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Twitter debate abt who can walk on grass at Cambridge colleges reminds me of the apocryphal tale of the Cambridge student who demanded ale during an exam, his right by ancient law, was given it grudgingly, then later got a retaliatory fine for not having worn a sword to the exam
@billybragg
When I asked you whether you counted those making threats of violence and death against JK Rowling and others as your allies, you said you repudiated them, and seemed to think that was sufficient. So the same should apply to any pro-choice feminist who repudiates DeSantis.
A small language annoyance I can't really hope to influence but anyway, fwiw, defining people as members of a set based on something biological – whatever else you may feel about that definition – isn't "reducing" them to their biology. That's just a misunderstanding of words.
@billybragg
@jk_rowling
@bindelj
@Womans_Place_UK
I just cannot see how the logic of this, as a criticism of Rowling, doesn't in turn implicate you in the many documented threats of violence and sexual assault made against her and the women you argue with on here. Isn't it both or neither?
If you disapprove of an Edinburgh fringe comedy act you should just not go, and believe me, I’ve been to some Edinburgh fringe comedy acts to which very nearly everyone on the planet had indeed decided not to go
Quick note that, while I totally understand that Twitter is where some people go to vent their despair at horrifying atrocities, Twitter’s not real life and nobody should be judged to be exuding a “deafening silence” if their responses don’t involve creating content for X Corp
@billybragg
@jk_rowling
@bindelj
@Womans_Place_UK
Your tweet suggests Rowling should rethink because of abhorrent people purporting to identify themselves "her side" of this matter. But there are plenty of documented violent threats made by people purporting to identify themselves with "your side".
@billybragg
@jk_rowling
@bindelj
@Womans_Place_UK
Personally I distrust the concept of "adjacency", but granting you that, again my question is: why, if this constitutes a grave point against Rowling's views, doesn't the same apply to your views, because of the many documented threats of violence made in the other direction?
@stephentotilo
It's interesting how your piece acknowledges that the existence of these comments is disputed, whereas here on Twitter you talk as if they had finally been located somewhere.
Thesis: on almost any topic, there should be lots of viewpoints you disagree with but don’t consider beyond the pale. If you divide everyone into “agrees with me” or “has unacceptable opinions”, something’s gone wrong at your end
Not to join the dunking (well, maybe) but I think at a certain level of an author’s popularity, claims like this become almost objectively wrong. You just cannot achieve that sort of resonance with that many people without touching something deeply true in the human experience
An underappreciated component of JK Rowling's badness as a writer is her utter lack of understanding of how systems and organizations work. That's not how schools work. That's not how government ministries work. That's not how newspapers work. That's not how sports work. That's…
"Reductionism" (in the case of biology) is when someone argues that *other* things about a person follow in an ironclad way from, or are identical with, their biology, eg their personality
@billybragg
@jk_rowling
@bindelj
@Womans_Place_UK
OK, so this is a bit different to your first tweet. You seem no longer to be saying that her views can't credibly be called progressive, but that you'd like her to repudiate neo-Nazis who show up at demos. (I'm pretty sure she does indeed repudiate neo-Nazis.)
Truly struck by the immediate near-total dominance of “if there’s no evidence of criminality, then it’s nobody else’s business” - this is very often not the go-to stance in cases that bear some comparison to this!
There’s a certain kind of 40+ commentator who is committed at all costs to the idea that The Kids Are Alright, and that any concerns are just oldsters panicking about nothing, as they've been doing since time immemorial
@HadleyFreeman
He has a lack of self-awareness that is not remotely fully captured by the concept of "lacking self-awareness". I'm not sure what it is. An extremely vigorous commitment to not allowing the tiniest possibility of self-awareness to creep in.
What if children aren’t the property of their parents *and also* aren’t best treated as fully independent and autonomous nodes in the consumer economy? Just thinking aloud here
@billybragg
@jk_rowling
@bindelj
@Womans_Place_UK
We're going round in circles. My original question was why this logic, if correct, didn't apply across the board, and therefore to you, in light of the many threats of violence made purportedly in alliance with your views. Anyway I'll stop now.
