Arteta is spot on. Allowing that goal was embarrassing. Ok - ball might not have been out but it’s a clear push on Gabriel & Joelinton handles the ball before you can argue whether Gordon is offside. So 2 nailed on reasons to disallow it.
I can’t think of a better argument for an independent time-keeper than Liverpool’s goal in the third half last night. Pope was on the floor 90 seconds in the 5 added. So the whistle should’ve gone at 96.30. Liverpool scored in the 98th minute. 🤷♂️🤷♂️.
I hope in this new era of transparency PGMOL admit they’ve got that wrong. Rashford impacts play by being where he is. Akanji stops. Rashford protects the ball. It’s off-side. It’s nonsense to say he didn’t touch the ball. City should be rightly furious.
It’s wrong to say Martial’s dive didn’t matter. It does matter. He keeps doing it & keeps getting away with it. He’ll do it again & again until someone puts a stop to his nonsense. It’s cheating. I’m pleased Rashford has stopped doing it - but Fernandes has to be watched closely
With every game that passes I’m reminded of what a remarkable job Arsene Wenger did at Arsenal - & he was hounded out after 3 FA Cup wins in four years. Be careful what you wish for….
FA have asked for observations from Arteta. Here are mine - he’s well within his rights to question the absurdity of the decision at Newcastle. We want to hear what coaches really think. He’s also right on ref standards. They’ve never been so low. Why are we scared of the truth?
I didn’t realise Gabby Agbonlahor was on the radio. His broadcasting career is obviously as insignificant as his playing career. Described to me today by a Villa staff member as ‘the most unprofessional he’d ever worked with’. Apps 351. Gls 76. Is he still at Watford?
Why is this allowed every week
@FA_PGMOL
? Arteta has been jumping up & down all game - way outside his technical area. Potter is in his & 4th is watching. Do something about this man.
That’s a pen. He’s moved his arm to it - & the ball was going to Sterling - it’s a pen - but there’s no way they were going to overturn that decision - not in this fixture. Honestly - what is the point of VR? It’s not fit for purpose.
I think Kate Abdo is a top pro. I’ve no idea what Carragher is insinuating but he crossed the line again. How many more times? That show is like so many more these days - too ‘pally’. It was an accident waiting to happen. Abdo deserves much better.
Everton were robbed twice there. It’s a pen for the challenge on Sigurdsson even before the alleged off-side - which it couldn’t have been. How was he ‘interfering’ with de Gea? He was on the floor. Our officiating is now so so poor.
PGMOL tell us that that they would’ve had ‘no complaints’ had Attwell given Everton a penalty Anfield Rd end. So my question is ‘why didn’t they ask the ref to go and look at it - & make his own mind up’? It was a pen. That the match day centre make the decisions is madness.
Another really bad day for VAR. West Ham were robbed. It was a shocking decision that cost them an equaliser. Newcastle should have a pen or their goal should stand & I’ll remain convinced Everton could’ve had a winner. The reasoning will be interesting.
There are times when I hate the world - hate the injustice of it all. Right now is one of those times. Why? Why? Ray was one of the nicest guys ever to walk the planet. I loved that guy. Thoughts with everybody in the Wilkins family. RIP my friend. 💙
It’s scary. They’ve had two weeks to identify a ‘clear and obvious’ push yet Howard Webb &
@PGMOL
still can’t see it? 🤷♂️. What’s the point of his show? Telling us they were correct doesn’t make it so. Stop trying to be a tv star star Howard & address the shambles
Now that Everton & Forest have been dealt with it’s time to come to a decision on Manchester City - for the good of football. While they continue to run from perceived justice everything they win is tainted. Surely they want to remove that allegation? Settle the matter - now.
The last two Scousers - Big Ron & Ron Saunders didn’t do too badly
@AVFCOfficial
- good luck Steven - but I’m sorry he appears to have disappeared like a thief in the night from
@RangersFC
I think their fans deserved better.
