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To those consultant colleagues who vocally opposed the industrial action: please let your trust know to which charity you would like your pay uplift sent via salary deduction. I salute your principled stance.
After months of unprecedented industrial action and campaigning, months of negotiations, and weeks of voting by BMA members, today we can announce that the latest Government offer on pay and DDRB reform for consultants in England has been accepted.
@mmamas1973
As doctors we are supposed to exemplify logic, reason and use of evidence in making decisions. Our supposed leaders have seemingly abandoned these principles in advocating and defending this madness. None will answer the most basic of questions because they know it's illogical.
@NHSPracHealth
@gold103x
Good news but why does it take uproar within the medical community to achieve a U Turn? Why wasn't it blindingly obvious that consultation was required before shutting down the service unilaterally?
@RCPhysicians
It's the right decision and, as a Fellow, I thank her for it. We now need rapid reform of the College so it better represents the views of both Members and Fellows as well as being more transparent
@Xeon4f145d96s1
I find these silly baubles and trinkets quite patronising. Don't give me an award. Pay me well and respect my role. If other professions like this sort of thing then they can fill their boots
@DrJCraneBatman
I think you can reasonably raise the points pertaining to correct processes such as the practice not misrepresenting the PA role and not confusing it with the GP role at all points in the patient journey. Also offer the choice of PA or nothing
@UKGastroDr
For me it's about everything around the scope. Optimising the variceal bleeder. Timing of scope. Decisions about ITU, terlipressin Vs norad, ceiling of care etc. Is this PA doing that? If not, is the trust paying two salaries? I'm sure PA is otherwise excellent but wrong role
@DrDLittle
@drmattuk
@UKLabour
We have enough scanners and radiologists. What we need is fewer and more sensible requests. This is an artefact of Defensive Medicine and it's a big part of what's destroying healthcare. Will get worse with less qualified requesters too.
@UKGastroDr
Secondary care is woefully underfunded. Primary Care is critically underfunded. None are well funded or even adequately funded. The underfunding of one affects the other
@UKGastroDr
@BritSocGastro
@BSGTrainees
@nijbhala
@DisneyBen
@ibdseb
@anjan_dhar6
I think there must be wide involvement of trainees in any scope of practice document and my preference is that it largely sticks to the BMA traffic lights.
This is for extant PAs. I think we probably do need a consultation for whether or not we need PAs in gastro at all in future
@BuddGeorgie
@CareQualityComm
@DrPhilBanfield
You're absolutely right. 10 years ago I'd be comfortable with the NHS caring for a relative. 5 years ago I'd be a bit concerned. Now? I'd be watching everyone like a hawk. Standards have indeed plummeted for even basic care. The public have every reason to worry
@ajpigott_anna
@DrNeenaJha
I agree with other commentators Anna. This is a CQC matter if the practice cannot run safely. Any GP would instinctively know whether or not an asthmatic child needed admission. Basic stuff
@Xeon4f145d96s1
It's akin to a Cabinet revolt I guess. I can't see how she stays on in the face of this. The Clinical VP John Dean's name isn't here. He filibustered significantly at the EGM
@enderbymavis
@globalhlthtwit
Always ask what a medical provider's qualifications and job are if you are the slightest bit unsure. I would never take offence and would be pleased to tell you if I was providing your care. "I'm one of the medical team" isn't good enough and should raise suspicion
@Parody_RCGP
@clare_bwell
@parthaskar
Same. My dad came to the UK as an IMG in 1976. We had to move house 7 times between when I was 5 and 13. Hospital accommodation for first 4 moves. I hated it and never settled anywhere. Never put down roots. Dad had no choice. So many hand written c.v. s never replied to
@drokane
Or, better still, a Doctor's Assistant as is in use in some hospitals. Band 4, genuinely helpful and much valued by doctors who work with them. And actually complement the MDT..
@UKGastroDr
Without clearly defined standards and scope of practice a voluntary register is pretty worthless. May as well close it. Hardly a widely accepted mark of quality is it?
@mmamas1973
@DrSarahClarke
Agree completely Mamas. It's an institutional failure involving many leaders. That failure was appearing to listen more to the government than members and fellows. Thinking it would all blow over. It hasn't and won't. It's bigger than one person
@tirn198936
@AngliaRuskin
C,D,D at A level, sports science BSc at UEL ranked 125/130 in UK and yet... "Basically a surgeon".
I had to work SO much harder and longer to get to be a Consultant (18 years) but if I object to this nonsense then I'm apparently an unkind elitist.
@Xeon4f145d96s1
Not a minority. MOST of the consultant colleagues I know and EVERY SINGLE resident I know is against this. I only wish I was aware sooner.
@mouseter_chef
Agree completely. Tufton Street/IEA ideology has permeated govt for the las 5 years and so this was inevitable. But they knew the public and the profession would fight back so they did it by stealth. Will Wes continue their work is my question ⁉️
@LittlePersonDoc
@DrNeenaJha
Exactly. Clinical reasoning is the submerged bit of the iceberg. People only see the decisions and think it's easy. It really isn't.