I would simply not build a personal brand around being right about things that everyone else was wrong about, so that when it became clear that in fact I was wrong about lots of it, I’d have no choice but to ever more frenetically denounce more and more experts and news outlets
@billybragg
@jk_rowling
@bindelj
@Womans_Place_UK
I think you are equivocating between "JKR must repudiate Nazis" and "the presence of Nazis means JKR's views must be at least a little bit Nazi". If the former, I bet she does, and the matter's settled. If the latter, see my earlier question to you. I'm really stopping now tho!
@rev_avocado
It is extremely strange to believe that it's societally important for female athletes to be able to participate in sport, but not societally important for them to have a fair chance of winning when they do so
Men will literally become prime minister, mislead parliament, get censured by the Privileges Committee then resign in ignominy and disgrace instead of going to therapy
@jamesrbuk
With full respect & truly zero desire to have a fight, it seems to me she’s clearly arguing you need a specific biology to be called a mother rather than a father, not that parenthood must be biological. Whatever you think abt that view it’s fully consistent with you being a dad.
@EmmaVigeland
Can you explain why refraining from implementing a radical overhaul of how sports works entails "structuring society around" the existing situation? Because it *looks* like a rhetorical trick to avoid having to make the case for that overhaul.
There's a cadre of writers who came of age snarking at their elders in posts at Gawker & elsewhere, and who can't shift out of that mode even though they're becoming the elders now, and it's a little excruciating to witness
I feel like
@elonmusk
deserves credit for what he's managed to do with Twitter, which is to make it MUCH less addictive than before. I doubt this was intentional! But it's pretty great, and maybe some of the negativity people are feeling is best understood as withdrawal symptoms.
I feel torn, because whatever makes people feel better if it doesn’t harm others is fine, of course, and yet — the *fact of the matter* is that she wasn’t heard. The sense of being heard was an illusion. And that has to count for something.
Similar to "both-sidesism", the pejorative criticism of "just asking questions" pinpointed something true for about five minutes, before being immediately co-opted by people who'd just rather not experience the discomfort of having to consider the questions.
An amazing thing to remember, when the work you're facing is challenging or anxiety-inducing, is that you *never* have to work on *anything* for more than five minutes, ever, for the whole of the rest of your life. Life is just five-minute periods, stacked end to end.
Many Europeans have a washing machine but no dryer. This isn’t just the poor parts - have seen this in Germany a fair bit too. They hang their clothes to dry, sometimes claim they like that better than a machine dryer.
But let’s be real - it’s overall because they have less…
@LauraPidcock
The remaining holdouts in the replies and QTs here, trying to thread the needle for exactly *when* a convicted kidnapper and attempted murderer deserves our backing for calling for violence against women, are some of the most revealing I’ve seen, even by standards of this topic
As others have noted (though it's not the purpose of this animation to show it) it's really amazing how aliens show such a consistent overwhelming preference for visiting US airspace more than that of other countries
Thinking of turning this into an account where I express "hard truths" (that are false) about men, women, dating, attractiveness, etc
Each point will be separated by a blank line
If you unfollow it'll be because you can't handle reality
I don't have a fourth point right now
"What explains your weird obsession with selling bread?" -- me in the local bakery, accidentally confusing the norms of Twitter with the norms of real life
I often have Luddite reactions to new tech and then a few months or years later, of course, I'm fully on board like everyone else. Odd exception: voice-activated tech. No Alexa etc in our house, ever, and I'm starting to think now there maybe never will be
The only thing that really ever gets in the way of me writing lots, at a good pace, and thus meeting deadlines - all while enjoying the process - is me feeling that it’s very important that I write lots, at a good pace, and meet my deadlines
@PeterTatchell
I don’t have a gender identity as far as I’m aware, and surely it’s a bit weird to call something an identity if the person who supposedly has it isn’t aware of it. I’m male, but that’s just knowledge about my body, like knowing I’m bald and six feet tall.
