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I've seen reports on X that this paper is finally about to appear in Cell, a top tier, high impact journal. As a 30 yr cell& molecular biologist, may I briefly give my 2 cents? What this "study" does is look exhaustively in silico at sample data not collected by or under the

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MJ Allen

@MJnanostretch

3 years

Everybody on Twitter thinks theyve important things to say, I've a small footprint of ~400 followers but this might be the most important Tweet I’ve made since joining in Aug21. What's happening to Science's reputation is appalling& as an institution will take decades to recover.

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You know something's not right when your nation's medical and public health research agency is redacting their emails during a pandemic.

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MJ Allen

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Trained in cell biology, worked w viruses, vaccines& human disease 3 decades. I weigh evidence on both sides w an open mind (currently 55:45 zoo:LL). I enjoy debate w civility. 12+ scientists (all strongly favoring zoo) have blocked me. What the absolute heck is going on here?

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Science's mission is never racing to submit non peer reviewed research across the largest media networks in order to influence public opinion via misleading language that doesn’t pass standards of peer review. A flagrant abuse by the project leaders who should know better.

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I love science& my work in it. Served on my share of review panels (50?)& reviewed 100s of grant proposals& manuscripts. Never have I seen anything like this before. Disturbing times w extraordinary occurrences never allowed previously that I can recall in my 30 yr career.

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The hyperbolic language used in the non-peer reviewed preprints splashed across MSM media pulls all stops to dispose of (send) lab leak into an early unmarked grave- unscientific& unethical. Perhaps worst, sets a horrible new precedent re: scientific scholarship &mentorship.

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Even if highly impactful, attracting so much media coverage as we're seeing re: explosive non-peer reviewed research doesn’t happen by accident, the authors have been provided an unheard-of gateway by someone or something much more influential than they are.

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Chain of custody of the evidence is also at issue. Misbehavior and poor judgement are somewhere in the mix, when hyperbolic conclusions not based on raw data generated by these scientists nor in their possession or control screams across headlines on the New York Times and NPR.

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MJ Allen

@MJnanostretch

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I'm a 30-yr cell &molecular biologist incl. yrs of hands-on work w viruses &had read Ralph Baric's MITTR interview that said the WIV had been flirting with disaster re: its SARSr bat virus work performed at BSL2. This was generally known as fact, the WIV had published a paper

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I was wrong, indeed looks horrible. Center grants are unique, no payline> KA/RG were vulnerable. "he had an $8.9M research grant proposal sitting on Fauci’s desk, waiting for approval. 4 days after the paper was published, Anderson's grant was finalized."

The Covid Cover-Up | National Review

The disturbing revelations surrounding the 2020 ‘proximal origin’ paper.

www.nationalreview.com

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5 months

Benjamin your article completely missed the story today. That Democrats & Republicans successfully worked together in agreement on several major issues. Here's what would've been newsworthy to your readers had you reported it. From California Rep. Raul Ruiz today, the

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Zoocrew not going to like this.. ie not dispositive. “we think the Wuhan Huanan wet market is not the origin,” Lo Yi-Chun, deputy director of Taiwan’s CDC. “It’s probably just a very important step in the transmission chain. The origin is somewhere else.”

Taiwan Has Ruled Out Wet Market as Covid Origin, Official Says | National Review

A senior Taiwanese public-health official said that the Covid-19 virus did not likely originate at the Wuhan wet market.

www.nationalreview.com

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"Lin is a doctor..in Wuhan. Usually..the hospital treats 2 or 3 cases of cold or fever each day, but in the middle of November 2019.. "In an 8-hour shift a doctor would treat 25 to 30 patients..more than half would have fevers. And many were children."

'We were useless': Secrets from a Wuhan doctor made to work 24-hour shifts while infected

In this book extract exclusive to the Herald, a doctor tells what it was really like.

www.nzherald.co.nz

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6 months

One thing you must understand about Michael Hitzlik of the LA Times; he thinks "lab leak" is a racist batshit-crazy right-wing conspiracy theory (see example below). Early on Hitzlik was the Pied Piper who led hordes of liberals like me into the belief that the whole "lab leak'

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A SARS pandemic breaks out next to a SARS lab, the WHO asks if it can audit &the SARS lab says "No". Then plans uncovered of a US collaborator of said SARS lab to make an unusual virus notably similar to the pandemic SARS virus &when asked for details says "No, ask the SARS lab".

