❀ alliecat ❀ @silken_roses Twitter profile

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@silken_roses

11 months

i feel like people sometimes insult obviously attractive individuals because in their mind they're being progressive by challenging beauty norms but this body type is honestly a lot more realistic & feasible than the ultra-hourglass kim k bbl body type that gets promoted nowadays

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@silken_roses

7 months

the boys behind me in grade 9 french class used to do this with erasers and pencils. kinda insane how normalized it is to disrespect women's bodies and boundaries in that way

Out of Context Human Race

@NoContextHumans

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@silken_roses

1 year

men who don't dote on their pregnant wives should be prepared to have an extremely difficult child. that fetus is going to be bathed in stress hormones daily and it will absolutely affect it. the mother's peace is the baby's peace, and her stress is the baby's too.

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@silken_roses

8 months

you see this and think its crushing to the man, i see this and wonder why she has to prostitute herself to get her partner to do his fair share of the parenting and housework

Rothmus 🏴

@Rothmus

8 months

Look into his eyes. This man is dead inside.

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@silken_roses

1 year

the problem is she doesn't play into the innocent virgin maiden archetype. there are men who absolutely do fetishize virginity, but it isn't merely the virginity itself but the naivete, youth, passivity, and potential for being groomed

Anna Komnene ☩❤️‍🔥

@Baezantium

1 year

It's over for femcels

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1 year

how is this funny?

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@InternetH0F

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@silken_roses

7 months

the solution is clear

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@Rich_Cooper

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@silken_roses

3 months

*sees an intelligent woman not explicitly catering to hyperfeminine stereotypes* "omg she's just like a man pretending to be a woman"

Amelia™

@RealiaAmelia

3 months

she’s so tgirl coded

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@silken_roses

10 months

not having sex without deep love and commitment is a great idea until you're suddenly still a virgin in your late 20s and find yourself having to seriously contemplate whether casual sex is worse than eternal celibacy

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@silken_roses

11 months

like i actively miss the days when these were the female bodies that were promoted as ideal

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@silken_roses

7 months

its funny when i see posts talking about how modern women have no modesty and dress in 'lingerie' to go to the gym meanwhile the 80s be like

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@silken_roses

9 months

this also explains precisely why women generally avoid giving men compliments lol

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@silken_roses

7 months

meanwhile the 'joke' is just gross porn

Cliff Bleszinski

@therealcliffyb

7 months

I swear to God these AI generated fake Pixar movies are going to give me an aneurism from laughing so hard.

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@silken_roses

5 months

so when an incel is bitter and angry towards all women because some girls hurt his feelings when he was 12 its 'logically reacting' but women fearing men due to actual crime stats is emotionalism

El Hamsterrifico

@Hamsterpilled_

5 months

@lestonedpom @silken_roses Women are more emotionally intelligent than men and that’s a fight men are never going to win. On the flip side, men are more intellectually developed and will always try to reasons things out, so they react logically and see women as a threat. We’re all apes after all.

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@silken_roses

7 months

she's right. no woman wants a man that will gatekeep romance, affection, thoughtfulness, dedication behind your desirability. it means he will treat you badly once you stop being hot to him, which becomes risky as we age and/or our bodies change (especially from pregnancy)

Reddit Lies

@reddit_lies

7 months

Woman loses weight and gets healthy Husband gets more romantic with her "This made me hate him. Why couldn't he treat me like this when I was fat?!"

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@silken_roses

1 year

more evidence porn eroticizes & normalizes r*pe and society seems largely apathetic about it

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@silken_roses

9 months

both of these look like different variations of hell

Morpheus

@MorpheusCentral

9 months

MEN. Which life would you prefer? A or B?

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@silken_roses

8 days

most women just want a loving, intimate, joyful partnership with one person who is also their best friend. i don't agree whatsoever with the analysis that we are all secretly yearning to compartmentalize and divide ourselves between sex and love. ideally these bleed seamlessly

Joker

@BachelorJoker

9 days

This is every feminist woman's wet dream. 1 man for providing, other men for sex and having genetic children with. This dude's life would be my vision of hell.