It really says something about corporate bloat that Elon Musk fired so many Twitter staff, and yet site still works fine, apart from the bit where you can’t tweet or read other people’s tweets
@robertwrighter
I think there’s much to what you say, but an argumentative response might be — didn’t Judith Miller’s Iraq stories always say “according to admin officials”, thus were technically true? Yet we all know how they were taken. (Not a fast-breaking story in the same way, I suppose)
Mark Twain's apology for a delayed reply to a message remains unrivaled: “I am a long time answering your letter, my dear Miss Harriet, but then you must remember that it is an equally long time since I received it—so that makes us even, & nobody to blame on either side.”
“The power of story” in nonfiction, public speaking etc, is generally way overrated. There’s a huge amount to be said for just telling me how things are. With examples and anecdotes, sure. But just explain the thing you want to explain!
I'm trying to find a funny tweet from ages ago saying, roughly, "every plan I make for personal change involves waking up tomorrow with more self-discipline than I've ever demonstrated at any point in my life to date" – any pointers??
Impatient jerk overtook me dangerously on a country lane, then the next car, then finally zoomed off down an even smaller road to attempt a shortcut around the next two cars, but ended up behind me again. Important to savor life’s small pleasures
Call me a prude, but I was a little surprised when the cosy podcast about the Moomins that me and the 6yo were listening to in the car featured an interviewee praising the Snorkmaiden as someone who “doesn’t give a fuck”
“Other people won’t tell you this” is a central plank of burbling-nonsense-for-attention Twitter. It’s convenient, because it implies people are scared of speaking the truth, when in fact another reason people don’t tell you things is when they’re bollocks.
A pitfall of being pretty smart in intellectual terms (I’m not talking about myself, but also not not talking about myself)- the ability to come up with a solid-seeming reason for basically any course of action you in fact want to take for other, emotional, unarticulated reasons
None of the relevant people will take any notice of this, but the endorphin-surge they seem to experience when publicly condemning their opponents as fascists, Nazi-adjacent, etc, seems like solid evidence those people are not those things. The thrill of the insult rests on it.
I remain very far from convinced the problem here isn't how we talk about it, rather than what we see.
Still, as a 4 (if forced to choose a number) I always end up pleading with 1s: "But do you REALLY MEAN like there's an ACTUAL PHOTOGRAPH when you shut your eyes??"
It's baffling to me that some of y'all see stuff in your mind. You SEE it? The way your eyes see? I always thought "visualize" meant thinking of the words/ideas/feelings associated with a thing, not actual visuals.
I am such a total 5 on this scale I didn't know 1-4 existed.
Belatedly just want to point out that if you think journalists concoct allegations against people because they want to eliminate them as competition for audience, you don't understand anything about how journalism works. That's maybe OK! But still – you don't.
God knows we over-40s engage in all sorts of mental contortions to feel that we’re not part of the ageing cohort! But… that's all this is, I think. It's a stance adopted prior to any data about what's actually going on.
If you’re organizing a Halloween event, note that the world “spooktacular” sounds a lot like “spectacular”, but cleverly incorporates the theme of ghosts
@lottelydia
Interesting – this implies you'd take a different view of the disruption if Stock didn't have lots of speaking invitations. Can that be right? It seems incoherent to me.
Wow I love the phrase “beating a drum in search of a fugitive” (attributed to Zhuangzi) to describe the self-defeating act of trying to do things — be happy, transcend the ego, etc — where the trying is what makes it impossible to succeed
We shd retire this poor argument regardless of whether you think these protests are good or bad! Throwing confetti/a milkshake entails getting close enough that you cd have done more harm; that's a big part of why it instils fear/outrage. Worth grasping, whatever side you're on.
@jessesingal
Again and again, it's this bludgeoning form of unserious "argument" that proceeds as if it's self-evident and agreed by all that the coverage is misleading and dangerous, and that what's really being disputed is… whether it's good or bad to run misleading and dangerous articles
Just to clarify – I don't "not have a blue check", I have a clear check. It's the top level, for leading cultural figures only. Completely transparent but I promise you it's there.
