'What is my career for if not to speak up now?'
@evonnetcurran
.bsky.social
Our job (IPC) is to keep people safe.
When we make mistakes we correct them.
At the dentist an alarm rings.
Dentist: is that your alarm?
Me: Oh yes, that's my CO2 alarm. It's over 1500
Dentist: we have bad air?
Me: yes
Dentist: is that why I am always tired? Puts the ventilation on (it was put in for covid)
Wanted to say could be the CO2 could be long C
BREAKING: NHS England is to release an IPC Manual at the end of March which says COVID-19 is spread via DROPLETS
SARS-CoV-2 is transmitted by aerosols (and droplets) and thus HCWs need RPE and cleaned air.
Evidence of droplet-only-resp transmission DOES NOT EXIST.
Ok you job today is to identify whether the authors have a bias against N95s
"We found no evidence that the more expensive, irritating and uncomfortable N95 respirators were superior to simple surgical masks."
Could someone tell me which scientific papers people are reading which show it will be safe (no harm done) to anyone by the removal of masks in care settings.
I cannot find any.
Doing it cos others are, is neither sound nor evidenced.
We all know that measles is spread by aerosol: it's an airborne virus. So why does the public-facing NHS advice (below) falsely say that measles is spread by 'coughs and sneezes'? A short 🧵
Still reading the book. Amongst many brilliant lines and forensic analyses, this...
"The idea that the best way to protect yourself from a virus is to get the virus is like using pregnancy as a form of contraception."
👏👏👏👏
@19joho
The decision-making was wrong because the situation assessments were wrong.
The situation assessments were wrong because the precautions wrong.
The precautions were wrong because the guidance wrong.
The guidance was wrong because the modes of transmission were just made up.
Absolutely shocked by the mode of transmission error here in Scotland.
Covid is airborne.
You cannot control an outbreak with the wrong measures
@P_H_S_Official
I met important people today. I made several strong arguments in support of covid being airborne. I hope I did sufficient to change minds.
Here are the arguments:🧵
I am at a loss. There is removal of mitigations in hospitals with a nosocomial acquisition of 30%.
The C of Practice says - all nosocomial infections should be prevented...
Q: what is the goal with regard to the prevention of nosocomial of SARS2?
To all those who have not stopped trying to reduce airborne transmission using physics, engineering, statistics, contradictions in guidance, connections in data, showing a lack of legal H&S decision-making, ethics, education, truth and
proposing safer decision making.
Thank you
Thorough review of long covid in kids. Just published. Expect the minimisers to keep doubling down as the evidence of significant harm continues to mount. Admitting their role in the harm would lead to personal and professional annihilation.
It seems we have prevention programmes for many diseases, e.g. cancer / heart disease. But NONE for an infectious virus which is causing cancer and heart disease....
Could someone wake up public health
#BeatWinterViruses
with good handwashing 🧼.
Airborne viruses like flu and COVID-19 linger on surfaces we touch daily.
Washing your hands with soap and water for at least 30 seconds will eliminate germs before passing them on.
Cleaning the air and masking are the best ways to prevent transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in hospitals. But we can't be bothered with evidence, so we are going to blame it on you and your hand hygiene. Stop it
@NHSuk
Washing your hands with soap and water is one of the easiest ways to protect yourself and others from viruses like norovirus, flu and COVID-19 - and it helps reduce pressures on healthcare services.
➡️
Perhaps if the head of immunisation thinks the UK can stop an airborne virus with hand washing, its time to get another spokesperson.
Is this mis-prevention recommendation activity deliberate
@UKHSA
?
1:10,000 according to the CDC
So I have a question
@P_H_S_Official
If influenza is transmitted 1 day before symptoms, how is it spread via coughs and sneezes that have yet to develop?
Update: to include transmission in an empty room 4+hrs post the infectious occupant leaving
When you have eliminated the impossible transmission routes, those that remain, however much they don't fit in to your biased paradigm, must be/include the truth.
Its airborne
Apols to SH
It does not make sense to aim to prevent MRSA bacteraemia, + MDROs, + CDI, & device related infections if the patients get COVID.
