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@Rianne_Vogels

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Views my own, all’s not an endorsement, etc. You probably don’t want me to go through these things in open court, again.

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Joined November 2011
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@Rianne_Vogels
Rianne Vogels
1 year
✨ The judgment is now final. I won on all points. There will be no appeal We shouldn’t need the legal system to confirm our democratic rights to discuss sex-based rights or medical ethics, but here we are. My case has already changed the conversation in Norway Speak freely! ✨
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Rianne Vogels
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I won! ✨ I took my employer #Papillon to court, after they fired me for questioning societal shifts in how sex and gender are understood, medicated and regulated. Legal team @BirtheEriksen1 @birtar @tilnils #WORIADS #Forstater
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I won! ✨ I took my employer #Papillon to court, after they fired me for questioning societal shifts in how sex and gender are understood, medicated and regulated. Legal team @BirtheEriksen1 @birtar @tilnils #WORIADS #Forstater
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I was turned away from the women’s rights march today in Bergen. My banner says: “Snakk sant om kjønn”, i.e. “Speak truthfully about sex/gender”. A second banner was also turned away: “we support JK Rowling”. We were made to walk behind the police car that followed the march.
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“We support JK Rowling” was deemed an unacceptable banner in the women’s rights march in Bergen, Norway, today.
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@Rianne_Vogels
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@HustleAndFro_ I once had a dude hang up on me because he called to speak to *mister* Rianne Vogels, startup CEO, and I made the wild claim that this is she.
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#FirstDoNoHarm conference. "For children, I would always advise against social transition" - Professor Riittakerttu Kaltiala (Finland)
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@Rianne_Vogels
Rianne Vogels
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This week, Norwegian politicians plan to vote through a bill where paediatric therapists risk up to 6 years in prison if they critically explore any child’s self-diagnosis as trans. @Jebadoo2 + @andrewdoyle_com discuss the issue in the vid below. The bill:
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'They want to expose paediatricians to the risk of prosecution when they're treating children presenting with gender incongruence.' Dennis Kavanagh discusses reports Rishi Sunak is set to roll back on plans for a ban on LGBT+ conversion therapy. @Jebadoo2 | @AndrewDoyle_Com
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Professor Dahlgren, pediatric endocrinologist: Instead of simplifying legal & medical sex changes, invest in neuropsychiatric evaluations and in strengthening a child's identity, rather than confirming thoughts of having been "born in the wrong body" 🧵
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@MrMarkRBulger Several women came over to show agreement or ask questions. Many more women and men sent a smile or a nod. Several men showed a middle finger. One man carried a FUCK TERFS sign. Some twenty somethings bellowed “trans women are women”.
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— Medical doctors, psychologists and nurses speak with us under assurance of anonymity and journalistic source protection. A little 🧵 to quote the book “Regret” by Swedish investigative journalists @jemsby and Karin Mattisson.
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@Rianne_Vogels
Rianne Vogels
7 years
@kamilah @ingridavendano @Ana_M_Medina @WSJ should stop referring to systematic bias as "a distraction" for management. It's a top priority to be on top of, lawsuit or no lawsuit.
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Transition gives girls & young women unprecedented opportunities to 'lean in' ✨literally one of the guys✨ ✨a brand✨ ✨merch✨ ✨medications, surgeries just for you✨ * may lead to sterility, sexual dysfunction, lifelong hormone dependency, + complications, nah not literally
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Me: “Speak truth about sex/gender” These people: “You nazi shit!” “Punch the nazi!” “Rip that banner to shreds!”
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@MrMarkRBulger The FUCK TERFS sign was allowed in the march.