@DrEilidhMaria
It's about the depth of knowledge with consultant teaching. The ability to take a case back to first principles of physiology, pharmacology etc. That shared recall of all we have learned now underpinning clinical decisions. Nothing like it ☺️
@HSJEditor
@theRCN
I don't think this is fair. BMA doesn't represent nurses so why would they comment? As doctors we are fully behind our nursing colleagues in their pursuit of pay restoration and many of us lament their lack of effective union representation. They deserve better.
@drphilhammond
PAs are not doctors. We DO have enough doctors but can't retain them so training more is just turning tap on without putting plug in bath. Retention is about the three Cs. Compensation, Culture and Conditions. All within remit of Whitehall. Ask them.
@mancunianmedic
@ErinGourley1
@gmcuk
@drcolinm
Why does
@gmcuk
not appear to be in any way accountable to anyone? We pay for registration but seem not to have a place at the table. Time to start asking questions of council and trustees if the monolith won't answer
@JimBethell
@Doctors_Vote
5th Baron Bethell. Hereditary Peer. Failed to be elected an MP on two occasions. These resident doctors enjoy a mandate you could only have dreamt of. You are unfortunately not qualified to comment. So please don't. Your party has embarrassed itself enough.
@WorthWords
@gold103x
@Dr__Sarmy
@NHSEngland
@gmcuk
@rcgp
@RCPhysicians
Yes, I'm very aware (and sorry) that in returning these referrals it's definitely adding to the headache of my GP colleagues but it's just too risky. A routine new appointment can take a year. If based on a misdiagnosis then many bad things can happen in that time.
@UKGastroDr
TPDs should be threatening such departments with losing their SpR.
I was initially skeptical of immersive training but it is a good way of getting protected intensive training time. Gets the SpR signed off quicker too and they can then contribute to service lists. Win win
@DrJCraneBatman
Perhaps a word with the practice manager that their staff are misrepresenting what GMC and royal colleges are at least paying lip service to
@SebPillon
None of this is acceptable and should prompt a sharp letter to GP liaison at the hospital. The most I ask GP colleagues to do is continue a prescription I've started or maybe check a blood count in a few months of a treated and investigated anaemic patient.
@drgandalf52
@ErinGourley1
Yes but speaking as someone who was a 1st generation immigrant in the seventies (and had plenty said to me!), I'd say the comparison drawn by the highlighted text is inappropriate. I disagree with the comparison, not the concept of civility or decency.
@Xeon4f145d96s1
@iDrSunny
@DrEilidhMaria
@ExplosiveEnema2
@Dr_Done_
Concerns from residents and students that coalesced into an excellent survey which proved most compelling. BMA resident reps did all the heavy lifting and then BMA JLNC disseminated to relevant parties. Sensible local leadership very important as well
@drokane
I remember it well DO'K. Some trusts just don't do service development and when the service goes under or fatally malfunctions they say "well, no point in criticising - we are where we are"
@KamilaRCGP
@drsarahtennant
What is required is a root cause analysis of how this ever made it into the public domain and the COI of contributors. Followed by review of similar initiatives in all other regions to see if this is a one off. I suspect it's not.
@ankitkant
@Caesarnots96696
Usually ERS logs my name but I put it down anyway. Not having a name on a clinical decision that affects a patient sounds wrong. Hospital GP liaison people should look into that for sure
@ShaunLintern
@djnicholl
Why's it always Friday afternoon? Don't they know people have more time to organise on social media at the weekend? Another own goal for
@NHSEngland
@DrSteveTaylor
@Caesarnots96696
At least they now say all work done MUST be discussed with a GP. This will be quite the challenge in some practices that have lots of PAs and few doctors.
@LittlePersonDoc
@iDrSunny
We're absolutely clear that existing tPA students must suffer no detriment or hostility. Absolutely not their fault. Just needs to be balanced with autonomy and fairness for residents
@Cleverclog67596
@gold103x
@Ask_foradoctor
@gmcuk
The problem here is also about PAs sitting outside the accepted "chain of command". I'm not into the hierarchy thing but an "authority gradient" helps a team run and everyone knows what they are doing. Nobody knows where a PA fits in, because they often don't fit into this schema
@DrSteveTaylor
With every question the patient answers we subconsciously process and discard a huge number of possibilities that suddenly become possibilities again with a later question. It's a rich diagnostic tapestry that can only be woven with study and experience.
@UKGastroDr
@gold103x
There is now a clear divide between our professional organisations and their subscribing trainee members. This is a dangerous and unsustainable tension that can only be resolved one way. The "top brass" must listen and change course. Quickly.
