There is no end to the adversary’s deceptions. Please be prepared. Never take counsel from those who do not believe. -
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Our kids are married and active LDS. We don’t talk with them about why we left - unless they ask. This week a daughter’s been upset about conference’s treatment of the LGBTQ community and heavenly mother. If/when my kids leave, it will be on the church.
Todd Christofferson tells a story oblivious to the inevitable question: “Why didn’t the husband/sons iron their own shirts?”
My wife told me this talk was later used in a RS message. Was the topic “Suffer in silence”?
My wife reminded me we didn’t buy shoes for our kids when they were young so we could pay tithing to a church that hoarded the money. I’d call that recklessly wasted.
The Church has a lot of money bc they’ve been prudent stewards for 150+ years. Evidence proves them to be exceptionally careful, nothing recklessly wasted or spent on self-indulgence. It’s used for public good. So critics must stick to the script that merely having money is evil.
Abuse constitutes the influence of the adversary. It is a grievous sin. As President of the Church, I affirm the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ on this issue. Let me be perfectly clear: any kind of abuse of women, children, or anyone is an abomination to the Lord.
At a meeting Saturday with local Church leaders in Chicago, President Dallin H. Oaks clarified why The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints supported the religious freedom protections in the new United States Respect for Marriage Act.
At the next to last Relief Society meeting my wife attended the topic was “Preparedness.” When asked for examples, she suggested getting an education. Silence ensued. Apparently, the correct answer was canning.
Managers for the LDS church’s shell funds “were selected because they had common names and a limited presence on social media, and were therefore less likely to be publicly connected to Ensign Peak or the Church.”
I don’t know if the Cedar City teens in black face are LDS and I’ve not made that claim. What I do know is there is a contingent of LDS Twitter in my mentions defending or “what-abouting” their actions.
Saving the Church money by cleaning the buildings each weekend is also “exploitation” by this definition.
These people are not against exploitation. They are against community. They hate society and civilization. They would rather you be alone and miserable than be held to any
PSA to Mormons who insist on turning funerals into missionary lessons to nonmembers and “sad-heaven” injunctions to those of us that have left - its offensive.
A BYU student/ex-boyfriend was CONVICTED for threatening and stalking my daughter. BUT while the BYU police were completing the investigation, the Honor Code Office called HER and asked if there was anything SHE DID to provoke him.
For many years, this LDS child sexual abuse survivor didn’t understand why she was never assigned to work with children.
Then she found out that when she had reported her father’s abuse in the 1980s, her own membership record had had an “annotation” mark placed.
That was why.
These youth have significantly altered the course of their life. While I have some speculative ideas, I still wonder why they felt emboldened to do this.
So the ward EQ president happened by when my wife was dealing with the snow and said she’d “look prettier if she’d smile” and the neighborhood got to hear a few words typically not heard in church. What is it with old men?
A former therapist in Utah who is accused of sexually abusing his patients during sessions was charged Monday with 10 felonies in connection with two men’s reports.
A new Mormon temple in Idaho is 71,125 square feet. Its limestone flooring was quarried in Bethlehem and wood for its doors was imported from the Congo. It cost $69 million to construct—and is just one small part of a global spending spree.
“Elder Hamilton encouraged the audience to substitute the words ‘the Church’ for the word ‘Savior’ in those sentences because it puts a different perspective on things when one says they disagree with the Savior.”
A BYU student/ex-boyfriend was CONVICTED for threatening and stalking my daughter. BUT while the police were completing the investigation, the HCO called HER and asked if there was anything SHE DID to provoke him.
BYU and The Tribune spent 5 years entangled in open records litigation over police records that were misused during Honor Code investigations. We resolved the dispute earlier this year. Reporting on documents
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Spouse and I played poker last night with 18 other friends. With the exception of one active member all are ExMos. More than half have LGBTQ children.
Anecdotally it appears the LDS treatment of LGBTQ is a huge factor for families leaving the LDS church.
The latest episode of Under the Banner of Heaven hit us hard. My wife said “You were manipulative like them” referring to JS the stake president and the general patriarchy. And I was. We are both in a better place now but it took too much time to get here.
Mormons showing up in the timeline thinking their lived experience is the only true version of Mormonism so if UtBoH doesn’t reflect what they experienced, it doesn’t really reflect Mormonism - is an interesting take for people in a church that lists 16 million members.