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NORWAY: tomorrow they vote. This may spell the end of access to meaningful therapy for Norwegian minors and adults who consider themselves trans. The bill neglects severe patient safety concerns raised by the Norwegian Healthcare Investigation Board:
@Rianne_Vogels
Rianne Vogels
10 months
This week, Norwegian politicians plan to vote through a bill where paediatric therapists risk up to 6 years in prison if they critically explore any child’s self-diagnosis as trans. @Jebadoo2 + @andrewdoyle_com discuss the issue in the vid below. The bill:
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4 years
@female1st @diabliitax Same shit as «lol who hurt you»
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@Rianne_Vogels
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Meanwhile, as many as 4 in 10 women in Norwegian prisons are forced to serve time with men, rapists included. There are too few single-sex wards and single-sex prisons for women. They can't lock their cell doors during day time and risk unwelcome "visits".
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Rianne Vogels
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@voorzij @bunq @Quotenet Een bank met 0 vrouwen in senior management heeft om ideële redenen besloten dat sommige feministen bij hen geen bankrekening kunnen hebben.
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@nottmfeline @TerfyMcTerfy We were turned away by the organisers via event security. The police wanted us in front of their car, with the march, and not in traffic. This turned into a bit of a ping pong scenario with us behind, in front, behind, but always kept separate from the march by event security
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@Rianne_Vogels
Rianne Vogels
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@thecassreview — Firstly, young people have been treated for many years, but it is now clear that there is little evidence that the treatment is effective and safe. Anne Wæhre, who leads the Norwegian national youth gender clinic
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@Rianne_Vogels
Rianne Vogels
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A small Dutch study led to "the Dutch protocol", which was picked up all around the world. Only the Tavistock clinic tried to replicate the results. Professor Michael Biggs chased their results, which were not forthcoming, He found out the Tavistock buried their negative results.
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@h295752 It is tradition to bring your own placard or banner. People are encouraged to make them in placard workshops. This used to be allowed as long as there’s no breech with the lead slogans that were voted in. "SPEAK TRUTHFULLY ABOUT SEX/GENDER" was expelled. "FUCK TERF-ER" stayed.
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@Rianne_Vogels
Rianne Vogels
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@WomenReadWomen My rapist expressed remorse, in writing, before raping another woman who also went to the cops. The “justice” system was entirely uninterested in reading his apology as what it was: an admission of guilt. They never investigated or prosecuted. Men’s remorse erases the crime
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a year since the organisation that I used to love and had co-created suggested in court that plausibly I myself had sent them an untraceable email saying I am transphobic and far right affiliated because they fired me and the court case had given me a platform 🐣
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I won! ✨ I took my employer #Papillon to court, after they fired me for questioning societal shifts in how sex and gender are understood, medicated and regulated. Legal team @BirtheEriksen1 @birtar @tilnils #WORIADS #Forstater
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— This is probably the most thorough work that has ever been done in this field, says Wæhre. This is what the leader of the Norwegian national gender clinic for children and youth considers most important in @thecassreview :
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@thecassreview — The British conclusion points in the same direction as the conclusion drawn in Norway last year, following a report from the Norwegian Healthcare Investigation Board (UKOM).
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@thecassreview — Historically, Norwegian guidelines and treatment in other countries have been motivated by a human rights and equality lens. Today, people are more concerned with evidence that treatments are effective and safe. Anne Wæhre, who leads the Norwegian national youth gender clinic
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@thecassreview — A "toxic environment," as Dr. Hillary Cass points out, has made it difficult for clinicians to openly discuss their uncertainties about providing treatment. Anne Wæhre, who leads the Norwegian national youth gender clinic
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@SheRateDogs “I thank him, but tell him I’m seeing someone so he just drops my crutches on the floor and walks away.”
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Me: “Speak truthfully about sex/gender” These people: “Banners with such messages create insecurity among many and lead to increased division and, in the worst case, violence.”
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@thecassreview — Treatment has been based on "the Dutch protocol", a treatment approach that favours “gender-affirming treatment”, which in turn is based on a small study, the quality of which is being questioned. Anne Wæhre, who leads the Norwegian national youth gender clinic
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@Rianne_Vogels
Rianne Vogels
4 years
Give me the confidence of the man who did prison time for "several criminal matters" and who, after switching his legal identity back to male, went to civil court to sue for the woes of being denied access to the women's ward and wearing women's clothing.
