Apoorva Govind Profile
Apoorva Govind

@Appyg99

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Founder @BesteverAI . Ex @Ubereats . Previously @Apple . Technology Syster . Substack

San Francisco
Joined May 2010
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After months of building and sleepless nights, the launch day is finally here. I am so excited announce @BesteverAI 's public launch.
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I don’t think my parents have said “love you” to me in my life as many times as OpenAI employees have said to each other on Twitter.
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When one decides to immigrate to a different country, it’s basically admitting that the country you’re immigrating to provides you with opportunities & values that you wouldn’t have in your home country. If you truly think your own values are superior & you find yourself
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The reason I left France after a year of living there is because it’s not a serious country when it comes to capitalism. You can cry all you want about how America sucks at this or that. But let’s be real. There is no real social mobility in Europe. If there was, we’d all be
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2 years
@Austen All those minutes I spent staring at it. I feel cheated
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My cancellable take is that certain values and cultures are objectively bad
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NGL, I always thought he had zaddy energy. Back in 2012, when I interned at Nvidia, he’d invite the interns over to his place and throw a whole-ass frat party. He’s quite fun!
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this man is outta control
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Can confirm. Just yesterday, my teammate wrote a custom JSON parser that would have been a slog for 1-2 days within hours using GPT4. GPT4 is like giving each engineer their own intern who does 70-80% of the job. The remaining 30% is constraints & biz logic. Startups are going
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I don’t think people understand how fast AI is changing the game right now. The team is already using GPT-4 to build entire components in 10min that otherwise would have taken us days. We don’t even have experience in the language these components need to be written in!
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One of my Indian friends left to go back to India permanently today. This is a rising trend in my Desi groups. The biggest reason to return so far has been the lack of intimate social relationships here compared to the ones back home I guess a great career & $ only goes so far
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@bchesky I wish the avg nightly fee was transparent including cleaning fee and other hidden city fees etc. The dark pattern where you start off with $100/night and somehow end up with total of $250 after a bunch of hidden fee gets added is a bit frustrating!
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This Huberman guy preaches to not drink and go to bed at a regular hour while he’s out there dating 5 women at once. Wake up virgins, he’s psyoping & taking your girls while you sheep yourself to bed early.
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All these people from FB & Google saying what OpenAI has done is unimpressive & that FB/Goog has been doing it for a few years at scale — Ok, but who cares? You're not giving us access to your shiny technology & opening up the world to possibilities. Now you're seething & coping.
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I am currently at my parents' place in Bangalore. A unique feature of their life is that there is a constant stream of friends & neighbors who visit them throughout the day (and randomly). It drives me crazy but have to admit, their social support system is 10x mine.
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Hey, do you want to do a pointless call with me even though I have no openings for you?
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I’ve been working from WeWork this week. I am less anxious overall. The act of getting up in the morning, getting dressed to go to work is such an important mental marker. I feel like we’re all gambling away our mental health by WFH everyday.
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And I say this as an immigrant myself. The day I think of pulling down an American flag to spray paint Indian flag is the day I’ll book my one way ticket out of here.
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As a woman, I find the way people want to tokenize women into representation so insulting. They’re not trying to make a baby over here. They don’t “need” women. They need people who aren’t degens or decels
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imo the biggest task ahead for openAI is building a board that does not explicitly believe its role is to destroy the company, but who knows really could be this
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Income $200 Data $150 Rent $800 Unrealized Gain Taxes $3,600,000,000 Utility $150 someone who is good at the economy please help me budget this. my company is dying
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Apoorva Govind
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The way some people in countries like France are proud of suckling on the government’s teat is embarrassing. They have a lot of great tech talent but the ambitious ones move to the US or get funded by the American VCs & move to the US anyway…
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Yes. This sucks in the US. There is no justification as to why healthcare is so broken here. However, if you’re not obese, drug addicted or old/sick with constant need to healthcare, this is irrelevant.
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@Appyg99 But what about free healthcare?
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This is not to say one must accept everything with no criticism. No society is completely perfect. However, when you find yourself rejecting the fundamental values the society is built upon, it’s time to question why you’re living a life of dissonance.