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@silken_roses

8 months

all the guys replying 'based' not questioning how a 23 year old had 11 babies and how all of them (except one) look to be roughly the same age

Giga Based Dad

@GigaBasedDad

8 months

Unfathomably Based

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@silken_roses

9 months

its almost like women generally do not pose any real physical threat to men and this alters the nature of the exchange entirely

shoe

@shoe0nhead

9 months

how would you men like it if the roles were reversed huh??? not so great is it

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@silken_roses

3 months

this is actually the highest tier of pickmeism. same thing that drives some women to fawn over serial killers. they want to believe an extremely sick and evil man would be so taken with them that he would somehow find softness and love just for her

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@0xAlaric

3 months

The zoomers are doing alright

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@silken_roses

7 months

struggling to find the words to articulate how profoundly sad and unerotic this is. how its a symptom of pornrot. how viewing women as objects makes sex less enjoyable. how it leads to sexual dysfunction. how its largely responsible for sex repulsion and low libido in women...

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@silken_roses

7 months

@avantgardetaste i dont

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@silken_roses

1 year

so basically, being a female virgin who is older, self-assured, modded (piercings, tattoos, dyed hair), successful, sexually empowered, is generally a handicap. the types of guys you attract will probably see the virginity as being a red flag, or at least requiring explanation

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@silken_roses

1 year

i say this as a child of a stressful pregnancy... born premature, lifetime anxiety problems (since infancy, severe ocd by age 8), highly fussy baby (feeding issues, wouldn't sleep)... you don't want that

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@silken_roses

3 months

its extremely weird and frankly pedophilic that they stigmatize vulvic features associated with pubertal maturation theres also zero advantage beyond cosmetic, meaning women are risking their sexual functioning for no other reason than to replicate a (prepubertal) aesthetic

ellie | fresh out the slammer

@radfemswiftie

3 years

i hope this isnt offensive for me to say, but does anyone else see the eerie little resemblance between labiaplasty and fgm? ik fgm is MUCH worse, but its interesting that even in our developed, “civilized” nations in the west, we also seem to be trying to turn vulvas into slits

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@silken_roses

6 months

i mean... yeah? you're never owed anyone's romantic or sexual interest. you could say the same with any trait. being attractive certainly won't hurt your chances but you're not entitled to a woman for being good looking either. same for being smart, funny, and, yes, nice too

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1 year

i really don't know how they explain this to themselves. like... you don't have a uterus and therefore can't experience uterine contractions... so what exactly is cramping?

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@silken_roses

7 months

having labia, for starters

Pastor Alex

@PastorAlexLove

7 months

Women, what is stopping you from dressing like this?

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@silken_roses

7 months

her feelings are valid. that is unbelievably insulting and she's right that its an immense sacrifice and act of love to give a man a child, and one that forever changes you. for him to then question the paternity, and without just cause, would feel like a slap in the face

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@silken_roses

7 months

girls just want a sweet, kind, loving man that will hunt her like prey in the bedroom

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@silken_roses

7 months

23?? i swear this supposed 'wall' drops every time its posted. soon its going to be 21, then 19, then... well, i think we can see where it's headed

Richard Cooper

@Rich_Cooper

7 months

The notion of women 'hitting the wall' needs clarifying. Women hit two walls in life. The first is when their looks go on the decline (around 23), and the second is when they are forced to accept this truth. Most women don't recognize the first event, the second event is so…

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@silken_roses

11 months

i think women generally desire children most when they feel supported, cared for, secure, and also when they exist in a culture where mothers are genuinely venerated and respected, as well as females, the feminine, & the female reproductive role in general

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@silken_roses

3 months

honestly just being a young female still figuring out her sexuality, her body, and then being exposed to porn culture and the fear that's the way the men & boys around you see you and want to treat you is enough to push young girls into thinking (or wishing) they were asexual

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5 months

my least favourite brand of "advice" to receive is that women should lower their standards and choose men they aren't actually attracted to. no wonder there are so many dull, passionless relationships and dead bedrooms out there when this is considered a viable solution

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@silken_roses

7 months

im actually genuinely curious what policies would supposedly make dating easier. do share

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@silken_roses

10 months

fr its almost like it isn't women posting pictures of themselves

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@silken_roses

1 year

bras were a mistake

⩘⩗ Smashley Simpson ⩘⩗

@BasicAshHoe

1 year

$7 million divorce settlement and this trashy hack can’t be assed to buy just ONE BRA.

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@silken_roses

11 months

there is no amount of money that could entice me to put myself through that

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@silken_roses

6 months

yes because abusers famously introduce themselves as abusers and show their volatile side from the get-go

Croccinator ♂️🇵🇸🟨

@TPAssailant

6 months

If women actually placed personality, as in having good ethics, above other factors, you would almost never see domestic violence. And yet, domestic violence is probably the most common violent crime committed in the US.

