I hadn’t anticipated the overwhelming response & engagement to my tweet as
@ASTC108
left the NHS. I’m trying to reply to everyone but I’m sure there’s some I’m missing so here are 🧵’s answering the two main themes:
1. Why are we leaving?
2.Aussie system v NHS
Just taken a handover
- 8 waiting >20hrs
- 3 waiting >30 hrs
- 1 waiting >50yr hrs
This is no longer an A&E. We are a long stay ward BUT no patient washing facilities, no access to hot food, 3 toilets to 180 patients. This is inhumane & unsanitary.
#TheNHSisBroken
Ok ok… yesterday I was wrong TODAY is the busiest I’ve ever seen our ED…
…and today it’s my turn to done the fleece and treat in the back of ambulances.
The NHS is broken.
At the end of this A&E shift:
- I’ve seen >30 patients in the back of ambulances
- still 15 patients outside
- longest wait outside currently 6hrs
- longest wait for a bed from inside >30hrs
- patients waiting in ED for bed right now >80
Hospital canteen food in Australia is on an entirely different level.
It makes a huge difference to staff moral and health.
Rare seared tuna, purple potatoes, edamame, cauliflower.
This is by no means the fault of the trust or our department.
Emergency departments are simply not designed to have patients longer than the original 4hr target and therefore have no long term care facilities.
Virtual interviews can show us not only the candidate but a window into their house and background. It strikes me this could be introducing a new aspect of unconscious bias.
A senior colleague said today:
‘’I’ve only heard positive comments about junior docs attitudes & mucking in...I hope on the other side this puts to bed the “trainees were different in my day” nonsense.’’
Stay strong
#juniordoctors
your efforts aren’t going unnoticed.
@RegHumber
@ASTC108
I wouldn’t come back if the only thing that changed was the pay. The current system lacks staffing, resources and funding leaving doctors stretched beyond safe limits without equipment, time or space to safely treat patients. Change those things as well and we’d consider it
2/2
We chose the later because we love our jobs, we are proud of the work we do and we genuinely want to help others. But we aren’t martyrs and we want and deserve to also be happy, healthy and appreciated. (5/5)
@RegHumber
@ASTC108
Australia has a mixed public and private healthcare system where A&E care is public and free at the point of access like in the NHS.
1/2
Why are
@ASTC108
and I leaving the NHS?
We are both Emergency Medicine registrars with 9years of NHS service each under our belts since qualifying and have also both been involved through numerous roles in trying to improve the NHS for staff and patients. (1/5)
@G_Runner
Ultimately - We need the resource funding and capacity in social, primary and secondary care to move patients through the system as it has been designed and the system our staff have been trained for. That needs proper per capita funding akin to our peer countries.
At risk of sounding like an echo…today is the busiest I’ve ever seen my ED.
We never hold ambulances outside but today we’ve even run out of corridor space and resus is at double capacity so even resus patients are waiting in ambulances outside.
How does this end?!
@Conservatives
3️⃣ Today’s offer is final.
There will be no more talks on pay.
This country will not be bullied into higher taxes or higher borrowing to fund unrealistic pay demands, risking higher inflation.
The culture & environment of the NHS is breaking our friends & colleagues and almost broke us. We’ve spent too long treating patients on corridors with staff in tears every shift. At some point you have to cut your losses, look after yourself and move on. (3/5)
@Manjit49
Investment in:
- staff
- infrastructure inc social care
- resources (the NHS major trauma centre A&E I work in runs out of patient monitoring on a daily basis!!)
- force multiplying health technology to allow best use of the staff we already have ie wearable tech for obs
Our choices were either to stay in the U.K. but leave medicine altogether for a new career or keep using our life saving skills as doctors but somewhere outside the U.K. that wouldnt be damaging to our own health and family life. (4/5)
Had been feeling a bit sad about being without the dogs for four months whilst we emigrate 🇦🇺…
…today the spaniel rolled herself in the decomposing corpse of a badger and the Labrador punched me in the eye.
Four months dog free suddenly doesn’t sound so bad after all!
We have stuck it out in the NHS for as long as we could whilst trying to create the changes that would have made it possible to stay. But week by week the system gets more overloaded, funding decreases, staff leave and patient care declines. (2/5)
@MaryAli2308
Definitely a part of the problem, but not entirely at fault. We have fewer doctors (and other staff) and hospital beds per 1,000 population than most other European countries and spend far less on health care in relation too.
Aussie system v NHS a 🧵
@ASTC108
and I will be working in
@AlfredHealth
a public A&E in Melbourne where care is free at point of access, like the NHS and the majority of Aussie A&Es. (1/7)
And yet >70% of medical school students, with no hope of a 9-5pm routine or the salary for ‘the good life’, are female.
Csn i suggest resisting tweets without factual basis as your 2023 resolution?
@LiamThorpECHO
Modern girls these days are not attracted to nursing , they love their social life, nail care, make-up, and expensive clothes , they love the good life and 9-5pm routine .