The more you get COVID the more your chance of long term harm.
The mortality is significant.
Prevention of SARS-CoV-2 must be primary.
Over 83,000 people with hospital-acquired Covid-19 in a year (and likely an underestimate!). Many of these will have died.
For reference, c.diff reports are about 5,000 a year. MRSA bacteraemia about 1,000. These are infections that we (rightly) are working hard to prevent.
2/
My comments on the Cochrane mask review are up. Apparently when evaluating studies to find out if masks work you don't need to define transmission modes, or whether the mask was capable (by design and as worn) to prevent transmission...
The Coroner, looked at the crowded assembly, directed all the windows to be opened. This caused commotion. The Coroner said that with the influenza about again an unventilated room was a death-trap.
Whose Body. Dorothy L. Sayers. Ch VI 1923
@CathNoakes
@WorldHealthSmt
@DrTedros
@Karl_Lauterbach
@AlsisiOfficial
"One of the great tragedies of
#COVID19
is that none of this had to be that way.
We cannot let the painful lessons of the pandemic go to waste.
That is why WHO has developed a plan for a more equitable, inclusive and coherent global architecture for health emergency
Today I wrote to the UK's CNOs. I made 9 points in support of the argument that airborne diseases necessitate airborne precautions. The points made were as follows:
1) Droplet precautions applied globally have failed to contain this pandemic and prevent nosocomial infections
So I have a question....
Why if you cannot diagnose COVID without a test
And COVID is a notifiable disease
Is it possible to have a standing instruction not to test for COVID?
h/t
@DRTomlinsonEP
I wrote a paper that pointed out over the past 30 years through 5 versions of guidance authors had removed all recognition that MRSA was disseminated by the air.
It's been - 'air-brushed'
Paper rejected yesterday.
So to answer your question, I'm lost.
"Prevention of SARS-CoV-2 transmission to patients with cancer should be prioritized to minimize impact on cancer treatments and maximize quality of life for individuals with cancer during the ongoing pandemic..."
There never was evidence for droplets
The
@WHO
said it was droplets
& those charged with guidance said it was droplets
& still do so.
Its airborne
'The NHS sold out its staff': Doctors whose lives were devastated by long COVID to sue health service
Why would you continue to put the workforce in a surgical mask which is not designed to prevent transmission by inhalation as a defence against a disease which is transmitted via the air and enters to infect via inhalation?
For some, flu or COVID-19 can be very dangerous and even life-threatening. Flu and COVID-19 vaccines reduce the risk of serious illness in colder months.
Find out if you’re eligible and book now at or on the NHS App.
Please elaborate on your plans to stop a driving force for community transmission of SARS-CoV-2 - school classrooms.
If the classrooms could be better ventilated, children would not be infected so many times and they would not spread it to fellow pupils.
Time in the classroom is important and even small moments in a school day make a real difference to children's lives. Increases in persistent absence have been reported as a post-pandemic challenge in schools around the world.
1/5 🧵 Here’s how we're improving school attendance
I have now written to the Nursing and Midwifery Council to ask for an opinion as to whether the
@UKHSA
Is forcing HCWs to break the Code of Practice, specifically section 4 and 19.
@CNOEngland
@profalexmcmahon
@CNOWales
Can someone ask
@mvankerkhove
to explain why
@WHO
Geneva Campus in spring 2020 modified their ventilation system with increased air supply, better air filtering and no recycling of air?
Was it so she could safely spread this message?
Did you know that the CDC says that Covid infection has an effect on the immune system?
And that it's likely to increase the risk of fungal infections?
Can I say a polite *fork you* to everyone who told me that Covid doesn't affect the immune system?
Oh hang on
CV people should ask visitors to
- keep their distance
- test pre visit
- wear a mask
But go to health care, share spaces with positive patients, and no masking and just put up with it
Fails the DIMS test - it does not make sense
Fails ethics
Thread is 140 posts long.
Most important thread you'll read - possibly. It's full of science and critical thinking and it's why droplets are NOT the driver of this pandemic but aerosols.