@Xeon4f145d96s1
@gold103x
@DrNeenaJha
I was a post MRCP registrar before I could manage an unselected medical take. That was 11 years after starting at medical school. Even then the post take round had to be done by the consultant. I wasn't completely unsupervised until consultant 17 years after starting med school
@clare_bwell
@Parody_RCGP
@parthaskar
He had me in tow as well as my baby brother and my mum who took a long time to get over the trauma of leaving her affluent extended family in India to live in doctors accommodation in the chilly north of England. Affects the whole family. Sad it still goes on decades later
@ankitkant
@Caesarnots96696
Rejections should really be an invitation to discuss or use advice and guidance if you have it. All my returned referrals come with a reason and practical alternatives available in primary care. Shouldn't just be a NO
@LittlePersonDoc
@iDrSunny
Slightly odd term for varicose eczema I expect. Why do they post this stuff on Instagram? Do regular medical students do this sort of thing?
@srturaga
@Xeon4f145d96s1
@Dr_Done_
@ExplosiveEnema2
If medicine worked like it should then we wouldn't need anon accounts. But it doesn't. It's broken. These are busy people with lots going on. They care enough to investigate/raise concerns and we should thank them
@Mark_Ungrin
@trishgreenhalgh
@GeorgeMonbiot
@DrNick4126
As a consultant I had direct confrontation with infection control about my ward staff being "allowed" to use correct PPE on the ward as everyone was dropping like flies. Thousands of examples like mine.
@enderbymavis
@globalhlthtwit
And that is undoubtedly because some of us could do better at putting our patients at their ease! I completely get that the power dynamics are all wrong in an acute healthcare setting. Rebalancing that is a great medical skill to have
We always suspected more deprived areas would have fewer GPs and more PAs. Here is the evidence that ARRS is doing exactly what Whitehall wants it to do
Me and
@maddysherratt
have spent weeks on this, so please read it! Our data analysis of what GP practices are most likely to rely on physician associates
@UKGastroDr
@BSGTrainees
So very pleased to hear this and proud of my trainee colleagues for their clarity. The bit about them having to continue what is agreed now is hugely important.
@DrEilidhMaria
After many years I've found that most of the extraneous stuff I learned eventually has a use. Also, sadly, the GMC is using the same argument to dumb down medical education and justify MAP expansion.
@mark_toshner
Sadly Mark, we know that certain med ed types will jump all over this in exchange for a sinecure lectureship or Chair. The UK medical degree is highly regarded internationally but perhaps not for much longer
@ukneurosurgeon
@gold103x
Medicine at its essence is only about two things. Standards and imparting those standards to your successors. We've abdicated responsibility for the latter and it's now affecting the former
@UKGastroDr
@BSGTrainees
@Dukes_Club
Yes, colorectal colleagues are at the back of the queue for endoscopy training at the best of times. This will get worse unless we change tack.
@mark_toshner
@GabriDiscenza
Grad med is a very different kettle of fish, I agree. More akin to the US model. Graduates are super focused and have that learning discipline absolutely nailed down. Added to their first degree,it makes 4 years absolutely do able. Different to this proposal entirely
@BMA_Consultants
To those consultant colleagues who vocally opposed the industrial action: please let your trust know to which charity you would like your pay uplift sent via salary deduction. I salute your principled stance.
Not massive fan of the Torygraph but this is compelling. Homoeopathic degree then 2 years PA training then see undifferentiated patients. Presumably the more dilute the clinical exposure the more efficacious the PA
🔴 Degrees in homoeopathy, computer science, English literature and human resources are being accepted as entry qualifications to train to become a physician associate, the Daily Telegraph can reveal
@BuddGeorgie
@CareQualityComm
@DrPhilBanfield
It's just awful, not least because doctors are still of a high standard but everything is just too busy and disorganised. Continuity of care is destroyed and nobody feels empowered to change things. Continual firefighting and moral injury
@Xeon4f145d96s1
This should be stamped out via LNC and JDF bodies in each trust. Each department has someone paid to do this. Residents are helpful for this process but it shouldn't be their sole responsibility
@Roddy_Neilson
It's one of the most stupid and disingenuous things I've seen in print. Daily Mail infographic stuff would be better than this. How on earth did it get past peer review?
@gmcuk
@theSAScollect
@drcolinm
Whilst simultaneously lowering training standards and undermining SAS colleagues with the rushed and hazardous introduction of MAPs.
@Alison6123
@Ask_foradoctor
@GreatOrmondSt
The more "prestigious" an organisation the more it will consider doctors to be privileged to work there and the more it will disrespect them. We create the prestige and management bask...
@dobbyjog
I take it to mean even you and the patient don't get to see the consent form. It's that confidential. Standard practice for non doctor lap chole dontcha' know?
@MFT_CSSAHPs
Virtual and telephone consultations for a new patient are dangerous and poor medical practice. So much nuance is lost not to mention the ability to observe the patient walking into the room and the inability to examine the patient. I refuse to see any new patients virtually
@_pinkerton__
@iDrSunny
@mmamas1973
@DrSarahClarke
@DacreJane
Yes, it's institutional failure and failure of leadership across time. This didn't happen overnight. We were all caught napping but some in power saw it and embraced it as an opportunity for self elevation. Even now they're doubling down