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How is it the world fell asleep at the wheel allowing China to flatly reject the WHO origin team's critical followup visit to Wuhan for the reasons that (1) LL was found to be ‘extremely unlikely’ &that (2) China had already responded w sufficient cooperation &transparency. 1/2

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@MJnanostretch

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Are these not facts? 1) No independent audits of Wuhan labs 2) No tests of live Market animals 3) No intermediate or progenitor virus bet. RaTG13 >SARS2. 4) No early tracing of Wuhan infections (Oct-Dec'19) What more could science journalists possibly need to get a frickin clue?

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For yrs prior to the Wuhan outbreak, in order to study SARSr viruses, virology labs collected 1000s of bat samples from far away places &brought them to Wuhan where they were handled under inadequate biosafety. The independent lab leak investigation needed from day1- where is it?

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The zoocrew may have their work cut out to explain this away, assuming this is published soon. A shocking revelation of ePPP research approaches regularly dismissed by zoocrew as baseless conspiracy theory, here shown going on in a Wuhan lab in early '20.

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2 years

I love quotes in general and this one in particular.

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What I didn't understand when I joined Twitter in Aug'21 was why I was being labeled an anti-Asian anti-science rightwing conspiracy theorist when I was a well educated and trained 30 yr career biomedical scientist. 1/12

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A cell culture adapted mutant SARS-CoV-2r pangolin virus lethal to hACE2 mice seems to cause a late-stage brain infection. Beijing Univ group, preprint published 4Jan'24.

Lethal Infection of Human ACE2-Transgenic Mice Caused by SARS-CoV-2-related Pangolin Coronavirus...

SARS-CoV-2-related pangolin coronavirus GX\_P2V(short\_3UTR) can cause 100% mortality in human ACE2-transgenic mice, potentially attributable to late-stage brain infection. This underscores a...

www.biorxiv.org

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5 months

In other words, nobody's buying her baloney anymore. "Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at the University of Saskatchewan.. says she was disappointed that the Democrats joined the Republicans in what she says was “essentially an attack on science”. “It’s a very dangerous

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2 years

Pretty interesting statistical analyses suggesting SARS2 resembles an infectious clone from the virology lab. Have you noticed the zoocrew are NOT finding it interesting? Predictably blasting it w the same squirt gun, haughty& condescending, scoffing at it &the authors. 1/2

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In a Feb. 9, 2020 email to WIV Professor Yuan Zhiming, Le Duc wrote that he thought it was important to “aggressively address these rumors and presumably false accusations quickly and provide definitive, honest information to counter misinformation.”

Biosafety expert close to Wuhan Institute of Virology urged associates there to address his tough...

In early 2020, as the world was reeling from the fast spread of the Covid-19 pandemic, a leading biosafety expert with close ties to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) provided a list of in-depth...

usrtk.org

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2 years

I criticized her for calling a new int'l taskforce on biosafety re: high risk pathogen research a "circle jerk" with "dishonorable members". And I'm the one who needs to be blocked?

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Wow here's infamous Figure C from the FOIA'd DEFUSE draft (pg519) and yep sure enough it identifies furin sites in other CoVs at S1/S2, also S2'. Couldn't be clearer that furin sites at S1/S2 in "other" SARS-CoVs were on the DEFUSE radar.

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3 months

Alina Chan humbly admits to being a human being. But let me tell you that when "the zoocrew" have gone low on Alina Chan (which is often &occasionally extremely low), Alina Chan has always gone high. Alina has been on the receiving end of all the abuse here. I've never seen

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@Ayjchan

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I believe in giving people chances to do the right thing, especially if they have power to do good. It is more productive than destroying people. I don't have a perfect record of keeping my cool on #OriginOfCovid but I believe respect is key. Respect your opponents & yourself.

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Perhaps the most obviously bad decision ever made. &No one even blinked. April 2020: “The idea that this virus escaped from a lab is just pure baloney", said Peter Daszak the expert selected by the WHO to investigate whether the virus escaped from a lab.