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@thecassreview — [Gender clinicians’ fear of discussing their uncertainties about provided treatment] was perhaps in fear of being labeled a transphobe, or of being perceived as unwilling to meet these children with an open mind. Anne Wæhre, who leads the Norwegian national youth gender clinic
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@Rianne_Vogels
Rianne Vogels
4 years
--This book was written for every woman and girl who's been told she had to do something differently, change something, make her life smaller so she isn’t subjected to male violence. The book has made a lot of men angry. You have to ask why that is. BUY IT
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Rianne Vogels
4 years
Protests led to a new prison strategy in 2017 that says female prisoners shall be separated from men. Status in 2020: female prisoners are often isolated, locked in their cell for much of the day. While watching male convicts play football, jog & barbeque.
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Rianne Vogels
6 months
@HJoyceGender from the audience at #FirstDoNoHarm : "We are seeing safeguarding professionals working at schools telling parents that they need to transition their children. How do we go back to safeguarding professionals doing their job?"
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Dr Margaret McCartney, author The State of Medicine, on hallmarks of medical scandals: Opinion over evidence A failure to consider evidence Conflicts of interests Commercial pressures Massive failure to collect information about harms Fuzzy margins Misguided awareness campaigns
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"The pressures for parents were obviously enormous." Professor Riittakerttu Kaltiala (Finland) highlights an impossible situation where parents would try to express concerns without saying anything.
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Rianne Vogels
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Imagine telling a mom that her daughter was born with a hormone condition. The condition being a severe testosterone deficiency that calls for lifelong hormone treatment. Not due to any physical health condition, but because the daughter says that she is a boy. @karolinskainst
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— … and they themselves are faced with a different reality, in which miserable and lost youths are looking for help in hopes of finally feeling well. But where nothing indicates that a transition will untie the knots they are in.
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6 years
Please welcome Steve Jobs to the shitlist.
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— They talk about their despair: society tells them to provide treatment, activist groups react with rage if they express concern, the media tells cheerful stories about happy trans children …
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4 years
Siri show me leading questions based on regressive stereotypes that can be ramped up to severe medical interventions in children. This is horrendous. Protect this child 💔
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Rianne Vogels
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— The British findings are very interesting, says Anne Wæhre, senior physician at the National Treatment Service for Gender Incongruence at Oslo University Hospital.
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#FirstDoNoHarm Professor Michael Biggs, Professor of Sociology at the Uni of Oxford, background from studying social and political movements, focused on supression of results from the Tavistock clinic, and on results from the Dutch protocol.
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7 years
@rgay Each man should have a yelp review page until we can figure out what is going on.
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5 years
@jesswade @AnnOlivarius @Wikipedia And at a rate of up to 3 per minute, too. This person must be incredibly knowledgeable and familiar with these women's achievements, since he can determine so efficiently that they won't meet Wikipedia's standards.
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— They don’t dare to express this openly. Instead, they continue providing treatment, but at night they lie awake and worry about how this all will end.
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@Call_Me_TX_Kate @theconqueeror @hannahjeanne10 @mie_yona @kenwongart Interesting, and thanks for answering my pesky questions! Here’s a big cheer for your Houston-based tech recruitment firm that offers blinded application processes at a discount. 👏👏👏👏👏
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#FirstDoNoHarm We should think about what it is like to come to a conference, when there are masked protesters outside. If we are made to listen to their drums, they should listen to our livestream. - Dr Margaret McCartney, MD, author of The State of Medicine
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@MoiraDonegan Stay loud ✊ Here’s mine. Still zero accountability.
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#FirstDoNoHarm The World Professional Association of Transgender Health (WPATH) has not been credible for at least three years. - Dr Susan Bewley, Professor Emeritus of Obstetrics and Women’s Health
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"I couldn't lock the door to my cell, and several men would come into my cell against my will. There they would frequently insist on sex. I didn't get any peace, so I felt it was safer to go out in the common room even though I really wanted to be in the cell", she says.
