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Cofounder & CTO at @BitwiseInvest

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@hongkim__
Hong Kim
2 years
we need more ppl like @zachxbt that highlight bad faith actors early. a proposal for nouns to spend 100 ETH to fund and highlight their work:
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Hong Kim
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in the past two days, our bitcoin etf received 998,085 sats (~$419) across 35 utxos its negligible compared to the AUM (~$511 million as of yesterday) but those sats are added to NAV and accrue to the benefit of shareholders if any sats are sent to us from ofac sanctioned…
@Leishman
Alexander Leishman 🇺🇸
4 months
Somebody just sent 6969 sats to the Bitwise ETF 😂 It’s now the only over collateralized ETF.
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Hong Kim
2 years
Wrote out my thoughts around why I think the Nouns' issuance mechanism (continuous auction) is so significant:
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Hong Kim
2 months
we put care into designing bitwise’s bitcoin etf donation mechanism features: - *no strings attached* donations - to established non profit orgs rather than individuals to be further arm’s length from devs - three orgs (opensats, brink, hrf) rather than one to reduce bias and…
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Hong Kim
4 months
we hear you that this should be a taproot address and it’s painful that it’s still not we’re pushing hard for an upgrade with our custodian and will report back
@BitwiseInvest
Bitwise
4 months
Announcement: Today the Bitwise Bitcoin ETF (BITB) becomes the first U.S. bitcoin ETF to publish the bitcoin addresses of its holdings. Now anyone can verify BITB's holdings and flows directly on the blockchain. Onchain transparency is core to Bitcoin's ethos. We're proud to…
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4 months
needless to say, i'm proud of this.
@BitwiseInvest
Bitwise
4 months
Announcement: Today the Bitwise Bitcoin ETF (BITB) becomes the first U.S. bitcoin ETF to publish the bitcoin addresses of its holdings. Now anyone can verify BITB's holdings and flows directly on the blockchain. Onchain transparency is core to Bitcoin's ethos. We're proud to…
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@hongkim__
Hong Kim
6 months
vitalik asking about nouns in the farcaster nouns channel!
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Hong Kim
1 year
okay, let's see if eth staking at home is *actually* something you can get done in a saturday afternoon. hardware setup: - intel nuc 11 - samsung 2TB NVMe SSD - samsung 32GB DDR4 RAM going to attempt setup with @DAppNode . might ask for some help @ethStaker
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Hong Kim
3 months
if any of your friends are asking for which bitcoin etf to buy today, please consider bitwise! notable features: - lowest fee amongst the four $1B+ AUM ones (20 bps) - 10% of profits donated to bitcoin devs - only one to publish bitcoin addresses - we really care [BITB…
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Hong Kim
4 months
proud of this often more transparency invites more criticism (we got dunked for our custody address format being legacy), but you just work through it appreciate coinbase for being fast here
@BitwiseInvest
Bitwise
4 months
Announcement: Today the Bitwise Bitcoin ETF’s ($BITB) bitcoin addresses at Coinbase Custody, the qualified custodian of BITB’s holdings, have been upgraded from P2PKH to native SegWit P2WPKH. Though both versions are time-tested and secure, P2WPKH is a widely utilized…
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Hong Kim
2 years
Decentralized systems can be built by centralized execution. Bitcoin was not designed by committee.
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Hong Kim
3 months
update: coinbase custody now has the ability to send to taproot addresses! not rolled out to the retail coinbase app yet but soon. once coinbase graduates from this list then it's really just binance we need to get onboard? (source: )
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Hong Kim
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kind of wild to read but bitwise's correlation analysis stood the full test of the SEC's review. no holes to poke.
