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Actual Geriatrician. LFC. funk, disco, hiphop+onitsuka tigers. tweets about medicine+older people. Also runs a 12 CPD point frailty course @leedsfrailtyed

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@sean9n
Sean Ninan
3 years
So my wife has been turned away and threatened with social services and a safeguarding referral at the vaccination centre for coming along with her baby. Now unsurprisingly in tears. This vaccine hesitancy amongst Asians really is a problem isn’t it?
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Sean Ninan
2 years
Neurology Exam PowerPoints getting updated across the world right now
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Dr Philip Lee
2 years
Feel bad for Justin Bieber, hope he recovers soon. For any medical students/PACES candidate, this is a CLASSIC right CN VII palsy, with Bell's Phenomenon.
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Sean Ninan
3 years
@drkateflavs Complaint incoming. Softly spoken Asian lady with bolton accent is actually a formidable litigator...
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Sean Ninan
3 years
Elaboration...my lovely wife was excited about her first covid jab due today and went down with our 10 month old. She is on mat leave. I'm at work. No bubbles. No nowt. Herbie is pretty chill.
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Sean Ninan
3 years
(our baby!)
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Sean Ninan
3 years
UPDATE - Tim Hiles, Director of Ops, phoned my wife and apologised. He explained that children are allowed to be present if necessary and offered another appointment. Thank you
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Sean Ninan
5 years
Public Health England have just released updated guidance on diagnosing UTIs. “DONT USE DIPSTICKS IN OLDER PEOPLE” Hallelujah.
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Sean Ninan
2 years
If a patient is walking up and down the ward like they normally do, they don’t need a physio assessment. Not everyone needs PTOT
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Sean Ninan
3 years
I don't want to claim staff were racist although anyone who think the experiences of an Asian woman are not affected by her ethnicity and gender lives on a different planet (where they don't hang around with many Asian women)
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Sean Ninan
3 years
She was turned away as no children allowed. The email didn't give any details of this. She brought our firstborn for her flu jab so presumed no issue with bringing a baby in her arms
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Sean Ninan
5 years
“Is it dangerous if I stop this statin?” “Not any more dangerous than being 98 already is”
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Sean Ninan
3 years
Vaccines will save us. Get the jab. But if we want more people to get vaccinated we have to make it easy, and we have to understand the barriers. I have spent the day thinking about what people with less money, motivation, social support, transport, time off work, would do
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Sean Ninan
3 years
The Geriatrician's Prayer The Courage to fight for older people unfairly written off The Serenity to accept when things won’t get better The Wisdom to know the difference And The Humanity to have found out “what matters” for patient centred decisions
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Sean Ninan
3 years
Vaccine hesitancy is complex, and not about stupidity. I can imagine other people with less resource and motivation to get vaccinated giving up after today's experience. Hence the reference to hesitancy amongst Asians
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Sean Ninan
1 year
Spread The Good Word. Spot It. Sort It. Stop It. Delirium
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Sean Ninan
3 years
Do disposable aprons for medical staff have a net benefit or harm for the health of the world?
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Sean Ninan
3 years
Giving people in their last year of life calcium tablets in the morning is a great way to put them off their breakfast. How much have you reduced their fracture risk by?
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Sean Ninan
3 years
It's not a small thing driving across town with a baby for a covid jab more than a year of perpetual lockdowns when your husband has spent 9 months on a covid ward and you have barely seen your own (high risk) family that you normally visit every month
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Sean Ninan
3 years
@audsies interesting. she was at elland road, and when she said she was happy to take the risk of the vaccine whilst her baby was present, they said that might necessitate a referral to safeguarding for putting her child at unnecessary risk
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Sean Ninan
1 year
What is the point of doing routine 4ATs in the ED? Most of us will miss delirium and memory problems on brief reviews if we don't do some specific testing. You might think you're good at just spotting delirium. But you're probably not. (Neither am I)
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Sean Ninan
3 years
This pandemic and associated restrictions has been hard for us. For others much much harder. Lets make it as easy as possible to get out of this mess
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Sean Ninan
3 years
(Apologies for my reference to our baby as "her" baby - the patriarchy infects us all!)
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Sean Ninan
2 years
“Progression of dementia” is a diagnosis to be used cautiously, by someone with expertise, after reversible factors have been excluded. It’s never when someone has deteriorated over a week with a creatinine of 300, a CRP of 200 and some coincidental consolidation on their x-ray
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Sean Ninan
3 years
So she said she wanted to take the jab. If she became incapacitated, call her husband. But if you did really need to call social services because no-one was available to look after Herbie than please do so. Because emergencies are what they are there for.
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Sean Ninan
6 years
Some of geriatrics involves convincing others not to write off older people. Some of geriatrics involves convincing others not to be overzealous in investigating and treating frail older people. It’s difficult to teach (and learn!)