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@silken_roses

8 months

just a very gross and sad dynamic

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@silken_roses

7 months

this is a good example of sex differences because its both true that virtually every human that would do this is male and that most males would not do this

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@InsaneRealitys

7 months

Why women lives longer than men

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@silken_roses

7 months

of course half the comments on the article are blaming him because he was 'probably a liberal' feeling smug about a person's murder because they *possibly* didn't agree with your politics is genuinely evil

New York Post Metro

@nypmetro

7 months

Disturbing video shows moment beloved activist, poet is randomly stabbed to death in front of girlfriend on NYC street

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@silken_roses

7 months

[explicitly runs this idea into an ai generator] wowww WOWWW this is sick. i am so so sad. i cant believe what im seeing. modern women are so evil

AlphaFo𝕏

@Alphafox78

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This picture makes me so sad...

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@silken_roses

10 months

our society thinks men submitting to a boss that hates them is totally fine, but submitting to a loving wife is repulsive. theres something seriously wrong with our society

Trad West

@trad_west_

11 months

Our society thinks women submitting to a boss that hates them is totally fine, but submitting to a loving husband is repulsive. There's something seriously wrong with our society.

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@silken_roses

1 year

in the same way employers look at gaps in your resume and want an explanation why were you [single/unemployed] for so long? (what's wrong with you)

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@silken_roses

6 months

something i notice is incels don't seem to have much understanding of attractiveness beyond "ugly and deformed" and "supermodel". me saying i don't want someone im not attracted to doesn't mean i only want guys like the below example

Joshawoo

@x_Mastermind_Xx

6 months

@silken_roses @StrawsBB The men you "love and desire"

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@silken_roses

7 months

comments about as disgusting as one would expect

New York Post

@nypost

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Inside Los Angeles’ brazen sex market — where near-naked women sell themselves for as little as $40

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@silken_roses

6 months

"would you still love me if i was a worm" would he still love you if you were an emotionally complex and deeply flawed human being? will he still love you once the spring of youth fades? as strands of silver sprinkle your hair and wrinkles line your face?

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@silken_roses

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@frenlyfbi no

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@silken_roses

11 months

i really wish p*rn was not allowed on social media sites... it really shouldn't be allowed anywhere outside of actual p*rn sites (and even then, in an ideal world, it wouldn't exist at all) it's way too easy to accidentally come across it

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@silken_roses

7 months

????? this is literally just a thin, fit woman after she eats a small meal

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@silken_roses

8 months

every man that pushes "sex lowers a woman's value" rhetoric deserves a life of dull, dry, frigid sex they deserve a woman who so fully embraced their words that she can't have it without feeling guilt and anxiety. they deserve a dead bedroom. enjoy the fruits of your labor

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@silken_roses

7 months

all this when the orgasm gap is already in men's favor. i weep for womanity

IDONTMISS🫡

@luhlushhh

7 months

let me put yall on my bd said it’s deadly 😂😂😂 10/10

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@silken_roses

7 months

girl... i really hope for your sake you never have to face the reality of the shit you peddle. there is literally never an excuse for domestic violence short of self-defense. this "look what you made me do to you" rationalization is extremely common amongst abusers

H. Pearl Davis

@pearlythingz

7 months

Was he really abusive or did you bring abuse out of him?

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@silken_roses

8 months

in hindsight it really should not be at all surprising to learn that a woman who spends all her time talking about how inferior women are would have low self-esteem

El Tappo Guzman

@LizardKangz_95

8 months

Oof this was actually really sad… Wtf, why do I feel bad now—

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@silken_roses

11 months

@duck_buns its funny you say this because i literally just posted about the distinction between beauty and novelty, and how novelty is used in the modeling industry in particular great minds

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@silken_roses

8 months

conservatives are just as responsible for this as liberals. the movement is largely a reaction to rigid gender roles

Libs of TikTok

@libsoftiktok

8 months

The people responsible for this should be in prison

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@silken_roses

11 months

the language used is so infantile. it's intended to abase and humiliate. this is the opposite of female sexual empowerment, it's female sexual disempowerment and then fetishizing that state of subordination

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RIP feminism

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@silken_roses

8 months

people are looking because it's an unexpected way to dress. it sticks out. they'd also be looking at someone dressed in a furry suit

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@ElijahSchaffer

1 year

Modest clothing yet every guy looks. Is there something attractive to being classy that society has lost?

