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Alice Evans

2 years

"Ten Thousand Years of Patriarchy" The first ever global history of gender: theorising the rise of patriarchy, the deep roots of global heterogeneity, and the drivers of progress towards gender equality. Critique welcome!

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Alice Evans

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1 year

7 million men aged 25-54 in the USA are not working What are they doing? Volunteering? Worship? Care-work? “Playing Call of Duty stoned” They report 2000 hours a year of screen time (w/ pain meds) This phenomenon is far less severe in Western Europe

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Alice Evans

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I often ask women who have migrated to more gender equal countries, “what’s the biggest difference?” They overwhelmingly tell me it’s being able to walk around freely, look up, and make eye contact, without fear. That’s a core part of the Great Gender Divergence.

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she’s right and she should say it. Echoes my own experience. Being able to go outside and do simple things like run and hike, without men constantly harassing and ogling you is life-changing. Yes the fear is still there but 10x less than what it was like in India.

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Alice Evans

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4 years

Percentage of Indian women who report that they had a say in choose their husband I used the data from To pre-empt replies, the map template omits disputed regions, & wont let me change the names of Odisha & Uttarakhand 12% in Rajasthan, 15% in UP

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Alice Evans

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11 months

This is a fantastic example of why it’s so important to triangulate with multiple kinds of data. Zoomers increasingly call themselves “bi”, But are not actually having more gay sex. (Graph by @NickWolfinger )

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Alice Evans

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8 months

My hypothesis is that the decline of socialising (Friday nights with the boys) and rise of solitary media consumption (Netflix, video games) have inhibited young men’s development of social skills. If you don’t practise, you don’t improve, & you lack confidence to approach…

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Why are so many young men single? Are they excluded from a brutal mating market by society? Probably not: 45% of men age 18-25 have never approached a woman in person.

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Alice Evans

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Germany is seriously patriarchal. Women listen to their husbands, who ignore their wives New paper by @dietmarfehr , Mollerstrom, & @pereztruglia Plus - Strong opposition to women working - Very high child penalty - 20% of women justify wife-beating

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Alice Evans

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1 year

51% of Americans are strongly religious vs 20% in Europe

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Alice Evans

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1 year

When a woman provides critical feedback, how does a man react? Do they calmly evaluate the ideas or become angered by the threat to their egos? We don’t have cross-nationally comparative data on this spectrum, but it’s an important aspect of ‘The Great Gender Divergence’.

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Alice Evans

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3 years

Global Population Density i think this is the most evocative visualisation i've ever seen? more by @undertheraedar

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I decided to create a few more European population density renders - you can find more here if you need a break from the doomscrolling:

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Alice Evans

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OK! I have condensed the entire literature on the origins of patriarchy into 10 hypotheses. I think this is everything from feminist anthropology, archaeology, history, economics and genetics?? Lmk if you think I’ve missed anything out! 😬

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Alice Evans

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1 year

Spanish people are incredibly liberal. 87% say they’d be supportive if their kid came out as LGBT. It’s very rare for a country that was more culturally conservative or economically poorer in 1900 to converge with those at the vanguard. Leapfrogging is doubly rare!

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Alice Evans

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3 years

Why are Muslim countries typically poorer & authoritarian? Why did the Islamic Golden Age of philosophy & natural science whither? What thwarted the emergence of commerce & enlightenment? The Ulema-State Alliance - institutionalised over centuries. Great book by @prof_ahmetkuru

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Alice Evans

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2 years

What did Acemoglu get Wrong? Is democracy really good for growth? Have you changed your mind about religion? Are institutions endogenous? With climate breakdown, will you become more of a geographical determinist? Were you right on China? 🎙️ podcast!

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Alice Evans

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4 years

I've written a Tiny Textbook on Development Studies. It discusses the key debates. Made for my students, but others might find it interesting. Reading suggestions are very welcome!

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Alice Evans

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1 year

Intellectual promiscuity is sorely under-valued. Reading widely is - in truth - the only way to understand anything rigorously. Here are four excellent books I’d recommend to my Leftist friends.

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Alice Evans

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5 years

The UK advertising watchdog will ban adverts that reinforce gender inequalities! such as men struggling with, or evading, care work; & women being weak/ idiotic BOOM! This is fantastic. 👨‍👧‍👦👩‍💼👩‍🎓👷‍♀️👩‍🔬

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Alice Evans

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3 years

How come Nordic countries have such great family policies? Nordic unions are influential & their members are largely female In liberal economies, meanwhile, unions lack influence And in continental EU, unions represent men. Only Nordics have both

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Alice Evans

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3 months

South Korea leads the world for - spending on luxury goods - male spending on cosmetics - plastic surgery - private tuition - sadly also suicides I believe these facts are all related: Status competition How might that change?