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Sean Ninan
3 years
Apparently this sounded so dangerous that the supervisor thought that social services might need to be called straight away, given that there was a mother not putting the wellbeing of their child first
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Sean Ninan
3 years
A lot of people have replied with their own takes on things. I can be loose with words. Am about feels not deets. I started this morning reading the words of Allison Pearson talking about the stupidity of unvaccinated South Asians
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Sean Ninan
3 years
She thought the risk from covid jabs is quite small and explained that if she did become incapacitated they could call her husband as emergency contact. Apparently that wouldn't be possible and the only thing they could do was call social services who would have to remove child
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Sean Ninan
3 years
@nadhimzahawi I will give her your details. Thanks
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Sean Ninan
3 years
I also have no desire to punish staff/get them sacked. Everyone is the hero in their own life story and this story is being told from different perspectives (although here the other side is clearly wrong!)
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Sean Ninan
3 years
My wife is not someone who you would describe as "risky" or confrontational....
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Sean Ninan
3 years
She asked for an explanation and was told by supervisor the risk was of a reaction incapacitating her and necessitating a phone call to social services
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Sean Ninan
3 years
What do geriatricians actually do?
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Sean Ninan
6 years
If your patient could wash and dress themselves two weeks ago and can’t now, they don’t need a care package, they need CGA, which may include temporary care with an aim to rehab to previous state simultaneously
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Sean Ninan
2 months
geriatricians should diagnose straightforward cases of dementia when everything is clear, even when seeing people as an acute admission. story in @GeriSoc
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Sean Ninan
1 year
Has anyone done a study/QIP on NOT DOING CT head scans in older people with very severe frailty that have a fall and head injury on anticoagulations. I would be happy to do some shared decision making around avoid CT head scans but has anyone does this systematically+evaluated?
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Sean Ninan
3 years
She was told to book another appointment, and the supervisor walked off
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Sean Ninan
5 years
I tried speaking to one of my older patients about resuscitation: “If your heart stopped beating...” *interrupts* “How could my heart stop beating with you by my side?” I think this might be the most beautiful thing anyone has ever said to me.
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Sean Ninan
3 years
I’m a consultant and I’ve spent large parts of the day in soft play, cooking, and watching David Attenborough documentaries, with some overlap. 4 days a week at work. One day for my boys. No apologies
@AbbieSBrooks
Abbie
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I’m a GP. I don’t work Tuesdays. I dropped my kids at school, just had a tennis lesson and I’m meeting my mum shortly to take her to the cinema. All these things keep me sane. No apologies for working “part time”. #teamGP
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Sean Ninan
1 year
You know you’re a geriatrician when your friends come round for a night out and you teach the Epley maneouvre during the predrinks.
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Sean Ninan
6 years
Why isn’t there a CQUIN for a proper social/collateral history with activities of daily living for frail older patients? It would make a much bigger difference to quality of care than VTE or dementia CQUINs
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Sean Ninan
4 years
Two lessons for doctors here 1) not to write off 81 year olds who may have full and active lives and 2) not all fit 81 year olds want to be “for everything.” We should still ask preferences even if we think they should be “for escalation.”
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Karan Chadda
4 years
A lovely letter in The Times reminding us of how much older generations contribute to our lives.
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Sean Ninan
5 years
Positive dipstick does not equal UTI. Positive dipstick does not equal UTI. Positive dipstick does not equal UTI. Positive dipstick does not equal UTI. Positive dipstick does not equal UTI. Positive dipstick does not equal UTI. Positive dipstick does not equal UTI.
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Michelle Kittleson MD PhD
5 years
Elevated D-dimer does not equal pulmonary embolism. Elevated D-dimer does not equal pulmonary embolism. Elevated D-dimer does not equal pulmonary embolism. Elevated D-dimer does not equal pulmonary embolism.
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Sean Ninan
2 years
@mevparekh Congratulations on the consultant post
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Sean Ninan
6 months
Why use the CFS? 1. CFS helps describe how older people vary 2. It’s succinct for brief handover 3. It encourages detail in taking a functional history 4. It helps set goals of care 5. It identifies the need for CGA New video.
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Sean Ninan
7 months
Having got cardiology advice to give DAPT to two older patients with moderate or severe frailty this week, with minor trop roses in the context of infection, this graphic is a good reminder to decision making in T2MI.