“Pure Baloney”: Zoologist Debunks Trump’s COVID-19 Origin Theory, Explains Animal-Human Transmission

With the largest one-day death toll in the U.S. yet — 2,400 in just 24 hours — President Trump is trying to deflect attention from his handling of the pandemic by waging a war on public health...

www.democracynow.org

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If the pandemic broke out in Chapel Hill do you think Baric's lab at UNC would be independently audited &results published long ago? I do. The US wouldn't have been able to keep the lid on amid global public& press frenzy. What's happened re: lack of investigation is surreal.

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Lancet author publicly: "We..strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin." 2/19/20 Two months later privately: "An incidental/accidental error infecting a lab worker who.. asymptomatically shed virus could have occurred." 4/19/20

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Unblocked me, claimed I'd excused death threats against her family, &then blocked me again. I believe this is the only conversation I ever had w her. Was she trying to scare me into silence? The thought crossed my mind.

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Rasmussen's 14 Samples: 1. No proper proximal origin investigation was ever conducted. She's talking about processing data on her laptop in Canada.

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Are you a scientist, a person of integrity- does this crap bother you? It keeps happening over and over again. Does anyone care about anything??? (see screen grab). If the zoo crew had an ounce of integrity they'd be calling this crap out (read the subheading). This is pure crap.

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“researchers working at a US lab who were collaborating with the Wuhan institute at the time of the outbreak.. said the Wuhan scientists had inserted furin cleavage sites into viruses in 2019 in exactly the way proposed in Daszak’s.. application to Darpa.”

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Who can deny the "premature push" to rule out a Wuhan lab leak? China lobbies the WHO& its media. Western virologists prematurely push w opinion pieces, preprints &media. Both China &US institutions resist formal investigation, transparency& voluntary disclosure, 1/2

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The WHO says it's definitely not known how the virus came to us. Recent NIH-funded research says it definitely was a market spillover. Late research out of China says it definitely was not a market spillover. The NIH says that what it knows is definitely none of your business.

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I'm afraid there's nothing Dr Daszak can say to change these 3 well established &damning facts (though there are others): (1) In a professional capacity Dr Daszak concluded a lab leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology was "extremely unlikely" despite his long professional

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Let me be a witness here, Zeynep's telling it straight. Philipp Markolin, Kristian Andersen, Angela Rasmussen these are the clear bad actors in all of this. Inexcusable, unprofessional, despicable to boost &legitimize the likes of Markolin only to smear Tufekci &Chan, two of the

zeynep tufekci

@zeynep

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Btw, few scientists presenting their opinions on pandemic origins as The Science keep amplifying this rando smearing me and other women scientists for years. Google scholar is your friend. I am one of the most cited academics who helped define the concepts he is misusing here.

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Fauci arranging an origin paper, ushering it through, himself w final approval. Maybe not so weird w a deadly new pandemic afoot. Where it does get weird is Fauci in front of cameras acting as if he'd nothing to do w PO &didn't know the authors. &Then all those redacted emails.

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Spanked hard by reviewers for a ridiculously worded preprint shamelessly promoted to the media.. revised heavily throughout, warnings of its significant limitations inserted, stripped clean of all original outrageous claims).. &Science STILL publishes it!

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Alina's the one telling it straight here. I am witness to the abuse Alina Chan & Jesse Bloom have suffered at the hands of a conflicted group of virology loyalists active on X & other media. Their haughty & hyperdefensive behavior smears &slurs scientists like Alina &Jesse it

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@Ayjchan

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I believe that reporting on online harassment should be fair. The latest piece by @jocelynkaiser does not point out the harassment that these dozen scientists filing a complaint have themselves engaged in towards other scientists like myself in the past 4 years.

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Half the world's infected w a weirdo virus unknown to science, ~15M people died in a devastating pandemic. &Due to catastrophic failures in common sense regulatory oversight, 4yrs have passed w/out the pandemic's origin ever being properly investigated. Are people getting this?

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Worth the read. Why do the zoocrew personally attack Alex, smearing him is unscientific, he presents interesting arguments& evidence, takes on challenges to defend his evidence. Their lack of open curiosity& prickly defensiveness weird& unnecessary,

The synthetic origin theory of SARS-CoV-2

Why it still stands, and what it would take to disprove it.

alexwasburne.substack.com

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How does a guy this tone deaf win a Pulitzer? It's not that nature can't make a FCS, it can. That's not the point here. It's that nature had never before found a way to make a FCS in the entire Sarbecovirus subgenus, though many hundreds had room at their S1/S2 boundary. Not

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This really is an amazing document & accomplishment- & a great read. Thanks are in order, @garyruskin . @emilyakopp

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Unredacted email released today from Brigham virologist Prof. Mike Farzan (apparently from 2020). This has been among the strongest most plausible LL hypotheses all along. And yet laughed off the stage by the Hitzlik and Rasmussen's of the world who were ignorantly listened to.