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Alice Evans

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4 years

My next blog is on why southern India is more gender equal than the north, more girls survive, go to school, & women have more autonomy & labour force participation. I have drafted my theory. Now I want to hear YOUR priors. Why do you think the south is more gender equal?

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Alice Evans

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11 months

What led to the emergence of a rebellious political culture in Catalonia? Superb new book, spanning the past 4000 years. Here are 14 things I didn’t already know… 🧵

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Alice Evans

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7 years

@manwhohasitall I think you'll find that men DO feature in history books. Sure, it's not 50%. But that reflects REALITY. They had a marginal role.

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Alice Evans

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2 years

Acemoglu & Johnson have a forthcoming book on technology and institutions. It is tremendous. Sophisticated political economy analysis of our contemporary crisis, with fascinating illustrations from the breadth of human history. Their very best work.

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Alice Evans

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7 years

@manwhohasitall So don't try to reverse engineer history to suit your manist ideologies. The facts are real. Teach those. Anything else is PC gone mad!

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Alice Evans

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7 years

@portusprince @manwhohasitall We've given them sooo much already. I say stop pandering. Research the facts, don't shoehorn in your manist ideology.

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Alice Evans

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3 years

I’ve written a letter, correcting @TheEconomist . What do you think?

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Alice Evans

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4 years

Why are North & South India so different on gender? Is it due to... Poverty Colonialism Matriliny Cross-cousin marriage Conquests and purdah Labour-intensive cultivation Ancestral crop yields?

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Only 3% of South Koreans said that family was a major source of meaning. No wonder their birth rate is so low!! I think part of this is that over the 20th century they worked insanely long hours, in order to match western productivity, and this may have broken family bonds.

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Alice Evans

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1 year

“Women and men are just as likely to be promoted, controlling for publications” But listen, a survey of 50,000 US scientists finds that motherhood inhibits output. So controlling for publications omits a major gendered obstacle to career progression. By @PMoserEcon et al

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Alice Evans

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Even when a wife is the SOLE earner, she still does more housework!!!! She works all day to provide for both of them, then cooks, cleans and mops up after him! While he enjoys a whopping 47 hours of leisure!!!!!!! That, my friends, is patriarchy.

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Alice Evans

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11 months

Why is Poland such an economic success? Thread on a fascinating book - by @mmpiatkowski

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India is caught in a “patrilineal trap” Loving mothers care for their sons at home, who then become accustomed to female care-givers and seek to marry housewives. Employee women are penalised in the marriage market superb paper by @diva_dhar @kanmahajan

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Alice Evans

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Europeans, I want to show you something really WILD. This whole area is urban residential, many houses. No grocery shops. If you want some leeks, cherry tomatoes, peaches, pears.. Impossible! Want a new teapot? Zero! America! The only capitalist economy with no shops!!

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Alice Evans

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1 year

How accepted is homosexuality? (scale of 1-10) Why is it lowest in Peru?

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Alice Evans

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2 years

Morocco is caught in the Patrilineal Trap Low job growth means female wages are too low to compensate for the loss of male honour, so most stay at home. Sexual harassment exacerbates families’ concerns for girls’ safety, motivating tight policing. Insights from my travels👇

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Alice Evans

@_alice_evans

3 years

Promoted to Senior Lecturer. BIG thank you to everyone who’s challenged & improved my understanding of the world. More conundrums to come! 🤗

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Alice Evans

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2 years

Engels argued that the emergence of private property led to patriarchy. Which (if any) claims hold up? 🧶

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Alice Evans

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1 year

Why is hostile sexism on the rise? Why is Andrew Tate so popular? Some blame unemployment. Sure, that makes it worse, but it’s not new Has the rise of online dating meant that MOST men are constantly rejected & ghosted by women who see and pursue more desirable partners?

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Alice Evans

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Evolutionary explanations of sex differences are often rejected by progressives. They want to contest, delegitimise & reform socially constructed patriarchy. But data & contestation are not at odds! The more we understand what’s going on, the better informed our solutions.

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Alice Evans

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Are young men shifting right? Several people are tweeting that Gen-Z are more likely to oppose feminism Look at the full survey: Gen-Z men are most likely to reject ideals of housewives, domestic patriarchs, and male leaders. Young men are the most egalitarian!