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@BitwiseInvest
Bitwise
2 months
Bitwise is publishing a new correlation analysis today as part of its new spot Ethereum ETF filing. This is the first ETH correlation analysis to replicate the specific methodology used by the SEC in their evaluation of bitcoin, and the results are encouraging. The correlation…
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Hong Kim
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competition is fierce but we’ve really left it all on the field our etf so far has: - the lowest fee (0.20%) - the largest seed ($200M) - the highest donation to open source devs (10% of profits) - the most viral tv ad so proud of the bitwise team and excited for tomorrow
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1 year
I feel like most of the binance solvency discussion focused on deposits / withdrawals is missing the point. the main risk is around BNB lighting up on fire. binance allows customers to put on leveraged positions collateralized on BNB, an asset they can't liquidate in a crisis.
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Hong Kim
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I fundamentally disagree with the view that nouns’ spending / execution so far hasn’t been successful what NFT project had converted ~$40M of spend to more cultural relevance and onchain innovation?
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Hong Kim
1 year
so.. @ourZORA just delegated their 20 nouns to me this message from @js_horne last night proposing the delegation includes some context
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Hong Kim
5 months
my view right now
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Hong Kim
1 year
nouns should move some of its staked eth position from lido to rocket pool, no?
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Hong Kim
4 months
@peterktodd @BitMEXResearch will raise this to the coinbase custody team. they definitely have an offchain multisig model but it being provable onchain is a good point.
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Hong Kim
1 year
nouns needs private voting desperately imo. delegates are mostly builders that have little incentive to vote against any prop. large holders (whales, nounders, sub daos) have a hard time being the bad person/group saying no. any zk teams out there willing to work on this?
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Hong Kim
1 year
despite all the noise we should never forget to tend to our base layer: ethereum @ultrasoundmoney 's mev relay saved ethereum from a OFAC censorship dystopia and nouns should recognize that and support them by donating 100 ETH. a new nouns prop by me:
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Hong Kim
2 years
Digital objects with a CC0 (Creative Commons Zero; "no rights reserved") license is a public good. In that sense, Nouns has always been an experiment in scaling public goods production, starting with IP and NFT related infra but ending somewhere unknown.
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@hongkim__
Hong Kim
10 months
. @cdixon joins for season 3 👏👏
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Hong Kim
2 years
@nounsdao 's "business model" is akin to that of a musician releasing their music for free on SoundCloud to maximize ppl enjoying their music while monetizing only the diehard fans with disposable income through pricey concert tickets.
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@hongkim__
Hong Kim
4 months
the first yard. incredibly grateful for our clients who entrusted us with their bitcoin investment. we’re here for the long haul. bitcoin just getting started.
@BitwiseInvest
Bitwise
4 months
Today, $BITB crossed $1B in AUM. To our investors: Thank you. We're thrilled for what's ahead. - Low-cost 0.20% gross expense ratio - 10% donation of profits to developers - 1st U.S. BTC ETF to publish address of holdings BITB disclosures & prospectus:
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@hongkim__
Hong Kim
9 months
NOUNS GARDEN proposal by me & @cryptoseneca to restart prop house open rounds main idea is to elect a representative voting body to mitigate the past issues we've faced with prop house open rounds put onchain as "candidate" prop. feedback welcome! (link in next tweet)
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Hong Kim
4 months
and yes utxos will be consolidated when the address rotates after a spend tx
@Leishman
Alexander Leishman 🇺🇸
4 months
@hongkim__ @BitMEXResearch What if there a lot of UTXOs at an address? Does Coinbase consolidate all of them in multiple transactions to the new address when a withdrawal happens?
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Hong Kim
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talking to @dwr (founder of farcaster) in an hour! farcaster is a decentralized social network that has grown 20x in sustained DAU this year it has: - 50k DAU - ethereum addresses tied to each user - "frames" that enable onchain actions in-app - "channels" that encode…
@BitwiseInvest
Bitwise
23 days
Set a reminder to join our upcoming Space with Dan Romero ( @dwr ), the creator behind Farcaster ( @farcaster_xyz ).
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@hongkim__
Hong Kim
2 years
Looking back at what I wrote in the @nounsdao discord when I first bought my noun ( #40 ) three months ago. It still very much rings true to me.