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Sean Ninan
5 years
So I asked my juniors to find out something interesting about their patients today. 1) one patient knows a famous local singer 2) second patient also knows that singer and worked for a tank factory 3) third patient worked for a tank factory and has met foreign leaders! Be curious
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Sean Ninan
2 years
@DrSdeG @ShaunLintern Like other bad plans, I understood this at the beginning of the pandemic. But not allowing a triple vaccinated, asymptomatic, lateral flow negative visitor wearing the same PPE as I do, to visit their relative with dementia or delirium, seems excessively cruel now
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Sean Ninan
3 months
“Going home tomorrow” “How are they walking?” “Transfers with 2” How does that work if the patient came into hospital walking? “Awaiting rehab bed” “How are they walking?” “Independently…” (When they were previously needing help to TF) Ask about mobility. It’s crucial
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Sean Ninan
4 years
I find it sad when geriatricians who stop statins due to “limited benefit” think calcium tablets are absolutely essential in the last years of life. What exactly are we trying to achieve?
@dr_shibley
shibley
4 years
Curious witnessing a thread to see 'grown' geriatricians not batting an eyelid over making a nonagenarian with advanced dementia swallow huge calcium tablets. Oh well.
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Sean Ninan
4 years
Turns out English men can’t do geriatric ward rounds
@vitt2tsnoc
Vitt
4 years
Who comes up with this? What about fixing skirting boards?
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Sean Ninan
3 years
New F2 nailing it 🙌🏾
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Sean Ninan
3 years
How many hospital trusts have “discharge wards” where patients go to wait for something - carers, intermediate care, care home etc?
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Sean Ninan
1 year
Great to share our trustwide plans for delirium @LeedsHospitals today. Some very important lessons around recognising the person’s capabilities before they came into hospital, the possibility for reversibility, the potential for prevention, and the power of the family/carer
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Sean Ninan
5 years
Might as well toss a coin, yo. Don’t be a dipstick
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Sean Ninan
4 years
Asked juniors on covid ward what topic they wanted teaching on this week, and they said geriatrics - I kid you not. Moving from hoist to transfer to ZF+1 to walking a few yards is like following the CRP. Spread some learning man.
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Sean Ninan
3 years
Anyway, thanks for coming. Now you're here, stay for tweets about how to make healthcare better for older people
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Sean Ninan
2 years
Week 1. Delirium, AKI etc. Background of dementia. ZF around the house. Carers qds. Illnesses treated but mostly lying in bed. Not eating much. Not talking much. “Not engaging. Probable new baseline. D2A/24 hr care” 3/52 later. Eating, drinking, talking, colouring in. Walking 30m
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Sean Ninan
2 years
Doctors have very limited imagination when it comes to how older people function at home. It can be quite surprising how people who “look frail” can be quite independent at home, and can deteriorate rapidly when unwell and iatrogenesed. Don’t say “I don’t believe this man walked”
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Sean Ninan
3 years
Good times really
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Sean Ninan
11 months
Harms of anticoagulation for AF much greater in cognitive impairment. Modest life expectancy improvement, no effect on stroke, and higher risk of bleeding in NH residents with advanced dementia. Judgement tricky!
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Sean Ninan
1 year
Treating older people with frailty is hard. But whether you’re in ED, Acute med, cardiology or general surgery, you need to understand the way to do it. #LeedsFrailtyEducation
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Sean Ninan
3 months
Part of geriatrics is asking “what could we reverse here?” (e.g. infection, dehydration, constipation, retention, metabolic problems, medication harms, nutrition, deconditioning) The other part is asking “Should we reverse it?” in terms of trajectories of illness and WM2M
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Sean Ninan
5 years
Isaacs mate. Grand round next week. Come and see me
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Sean Ninan
3 years
Today, I advised a sedative, prescribed antibiotics for a UTI (no urinary symptoms) and increased chronic anti hypertensive medication. This is the opposite of what I normally do but being patient centred in geriatrics means being flexible
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Sean Ninan
3 years
For every patient we look after we should know how they function normally, how they function now, why there is a gap, if there is, and have a plan to address this gap in a patient centred way, knowing what matters most.
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Sean Ninan
6 years
Asked to take a collateral history for cognitive decline. Try this
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Sean Ninan
2 years
Why do we palliate some patients straight away, but with other patients spend a long time trying to get them better? This patient looks so frail. A very good question. A) Baseline. The term seems to be unpopular
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Sean Ninan
4 months
12 CPD points for £80? (virtual) and £120 in person. Too good to turn down! Come and learn about frailty, delirium, dementia, falls, polypharmacy and more in the wonderful city of Leeds.