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@karolinskainst —The staff member at the gender clinic at @karolinskainst grabbed her arm, pulled her aside where no one could hear, and told her in a low voice: “Whatever you do, do not bring her to us. If you do, she will never get out of here. She will be a patient for the rest of her life.”
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@Call_Me_TX_Kate @theconqueeror @hannahjeanne10 @mie_yona @kenwongart What a great initiative. I’m curious now: what % of your recruitment clients opt to pay more so they can exercise their bias with ease? (You’re a women-run firm, and that skews the results. Still curious.)
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#FirstDoNoHarm "The evidence just wasn't of good enough quality to claim anything. There is not the extraordinary evidence to back up the extraordinary claims." - Dr Anna Hutchinson, Clinical Psychologist who worked at, and raised alarms about, Tavistock GIDS
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#FirstDoNoHarm Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. This is a principle in science. I suggest you take a sip everytime I say extraordinary in my short talk today. - Dr Anna Hutchinson, Clinical Psychologist who worked at, and raised alarms about, Tavistock GIDS
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4 years
This book @DrJessTaylor
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Dr. Az Hakeem: "Less than 2% of the pre-op group would choose to go through with transition, after hearing directly from the post-up group."
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#FirstDoNoHarm "I choose to no long see gender patients, to avoid the terrorists who try to ruin the lives of anyone who follows any approach that is not affirmatory." - Dr Az Hakeem
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👆 this particular article is about women made to share prison facilities with men, any men, not males who identify as women, due to a lack of women only wards. After protests, they finally separated the sexes 24/7 in prison, but they did it by locking down the women nearly 24/7.
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Sall Grover has had to raise more funds to defend a right to run a women-only app, than she raised for the app startup itself. Her women’s app is defunct while the federal-level court case takes its toll. Now cross exam is tone policing Sall and the crowdfunder needed for court
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PART 2 - NEW ABBREVIATIONS: du? = didn't you? wua? = wouldn't you agree? u = you dk = don't know Court starting to come back in...
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@karolinskainst — According to our sources, the gender identity clinic at @karolinskainst , and the medical doctors involved, now claim that *all cases are exceptional cases*. 🧵 ends Get the book (🇸🇪) or find their TV documentaries “the trans train” with sequels on YouTube. Subtitles available
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@karolinskainst These investigative journalists’ work contributed to the introduction of treatment restrictions in Sweden. To prevent more people getting harmed, gender treatment can only be provided in exceptional cases, and then only in a controlled manner and within a research setting. (…)
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Finding that all the best people are at #Filia2023
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Look who is here! @Rianne_Vogels from Norway 😘 #Filia2023
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#FirstDoNoHarm I don't think we are following the evidence here, and I think there is a huge potential for harm. - Dr Margaret McCartney, MD, author of The State of Medicine
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The mom who was told about the testosterone deficiency wondered if this was a scientifically validated truth, in which case availability of documentation would be a reasonable expectation. She asked to read the clinical unit’s information about it, but there was nothing to read.
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@trishgreenhalgh My brother gave a class presentation on black holes when he was 11-ish. Was told to redo the assignment without fantasy nonsense. He angrily delivered a new one about puppies, and went on to complete a PhD in physics.
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The mom also wondered what could happen during the treatment: — How do you deal with side effects? The answer was quick and unexpected, says the woman: — There are no side effects. @karolinskainst
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@thecassreview Comments on The Cass Review by Anne Wæhre, senior physician at the National Treatment Service for Gender Incongruence at Oslo University Hospital. She leads the youth gender clinic. Original text in Norwegian for the Scandis. Translations and full article linked above.
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@TheEconomist Girls are “provoking” things again, are they? Change your headline. Change your staff.
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7 years
Photo thread - Pay attention to the direction the riot police is facing.
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@redditships His best bet is the lady who stole canned beans from her man, buried said cans in a secret spot in the woods, and subsequently broke up with that good for nothing no-bean-cans-hider.
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@KrangTNelson I tried "nazi killer captured alive", got "Lethal car crash at chaotic protests leads to arrest. 'Fine young man', says aunt. Car totaled."