This is beyond a joke. That’s 30 goals VR has ruled out this season - 20 of them for an arm pit - a toe - or an oversized nose being offside. It’s killing our game. We pay to see goals. We want entertainment & grey areas. Mike Riley has to go let someone else sort this mess out
I’ve lost too many friends in recent years but the one I still miss the most is this little fella. There aren’t too many days pass that I don’t hear myself mimicking him. Love ya to bits young chappie. 💙
I thought Darren England was spot on yesterday. It was a nailed on pen at City for Fulham. So what was VAR thinking at Spurs? Why the disparity? We need consistency. Who was operating VAR? Oh - Darren England. 😂🤷♂️.
We ended as we started with VAR dropping a b*****k. Kane handled the ball before Spurs’ 3rd. It cost Arsenal Europe & maybe Leicester CL. We’re told the h/b didn’t lead directly to a goal. Yes it did. It was a disgraceful decision. How can this keep happening?
Can someone explain this to me please? Anthony Taylor is relegated to the C’ship for a week - gives another shocking pen - this time against Cov at Preston - then is immediately promoted back to PL for City v Chelsea - a couple of miles from his home. 🤷♂️.
Well said
@rioferdy5
👏👏. If Rafa loves Newcastle as he says - spend some of his own money. He’s got enough. Management is about teamwork - why should it always be Ashley? Buy it. It’s still for sale. They’re in the bottom 3 & Rafa is responsible. He picks the team.
A great night for England - but anyone that doesn’t condemn Sterling for his dive is kidding themselves. Denmark deserved better. VAR failed the game tonight. Or does it suit UEFA to have England in the final? We must be allowed to listen to VAR/ref convos.
I don’t like goals being disallowed for stray toe nails & arm pits - but it’s what we’ve been doing all season - so on that basis how did VAR miss this? 🤷♂️
Rafa Benitez has now spent £145m in 3 years at Newcastle. In the same period Pochettino has spent £179m at Spurs - and guided them into the top 3 in each of the last 3 seasons. 🤷♂️
I wonder if anyone at Chelsea has considered Emma Hayes for the vacancy running the men’s team? Why not? She knows the club as well as anyone. Her coaching record is impeccable. After the Lionesses success this summer what a statement it would be.
PL matchday centre caught out again. When we asked they insisted Saka was onside. We knew he wasn’t. Now they say there was a ‘loophole’. Well - not really. He was simply offside. Bukayo Saka's opener for Arsenal was allowed because of a VAR loophole
Are we surprised? Howard Webb has lost all credibility now. Why not just admit that this was a foul? Try reading law 12 Howard. No-one
@FA_PGMOL
has got the bollocks to take Michael Oliver on. That in itself is dangerous.
Wonderful news that UEFA have apologised for the mess in Paris & apparently started the process of ‘change’. As it turns out it was a good job Liverpool were in that final - their fans PREVENTED a disaster. Congrats to everybody that pushed back on the nonsense.
So Forest are allowed to hear the VAR audio - but we’re not? Why not? The sooner we have live access to what’s being said at the monitor the better. Behaviour like this adds to the conspiracy theories. Just be honest - and open.
We know you did Mike. We all knew at the time. Why didn’t you? And it’s taken 4 days to come up with this. 🤷♂️. So will the FA act now & press retrospective charges?
Jesse Lingard is ‘bang ordinary’ to occasionally ‘good’ in a decent team - which Utd are not and he couldn’t get a starting place there. It’ll be interesting to see how he goes in a struggling side. How on earth can he choose Forest over West Ham? 💰
I just can’t see how
@HarryMaguire93
is supposed to get a fair trial in a Greek court with 12 hours to prepare a defence - & to make matters worse the proceedings are all in a foreign tongue to him. Maguire is not the type to play the ‘big time’ card. This trial is a sham.