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@hongkim__
Hong Kim
3 months
another big inflow day for bitb. we’re just getting started 💪
@FarsideUK
Farside Investors
3 months
Bitcoin ETF Daily Flow - auto Tweet Bitwise US$ Flow: 90.9 million 10% of profits from this product go to Bitcoin developers For all the data and disclaimers visit:
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Hong Kim
2 years
. @farcaster_xyz has the most crypto native yet normal consumer app-ish UX I've ever experienced 👏👏
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Hong Kim
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@Pledditor @vaneck_us @BitwiseInvest we’re still committed. nothing has changed on our end.
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Hong Kim
2 years
After Nouns, there was Nouns Public 👇
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Hong Kim
2 years
nouns is an infinite public art & software movement
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Hong Kim
11 months
the pudgy prop has gotten me learning more about pudgy penguins and the team behind it 😅 I kinda dig the story. seems like there was originally a rug and then @LucaNetz and team (from the community) bought it out and started building. while not…
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@hongkim__
Hong Kim
1 year
decided to go to ETH denver! ended up feeling there's a decent number of ppl going that I consider good friends whom I haven't had a chance to connect in person yet. please reach out if you're also going and you think we should hang 🙏
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Hong Kim
1 year
you love to see it @nounsesports 👏👏 kind of wild to see nouns taken seriously in these different contexts
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Hong Kim
1 year
you can launch a nouns fork with @nounsbuilder , run funding through @nounsprophouse , a delegate program through @nounsagora , and voting through @houseofnouns . all noun funded *open source* projects. not obvious yet but nouns is slowly rebuilding the whole crypto gov stack.
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Hong Kim
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so happy to see this new legal defense fund launched by @btcpolicyorg this week we're increasingly winning the regulatory / political war but peer-to-peer rights are under attack (e.g. tornado cash, samourai wallet) and we need to fund its defense
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Hong Kim
1 year
nouns could benefit from more deep thinkers / writers. it's not enough to just choose the right implementation or build the right tool, the nouns public needs to understand and make sense of it. big civic issues that need more thought: - how to protect minority rights
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1 year
fiscal conservatives seem to be the majority in nouns governance these days. a transition of power of sorts. i’ve forever been in the camp of “we have a spending problem. we’re not spending enough!” so i’m struggling a bit with the current energy but i’m still here 🙏
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Hong Kim
1 year
site to track noggle graffiti blocks is now live: (by @ripe0x and @gregskril ) 0.48% of all proposed blocks in the past 7 days had noggles in them! would appreciate if ppl could sleuth through the addresses and see if they notice non-solo stakers
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Hong Kim
1 year
onchain is the new online.
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Hong Kim
9 months
just recorded a 1hr podcast about the nouns fork with @chaserchapman which is expected to come out tomorrow in time for the actual fork! all I promise is that it has passion —
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Hong Kim
4 months
@MichaelJayDFS once it gets included in the NAV, a part of it actually does find its way to the core devs over time!
@BitwiseInvest
Bitwise
5 months
Bitwise will donate 10% of the profits of the Bitwise Bitcoin ETF (ticker: BITB) to bitcoin open-source development. Recipient orgs: - @BitcoinBrink - @OpenSats - @HRF Bitcoin is important to the future. We're excited for $BITB to support its foundation 👇
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8 months
pretty wild that nouns esports dota team made it to the playoffs (top 16) in the international it has the biggest prize pool in esports and historically is one of the biggest tournaments by viewership the first playoff game is today!
@wykrhm
Wykrhm Reddy
8 months
The International 2023 Group Stage Phase Two — Playoffs Seeding Deciders. #TI12 #Dota2
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Hong Kim
2 years
@zachxbt the proposal itself:
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Hong Kim
1 year
prop house delegate round winner is... @JoelCares_ !! I read everyone's proposal & delegate statement carefully, but Joel's truly stood out: there's also no greater nouns fan out there. excited to vote with you 🙏
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Hong Kim
5 months
#1 in donation to devs and #1 in day one inflows 💪
@BitMEXResearch
BitMEX Research
5 months
Spot ETF Day 1 Flows - UPDATE Bitwise and Ark numbers now confirmed by Bloomberg. Bitwise still in the lead! The Bitcoin Dev supporting provider is leading! $720m of reported day 1 inflow No GBTC data yet
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Hong Kim
1 year
we need some wholesome energy today. a new nouns prop by me, @gregskril , and @ripe0x proposing to permissionlessly incentivize *solo staking* through a ⌐◨-◨ block graffiti prize pool!