@RCEMpresident
I’d encourage the U.K. system to evolve towards a similar healthcare model to Australia, and other countries with split funding models (Germany, Denmark etc). (7/7)
Huge thank you to
@EMASNHSTrust
and all other crews outside A&E today - the warm welcomes, smiles and hot drinks all incredibly appreciated especially when I know so many of you were stuck for hours without breaks or past the end of shifts.
Exciting things afoot for later in 2023!
Very excited to be joining the ED team
@AlfredHealth
in Australia from August, with
@ASTC108
by my side for our next adventure.
🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Things that made my weekend as ITU SHO better:
😷 Reliable PPE
🥧 24hr free food
🚗 free parking
🎁 treats from the public
But most importantly an amazing team from consultants, to nurses, porters, domestics, caterers & more.
Thank you
@Leic_hospital
#Convid19uk
@G_Runner
I’ll never argue against education. However that doesn’t cure the long waits my patients are having waiting to get a bed on the ward. They are all sick and require hospital admission, those who could have self treated or seen primary care don’t get admitted to a bed.
🇦🇺 Day 3:
✔️
@AlfredHealth
Induction
✔️ Emergency & Trauma Centre tour
✔️ ID badges
✔️ Mask fit testing
✔️ Lunch with new colleagues
Now time to relax in the
@FIFAWWC
Fan Zone with more UK-escapees to watch England 🏴(hopefully) get the better of Nigeria 🇳🇬 🤞🏻🤞🏻
We must stop accepting coming in early, staying late, personal time on audit, education etc. for free
Start&finish on time wherever able. Exception report everything else. Including portfolio in personal time
Then they will know just how much we already do for so little.
@RCEMpresident
estimates 23 000 deaths per year associated with crowding in U.K. emergency departments. That would be unacceptable in any country, let alone one which calls its health service ‘world leading’. (6/7)
The U.K. deserves a safe, quality, accessible health system that provides care where & when needed. Not 1-2 yr waiting lists, 12+ hr ED waits in corridors, overburdened GPs and psychiatric and social care that’s is inaccessible to most due to demand far exceeding capacity. (5/7)
#juniordoctors
we hear oriel has crashed this evening for many ST3 applications.
I have escalated this to
@NHS_HealthEdEng
and am hopeful they’ll fix it quickly & will push for extension of application window if not.
Please let me know of any other issues.
@BMA_JuniorDocs
Sending huge congratulations across the seas to my fellow students in
@TraumaMasters
class of 2023 for graduation today.
Thank you again to
@TraumaEMC
@karimbrohi
and all the incredible international faculty. I could not recommend this course more.
With you all in spirit!
@DrLisaBanh
Hi Lisa, I’m in Melbourne and here to help/listen. I’m currently on a night shift so will be awake all night so feel free to message at any time.
Is it just me who finds the title ‘Edutaining the Millenials’ patronising?
#JuniorDoctors
range from early 20s straight to uni ,to 40+ with families, mortgages and years of experience in life and work.
Treating us like children is disrespectful & unhelpful.
#DEMEC2019
Why are
@ASTC108
and I leaving the NHS?
We are both Emergency Medicine registrars with 9years of NHS service each under our belts since qualifying and have also both been involved through numerous roles in trying to improve the NHS for staff and patients. (1/5)
@MissingPetsGB
Thank you everyone for sharing and your kind words...our little wanderer reappeared this evening after a month missing. Best early Christmas present ever!
@i_Stiofan
Im afraid from the vantage point of this knackered and worn down A&E registrar the system is truly broken.
- elective waiting lists >2yrs in some cases
- ambulance waiting times >12hours
- patients waiting multiple days in ED
- pharmacies running short
This is not sustainable
@ClareGerada
As an EM physician I don’t have the option to bring people back for repeat BP or ‘follow up’ in any way. If I can’t ask the patients GP to follow up on the long term care of their patient then who should be doing it?
In the last 24hrs I’ve:
- failed an exam by 1.5marks
- been knocked off my paddle board by an aggressively low flying swan
- had a chimney fire in my office mid
#jdconf2021
No this isn’t a ‘which 1 of these 3 is a lie’...this is apparently my life 🤦🏼♀️
That’s enough universe!
In the U.K. a very small minority can afford private care, the provision of which is still very limited in coverage nationally and doesn’t include A&E. Everyone is therefore reliant on the over burdened and breaking NHS for atleast some part of their care. (4/7)
This allows those that can afford to to go elsewhere & reduces pressures on the public system so those who can’t afford private insurance can also benefit from timely and high quality care. (3/7)
Australia has a split funding model health system; private healthcare sits as an optional part of the system rather than as the sole mandatory healthcare provision (unlike USA). (2/7)
If you actually have ‘internal bleeding’ there is already a way to see a specialist without seeing your GP.
It’s called the Emergency Department.
The NHS stands no chance when those with the power to fix it have so little understanding of healthcare.