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Apoorva Govind
3 years
When I broke up with an ex a few years ago, he gave me one final piece of advice. He said, "don't use hashtags in your Tweet. It's cringe". The best advice I've ever gotten in my life. I think about it every other day.
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Apoorva Govind
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At this event by Stripe. @sama ’s advice to startups — “Remote work is over. the more unclear and early the product is, the more in-person time the team needs to grind together”
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Just to explain how historic the Chesa recall is: Literally EVERY main stream media outlet tried to gaslight SF residents & endorsed against the recall. YET people of SF voted him out by a massive majority. Shows how out of touch MSM is with the pulse of the common man.
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My Indian friends treat having kids as an important but normal part of life. There is a level of casualness to it. Non-Indian friends OTOH are obsessive about “being ready” & how life is changing etc. With all things being equal, I wonder why the difference in attitudes?
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American restaurants don’t have the concept of letting people enjoy their dining experience. You can be having an intimate conversation & the waiter won’t think twice before interrupting you about something stupid.
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$7.4B in 20 yrs gets you this vs $13.1B every year in taxes gets you that.
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The left hates anyone who isn’t a “victim” and doesn’t need to be “saved” by them. So Jews, Asians etc We’re all basically white supremacists acc to the left.
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@growing_daniel The left hates Asians
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Apoorva Govind
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Here is a thread about unintended consequences Typically 60-70% of direct-to-consumer brands in the US are on @Shopify . Brands who sell on Shopify do so because they’re able to drive a decent amount of traffic to their site with their social media ads. CAC isn’t too high.
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@chefjeffsf Desi boomer 1st gen parents who immigrated pre 1990s weren't rich & didn't have the resources. Since the 90s, Indians immigrating to the US are knowledge workers. Rarely do they or their kids stray into service industry. Might see that change in the next decade with 2nd gen.
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California is such a nanny state. They want to ban CLEAR at airports now in the name of equity ? What’s next? They’ll ban people buying business class seats too? CA is full of pea brained politicians
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Imagine being an adult with all the opportunities in the world and still choosing a career of engagement farming. A grown ass man waking up every morning to say cringy things like “When I was a mid level PM at Google I realized water is wet. Here is how 🧵”
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How it started vs How it’s going
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And FwIw I was living in the 16eme, in a large gorgeous apartment paid for by my employer at the time (Apple).
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Apoorva Govind
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Do the hedge fund people cringe while watching Billions as much as we cringe when we watch Silicon Valley?
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The crazy thing about immigrating from a country like India is that — The culture is so rich, the history is so long, and the spiritual/intellectual references are enough to fill a lifetime. Then you move You start from scratch. You are now in the world of the Iliad & Odyssey.
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I've finally narrowed in on the top 3 skills of a killer early-stage startup engineer: 1. Ships quickly 2. Obsessed with user experience 3. Owner mentality (vs Renter mentality) Everything else can be acquired on the job. These three however should be the core of their being
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Girls in tech literally want just one thing. To succeed
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What drives me absolutely crazy about leftist politics is that it takes away hope. These extremely privileged people believe that many who are underprivileged can't make it in the world because the system is inherently broken. When I was a 15yr old angsty teenager who was
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I wish basic economics was taught in public schools. Ride-share companies are not just lounging on a billion bucks. If some operating in a city becomes unprofitable, they will, in fact, choose to leave. So happy companies are not playing ball anymore.
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Robin4mpls
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Like hundreds of Lyft users, I received an email today that they’re leaving Mpls on May 1st. What they fail to mention is that they’re choosing to “leave” because they simply do not want to pay their drivers, a largely Black & immigrant workforce, our minimum wage of $15/hr.
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Building a startup has softened me as a person. I don’t get easily frustrated anymore and I’m a lot more patient towards people
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Apoorva Govind
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This guy in his early 20s called me ma'am during the interview. I am done. Taking an L on today.