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@silken_roses

7 months

who is left meant to appeal to?

Eurasian Emperor

@empireenjoyer10

7 months

Every man and woman on Earth should be genetically engineered to look like this.

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@silken_roses

7 months

there are a lot of men not understanding why this is upsetting so let me put it this way: when a woman has your child she's proving she trusts you in the most intense way. she is trusting you not to abandon her, to keep loving her, to be there for her and the resulting child

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@silken_roses

7 months

her feelings are valid. that is unbelievably insulting and she's right that its an immense sacrifice and act of love to give a man a child, and one that forever changes you. for him to then question the paternity, and without just cause, would feel like a slap in the face

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@silken_roses

7 months

i need more of you need to understand that women have always worked. this idea that the average woman was a housewife who just cooked, cleaned, and played with her children all day and then feminism came along and changed things is not reflective of reality

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@silken_roses

7 months

do you think he would have this same attitude if you cheated? is forgiving his wife cheating one of the 'most manly' things a man can do?

Aya 🤍

@feminine_virtue

7 months

Forgiving your husband for cheating is one of the most powerful, brave, and womanly things to do - especially if there are kids in the picture. Choosing to put your own hurt aside, to forgive, and to move forward and heal... that's strength.

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@silken_roses

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what my man sees before bedtime. no t-shirts or shorts, sorry

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@femininaura

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What my man sees before bedtime. No t-shirts and shorts, sorry.

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16 days

the men who truly believe women are broadly attracted to abusive treatment should realize that love bombing wouldn't be such an effective manipulator strategy if that were true. abusers are generally successful at ensnaring victims precisely because they know how to be charming

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@silken_roses

1 year

it isn't very effective pro-trans propaganda, if its intended to be. it comes across as 'autistic male speaks socially frowned upon truth to everyone else's dismay'. he's not dumb, he just has no filter, meaning that he's saying what everyone else is thinking

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@ElijahSchaffer

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Transgender cult in TV

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@silken_roses

7 months

@mr_bones_wild as opposed to a thong one piece made of nylon be real

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@silken_roses

3 months

i really dislike when people market themselves in a way that is indistinguishable from trying to sell a broodmare so many attributes listed and yet not a single one actually said anything about who you are as a thinking, feeling, conscious individual

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@silken_roses

7 months

you need to stop using the word modest when you mean feminine

Trad West

@trad_west_

7 months

Do you agree?!

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@silken_roses

11 months

@KitCatSaidYah np

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@silken_roses

1 year

"women are responsible for what men do"

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@silken_roses

7 months

feminine beauty is when copious amounts of plastic surgery literally every single thread and post from this account is about telling slim & small chested women they aren't desirable and pushing breast implants. the evil in the @ is correct

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@silken_roses

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the actual difference is dicaprio goes through women like chewing gum and drops them as soon as they age beyond 25 these two have been married since 2012 and have two children together. they actually seem to be in love

Josh Denny

@JoshDenny

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Everyone talking about Leonardo DiCaprio being a predator is a hypocrite. Aaron Taylor Johnson’s wife was a 42 year old director when she met him at 18 on a film where she was his boss. They married 3 years later. She a predator too? Or is this just “boss bitch” behavior?

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@silken_roses

6 months

hes actually a disgusting human and should be grateful women ever glance in his general direction

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@silken_roses

9 months

"women don't understand that a compliment is enough to make a guy obsessed with you!" no actually we do, and that's why we typically don't go around complimenting random men. because it's fairly impossible to give a compliment that will be read as anything other than interest

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@silken_roses

7 months

even if that were true (and im not convinced it is) what you need to understand is most women don't want that. we want intimacy within the context of a committed relationship with someone we love who reciprocates that love. theres a reason men way outnumber women on such apps-

Baron Joe von Zoidberg of Shropshire 🇬🇧

@DCardassia

7 months

@silken_roses I simply cannot believe any woman can make it to 20 and be a virgin. You could literally go on Tinder right now and have sex with a Chad way above your station tonight.