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@hongkim__
Hong Kim
11 months
nouns doing its part reducing lido dominance in liquid staking 🙏 also love that the large trade is happening fully onchain trustlessly via TWAMM
@0x70626a
0x70626a.eth
11 months
📢Happy to announce the first major treasury 💰diversification trade is happening on our TWAMM for @nounsdao ! If you're interested in participating in this seminal trade, you can LP here:
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Hong Kim
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BITB inflows for the past 4 days today +$18m yesterday +$2.5m monday +$17m friday +$20m BITB investors are just doing their thing unbothered by the volatility. you love to see it. [BITB disclosures & prospectus: ]
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Hong Kim
1 year
I feel like nouns voter base is starting to overfocus on looking for financial sustainability when our structural advantage is that we can fund non revenue generating projects that we can uniquely monetize by selling nfts.
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Hong Kim
11 months
the dustin yellen sculpture we funded back in april 2022 (prop 48) is complete! everyone should take a look (it's a beauty):
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Hong Kim
9 months
a discord server doesn't scale beyond a certain group size (b/c it's a synchronous group chat) but if your community tries to move its public conversation to crypto twitter, it will drown in all the other noise farcaster channels are a happy middle ground
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Hong Kim
1 year
to me nouns is most akin to a sports team where the "roster" is artists and engineers that are aspiring to build the best public art and software in the world that is our *culture* "voters" "delegates" "community" etc should all be viewed through the lens of fans and fandom
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1 year
the nounish family app icon is 🤌🤌🤌 whole app is incredibly well done. attention to detail, animation, UX, all top notch
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Hong Kim
4 months
hard to believe that these are *single day* flows into just our own fund. everyone under estimated how much capital is locked up in US brokerage accounts (both self-directed and managed) and how much ease of access matters
@HHorsley
Hunter Horsley
4 months
$126,500,000 of inflows into the Bitwise Bitcoin ETF ( $BITB) today. 2nd largest day since launch. Grateful to investors entrusting Bitwise to steward their investment. Excited about 2024 for Bitcoin investors. [BITB prospectus & disclosures: ]
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ppl shit on the bay area (and sf) all the time but the cryptography-forward anti-authoritarian resistance (cypherpunk movement) originated in berkeley/oakland. i’m always proud of that heritage. ny/la/miami could never compete.
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Hong Kim
1 year
very excited for optimism's upcoming bedrock upgrade. I gotta say, I feel proud that nouns (in big part) funded the development of their new governance portal which is @nounsagora this is the vision of nouns funding crypto public goods coming to life.
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Hong Kim
2 years
oh wow, so there's a successful nouns fork that doesn't have pfp art. FINALLY. the image is simply the color of the brand of the protocol it's trying to proliferate. the dao has no control over the codebase or protocol. it's a community ecosystem fund for a hyperstructure. wild.
@js_horne
jacob
2 years
🟪 Purple is a community effort from the Farcaster ecosystem. In a few days it has a +$20k treasury to: 1. Proliferate the Purple meme 2. Fund purple apps & devs 3. Contribute to protocol & tools All using its own simple, open and onchain Nouns DAO. Made with @nounsbuilder
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Hong Kim
2 years
Dogfooding my own advice to sell provenance of public goods: Minted my recent essay on @ourZORA and started a 3 day auction.
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Hong Kim
9 months
reminder that if you want to engage in public conversation about nouns, the farcaster nouns channel is currently where a lot of us hang out you don’t need a big following for your casts to be noticed there! also if you raise a genuine question there i’m very likely to reply 🙏
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@hongkim__
Hong Kim
9 months
fork is the ultimate crypto native conflict resolution mechanism. it allows two parties to work together with more tolerance knowing that fork exists as an option. nouns governance should have had it from the beginning and we’re better for having it now.