Mandatory for all in IPC. HNY.
1/ What were the historical reasons for the resistance to recognizing airborne transmission during the COVID-19 pandemic?
Our peer-reviewed open-access paper is now published:
Great. Can we start with the pandemic.
The mental models for transmission have been done by world experts in aerosols (not IPC).
Here is of
@trishgreenhalgh
's evidence on the virus being airborne.
Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes
Standard precautions should include 'safe ventilation' to minimise far-afield airborne transmission in health and social care settings.
Of course that would involve changing the guidance from droplets - lets go for it.
7 slides showing that neither CDC nor WHO presented evidence for the existence of droplet transmission
You may have seen this from the WHO most pandemic refs refer to it - note lack of evidence (its not in 5), and in the def or aerosols it says 'its not yet clear'
I can understand governments.
I cannot understand
@UKHSA
, those in public health, those who write national IPC guidelines, or those who write IPC society guidelines.
Speak, write, act - this is an airborne virus and airborne mitigations are needed to prevent transmission
In awe of
@SalWitcher
in the
@HMcArdleHT
piece Herald. People know nosocomial transmission happens. Yet, in the face of high HAI the action - stop the data. Stopping data wont stop transmission.
Admit airborne, povide IAQ, resps & keep people safe. Show the data. Prep 4 winter
And here it is Appx 5.
They could not agree that short-range airborne = airborne precautions because it would cost money.
NOT because they don't need RPE, but because Legal, Logistic, Operational, Financial and global implications re equity & access.
They have withdrawn masks in Scotland's Healthcare system and referred 'concerned staff' to complete a risk assessment.
Lets fill out their risk assessment...
I don't remember voting for living with any virus that is
a) killing people (of all ages)
b) transmitting in hospitals & care settings with lethal consequences
c) resulting in so much long term sick
d) harming children and their long term health prospects
@UKHSA
There is no point trying to prevent some but not all HAIs. None.
There is no point, honesty, or reality in doing QI unless you do COVD prevention.
Why aren't infection prevention societies screaming?
I resigned. I can't be part of an organisation allowing this.
Upcoming life support training. What is so striking is the effort and care we put into this, while ignoring everything we have learned about the dangers of infectious disease transmission from healthcare workers to critically ill patients. Odd, isn't it?
Here is my suggestion.
Put it down.
Pick up the phone to some aerosols scientists.
Get them in the room, and start again.
Deference to experts and expertise - IPC are not experts on aerosol physics or transmission.
🆕
@WHO
Respiratory Pathogens Pandemic Preparedness Guidance
Through technical consultations with countries and partners,
@WHO
has led the development of the draft Respiratory Pathogens: Pandemic Preparedness Guidance👇
Draft for input (deadline 18 Dec)
Everyone who said it was droplets because CDC/WHO said it was (including me) and who now believes droplet only resp transmission does not exist, what have you done about it?
Who have you told?
Only by all sharing that we are working with a nonexistent paradigm can we change it.
So SARS-CoV-2 is in the air of Covid wards (infrequently in ICU air) but absent when the filters are turned on.
Tell me how it's spread by droplet-only-respiratory-transmission
@UKHSA
@NHSNSS
It's neither a cold nor the flu.
It's not being prevented in hospitals, or schools on national instructions. There are no treatments yet.
For you today
@jasonleitch
🧵February 7, 2020.
@DrMikeRyan
on the cruise ship outbreak :
“Let’s be careful not to overreact..Remember, in SARS..this disease isn’t airborne..[😳]there was a great scare that this was airborne..It didn't turn out to be so..
a cruise ship is a very particular environment.”
I promised a review
@19joho
“This book is fundamentally about the obligations doctors [and nurses] have when communicating with the public [and colleagues] about a deadly virus.”
Am laughing now...
"The term 'through the air' is similar to waterborne, and bloodborne ..."
It would be more similar if they called it 'airborne' ....
The CMO/CNO letter on removal of masks in Scotland was examined.
The case from the CMO/CNO is shown in blue.
The CMO/CNO's situational awareness assessment omitted the harms from the decision (and the benefits of the status quo) summarised here.