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@silken_roses

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@redmanmac10lfc no thanks

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@silken_roses

9 months

pedophilia is the inevitable conclusion to misogyny. they both exist along the same continuum, rooted in dehumanization, power hierarchy, and sexual domination as well as an inversion of natural roles

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@silken_roses

7 months

what "women's power"? most feminists can acknowledge men have a stark physical advantage over women, even in terms of reproduction and the weapon that is rape. that disparity in strength and capability for violence greatly informs women's global history of oppression

Mart

@Martposting

7 months

Interesting to see how women's power is flattened the moment a war breaks out

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@silken_roses

7 months

imagine falling in love with a man and he one day casually divulges that he went on a murdering spree of local animals as a kid

Alexander

@datepsych

7 months

Women telling stories about women killing animals: “I saw my grandmother prepare rabbits for food.” Men telling stories about killing animals: “I went on a neighborhood bird massacre at age 12.”

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@silken_roses

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@CanadaHawk i feel sick... what the fuck

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@silken_roses

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i dont want to have to choose between either of those options. they both suck im confident i wouldn't enjoy that type of intimacy without an actual relationship, but it also depresses me to think of not experiencing it *at all*, or not getting to experience it while still young

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@silken_roses

3 months

@lewis0701__ idk saying a smart woman is male-coded is pretty sexist and insulting actually

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@silken_roses

7 months

idk maybe not rape?

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@silken_roses

1 year

i get what you're saying, but i really hate the claim that vibrators/'toys' can replace real intimacy. if sex was just about achieving orgasm asap, then sure. but that view of sex completely overlooks true eroticism, sensuality, affection, and the pleasure of giving and sharing.

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@silken_roses

1 year

its wild how 6/7 years ago the alt-right was obsessed with p*zzagate and exposing elite pedophiles and now i see them claiming it's a feminist psy-op to have an issue with grown men sexually pursuing teenagers

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@silken_roses

8 months

if you think women generally have an easy time finding someone that loves them for who they are then ive got news for you...

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@silken_roses

8 months

im sure this information won't be misused by misogynists looking to downplay the harms (and reality) of rape

William Costello

@CostelloWilliam

8 months

Rape fantasies of female undergraduates (N = 355) 62% of women have had a rape fantasy. 14% of participants report that they had rape fantasies at least once a week.

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@silken_roses

11 months

ive sadly known guys exactly like this. it is tiresome and turns sexuality into something so unerotic, so unsexy, so unintimate. there is nothing sacred or beautiful about it, it becomes mere blasé compulsion.

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@_kindakelly

11 months

thinking abt this first date i almost went on a while ago. why did he say this. what was he hoping to achieve

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@silken_roses

7 months

this is beyond vile. take Christ out of your name

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@silken_roses

8 months

the messages targeted towards women are coming from other women. do you sincerely believe we're living in a world where the average man believes and claims all female bodies are beautiful? be serious. the closest comparison would be a man asking this to another man.

Involuntary Celibate (Incels.is)

@IncelsCo

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@silken_roses

1 year

they weren't the problem. the porn & sex industries are the problem, and how they negatively impact gender relations and healthy, love-based sexuality. the fact is if these girls didn't get into porn then different girls would have been used for the same degenerate scenes.

Your Typical Local Man

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@silken_roses

1 year

i love how every time a discussion like this pops up its always a comparison between women doing something relatively innocuous (posting selfies, reading romance books) and men consuming hard-core pornography, which not only affects themselves but fuels sex trafficking

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@silken_roses

7 months

only on twitter would people accuse me of lying about being a late 20s virgin most normal people irl consider this a red flag and see it as an unattractive quality. it's indicative i have not met normal social & relationship milestones

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@silken_roses

1 year

im so over the term 'dad bod'. all that's required to be a father is ejaculate, that doesn't explain any particular physique. at least 'mom bod' makes sense.

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@brandypapii

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Women only like dad bods when the dad bod has money smh

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@silken_roses

3 months

it would be cool if they would stop involving the rest of the world in their fetish for sexually humiliating her via public exposure

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@silken_roses

7 months

i will never understand how it could feel good or rewarding to buy your way into having sexual contact with another person who would never want you otherwise, or to buy your way into getting their attention/affection. how is that even slightly enjoyable?

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@silken_roses

7 months

idk i think its really beautiful what our bodies can do. it feels very intimate and special. i want to develop a better relationship with myself & my body and part of that is honoring the feminine and loving women as women- not as a comparison to men

dagoat👸🏻 .

@MalleRicann

7 months

periods, pregnancy, menopause... while men just.. live their lives? I don't get it

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@silken_roses

6 months

what is even the point of the bra then. the only reason i ever even wear a bra is explicitly so this doesn't happen

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