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Striking, new evidence young men in America are moving Right: ✔️ Fewer than half of Gen Z men think “feminism has made America a better place”

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Alice Evans

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What happened when trade shocks hit blue-collar jobs? - poor men lost economic status relative to women, - poor women had less financial incentive to marry - marriage rates fell - single motherhood increased - child poverty rose

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Alice Evans

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11 months

Repression hurts science. Protestant and Catholic regions produced just as many scientists Until... The Counter-Reformation successfully imposed prohibitions, instilled fear, and quashed innovation Awesome paper by @MatCabelloEcon

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Alice Evans

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Back in the 1970s, feminists anthropologists often claimed that small-scale societies were more gender equal, as there were weaker restrictions on sexuality. Actually, they had extremely high violence, often involving capture & gang rape of women. - graph from @sapinker

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Alice Evans

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2 years

Believing that people will act differently if only we intervene with different messaging or framing is one of the most over-rated ideas to come out of social science in the last couple of decades…

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Researchers gave Americans different messages to encourage wearing masks. None worked, and everyone hated science the most! 😅 @MicheleJGelfand

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Alice Evans

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1 year

Yale gym is full of people, but devoid of social interactions. When resting between sets, guys just stare at their phones. They train alone, seldom banter with others. I’ve been everyday for two weeks This fits a wider trend, of young introverts cc @jean_twenge @JonHaidt

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Alice Evans

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7 years

@manwhohasitall 1. Why are u rubbishing existing knowledge? How dare u? 2. Nice idea; not priority. 3. Didn't they just start wars? Anything constructive?

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“A History of the Muslim World” is the best book I’ve read this year. Michael Cook’s 912 page tome is incredibly detailed & careful, analysing the political economy of empire-building and cultural evolution across the world. Tremendous!

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Alice Evans

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1 year

I’m joining @Yale as a Visiting Associate Professor. Very grateful to be invited, eager to learn from brilliant minds 🤗 In other news, the puppy is in serious trouble…

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Turkey is incredibly culturally diverse. In the South East & North East, there’s stronger support for a religious state and veiling. Region is a much stronger predictor than individual characteristics (like education).

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Alice Evans

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5 years

Only sharing successes reinforces the harmful myth that everyone else is thriving This can make others feel uniquely inept 😞😢 So on the premise this is a public good,I just got rejected From a @Stanford fellowship I’m over it, just letting you know setbacks are routine 😊😘

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Alice Evans

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3 years

Who wrote this article for the Economist on gender?? Outside the West, the world largely comprises patrilocal clans like the Middle East?? Are you serious??

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Alice Evans

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2 years

What were Seljuk views of women? Evidence from ceramics & stone statues (1/3)

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Alice Evans

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“thousands of randomly generated fictitious resumes were submitted” I see that another new study, circulating on Twitter, gets zero pushback Academics seem very comfortable with imposing a time cost to other working people, as if others’ time is unimportant and our work trumps.

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UBI was a popular idea a few years ago, as championed by Andrew Yang. Some utopian idealists claimed it would enable people to volunteer and join community associations 🌸🕊☮️ The data is pretty clear that this is NOT what jobless men choose to do!

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Alice Evans

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5 years

How to reduce inequality? Branko & Piketty: raise taxes, improve edu, deconcentrate wealth, & publicly fund🗳️campaigns But Branko doubts public support for higher taxes & welfare, esp. given xenophobia & immigration Piketty is more optimistic, showing ideologies can change!

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In Europe, employees spend less time on the job and this has declined over time. In the USA, average annual hours worked per worker has remained constant. You either work long hours or not at all. Is dropping out seen as the only way to have fun?

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Indonesia and Malaysia present a puzzle. Patriarchal laws have been overturned Female employment and share of earnings are above-average. They’ve become partial democracies. Why are they much more open than Muslim countries in MENA and Sub-Saharan Africa? My next SubStack.

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Alice Evans

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From my own qualitative research, I suggest this is because many young people - question heteronormativity & binary categories - reject these social constructs - refuse this ‘heterosexual straitjacket’ - but in practice are typically more attracted to the opposite sex

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Alice Evans

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2 years

What’s it like being single in India? Excellent new book on male honour, social surveillance, and restrictions on female freedoms - even if they remain alone.