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Sean Ninan
1 year
85 years old CFS 3 4AT 12 NEWS 0 A powerful story. If you want to learn more about how useful this concise information is, and how it affects management read my blog and come along to to learn more. @LeedsFrailtyEd
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Sean Ninan
9 months
When we say people “look frail” we mean they look thin and unwell. This isn’t the same as frailty. All of us who are thin in old age (some of us are thin in young or middle age!) are at risk of being dismissed as frail if we come into hospital tired and unwell
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Sean Ninan
5 years
@cwritesstuff @cloudwaterbrew Just do whatever it takes guys
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Sean Ninan
3 years
Finding joy in the small things. Couldn’t be more excited
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Sean Ninan
3 years
I’ve met a bunch of bloody lovely geriatricians in the last few weeks who give me hope that things may not be as bad as they seem. Because my colleagues are boss! Choose Leeds. Choose Gerizzzz
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Sean Ninan
6 months
20-30% of patients in hospital have delirium. Many are missed so we need to sceeen - using a 4AT. prevention is better than cure. We need to systematise good care for patients at risk of delirium. Here’s what to do @LeedsFrailtyEd
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Sean Ninan
5 years
How to diagnose UTI in older people. Thoughts? Might have to pinch and zoom on a phone
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Sean Ninan
2 years
“They’re for full escalation” But what if they don’t want to be? Even where I would offer resus, many of my patients (mostly >80, mostly at least moderate frailty, but a fair few mildly frail or not frail) don’t want to be The most common reason I record a DNACPR is pt choice
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Sean Ninan
2 years
Forgot my stethoscope on a home visit. Luckily the patient had one for me! A vintage number
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Sean Ninan
2 years
“Orientated TPP” “compos mentis” unhelpful terms. A 4AT score of >0 doubles your length of stay. You’ll miss some patients with memory issues with superficial chats on ward rounds. It’s not normal to not know your age or what year we are on. Do a 4AT.
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Sean Ninan
3 months
Lesson of the week. If an older person who normally lives independently presents to hospital unable to explain why there are or what happened, assume delirium even with normal obs and looking ok. In this case bloods revealed AKI and raised inflammatory markers. no conincidence
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Sean Ninan
1 year
Why am I not convinced that a mass transfer to residential care is the answer....?
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Sean Ninan
4 months
If you’re a clinician looking after older people in ED or specialty ward? If you’re in primary care doing frailty work but want to learn? If you’re an MDT member doing one part of CGA but wants to find out about the whole? If you’re wondering what the point of CFS, 4AT etc is?👇🏾
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Sean Ninan
4 months
12 CPD points for £80? (virtual) and £120 in person. Too good to turn down! Come and learn about frailty, delirium, dementia, falls, polypharmacy and more in the wonderful city of Leeds.
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Sean Ninan
3 months
There are *some* patients who present to hospital with a very clear history of dementia who should just be diagnosed.
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British Geriatrics Society
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Services need to consider how best to identify and diagnose cognitive impairment/dementia at the time of admission for fragility fractures #BGSconf
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Sean Ninan
3 years
Give me strength. The strength to fight for rehabilitation for older people, the courage to address when medical care won’t work, and the wisdom to know the difference
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Sean Ninan
3 years
We don’t need to bring back nonagerian care home residents for follow up chest x-rays every time. Are you actually worried about cancer? Are they? This is not the population to enforce screening on
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Sean Ninan
4 years
How many geriatricians think a blood pressure of 120 is “good” for severely frail older people in last couple of years of life? Of course it depends but we are wedded to a model for younger people. “Allow BP 160-170” is something I often write as a manager plan esp if falls
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shibley
4 years
Older people remain on blood pressure agents despite being hypotensive resulting in increased mortality and hospital admission
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Sean Ninan
3 years
They tried to make me go to rehab, I said Yes, ideally in my own home, to judge my "rehab potential" But if not, a rehab bed to roam, with CGA credentials Not a night assessment in an enhanced care bay Or a one way ticket in D2A (Unfinished)
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Sean Ninan
3 years
Older person comes in with fall, raised inflammatory markers and consolidation on the x-ray. Diagnosis - fall secondary to sarcopenia. New words have been learned but old failings remain. We have work to do.
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Sean Ninan
1 year
Big plans @LeedsHospitals to prevent and manage delirium over the next couple of years. We need to spot it when it's there, stop it before it starts, and sort it either way. #WDAD2023
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Sean Ninan
1 year
I'd like to work in a CGA clinic called The Older People's MOT (multiple occupations team?)
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Sean Ninan
3 years
Healthcare staff reading the cricket furore and being thankful that it doesn’t happen where they work should start paying attention to how the nurse with an African accent and the junior doctor with a headscarf are treated. Time to open our eyes, ears and mouths.
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Sean Ninan
3 months
If there’s one thing that all hospital staff should do when looking after older people with frailty, it’s detecting, preventing and managing delirium.
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Sean Ninan
1 year
Fancy learning about frailty and frailty syndromes with me, @gurjit_chhokar and a programme developed by @EileenBurns13 @jimeccles @GillPower5 @CarersLeeds and more? Come to our pilot education day if you are a health or social care professional in leeds.
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Sean Ninan
10 years
I love this. 311 meds stopped in 64 patients. 84% improved health. Be brave and be sensible. Stop unnecessary meds. http://t.co/CFxcGqxeNK
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