Well lets start by reducing staff and patient exposure to an airborne pathogen by applying airborne precautions.
BBC News - NHS struggling to open extra winter beds and fill staffing gaps
I think Dr Berger's question is critical for all in IPC.
Because if you don't prevent the most significant preventable infection what is the point of IPC.
To be Clear. Evidence based guidelines are for following. Opinion pieces from renowned scientists are for considering. Individual single papers are for noting. Tweets themselves are not evidence of anything.
Covid is continuing to cause more disruption to the health service than all other infectious diseases combined (norovirus, flu, RSV etc) when in comes to sheer numbers of ward closures. That's a major headache for NHS capacity and recovery
Let's take a look at where we are:
We have normalised a pathogen that's breaking the NHS with cases.
We are advocating
- droplet precautions for an airborne virus.
- airborne for AGPs which fails the DIMS test
HAI covid is through the roof.
Anyone for the engineers taking over?
I think it is wrong to label
@UKHSA
'experts' when they fail so appallingly on infection prevention and control.
This is an airborne virus. Wash your hands all you like but don't expect the outcome to be sufficient to prevent cvd.
Masks, ventilation yes.
"UKHSA experts recommend regular handwashing and staying away from others where possible if you have symptoms of a respiratory illness."
Yes, by all means, wash hands, the second part is spot-on... but there's something missing 🙄😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷
"Meanwhile, those inactive because of long-term sickness increased to a record high." ONS
Everyone repeatedly getting COVID & increasingly becoming long term sick is
not a viable economic strategy
not a viable economic strategy
not a viable economic strategy
or an ethical one.
Headline indicators for the UK labour market for February to April show:
▪️ employment was 76.0%
▪️ unemployment was 3.8%
▪️ economic inactivity was 21.0%
➡️
Reality check
Just another winter virus ❌
Herd immunity ❌
Only over 65s need vaccine ❌
Droplet spread ❌
No requirement for airborne precautions in schools /hospitals❌
It will be fine next year❌
Need to regularly get infected ❌
Stop listening to the people getting it wrong
So not immunity debt or mask wearing then
It was exposure to covid
....preventing covid and covid associated diseases, including RSV
lets prevent that damage on the immune and respiratory system... for you today
@jasonleitch
Yesterday at Inq - was hard hitting
Its clear now...
We followed the guidance wont do.
We followed the WHO wont do.
Wake up call: its still airborne, its still transmitting, its still causing serious harms and its still killing.
& IPC still have guidance saying - droplets.
Lancashire Teaching Hospitals. Sent to all staff yesterday, staff not to test unless on Ribbelsdale (inpatient oncology) or ward 25 (renal). No-one else should test, incl outpatient oncology clinic, cancer treatment centre, and dialysis.
I despair...
@ShaunLintern
@PMGallagher1
To be clear, it spread from the driver to the riders of the bus.
It spread backwards on the bus. Airborne then.
No AGPs were undertaken on the bus.
Ergo, you don't need an AGP for airborne transmission in hospitals.
1 It is illogical in the UK guidance to write that SARS-CoV-2 is spread via droplets, and droplet precautions are required, because the definitions used for airborne fits within the definition of droplets!
There is no evidence for droplet only respiratory transmission.
This is an outstanding thread on norovirus transmission. Faecal oral route for norovirus is a misnomer.
Perhaps one for your podcasts
@emrsa15
If its in the air - and it is in the air - we have to rethink prevention
Source-to-infection pathway might look like this...
We don't have to keep infecting people in our hospitals and care settings with a vasculopathic, cardiopathic and neuropathic virus.
There is a plan 'B'
If you are a decision-maker and going with plan A, please provide evidence of safety - I cant find it.
PPS if you pay staff...
Oh my word, you've probably seen this already, but this is the ONS breakdown of excess deaths in the UK...