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Hong Kim
1 year
nouns feeling pretty unstoppable to me these days execution continuously scaling with constant-ish attention (at least from my end)
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Hong Kim
1 year
being wholesome and aligned with ethereum values leading to happy surprises like this. coinbase celebrating nouns.
@base
Base
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Base believes in decentralization and open source. We’re stoked to proliferate the @nounsdao meme for the latest evolution of ‘Base, Introduced.’ ⌐◨-◨ 36 hours left to mint at , powered by @ourZORA
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i’m committed to manifesting farcaster as the main public conversation channel for nouns in season 3. post-fork conversations are picking up there. join us!
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Hong Kim
1 year
Nouns love Ethereum
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Hong Kim
9 months
gotta love the underdog feeling everyone pontificating about why nouns failed is a vibe
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Hong Kim
1 year
oh I didn't even notice, but I got my first block proposed last week!
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Hong Kim
4 months
@derekmross being a daily active on nostr is one of my new years resolutions. got a bit side tracked with the etf launch but happening soon
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Hong Kim
2 years
What is Nounish? It's the crazy act of believing good will paid *up front* can be captured in the future without a contractual mechanism.
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Hong Kim
9 months
the fork is trading treasury size for more alignment and I say that's a great trade for the dao (from the very beginning, nouns never had any issue with not having enough eth to spend; it has always struggled much more with voter alignment)
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I was just thinking there should be a way to consume the nouns farcaster channel in a reddit like format... and then turns out it already exists! how cool is that. multi-client permissionless protocols FTW
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Hong Kim
4 years
Been a Genesis member from the very beginning. For some reason, it suddenly seems in vogue to shit on The Block but I clearly remember how refreshingly better they were compared to existing crypto media from Day 1.
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Hong Kim
2 years
Provenance is the new patent. h/t @js_horne
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Hong Kim
8 months
farcaster dms are low key the ethereum-based e2e encryption messaging app we’ve been waiting for. at least in my (nouns) world I can find most ppl and dm them there and they reply!
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Hong Kim
6 months
new tv ad from bitwise!
@BitwiseInvest
Bitwise
6 months
A word to the wise, from a man of few words. #bitcoinisinteresting
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Hong Kim
8 months
update: nouns is a top 3 channel on farcaster (if you're a nouns fan you should seriously join)
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Hong Kim
9 months
i’m committed to manifesting farcaster as the main public conversation channel for nouns in season 3. post-fork conversations are picking up there. join us!
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Hong Kim
9 months
thinking about hosting a nouns meetup in SF tomorrow celebrating fork day and the beginning of season 3 reply here or dm me if you're interested in joining!
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Hong Kim
1 year
hyperstructures (no fee forever, governance minimized infrastructure) sustainably funded by provenance value captured through NFTs this has ALWAYS been my nouns dream we're going to prove to the world it's possible and that it's the incentive compatible future we deserve
@punk4156
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nouns could build a no fee forever (NFF) uniswap or nft marketplace that rebates nfts instead of governance tokens. use the provenance of the dao to bootstrap liquidity and support infrastructure that extracts no value from users for its entire lifetime
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Hong Kim
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the magnitude and enticing economics of the fork also increases the significance (and provenance) of the act of staying non-forked nouns have an additional layer of meaning now 🙏
@jessepollak
Jesse Pollak (jesse.xyz) 🛡️
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I didn't fork my noun and I'm excited for the next season. that we *enabled a fork to happen* embodies the experimental, open culture of nouns and makes me so optimistic for the future. ⌐◨-◨
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sneak peak at different L2 characters being developed for the upcoming nouns x protocol guild animation by @thelinestudio the vibe differences are on point lol
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Hong Kim
1 year
crypto is about building systems that compete against (and are themselves resistant to being captured by) monopolistic control & extraction. bitcoin, ethereum, uniswap, farcaster, nouns, all of it. all of it that I think has a true crypto heart has this north star.