If you’re confused by the clocks changing, just remember it’s now an hour earlier than your body clock thinks, meaning that the real time is one hour later than the time it would have been at this time yesterday, if it was this time, which it isn’t because it’s an hour later
It’s happened to me more than once at an event that someone has thanked me for some bit of advice I’ve written about, or quoted, and it’s all his partner can do to remain cheery while explaining that that’s exactly what she’s been saying for years
Tfw you ignore a recurring piece of advice for 15 years, build a whole personality structure around that defiance, and when the right person gives it at the right time you're suddenly like "ahh yea I guess you're right, it's time."
@VictoriaPeckham
@JolyonMaugham
I'd be happy to act as some sort of an intermiedi-- oh no, sorry, he blocked me too, when I pointed out that he was wrong to say that one is "logically forced to accept the BBC is transphobic" because of an *imaginary, explicitly hypothetical story that he made up in his head*
It's ironic when you think about it that such a huge proportion of popular psychological commentary about dealing with narcissism – Youtube videos, Twitter threads, etc – is about dealing with narcissism in other people
So many people constantly looking for a way to define some other people as at least just a *bit* less human than them, yet still be able to feel good about themselves. It seems such a universal that I suppose I am obliged to wonder if I do it too
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@HarryStopes
@billybragg
Right, but my question is why this should count against feminists who explicitly repudiate any such commitment to traditional gender roles. Their objection to the idea of gender identity has a completely different basis as I understand it.
Oh the password I chose for a thing I don't even want to create an account for, and won't be using after today, and doesn't involve entering payment details is *too weak* is it??? I see.
Call me naive, but I don’t believe more than about 5% of the people on here whose words seem to suggest that they value some human lives more than others would come across that way if you talked with them for an hour or so over a meal
@billybragg
Supposing we grant the claim, could you go on to explain its relevance for gender identity? I've generally understood the argument to be that one's gender identity *isn't* tied to one's biology, contrary to the implication here.
It is notable how, when confidently made factual claims get seriously undermined, a lot of people seem to take that as strong evidence for the truth of the opposite claim, instead of strong evidence that you can’t trust claims you encounter on here
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@hogotheforsaken
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@AyoCaesar
@novaramedia
Easy to feel embattled in these Twitter disputes, I imagine, but I hope you will assign a researcher not heavily invested in this issue to spend a couple of hours looking into the *actual* distribution of physical violence & violent threats in this debate, just for your own info.
This BigThink video wherein Judith Butler "explains gender theory" is fascinating, partly because the format puts quite a bit of pressure on her preference for avoiding making commitments to arguments, and there's nowhere to hide in verbosity
@ChrisLutton92
Yeah, there's an interesting ambiguity to the word "define" here, isn't there, or maybe a formal and an informal usage? It is accurate to define me as being British, but being British doesn't define me
Ryanair charging these fees; Ryanair making a brand out of contempt for customers; all the dead-souled people in the QTs and replies getting sweatily excited to say “rules are rules”: it’s everything worth opposing about the trajectory of modern society in one Twitter incident!
@FeministRoar
Right that makes sense. I guess it is also just the tendency to see "the other side" as one big undifferentiated mass, over there, while "my side" includes only the people I want it to.
If rightwing Youtube personality "Sargon of Akkad" is repulsed by the mores of young liberal women, while young liberal women would never in a million years agree to date rightwing Youtube personality "Sargon of Akkad", then I feel like there isn't a huge problem here necessarily
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@oliverburkeman
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Well this was pretty excellent to see! “It was not just the stacking up of time, but the pivot Chalamet felt he was riding from one phase of his life and career to another. He brought up the recent bestseller Four Thousand Weeks…”
@francesweetman
I read it and laughed at the idea of lecturing an Observer journalist about the Observer, and then I read it again and realized the lecture was incorrect as a response to the tweet even if she hadn’t been. Amazing