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The Western society is so individualist that once the novelty effect wears off, it can be very isolating. You have to actively work on cultivating relationships. The hack that seems to work is immigrating as students. For that alone an expensive degree is worth it for immigrants
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Someone please send Jensen my apology. Seems like the cancellationists are coming out of the woodwork. At least won’t be on my watch. I have absolutely nothing but awesome things to say about him.
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When you see barbarian murderers parading around dead bodies of innocent women & kids as if it’s some sort of manly triumph and your reaction isn’t vile disgust, your values are trash. Your morality is in the gutter. The world is better off without you.
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My cancellable take is that certain values and cultures are objectively bad
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The denialism is crazy with Indians. We have bad diet & we don’t accept it. It’s somehow anti-Indian to criticize our diet! A typical Indian diet is full of carbs. The average person needs 50-175g of protein for a healthy diet. That’s a minimum of half a kilo of dal! Be serious
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Ankur Nagpal
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Something every South Asian needs to come to grip with: We need to work substantially harder on our metabolic health and exercise than other ethnicities Different studies show we're anywhere from 4 to 6 times more likely to suffer heart disease and Type 2 diabetes
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Apoorva Govind
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The SF mid-market area is already dead & small businesses are suffering because of everyone WFH. The city *needs* more people to be back in the offices. Instead of being grateful to @elonmusk for bringing people back to work, SF chooses performative signaling.
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Ted Goldberg
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BREAKING: San Francisco building inspectors are launching an investigation into reports Twitter has converted several office rooms at its headquarters into sleeping quarters for employees. 'We need to make sure the building is being used as intended' @sfdbi rep tells @KQEDnews
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A few thoughts on the “nomad” working lifestyle. Right off the bat, it sucks. You don’t have your usual setup, your large monitor, your perfect ergonomic chair etc with you. This makes staying productive really hard. There are some portable solutions but they’re not the same. 1/
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Between my pre-seed and seed rounds, I've pitched to maybe 100-200 VCs/Angels. Nearly 0 negative experiences. Not a lot of industries where this is realistic. I feel lucky to be in tech
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Silicon Valley in a nutshell 😂 (circa 2016)
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Ok, I am ashamed to admit that I still default to Google docs for any kind of free form writing. Notion feels too slow and clunky, despite its simple and beautiful UI. I think I might be a Toomer (Tech + boomer)
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Apoorva Govind
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It'll soon be exactly 10 years of me having lived in the US. It wouldn't be an exaggeration by any measure to say, it was the single most pivotal decision I've ever made in my life — 🧵 For context, I've lived in India, France, and the US
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Apoorva Govind
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Here is a big co secret (esp engineers whose main job is to code) — People will look at lines of code written to decide if you’re in or out. You can cry all about how it’s gameable, it’s not efficient etc. But that’s a metric all big cos use to assess poor performers.
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20-30 years ago, ppl who’d leave India wouldn’t even remotely consider going back. Over the last 5-7 years, that’s rapidly changing. Remote work is only going to intensify this. Why spend prime years here being lonely when you can live like a baller back home with equivalent $$
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There is a guy here at the coffee place coding. It’s taking me all of my willpower to not just walk up to him and let him know that we’re recruiting. He’s writing great clean code (in Java) and has had 2 black coffees already 🤩
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Apoorva Govind
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I am genuinely curious. Why are Indians on social media so defensive and resist criticism? The motive of criticism is to ultimately make things better. For, e.g: I could tweet that American cities suck. No one would bat an eyelid. What makes us Desis so fragile?
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After nearly a decade of crushing it for the big cos, I have decided on a new soul-crushing journey. Just quit my job at @UberEats to build my own Startup.
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@proetrie She’s just not into him. It’s painfully obvious. Keeping him as a backup while some other “more interesting” guy shows up. Poor guy is being naive.
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When I meet founders from India, I realize how good founders have it in the US. The Indian VCs are too risk averse & push founders into chasing the “formulaic” industries instead of trying risky new arenas. It really sucks for founders trying to build products in untested waters.