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new class activity: i ask a question, "Why X?" students discuss in pairs but rather than give A SINGLE answer they must give TWO POSSIBLE hypotheses. i'm trying to cultivate caution, scepticism, plus recognition & engagement with multiple explanations. 😀

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In ancient Mesopotamian villages, men and women both made pottery at home. With the rise of the state from mid-third millennium BCE, pottery production became large-scale, state-organised & exclusively male! Evidence from finger prints!! 🤯

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Did the Napoleonic Wars spur the Industrial Revolution? British men were press-ganged into the navy. Labour scarcity motivated technological innovation! Fantastically clever paper by the great @joachim_voth @brunocaprettini & Alex Trew ⛵️

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Alice Evans

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Here is a question that I have not seen asked, or answered, Why was Christianity so widely embraced across Sub-Saharan Africa, but extremely unsuccessful in South Asia?

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Alice Evans

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7 months

Superstar!! Our hero!!!! 👏👏👏

The Nobel Prize

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BREAKING NEWS The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences has decided to award the 2023 Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel to Claudia Goldin “for having advanced our understanding of women’s labour market outcomes.” #NobelPrize

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Alice Evans

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"A remarkable thing which I saw in this country was the respect shown to women by the Turks, for they hold a more dignified position than the men... I saw also the wives of the merchants and common [men].. Women do not veil" - Ibn Battuta's observations of Anatolia in 1330-1331

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Alice Evans

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7 years

@manwhohasitall What we historians really ought to do is understand the causes of economic growth & falling income inequality. This is a distraction.

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10 months

Terrifically comprehensive analysis of India’s political and economic development - by @AshokaMody Strongly recommend. Superb.

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4 years

How did the Industrial Revolution affect family life? 600 working class autobiographies. Girls did NOT aspire for domesticity. They sought paid work, but female wages were so low, they had to marry & become dependent. Meanwhile, men’s economic autonomy soared with growth.

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Why is the modern male struggling? - Boys mature later - Poverty & paternal absence inhibit cognitive development What’s the solution? @RichardvReeves suggests: - Delay boys’ education - More male teachers - More training - Foster stronger relationships with fathers.

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This modern fad of calling everything “trauma” has no scientific merit. I appreciate people mean well, but it’s not helping. Our teens are literally swimming in a cesspit of self-pathologising woe. In truth, some of us learn to be independent and that’s a useful skill!

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Hyper independence is a trauma response from having learned early on you can’t really depend on anyone other than yourself

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In rich countries, 80% of the gender gap in employment is due to the motherhood penalty. But theories about the rich west are not valid universally. Elsewhere, women's lower employment is not due to childcare. @TheEconomist , Kleven, @landais_camille & @LeiteMariante

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The history of kinship and state formation in China. Every page of this book brims with fascinating, important, original insights. Pre-order & follow the author @YuhuaWang5

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3 years

Excited to teach "Development Theory" next term, for our Masters students @KingsCollegeLon Finalised my Tiny Textbook, for students to read before lectures & academic papers. It summarises big debates & helps them critically assess different hypotheses

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That doesn’t mean they are hypocritical or inconsistent. It’s just saying that “I don’t want to rule out the possibility that I could ever be attracted to a woman. I don’t really like these strict artificial binaries. But yeh, I currently fancy a guy”.

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Female friendships are the fundamental precursor to any kind of mobilisation against patriarchy. Women listen, share ideas, support, solace & solidarity. But how many paintings pass the #Bechdel test? Not depicting women as pretty, but showing #friendship ?

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Wife beating is highest among African groups who marry their relatives (Alesina et al 2019) In India, wife beating is much higher among (endogamous) Dravidians Girls are socialised for loyalty to kin, divorce is prohibited since family comes first, & she is trapped in abuse.

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Cousin marriage is probably fine in most cases

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Did the Bolshevik revolution inspire 🇳🇴 social democracy? ✊ Labour movements were emboldened! 😱 Elites were terrified! 💰 Redistributive social policy prevented hardcore revolution! 🤝 Reforming to survive! Fantastic book by @RasmussenMagnus & @carlhknutsen

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Alcohol abuse is one of the largest predictors of gender-based violence worldwide. If people drink less, women tend to be safer.

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The decline in French alcohol consumption is just astonishing. The average French person drinks less than a quarter as much wine today as they did in the 1960s. And look at that cidre decline.

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Percentage of women who say men eat first I used the data from To pre-empt replies, the map template omits disputed regions, & wont let me change the names of Odisha & Uttarakhand 46% in Rajasthan, 53% in UP.