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Doh! ~100% of the avail origin investigation data centered on the Huanan Market. Swabs of the Market, early epi links to the Market, testing of local mammals supplied to the Market &other mammals across China. Given all the energy expended on the Market, Market spillover theory

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If they have the evidence why not let the world know for Pete's sake? Dir of Defense Intel Agency in prepared Senate testimony this week said U.S. intelligence- not identified by name- believe the COVID-19 virus was genetically modified in a laboratory..

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I've yet to hear why it's ok Peter Daszak didn't publicly release all DEFUSE materials immediately after learning the identity of the outbreak virus in Wuhan. These are unclassified documents having clear relevance to the origin of C19 w potential to change the course of the

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If you're an actual scientist you know this is actual bullshit. *Time to apply the following wisdom to Phil, "When someone tells you who they are, believe them"

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Ok so here's the Forbes headline, "Covid LL Theory: Some Government Agencies Believe It—Here’s Why Most Scientists Don’t" &The source? You guessed it, like a broken record: the Proximal Origin authors, Dr. Rasmussen &W-P papers. That's "most scientists"?

Covid Lab Leak Theory: Some Government Agencies Believe It—Here’s Why Most Scientists Don’t

Almost seven million people have died from Covid since the pandemic began in 2020, and many people like former President Donald Trump have made the Chinese government the scapegoat.

www.forbes.com

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To think this phony online influencer, Daszak stool pigeon &Andersen fanboy has been propped up &boosted as an objective independent knowledgeable &credible Scicomm. When in fact Phil has distorted the truth about origin more than just about anyone. Including his incessant

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Wow this seemingly confirms the freakiest of all origin coincidences. That just as SARSrCoV research based in Wuhan was closing in on a spillover virus much like SARS2 it suddenly appeared far from where they'd been looking originally and not in bats but in Wuhan hospital

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The massive amount of media PR we're seeing supporting the 2 Science papers shows not only how important the origin mystery is but how expert Science is in trumpeting a message it likes. E.g., does anyone remember Science trumpeting support for Tedros' Wuhan lab audits last year?

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If you think it's significant that a leaked grant proposal ~1.5yrs before the Wuhan outbreak, w WIV as a primary collaborator, planned to put FCSs in SARS-like viruses &infect lab animals, you're a loopy conspiracist? Even if independent audits of Wuhan labs were also withheld??

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Where's the evidence? "the earliest people infected w SARS2 were Ben Hu, Yu Ping & Yan Zhu.. all worked at the Wuhan lab, the report said citing multiple US govt officials. Hu led the lab's GOF research on CoVs.. Hu & Yu studied.. viruses related to SARS2"

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Ok yes the redactions are disturbing. BUT we now know that whether the SARS2 genome is research- or nature-derived is unknowable. Right? So it seems to me coverup of the Feb1 teleconference regards a debate over "we can't tell for sure" and "we want to say it's likely natural".

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A real bombshell here (no raccoon dogs). How will PD explain it away? From an early draft of the DEFUSE proposal, FOIA'd. PD schemed to make DEFUSE look to DARPA like the project wouldn't farm out risky SARSr lab work to China &BSL-2, but once they had the DARPA money in pocket,

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Daszak: "'Ralph, Zhengli. If we win this contract, I do not propose…all…this work will…be conducted by Ralph, but I…want to stress the US side…so…DARPA are comfortable…Once we get the funds, we can then allocate who does what…, and…a lot of the work can be done in Wuhan”

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World's gone crazy...

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Fact #1 : the most logical places to investigate the origin of the Wuhan Sarbecovirus outbreak indisputably were 2 nearby Sarbecovirus labs. Fact #2 : from day1 handfuls of journalists& virologists convincing much of the public that it's NONSENSE to think the labs could've leaked it.