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Anecdotally, my ride or die besties are all from my grad school days. All my nearest and dearest here in SF are immigrants like me. I’m yet to build deep relationships with local Americans. I find their exterior welcoming, but overall harder to become deep friends with 🤷🏽‍♀️
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Apoorva Govind
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I am so excited to tell the world about what we've been working on for the last few months. World, say hello to @BesteverAI — GenAI tool for image & video ads. The easiest way to generate creatives for campaigns is here.
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Apoorva Govind
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@Armchaircriteck The bar for hiring now is going to be super high moving forward. Just knowing how to code won't be sufficient. New grads should learn to be product-minded & have good out-of-the-box problem-solving skills. Employers won't suffer mediocre talent with bad attitude anymore.
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Apoorva Govind
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@growing_daniel I mean tbh, if you go to India, by default swastika is not associated with Nazis
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Apoorva Govind
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@BritMartinez You can turn this into this, though.
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On top of that, the immigration policies are insanely hard to navigate. I almost left earlier this year and I fuckin love this country. If the US doesn’t fix its immigration policies, it’s unlikely to stay the top destination. The allure is fading with every passing year.
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Apoorva Govind
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The weird thing about the West (to me) is how little friends and family tell you to suck it up and deal with it. In India whenever I’d complain about stupid first-world shit, people would tell me to suck it up. Great sagely advice 9/10 times
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Unpopular startup opinion: "balance" is just not a thing if you're in the pursuit of hard problems. You just can't solve a tough challenge by working on it 9-5. You have to obsess over it every waking hour to have a chance of success. The sooner we accept this truth, the better
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Just now, some lowlife on drugs walked into Walgreens behind me. I think he was chasing me. My heart was racing as I entered the store & nearly threw myself at the security guy. SF needs major fixing if you want women to live freely here.
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Apoorva Govind
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Next time in India, my parents will probably lament about how I threw away my chance at becoming the CEO of Uber.
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Let’s be real here. The Masters are for foreign students to get a foot into this country & become eligible to work. If tomorrow there was a visa that allowed talented people to immigrate & work here without the crazy restrictions, the big universities would go broke overnight.
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masters degrees have been red flags for a long time now even at top 10 schools this is not new if you have ever hired
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Apoorva Govind
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@mayankltgm Multicultural societies work with cultures that are ideologically equal.
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Apoorva Govind
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Holy shit! What’s going on in SF? The common areas of the WeWork my office is in has been crowded AF for the last 2 weeks. Seems like there is some new energy in town.
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Apoorva Govind
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PSA to women who live by themselves: Please keep your dead bolt locked at all times in your apartment. I had a terrifying experience just this morning. I recently moved & bought a new mattress. I scheduled an mattress pick up service. The guy missed his pick up appointment twice!
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Apoorva Govind
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This is such a new low, even for SF. Will make sure never to give my business to this shitty discriminatory restaurant Hilda and Jesse
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BREAKING: Restaurant in SF refuses service to two SFPD officers yesterday 12/3, stating their presence made staff (and perhaps guests) uncomfortable. Hilda and Jesse on Union St. Here’s their response: 👇
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Took my bestie (also a Desi girl) for some wine tasting tonight. After some “tasting” we got onto the topic of relationships. She said — these Western therapists have the tendency to look at an ideal outcome & say — You deserve better, leave him. But apparently they don’t
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@rustamrocks Yeah. Most people who fetishize living there have mostly visited it as tourists. The bureaucracy there is absolutely maddening. The only time I felt I was about to get raped was there. SF has the drug crazy. Paris has the ideological crazies (TBF I was there in 2015 during the
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My theory: Indians optimize for stability & try to find partners who can provide for each other. Love comes after. In the West, people optimize for intellectual & romantic love first which may or may not translate into stability.Kids are a big deal then cuz they increase friction
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I remember this exchange that happened on a Slack channel @ my previous employer. A young PM was complaining that a coworker hit on her. He apparently singled her out to say “Good morning” when they were waiting for a meeting room to free up. She was distressed by this. This
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Apoorva Govind
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For me, it was a conscious choice from an ideological perspective to be here. My roots are not too deep back in India, Intellectually I feel more at ease here. I’ve built my posse here over the last decade. This is my home now and I fucking love it. But never say never 🤷🏽‍♀️ /end
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Apoorva Govind
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Ok so for all my H1b engineers who feel stifled by their visa status from pursuing entrepreneurial dreams, here are a few tips O1s are achievable. Work on it with an immigration lawyer. It's a process (that might take up to a year) but the freedom is worth it.