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Who dominates your class discussions? Men speak without raising their hands, interrupt & go on longer Men’s language is more assertive Evidence from coding 95 classes in social sciences, natural sciences & humanities at a top-ranked US programme

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It’s strange The vast majority of students do not become academics. Yet their training is hobbled by a model in which all the knowledge, erudite insights & careful analysis are trapped behind paywalls, replete with insular jargon that is best stultifying & at worse impenetrable

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GUESS WHO MY NEXT PODCAST IS WITH? @DrDaronAcemoglu @NarrowCorridor !! *VERY* EXCITED FOR THIS.

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Indian women’s legal rights exist on paper, but are seldom claimed & poorly enforced. The criminal justice system is sexist & incapacitated. So women often approach the state through organisations - that embolden social transformation. Superb new book by Poulami Roychowdhury

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Top jobs go to those who work long hours As long as men undertake less care work, they are more able to work long hours But regulation doesnt help! In countries with hours regulation, ambitious women can’t demonstrate their commitment, so get hit by statistical discrimination

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Sorry, but the patriarchy is not to blame for sex-segregated sports. There are biological differences. Men tend to be physically stronger, which gives them the upper hand in the majority of sports. I am stunned that is even contested.

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Professor Claudia Goldin & I discuss: 🧑‍💼 Why do men dominate top jobs? 🤱 Is this due to women's choices or discrimination? 🌎 Why are there more women managers in the USA than Europe? 💰 What would reduce the gender pay gap?

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I've written another Tiny Textbook on Development Studies. It discusses key challenges (poverty, inequality, & violence); organising, insurgencies, right-wing populism; global supply chains; & the impacts of COVID. Reading suggestions are very welcome!

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What prevents & what drives gendered ideological polarisation? featuring fantastic research by @DrNathanNunn @S_Stantcheva @jburnmurdoch @GefjonOff @BShrayana @rodriguez_pose @ndrlee

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Let me make a broader meta-point: Since the 1970s, feminist anthropologists, archaeologists & historians have tried to show that women had agency, mattered & did stuff. This has sometimes blinkered our understanding of actually existing inequalities & differences.

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"Worldwide survey kills the myth of Man the Hunter" Lots of publicity for this very biased study. Claims women hunt in roughly 80% of surveyed forager groups. But is silent on men hunting more and differently in 100%.

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The very poorest Americans are just as poor as poor Europeans. But above the 50th percentile, US households are much much richer and live a very different lifestyle. Charts by the great @jburnmurdoch

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I don’t think Europeans—or at least French people—envy American economic success. But that’s because they’re in denial/uninformed of the growing gap. That gap, to be fair, has greatly expanded over the last 15 years and it may take time for people to know about it.

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A longitudinal study of 1000 people found that 20% are extremely bad at self-control This is detectable from age 5 and nothing seems to improve it later on They are harmful to both men and women.

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This is one of my favourite books Mokyr argues that a positive feedback loop was forged by celebrating innovations & connecting scientists, entrepreneurs & artisans. If you buy that, you surely accept that women were disadvantaged through their exclusion from these networks..?

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Does disdain for women increase the pay gap? Yes Evidence from Google In US states where search terms are often misogynist, employers are probably more prejudiced, and women earn less than men. Elizabeth Malony, JMP.

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Alice Evans

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5 years

Dude, you literally championed Bolsonaro, as “the desired candidates for market”

Deutsche Bank

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@_alice_evans @WSJ Please be assured, the environment is extremely important to us and we adhere to strict guidelines when making business decisions. You can read more here:

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Alice Evans

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"Norms were loosened around being an absentee father. More men took the option. We retreat to discussions of poverty because talking about parenting makes people feel judgmental. But young men will only do what’s expected of them" @robkhenderson

No One Expects Young Men To Do Anything and They Are Responding By Doing Nothing

Garbage in garbage out

www.robkhenderson.com

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Alice Evans

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2 years

What essential information must an Indian woman provide when she registers for a SIM card?

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Alice Evans

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7 years

@ianbremmer Trump's message sounds like he just left summer camp.

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Alice Evans

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1 year

Female teenagers are increasingly anxious and depressed. @JonHaidt raises an important risk, which I haven’t seen anyone discuss. What will this mean for gender inequality at work? Will poor mental health make them less competitive and innovative?

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Alice Evans

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Why is the USA an outlier? The USA had near universal labour force participation in the 1960s, but now has the lowest in the OECD [dotted black line]

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Alice Evans

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A friend at Stanford told me they often work in a cafe or library, because they like to be surrounded by people So i invited them to work in my office How did they reply? 🙃

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