What on earth are they doing? This isn’t funny anymore. John Brooks can see that - but not the challenge on Gravenberch? Really? I’m losing the will to watch football
Proud of you boys
@Coventry_City
And all you guys who turned Wembley Sky Blue. Congrats to Utd. Sadly the technology just ruined one of the greatest Cup stories of all time at a time when the FA Cup desperately needed one
I’m always told papers only report what’s in the ‘public interest’. In whose ‘interest’ is this? The family only buried Ray yesterday. There’s a memorial this week. Please. Have some respect.
Do we think the charges levelled at City are in any way comparable to/worse than those that saw Rangers relegated to the bottom tier of Scottish football - without due process? Good to know their CL titles are safe though. 😂😂
On a serious note - reports coming out of Greece suggest
@HarryMaguire93
was simply trying to protect his little sister after she was attacked by a man in a taxi queue. Any proper person would do that. Memes are funny but H is a great lad & everyone in football knows that.
Why don’t they tell us who makes these ridiculous decisions? Hair pulling is violent conduct. It’s covered in law 12 fouls & misconduct It should’ve been red on the day but having missed it retrospective action should follow. What a mess we’re in if not.
I agree that Man U fans should ‘applaud & celebrate’ Paul Pogba. Applaud & celebrate all summer that he won’t be there when we ko again in August. He personifies what is wrong with that great club.
So having been told clearly by IFAB that they are operating VAR incorrectly the PGMOL say they don’t want to make changes to the way they operate mid-season because it would affect the ‘integrity’ of the competition. Too late guys you’ve already done that.
Oh Martin. Still working? Yep ✅ Still working - for the biggest sports broadcaster in the world. ✅ No-one listening? What are you all talking about then? Arteta is an embarrassment to a classy football club - as you. often were. 🤡
😡 “Arteta is not a clown!”
👀 “Richard Keys? Is he still working?”
🤫 “He’s just trying to create a headline because he’s the other side of the world and no one is really listening,”
Martin Keown goes in on Richard Keys for his criticism of
#AFC
’s Arteta! 😳
In conclusion - the PL & the PGMOL had a huge chance today to prove that we could trust VR - & they blew it. If the events at Anfield had occurred in a match between Norwich & Watford a pen is given & the goal is ruled out. That game was too big to cause disruption to.
‘Just go and get Harry Kane from Tottenham’. Are you sure Roy? Why on earth would Kane leave Spurs - consistent top 4 finishers - for Old Trafford? Those days are over. Long gone.
What sort of nonsense is this? It borders on racism. The England coach should be the best person available England should not hide behind closed borders & minds. Jamie Carragher: The England manager should ALWAYS be English
Kompany is a lucky boy. He gets away with that kind of thing time and again. Hate to say it - but did Taylor hesitate because of his alleged allegiance? I simply don’t understand why he’s given games involving the Manchester clubs.
If Utd want to continue to be seen as the biggest club in the world surely they’ve got to get this deal for Harry Maguire done? You’re signing a captain. A leader of the next generation. England’s best centre half. Pay the money. Stop playing games. Make a statement.
Scary times at Sky. Everything evolves. Or is it because the guys are male pale & stale? We all want genuine diversity - but I will only believe Sky are serious when their male pale & stale management structure changes - top to bottom - or its just cosmetic.
Liverpool’s first pen yesterday should never have been given. Michael Oliver was wrong in law - and VAR should’ve picked it up. We’ll explain today. Join us
#beINSPORTS
I fail to see what Julian Nagelsmann knows that Frank Lampard doesn’t. If it’s a straight choice between the two I’d go with the legend that knows Chelsea inside out - not someone who might have a more impressive power-point display but knows nothing about the club or our league.
That’s a disgrace. Why leave those decisions to VAR? That’s a pen a pen a pen all day long. How on earth is that not given? Go and take a look ref & make your own mind up - not be told by VAR - & we want to hear the conversation at the monitor.