“…Emma’s disappearance from LDS history was so total that Linda says when she and Valeen co-authored an article about her for the Ensign in 1979, it was the first writing about her to appear in any official church publication in 113 years”
Here’s the difference between you and me, cousin:
You view our pioneer grandmothers as victims.
I view them as gods.
They earned their coming exaltation, and they’ll get their reward.
These women built the world for us.
And they deserve our respect. Not our pity.
“Of the 33 speakers in the five sessions, only two were women.”
Had active LDS family over last night. One daughter said she had a wonderful weekend, specifically mentioned she did not listen to a single session. Another watched and said a talk upset her (I don’t know which.)
The LDS church didn’t use to teach members to prioritize tithing over food. Orson Hyde in 1847: "If it requires all a man can earn to support himself and family, he is not tithed at all"
With children out of school and eating more at home, food pantries across Utah are reporting a jump in demand, but at the same time, food donations have dropped off.
Attended an LDS baptism for an 8 year old. One speaker spoke about how the HG prompted her to take a different path - someone else took her original path and was raped. A second speaker spoke on the “woman taken in adultery” (John 7).
Welcome into the LDS church kid. 😬
The thing is, LDS doctrine is clear that polygamy is sanctioned by God, selectively practiced in this life, but definitely practiced in heaven. So when LDS members point fingers at other polygamous Mormon sects and state "That's not us" what they're saying is "That's not us YET"
16 year old Ina Coolbrith, daughter of Joseph Smith’s brother Don Carlos. Her mother, Agnes, married Joseph as a plural wife in 1842 after Don Carlos died.
Bellies the apologetic attitude that girls marrying older men was considered normal.
Historically, Mormon women were divided on polygamy. Some hated it, while others loved it and believed it a higher form of matrimony. Hear some in their own words.
“But if revelation has changed the core meaning of marriage and sex in the past, it is dishonest to say that God’s commandments about marriage and sex ‘never change.’”
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“Faculty members are being let go from Brigham Young University, and an opaque new office of the LDS church is apparently calling the shots. A common thread is LGBTQ issues.”
Out of 33 speakers at last week's LDS Conference only 2 were women. What message does that send about the importance of women's voices in the male-dominated faith?
“I'd be happy to clean the church if the church explains why it didn't come out in support of HB 222, which would provide breakfast to kids at school if they didn't get it at home.”
Polygamy will always be relevant to Mormon discourse as long as D&C 132 is canon and LDS doctrine stipulates eternal polygamy is practiced in heaven. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous.
Holland empathetically read a letter from a member “betrayed” by the fact that views other than their own exist as a set up to betray a BYU alum who let people know he exists.
People like me donated a lot of money and time to the LDS church Mr Boyd. Before the 2019 disclosure of the church’s vast wealth, the statements below were all the church said about it. The church’s dishonesty is astounding and newsworthy.
"The media’s unusual and enduring fascination with Latter-day Saint finances has extended over the better part of a century,"
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“Did you grow up thinking Emma Smith was Joseph’s true love and a good woman or are you old?”
Quote from a protected account, so I’ll keep it anonymous, but it reveals an aspect of how the LDS church changes the presentation of its history to members.
Practical Swedish translators shortened the length of the Book of Mormon 50% by using an asterisk every place the English version had “and it came to pass.”
(1978 edition shown)
OMG!! Bishop/SP counseled a sexual abuse victim to “forgive… and forget” her abuser. They referred her to an UNLICENSED family counselor who gave the same counsel. Parents took her to another counselor who reported the sexual abuse to the police.
In 2021 the LDS church received an estimated $33 billion in revenue and put 80% of it into its investment fund and about 2.7% ($900 Million) towards humanitarian causes.
It only takes a little bit of diligent searching to dispel all anti-LDS rhetoric.
I hope you take the time to read what I have to say, because I have fully investigated these things, and you can find sources corroborating what I say, if you but take a moment to know for
“However, studying the church’s history reveals that the government has done more to alleviate poverty and vault LDS members into positions of financial security than the church’s welfare system.”
Speaking to Church-endorsed chaplains, Brother Ahmad Corbitt taught how activism against the Church can undermine the doctrine of Christ and mislead valiant souls.
“None of the characters on the papyrus fragments mentioned Abraham's name or any of the events recorded in the book of Abraham.”
This is still a big deal.
