a picture of a victim of the project to your incorrect headline. This is a terrible thing to do. Imagine her family reading this.
@DrNeenaJha
@JimBethell
@JimBethell
doesn’t get that if they haven’t trained to be a GP, they’re … not a GP. They learn marginally more than GCSE biology. Good that the public can see who is responsible when more deaths occur.
@JimBethell
@NAOorguk
Just a few examples showing thousands of doctors turned away though wanting to train as GP, surgeons, etc but the government chooses not to fund training posts for them. The ‘shortage’ of doctors is fabricated and a deliberate choice to limit your access to a doctor.
@VictoriaAtkins
You want the strikes. That’s why you didn’t come to negotiate when the January strikes finished. No one, including the public, believe a word you say. You literally want the strikes, and have forced the strikes from the start
by doing this👇 and refusing to fix it
@ShaunLintern
@nottmhospitals
This is why doctors are striking, and will continue to do so until pay is restored. Got a problem with it? Write to your MP. It’s your government causing this.
@Dr_BellaR
Picturing any of your day’s work in a healthcare setting on social media in this manner should be enough to be suspended. There must be a clampdown on this behaviour. As for a PA and a DNACPR, this dependent practitioner is out of control. Litigation lawyers, get ready
@VictoriaAtkins
Nonsense and you know it
@VictoriaAtkins
. No country in the world is arranging a health service delivered by assistants instead of doctors. Absolutely disgusting, unsafe third rate healthcare. And you know it
@Dr_Done_
Who is this fool? Why can’t everyone just rock up and do what they want then? Why are doctors forced through extensive training programmes, rotated, internationally recognised multiple postgraduate exams etc? Just why?until that’s addressed- It’s Red/ Amber/ Green for me
@gmcuk
Absolutely disgraceful dismantling of gold standard medical training. Deliberately ensures no international recognition. Dumbing down of medical standards in this country. A good time to get into medical malpractice work.
@MichelePaduano
@ShaunLintern
@doctor_oxford
@mmamas1973
It’s an absolute scandal that this was ever pushed in the first place. Disgraceful treatment of patients. They’d be as well off to google their symptoms at home. Someone who is woefully undertrained has no business seeing these patients.
@JanetEastham
The IT blunder didn’t lead to those prescriptions. The prescriptions didn’t write themselves. The individual PAs chose to do this despite knowing it was illegal. And
@CHFTNHS
has taken no action????
@doctor_oxford
@RCPhysicians
Well done taking this stand Rachel. You are on the right side of history. Take note at what integrity and standing up for patients looks like
@RCPhysicians
you seem to have long forgotten those concepts. VONC
@vicderbyshire
Just a few examples showing thousands of doctors turned away though wanting to train as GP, surgeons, etc but the government chooses not to fund training posts for them. The ‘shortage’ of doctors is fabricated and a deliberate choice to limit your access to a doctor.examples👇
@GMCharlatan
8 senior doctors disagreed with the ‘investigation’ conducted by the Royal Berkshire Hospital. This ‘investigation’ was done including the PA in question and dismissed any wrongdoing. Despite 8 senior doctors disagreeing. It appears doctors are the only ones who care for patients
@OReillyGem
There are loads of incidents. It’s not isolated. If you pop people in roles where they have a fraction of the gold standard training, of course there will be victims, deaths. Not done your research, Gem.
@ClareGerada
@ExplosiveEnema2
@rcgp
Creating a lot of anxiety in patients too. Could you remember them
@ClareGerada
? Patients deserve to be treated by doctors. You make no sense promoting PAs in primary care while also saying actual doctors who are not GPs can’t work there. Makes no sense and you know it
@JimBethell
@NAOorguk
Politicians have engineered the collapse of the NHS, and now the House of Lords are going to debate ‘alternatives’
There is no shortage of doctors. There’s a deliberate shortage of funded posts for doctors to train. There is no shortage of GPs- instead shortage of jobs for GPs.
@VictoriaAtkins
The public that pay for you and the NHS want to see a GP. Find actual GPs rather than wittering on about ‘primary care appointments’. It’s already evidenced that these additional staff don’t assist primary care workload. We want GPs.
@LBC
@VictoriaAtkins
@RishiSunak
PAs obviously will make far more errors than doctors as they are not doctors. People will die.
@VictoriaAtkins
avoided the question about what will be done following the tragic example. She wants more assistants delivering your healthcare. The NHS is being run down.STRIKE HARD
@VishwajeetP4t3l
Nope. The BMA is doing a great job on advising its members. Thanks for stepping up where everyone else has failed. Really helpful for doctors who agree to supervise PAs ( not me personally as I decline). Helpful for patients so they know who they should see and when.
@Jeremy_Hunt
@JonathanLord
Can’t wait for Square one, with Labour. Coming to a parliament near you, very soon.
The damage you have caused- one day it will come back to you and you’ll be held accountable.
@VictoriaAtkins
Why not recover ££££ from the money laundering PPE, Test and Trace and more siphoned off by your colleagues. Then use our returned money to pay for dentistry for the public. While you’re at it, see that the fraudsters are served justice. The public need easy access to dentists.
@JimBethell
Sorry I avoid the news and missed the bit where
@JimBethell
appears to have been integral to tax money laundering PPE crimes. You don’t have an ounce of credibility- no one believes a word you say. And all us docs have many more letters after our names than this lot!