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One thing that’s very obvious to me is that if you live in civilized society with no real problems long enough, you lose your sense of purpose and identity. To struggle is to have identity. No wonder everyone in the West love to be victims.
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Problem with Europe is not talent. They have top notch talent comparable to SF-Bay Area. Their problem is really their social mentality. They live under constant fear of the tech boogeyman instead of embracing the brave new world. It’s the cowardice that’s off-putting.
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Turns out it was actually COVID. Lmao. FML
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Talking about AI makes my heart race
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See this is some entitled bullshit. Why do some people (usually in the wealthy Western societies) feel like they’re entitled to decide how much wealth others are allowed to have?
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Lee Kuan Yew talks about why they treat drug dealers with such disdain & brutality. It's because, as a society, they have a moral baseline for what's unacceptable. If a drug-addicted kid robs their parents & buys drugs, that's morally unacceptable for their society
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@paulg As someone that spends a good amount of time on SF Twitter criticizing the politics here, I’d agree with this. However, what needs to be fixed needs to be fundamentally compatible with the overarching principles of the society. Eg: It would be absolutely stupid to go to China &
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In SF, my apartment is small. For the longest time, I thought moving to a bigger place would do the trick. Here in NYC I have a massive space to myself. Realized the sq footage doesn’t make the difference. It’s the mental separation of home & work that matters.
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If I ever have kids, I might have to double down on Desi cultural values & the identity. It seems like every crisis — social, economical & political is all downstream of identity & morality crisis that this generation faces.
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It’s a lesson to every serious founder not to let any wokesters anywhere near pivotal positions that can make or break the company,
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@micsolana Man, this obsession to have women randomly for the sake of having women is so insulting.
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Apoorva Govind
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So Apple basically screwed over Shopify, SMB owners & sealed the monopoly of Amazon. As an Apple customer, does it mean I’ll not see ads anymore? No! Just means I’m seeing shittier ads. Apple is building their own ad system but that’ll probably take years to get as good as FB
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While you were using your ML models as a hotdog or not-hotdog engine, fighting your woke warriors about "AI safety and ethics," OpenAI is building access to AI infrastructure. So yeah, STFU and cope quietly if you have to. Your tech while amazing is irrelevant to the rest of us
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After screaming defund the police for 2yrs, suddenly @HillaryRonen feels betrayed when the cops won’t show up in the Mission. It’s as if you play stupid games, you’ll win stupid prizes!
@lwoodhouse
Leighton 明 Woodhouse
1 year
Life comes at you fast.
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@Appyg99
Apoorva Govind
3 years
I never realized how fragile the engineer ego is until I became a founder. I met someone at a VC thing today. They introduced themselves as “I write code”. Ok bruh. So do I. It’s like saying I speak English. 🙄 Get a personality
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@Appyg99
Apoorva Govind
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A big reason why a lot of Indians pursue grad school in the US is to have a chance to catch up to their more rigorous peers in the US. The avg CS education in India is absolutely trash. If you succeed at being a good SW engineer, it’s despite the system. Not because of the system
@cremieuxrecueil
Crémieux
1 year
Many have thought they'd easily outsource software engineering to some of the more advanced parts of the developing world. These authors showed that might not be so easy: the computer science skills of American CS students greatly outpace Indian, Chinese, and Russian ones.
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@Appyg99
Apoorva Govind
2 years
Makes Elizabeth Holmes seem like a saint. She at least was trying to solve an actual hard problem.
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@Appyg99
Apoorva Govind
3 years
Today marks exactly 4 months since I started working full time on my Startup. Feels like a blink. We've launched one product and we're about to launch another. What an absolute roller coaster! Wouldn't give this up for anything in the world.
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@Appyg99
Apoorva Govind
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Taiwanese men have both the drip AND the personality to pull it off. Something about overcoming adversity is so hot.
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