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Hong Kim
1 year
love to see non crypto ppl discuss a dao and kind of get it? to them it’s just a more transparent and permissionless team owner
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1 year
oh wow, prop house voting for the hack week rounds are kind of a ghost town. with low vote participation the rounds basically get decided by 2-3 whales (I'm including myself here). this feels like a problem.
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Hong Kim
1 year
if you enjoy dao drama, nouns offers it weekly. please join in on the fun.
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Hong Kim
1 year
changed my twitter handle from @hongkim__ to @noun40__ since that's increasingly what ppl remember me as (at least online). I've also come to enjoy the screen name more and more. ppl call me "40" and there's something clean about it that I like. =
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Hong Kim
1 year
I introduced bitwise eng to farcaster like two weeks ago? milo (who’s not even on twitter) is now fully converted, building farcaster clients over the weekend lol 😂
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Hong Kim
1 year
oh? trustless cross-chain ethereum state reads are in production now? does this mean that we can use the L1 nouns voter snapshots on L2 smart contracts trustlessly? design space just exploded I feel by @SuccinctLabs
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Hong Kim
1 year
the bazaar is only slower than the cathedral until it's not the chaotic nature of it all can turn into high throughput parallel execution when it works nouns just in the past 2 weeks: - short shorts festival - 'the rise of blus' movie pilot - nouns nyms all super high quality
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Hong Kim
1 year
for those who think @nounsbuilder hasn't been used for anything novel yet, purple is pioneering community funding for an open source protocol (farcaster). already raised >50 ETH.
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Hong Kim
1 year
let me try another analogy for nouns. nouns as the most forward thinking, public infrastructure focused, onchain city of our time. nouns as ONCHAIN ROME. (h/t @gremplin for the art below and @cryptoseneca for the original rome meme)
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Hong Kim
4 months
never thought i’d see the day bank lobbies go hard against the SEC asking for *checks notes* fair accounting practices for bitcoin
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Eric Balchunas
4 months
US banks, left off key bitcoin ETF roles, are pushing SEC to tweak guidance around holding digital assets. A bank trade gp coalition sent SEC letter asking them exclude ETFs from broad crypto umbrella. They want a piece of the action. I don't blame them, it isn't fair.…
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Hong Kim
1 year
I think it's time we have a nouns mobile app dedicated to just *voting*. if all it did was send me notifications on prop voting start / end nearing and allow a good prop reading + voting UX, I would be happy.
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Hong Kim
10 months
incredible to see nouns public infra (prop house) be used so directly by coinbase this is how nouns working to solve its own problems but keeping it all open source (public good) can really have an outsized impact on the broader crypto movement over time
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Base
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In partnership with @nounsprophouse , we’re distributing 100+ ETH in grants for those building and creating on Base this summer There are four rounds of Prop House grants: ① Onchain Summer (August 9 - 21): Make art, a website, or whatever you’re inspired to for Onchain Summer…
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Hong Kim
4 months
don’t know what led to the anomalous trading behavior today but we’re the white bar in this chart and we’re continuing to hold up 5-10% mkt share amongst the giants and building momentum
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Eric Balchunas
4 months
The Nine had biggest volume day since Day One with about $2b in combined trading thx to big contributions from $HODL, $BTCW and $BITB which all broke their personal records. For context $2b in trading would put them in Top 10ish among ETFs and Top 20ish among stocks. It's a lot.
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Hong Kim
2 years
We should go against our web 2 instincts to charge for things, own distribution platforms, own IP, etc since we have a structurally different way to monetize and scale. Instead we should be partnering with the world recruiting fans that share our vision. That's nouish ⌐◨-◨
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Hong Kim
1 year
it baffles me that we're so adverse to funding our own open source infrastructure (e.g. @houseofnouns ). it's as if we WANT our open source teams to go closed source, tack on fees, and raise venture funding. we're a public art / software movement!
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