@docib
Well
@gmcuk
thinks we can just Google stuff going forward, scrap both undergraduate and postgraduate training, we have smartphones instead.
GMC= Google My Condition. So I reckon the future is everyone on the shop floor telling patients to quieten down while they Google.
@wesstreeting
All public sector, including NHS, need pay restored. This can easily be afforded by appropriately taxing the dodgers and investigating the thievery and corruption of the current government. It was a good country in 2010.
@Elemjay1
@LisaT79
Dismantling the NHS, staffing it with physician assistants instead of doctors as their future plan. Good time to be a medical negligence lawyer for all the harms that patients will suffer…
@BMA_Consultants
Set more strike dates. The government doesn’t talk. The mandate to strike is clear. And the offer has been rejected. Looking for more talks is wasting our time. Time in which we should be paid better, and will never get back.
@ShaunLintern
Thanks
@ShaunLintern
There will be huge patient safety risks involved in reducing doctors and nurses. The government is a disgrace, taking away safe care that the public needs, deserves and pays for via taxation.
@NHSHighland
@quackophage
What do you mean ‘GMC recognised roles’? This was doctors only until 5 minutes ago when assistants, I mean, ‘associates’ are listed by GMC ( listed only). 87% of doctors surveyed consider them a risk to patient safety. But don’t let that get in the way, eh
@NHSHighland
@OReillyGem
‘Doctors will do clinical work’ on top of medical school. Do you mean foundation years, competitive training programmes, accredited and internationally recognised multiple post graduate examinations and training to complete training and become a GP or consultant? 1/2
@CommonsHealth
Plus forget your numbers or we’ll have to get into your Brexit voting numbers. Your offer has been rejected, consultants do not accept the 40% pay cut you have chosen to force on them. You have caused the strikes and you’ll cause more, no doubt.
@bbcquestiontime
@BimAfolami
why are you blatantly lying? Consultants haven’t settled. Junior doctors are not well paid and everyone knows it. Your party has included its own thievery- PPE and Test n Trace- in your ‘NHS funding’.
@VictoriaAtkins
hasn’t even turned up now the Jan strikes are over
@IncogAssociate
Yes, you can’t sit with us.
Because you have not trained in medicine. You are not a doctor.
If you want to sit with us, try Graduate Entry Medicine and work your way from there.
It’s as simple as making the effort to wear pink on Wednesdays.
@DrAsifQasim
Yup I think we all see the
@gmcuk
has as much credibility as the Ministry of Magic in the Order of the Phoenix. A waste of time mouthpiece, putting lives at risk.
@IncogAssociate
With this level of effort, you could have applied to GEM! You know the argument: yes doctors make mistakes; someone with a fraction of the training makes more mistakes. If you really can’t comprehend that… it’s a finding in itself.
@mmamas1973
Yet another tragedy. With so few PAs, there are a lot of issues arising- avoidable deaths, illegal supply of controlled drugs… and the government want more of this? I recall Royal Berkshire Hospital as advertising heavily for PAs not doctors, discussed here previously. Tragic.
@DrNeenaJha
@DrAsifQasim
WTAF? I cannot believe I am watching this,
@RCPhysicians
. An you hear yourself, ‘running short on time’ ? When patient safety, lives, are at risk? Like we’ve stumbled into medical Harry Potter… Harry Potter and the Deathly PAProject. Outrageous, unsafe and noted.
@JujuliaGrace
Back to the House of Horrors. Any vested interests,
@JimBethell
the way you pushed through unsafe AA/PA while even getting their job titles wrong? No doctors are supporting your ‘plan’ , thanks
@RCPhysicians
. We’ll all follow
@BMA
guide. Someone has to remember the patients.
@TomStocks1982
@wesstreeting
Agreed, there must be some employment law advice/ case here.
Another thing to consider as discriminatory is the exclusion of MBBS from application to PA ‘MSc’.
It may be illegal to exclude a group in this manner.
@wesstreeting
Just so you are clear, there is no shortage of doctors, there is a shortage of funded training posts for qualified doctors in the NHS. Doctors have lost more pay than every other public sector worker. This must be fixed, not fought, if you actually care about the public’s health
@Jo_McGinn
@RotherhamNHS_FT
yes good question. Where and when do celebrate the doctors, or do you exclude them and only focus on non- doctors? Who sees to the patients at 04:30am?
@IncogAssociate
@TheBMA
Of course they shouldn’t be regulated by
@gmcuk
. If the
@gmcuk
regulate non- doctors, it defeats the point of its own existence. Of course regulation is necessary, so is training, and the 2 years basic PA training is miles off adequacy for treating patients. Miles off.
@gmcuk
@UofGlasgow
Why are you bothering anymore? You’re deliberately blurring doctors from not doctors.
And why are you using so many exclamation marks- do you think it amuses us to be spoken to like infants? It just underlines how obsolete you are.
@SecretNHSCEO
@HSJnews
@HSJEditor
@gmcuk
is saying don’t need to learn this stuff, just Google My Condition. No need for postgraduate exams and training. An obvious build on calling PAs ‘medical professionals’. Breakdown of healthcare on the UK. Reckon your job is at risk too!
@TheBMA
You have given clear guidance for junior doctors not to do any work on behalf of PAs which is great. Could you give an official guidance to consultants that you advise us to decline to supervise PAs as no scope of practice? It’s what I say at work but my workplace is decent.