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In lessons learned from the C-19 pandemic, UPenn's virology professor Susan Weiss today confirms she REJECTS OUTRIGHT any &all credible suggestions of SARS2 having a research-related origin &that regulatory oversight of risky pathogen research is in need of any improvements

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Who in the US might have answers to lingering questions about a possible lab origin? For starters, these DEFUSE team members. But why arent we hearing from these& other scientists &why is major media nowhere 2b found on this? Dr. Baric, UNC Dr. Rocke, USGS/NWHC Dr. Unidad, PARC

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Prof Hotez, I take offense at calling fellow scientists like myself whacka-a-doodle, right-wing conspiracy theorists. Like you I believe in biomed science, democratic principles, liberal education &public citizens engaged in preserving civil society. This requires an open mind.

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@natashaloder There's also more evidence of no traces found of an ancestor anywhere in nature. That's a big problem &KGA's only solution that CN is covering it all up. Which, in turn, only raises more disturbing questions about no lab audits& the quality of what KGA calls "all the evidence".

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The dataset is flawed, will never answer origin, new evidence must come in. "David Relman..Stanford University.. agrees that the preprints are not definitive, &that they exclude the possibility that people were infected prior to the outbreak at the market, but went undiagnosed."

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"Zoocrew" hate this, call it RW propaganda, conspiracy theory of liars &grifters. Whereas unbiased scientists &onlookers love it because it confirms our contention all along that LL is an excellent scientific hypothesis &s/b investigated. H/t @emilyakopp

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I'm stunned at how clueless @stuartjdneil is here. PO was used like a club to hit people over the head. What part of not "any type of laboratory-based scenario" in Nature Medicine don't you understand?! I now suspect you're anti-science, a conspiracy theorist and a RW Trumpster."

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Extremely interesting testimony today in Washington with Dr Holden Thorp in the hot seat (kudos to him for showing up where Nature &Lancet refused). I thought Thorp performed extremely well. Two interesting developments, (1) Testifying in person today Thorp left out his strong

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This is what drives me crazy about today's journalism. There's been no LL investigation in Wuhan. What bloody "four years of intensive investigation" is Eddie Holmes even talking about? "After more than four years of intensive investigation there is still not a single piece of

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There's been no real SARS2 origin investigation- &this keeps not changing for 2 yrs. Same frustratingly fuzzy evidence in Wuhan. ~50 yrs removed ancestors in far-away bat caves the only evidence. Partisan politics has restarted as no real progress continues. Nothing's happening.

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Ok, finally, below is weak circumstantial evidence of a research-related leak. DEFUSE is not a blueprint for making SARS2 but one of its authors, Ralph Baric, the world's leading coronavirologist, answering subcommittee questions in a "most complete & truthful manner possible"

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Tell me this guy isn't pushing his luck? On the WHO team he well knows no proper lab audits were ever conducted in Wuhan. Playing politics! "DOE & FBI assess that a laboratory-associated incident was the most likely cause of the first human infection w SARS-CoV-2" -ODNI June23

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Now established that a lab-related origin, in its truest form, has always been an excellent scientific hypothesis needing immediate investigation, will any of the influencers who call(ed) the COVID lab leak hypothesis a conspiracy theory for the not-so-smart crowd ever apologize?

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"Bloom said if the Wuhan Institute of Virology were to release its entire database of bat coronaviruses, it would go a long way towards settling the question of whether one of its labs was the source."

COVID-19: The endless search for the origins of the virus

Two years after a pandemic was declared, scientists continue to debate how the coronavirus came to infect humans.

www.aljazeera.com

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Horrifying as death threats are, I was taken aback by Dr Rasmussen's eagerness to lay blame at the feet of peaceable scientists like myself who pose no threat to anyone but to counter Dr Rasmussen's misconstruction of what seems to me plainly true. 1/2

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After a novel SL-CoV pandemic w >500M infections breaks out next to two major SL-CoV research labs w inadequate biosafety& no independent audit, virologists become irritated& offended when their field comes under scrutiny re: public funding& safety.

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Look into it. This gigantic effort to "dig up dangerous viruses everywhere for the good of the Earth and humankind" stuff needs a giant pause for independent oversight.

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The zoocrew don't want anyone to hear me. They'll all claim they blocked me because I'm uncivil, a grifter, conspiracy theorist, pseudoscientist. Well, I'm none of those things; a 35yr cell& molecular biologist. IOWs the zoocrew are untrustworthy scoundrels pedaling bad science.