The top killer in March was... wait for it... "symptoms, signs and ill-defined conditions", which would be hilarious if it wasn't excess deaths we're talking about. 😮
I read it
This pandemic is spread via AIRBORNE TRANSMISSION
Preparedness for another via AIRBORNE TRANSMISSION MUST involve
Aerosol scientists
Indoor Air Quality
RPE
This WHO doc omits all of the above
It will not prepare the planet for the next one
So very disappointed to read this response.
It begins with the statement below...
I'll be honest I cant find any evidence that there is continuous reviews of the evidence but lets take a look.
Where are they published; how are they done?
Come on
@guardian
get a grip.
The evidence is not hard to find.
It was not the lockdowns what did it.
It was the virus that damaged the brains, immune systems and other organs, and caused repeated infections virus leading to long covid...
Don't go all daily mail on cvd.
🚨🚨Hands down the worst piece of minimisation of the long term health effects of Covid infections I've yet seen from
@guardian
and
@hannahdev
.
Genuinely awful.
Please tell them how bad this is.
Serious question:
Who owns (which specialty) owns covid, its complications, its prevention, its treatment, its long-term sequalae?
Who is doing / leading on the guideline, surveillance, prevention, treatment, and complications?
The answers are absent in the NIPCM.
So 20yrs post SARS1
4yrs into SARS2
We now have great definitions of airborne transmission & a risk assessment for IAQ
How do we get to the bit where we have and monitor indoor air quality and prevent inhalation transmission in hospitals.
As the author this is difficult to comprehend. It's all referenced to published peer reviewed scientific literature. The ref to the WHO preparedness doc and the absence of physics therein is there for all to see.
My LinkedIn account will be deleted.
Measles transmission is airborne, yet the best
@UKHSA
teams can come up with is this
What about letting in some fresh air?
What about face mask (preferably respirator) use?
Why is the UK health security agency so weak on public health messaging towards cleaner air?
@SMHopkins
A new study has shown that Covid‐19 may have a small, but lasting impact on people’s cognitive and memory abilities, potentially for a year or more after infection ➡️
@NHSEngland
@imperialcollege
@ImperialBRC
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I talk about covid because hosp acq covid levels are obscene and the IPC guidance is based on a misinterpretation of evidence.
Covid is airborne and we need IAQ in hosps, HCWs need respirators, to prevent covid being acq in hospitals by both patients and staff.
1/ Hi Meaghan - I talk a lot about Covid because I genuinely believe that letting a novel coronavirus that has the potential to cause significant long-term health problems in some of those infected rip through society using only a vaccine strategy to mitigate is a bad idea.
"Covid Risk Patient Placement"
The placement of a patient in a multi-bedded area where patients or staff therein are likely to be infectious or incubating SARS-CoV-2
This is against the CQC fundamental safety standard: you must not put patients at risk of harm...
I think its beyond time that journals and societies are brave and start reporting the...
- what we got wrong
- how we got it wrong
- how we are going to make sure that never happens again
or are we expected to believe in unevidenced droplets forever?
Who do I work for re COVID? No one. I am doing it as I recommend all outbreak work is done for: patient, HCW and visitor safety. I could not stand by when COVID is clearly airborne, droplets as a mode of transmission is unsupported by evidence, & many are not allowed to say so.
Why test people from China if its just a cold and we are letting it rip anyway?
If its to stop pressure on the NHS - NEWS - the pressure on the NHS is already huge - so why not try to stop that
Does the pressure on the NHS from infections & diseases indicate - this is not a cold?
@hans_kluge
In this context, we all need to use our own judgement when taking steps to protect ourselves, and others around us, based on an individual assessment of risk.
@hans_kluge
So on the advice of
@ukhsa
this...
Q how many people will get C19 because of this change?
Q what does 'predominately immunocomp' mean?
Q would you consider your relative in a hospital ward safe?
Q Why did people changed with maintaining safety ok this?
Ok so I have a question.
Are you really telling me that these cited papers provide evidence for 'direct deposition' (and not airborne)
Because you know I will look up each and every one ....
Its not that people got it wrong - everyone got something wrong. Its that its been 5 years and no one has put it right.
In that time no one has produced evidence other than that which confirms SARS-CoV-2 is airborne.
And everyone knows.