The church just posted an article about how we should stop relying on external resources for mental health and rely on the church instead. If you wanted to know if it was a cult
BREAKING: A Utah man who police say killed his wife, her mother and their five children before turning the gun on himself had been investigated two years prior for child abuse, but local police and prosecutors decided not to criminally charge him.
Brigham Young was the second President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the colonizer and builder of a great commonwealth of Latter-day Saints in the American West, and a devoted husband and father.
Wow. In 1950, while still married to his living wife, Flora, Ezra Taft Benson was sealed in marriage to his recently deceased cousin, Eva Amanda Benson, demonstrating the importance of the doctrine of polygamy halfway through the 20th century in the LDS church.
When will we stop saying this. It simply isn't true. The author explains that top leadership receives a stipend. So... Apostles aren't ministry? Also... A stipend means they get paid. The second statement is stated as fact, when in actuality... We don't know. We have no idea.
I’m so old, I remember when the SEC fined the LDS church and its wholly owned subsidiary, Ensign Peak Advisors, for hiding its multi billion portfolio. The LDS church, unlike many churches, still doesn’t open its financial books for inspection by its general membership.
At the end of this segment is Christopher Waddell, First Counselor in the LDS church’s Presiding Bishopric. His bio says he was the VP of Investments for Merrill Lynch.
He can’t claim ignorance for signing off on the church’s fraudulent SEC filing.
A whistleblower says the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ investment firm has over $100 billion – more than any religious fund in America. Instead of doing good, the church is bending the law, said a whistleblower. 60 Minutes reports, Sunday.
Early LDS Patriarchs blessed some people with the power of teleportation, including travel to other planets.
From Gregrory Prince's "Power from on High":
The following professors in the JFSB proudly fly the 🏳️🌈pride🏳️🌈 flag outside their offices.
Amber Jensen
Charlotte Stanford
Heather Belnap
Marlene Esplin
Jordan Jones
Stephen Bay
Ashley Gibby
Rebecca Schweinitz
Kirk Larsen
Do you think flying the pride flag is acceptable at
Grandson turns 12 in November. So he’s an 11 year old Deacon now. My daughter is frustrated because a YM leader just told her his son is acting too immature. No sh*t Sherlock.
In 1857 the Mountain Meadows massacre occurred - about 40 miles Southwest of present day Enoch, UT. John Lee, the only person convicted for the massacre of 120 men, women, and children, was excommunicated.
In 1961 the LDS church reinstated his membership and former blessings.
It appears ANY record of Packer’s Oct 2nd 1976 conference talk, To Young Men Only, has been completely wiped from the LDS church’s publicly accessible digital repositories. It’s one thing to disavow a talk, which the church has not done, and another to pretend it never happened.
Towards the end of Boyd Packer’s infamous “Little Factory” talk is him condoning violence towards gay men. The talk was widely distributed among the YM then but it now appears to have been scrubbed from the LDS conference talks site without apology or comment.
The problem with church visits is the assumption there is something wrong with you if you choose to leave. So visits tend to be about fixing "your problem.” When my wife left, the RS president sent her a text along the lines, "No matter what you've done, we still love you"
I remember when the Mormon church sent the missionaries after I became a ward project and they told me this exact thing.
Then I told them I'd explain my new perspective using only church sources and they sat there as I showed them the problems and they had zero answers for them.
This stunning, anonymous account, from a self-identified LDS bishop, about his experience with a church attorney who did not want him to report child sexual abuse.
“I lost my belief that the church cares about the well-being [of] its members during the time I was a bishop.”
When the topic of LDS clergy privilege pops up, I think of Richard W Miller, the first FBI agent charged & convicted of espionage and an excommunicated Mormon whose supervisory chain included an LDS bishop he “confessed” to that led to his arrest:
Here’s how TikTok and other social media apps are providing younger generations with the information they need to make more informed decisions about their religious beliefs.
People leave the LDS church because it isn’t what it claims. When leaders state people leave because they want to sin - it sets members up to say stupid things:
One of my brothers sent me a conference quote today via text message and followed it up with "I know there's still good in you." I mean, yeah. Just as much as there was before. Did you think the good got sucked out of me or something? What a strange thing to tell someone.
We don’t believe the church is what it claims. But this realization can be hard on marriages. That’s why we don’t initiate the discussion with them. But we’ll be there for them if they ask questions and we’ll help them work through it.