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— We get roughly the same story each time we welcome a new patient. They know what to say to get the diagnosis.
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@OllyTei @DeaExLena @algaealfie @philnelson A much larger percentage of sexual assaults are committed by someone the victim knew and trusted. E.g. a male “friend” who offers to drive or walk you home in the night. Or a friend of a friend. Like maybe one of your buddies.
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"This proposal to make it easier for young people to change their legal sex designation does not rest on science." Swedish professor and pediatric endocrinologist Jovanna Dahlgren
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The Norwegian media referred to him with she/her pronouns and ran headlines like "Trans woman had to serve time with men - denied compensation" even though he had changed his legal identity back to male.
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#FirstDoNoHarm There are many illegitimate ways of arguing. We must rely on evidence. - Dr Susan Bewley, Professor Emeritus of Obstetrics and Women’s Health
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#FirstDoNoHarm "Take a sip everytime I say extraordinary." - Dr Anna Hutchinson, Clinical Psychologist who worked at, and raised alarms about, Tavistock GIDS
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@SheRatesDogs Ok so I’m in Norway and imma need a name and a face to steer clear of.
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@manwhohasitall We should get better at mentoring and fostering male role models, so the boys of the future will have great men to look up to and emulate. 💪
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"Instead of pushing through a proposal to simplify legal sex reassignment and effectively speed up the process for young people to go ahead and actually undergo reassignment surgery, politicians should invest in more child psychiatric care that examines underlying dysphoria."
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@JBerdahl @DrMeaganTyler #ILeanedInAnd the treatment I got was brutal.
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@karolinskainst “A referral to the trans team is required”, the notes say in response to her call for help about transition regret. She gets to speak with her therapist, who doesn’t seem to understand her situation and offers no way out. “The best thing now is for Ellen to accept her story.”
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#FirstDoNoHarm "We were all so sure. I don't know if you have ever tried to convince anyone who is really drunk to go home on a night out? It's a little bit like that." - Richie Herron, detransitioner
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#FirstDoNoHarm panel session "The pressure is not coming from medical companies, it is coming from culture. There is a huge demand culturally, and schools play a big role in creating that demand." - Prof. Michael Biggs
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#FirstDoNoHarm panel From the audience: "We seem to be getting to a stage where we see that this is mad for young people. But isn't it also mad for adults?" "I still think, also for adults, that it is a non-solution for a different problem" - Dr. Az Hakeem
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@Rianne_Vogels
Rianne Vogels
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Oh! A year since I won my case. Since then, Norwegian health authorities have hit the breaks. But we’re still far removed from common sense in many layers and functions of our (tediously conflict avoidant) society. “Pink competence” (yes really) is still being taught everywhere
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"The court does not find that the statements made by Vogels on Twitter are transphobic," the judgment states. @Rianne_Vogels
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Rianne Vogels
6 months
About a bill, currently debated in Sweden, to make legal sex designation changes easier for youths: "Those in favor of the new bill believe that they are protecting the rights of LGBTQ people. But.."
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Rianne Vogels
6 months
#FirstDoNoHarm "All the issues didn't go away when I detransitioned. All the issues I tried to get away from at 25 were waiting for me. Desisters and detransitioners need follow up and care." - Richie Herron
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Rianne Vogels
6 years
@glosswitch These same guys will scoff at Karen from HR when she tells them that harassment of Lucy in Analytics is unacceptable. And then Karen gets fired or she quits. Lucy too.
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Rianne Vogels
4 months
@karolinskainst A woman who has received testosterone treatment, operated away her breasts, and lived in a male gender role for nearly 4 years asks for help: is her transition wrong. Did they make a mistake? The medical notes about this call for help are brief. (…)
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Rianne Vogels
6 months
#FirstDoNoHarm panel. Question from the audience. "I became aware of this issue by seeing patients in acute intensive care. I find that the published journals post bullshit information that is just not true. And as a clinician I am still failing them, I still cannot help them."
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