"One of things we've put forward.. self referrals so individuals dont have to go to a dr in order to get referred to specialist help.. if youve got internal bleeding & you just need a test there ought to be a way that doesn't involve going to see a GP"
Keir Starmer on
#BBCLauraK
Dear Trauma People of Twitter
Does anyone have contacts with these trauma networks and could put me in touch (for a research into Trauma Team composition)?
- Northern
- Cheshire & Mersey
- Greater Manchester
- N. Yorkshire
- S. Yorkshire
- NW London
Please and thank you!
@KAZZA499
@KeechA13
If our trust was an outlier then maybe - but in reality we have held out from ramping ambulances longer than most in the U.K.
Fault lies much higher and further away than my trust alone.
Slightly more touristic 🇦🇺 Day 2:
✔️ Sight seeing run in the Botanical Gardens
✔️ 1st Aussie flat white (with
@GemsRidley
😁)
✔️ Shopping & eating at South Melbourne Market 😍
✔️ 1st Aussie wine (Chardonnay obvs)
All with a side of life/pre-work admin.
It’s absolutely essential that we stop pushing ‘resilience’ training on clinicians which suggests blame for physician burnout lies with the individuals, but instead address the root systemic causes.
#EUSEM2018
#MentalHealthMatters
@G_Runner
In the acute phase instead of boarding all patients, and therefore concentrating risk, in the A&E where these facilities are lacking we may need to shift the burden of risk to wards that have the facilities for these patients. However they are also over stretched. Not an easy one
Turns out being an Emergency Registrar is perfect training for attending the Melbourne International Coffee Expo…
Five cups in and still no sign of the caffeine shakes ☕️ 💪🏻
‘But aortic dissection is rare isn’t it?!’
Deaths from AD are on a par with those from PE annually in the U.K. By falsely reassuring ourselves it’s uncommon we increase risk of missed diagnosis, death and mortality.
@AorticDissectCT
#EUSEM2022
The most welcoming, friendly, clean, foodie city! Three weeks after emigrating and from the U.K. and I never want to leave.
Oh and despite what some people say the weather is pretty great too.
#Melbourne
#Victoria
@silv24
Hi Natalie - BMA, along with NHSE/I, HEE etc are in the process of developing a digital staff passport which will address all these issues and digitally port your information from employer to employer. Discovery-phase testing is going well and it’s hoped to be rolled out soon!
🚨 ACCESS TO LTFT FOR ALL SPECIALITY TRAINEES 🚨
Following on from the successful pilots in EM, O&G and paeds.
Will be rolled out to all specialities in the next two years.
And
#Psych
trainees... you’re up next!!
#JuniorDoctor
#MedEd
#medtwitter
#flexibleworking
Huge news 👉
@BMA_JuniorDocs
are delighted that access to LTFT will finally become available to all specialties in the next two years, after close working between the committee and
@NHS_HealthEdEng
.
Aussie system v NHS a 🧵
@ASTC108
and I will be working in
@AlfredHealth
a public A&E in Melbourne where care is free at point of access, like the NHS and the majority of Aussie A&Es. (1/7)
@LaoCaiLarry1
@jfwduffield
@RegHumber
@ASTC108
You’ve obviously not read my tweets then because I have specifically said I urge the U.K. to adopt a similar system.
If you’re going to try and criticise then atleast read the tweets first, otherwise you’re just embarrassing yourself.
@ron__west
@ASTC108
‘Many globally famous’ is a bit of a stretch.
A couple of publicity hungry charlatans in reality - who cared more about getting their faces and names known and lining their pockets than sharing factually accurate and evidenced information to support global population health.
A lack of bruises doesn’t mean you aren’t being abused.
A lack of bruises doesn’t make this ‘just a difficult patch’.
A lack of bruises doesn’t mean people won’t believe you, won’t support you, won’t help you free yourself.
#EndViolenceAgainstWomen
#WhiteRibbonDay
Grateful to have this level of PPE.
It’s astounding so many of my colleagues accross the U.K. don’t even have reliable access to paper face masks.
#Convid19uk
#juniordoctors
#MedTwitter
@DoctaQuokka
@ASTC108
Registrars. We will be provisionally registered with
@Ahpra
as IMGs for the first year so not in formal training but plan on applying for
@acemonline
training numbers once we are fully registered after 12months
Sure I can often feel certain of a diagnosis in ED, but not always. And esp. not always in 4hrs, while seeing 5 other patients, in an overflowing department with limited resources.
Admitting uncertainty should be encouraged.
#DEMEC2019
#medtwitter
#MedEd
@RCEMpresident
I’d encourage the U.K. system to evolve towards a similar healthcare model to Australia, and other countries with split funding models (Germany, Denmark etc). (7/7)
@DrBenLovell
@EMTAcommittee
1. Rotas built around requests rather than trainees forced to fit around ‘off the shelf’ templates.
2. Regular scheduled teaching
3. Consultants encouraging and enforcing breaks
4. Consultants & seniors who care about you as a person, send people home when looking sick etc.