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Can't begin to tell you how impressed I am by Eban &Kao here- leaving me hanging by every word. A masterclass in journalistic rigor for truth rising high above the "mosh pit of poop emojis & middle school insults" confirming 2 plausible scenarios, not 1.

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'20 Daszak/WHO KGA/Nature& Daszak/Lancet: a lab leak is extremely unlikely &a market spillover extremely likely. '22 SAGO/WHO Sachs/PNAS &Bloom: a lab leak is NOT extremely unlikely (actually it needs investigating) &a market spillover is NOT extremely likely, it's just likely.

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Having taken interest in following the origin controversy closely, I've come to the opinion that risky pathogen research as an industry, on-the-whole, would rather the public believe research-related "leaks" are laughable conspiratorial fiction than face the task of educating the

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It's amazing to me today that of the most influential conclusions from scientists considered by media to be the top, most important origin researchers- all are false. Dr. Peter Daszak: Lab leak is extremely unlikely and DEFUSE has no relevance to origin. Prof. Kristian

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Calling all relevant experts, question: If the circumstance of the outbreak in Wuhan doesn't warrant an independent lab investigation then what circumstance does? A novel Sarbecovirus outbreak near the largest Sarbecovirus labs in the world requires more evidence for a WHO audit?

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What a pile of horse manure- she's done nothing of the sort. Wrote a paper in early '20, "Tracking SARS-CoV-2 mutations by locations and dates of interest" &your gang has been harassing &talking smack about her ever since. Totally unprofessional behavior.

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@tony_vandongen With high (political) stakes and levels of exposure... all it takes is a few to ruin it for many. What's frustrating is that it shouldn't be allowed but the circumstance is extraordinary--- no one living has experienced times like this.

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FBI having "moderate confidence" in a lab accident was rumored now confirmed by NYT. A big deal in my mind because the FBI is the only IC agency with a high level of relevant expertise sufficient to make such an assessment.

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An anonymous controversial pro-LL online character, "Florin", showed his/her work, i.e., how he/she was able to geolocate Phil Markolin to an EHA/Daszak-funded work site in Thailand. It is my understanding that Daszak then confirmed Markolin's presence at the EHA site to a NYTs

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More bizarre denials from PD/EHA: "EcoHealth Alliance wants to remind any readers of these articles that DARPA did not select this proposal for funding." Me: No one has claimed your proposal was funded. "Had they done so, the work would have been subject to further detailed

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Looking at science through the lens of the C19 origin debate & debacle I do not recognize it or the scientists I've known & worked with for decades. The "zoocrew" have painted obnoxious graffiti onto the public face of science that will take decades to remove. The "zoocrew"

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2 years

Can the zoocrew swallow their pride for once and at least agree with him on this one important issue??

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The coronaviruses collected elsewhere& brought to Wuhan 0-5 yrs prior to the Wuhan outbreak are conspicuously missing from the public record. Related unpublished experiments are as well. They're needed mainly due to their possible connection to the origin of the C19 virus. The

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In a textbook case of mistaking absence of evidence for evidence of absence, Peter claims that because WIV didn't publish a SARS2 progenitor before the pandemic, they must not have had one. It's an odd line of reasoning to take on Covid origins, because if we would have had

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In 2 days the WHO hosts the 3rd annual Covid19 research conference; Tedros, Farrar, Fauci, Horton, 100+ discuss ending current& future pandemics. Amazing the agenda specifically ignores SARS2's origin. Wondering if conspiratorial to view this as bullshit?

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1 year

Seems ironic as the CIA whistleblower story grows, eating big chunks of media airtime, that we still know not one whit about any of the evidence pointing the FBI, DOE &now possibly the CIA in the direction of a LL. Despite a law being passed to force disclosure of this evidence.

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New paper, two main findings: (1) SARS2 spillover to humans occurred sometime betw August & October 2019, (2) horizontal gene transfer of the spike gene from BANAL bat CoVs in Laos to pangolin CoVs in Guangdong occurred in mid 2018.

Assessing the emergence time of SARS-CoV-2 zoonotic spillover

Understanding the evolution of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) and its relationship to other coronaviruses in the wild is crucial for preventing future virus outbreaks....

journals.plos.org

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2 years

Am I reading this right, isn't this classic handwaving? She just gets through saying the evidence shows the animals were NOT carrying virus, when suddenly she backtracks into mere conjecture implying that maybe the animals WERE carrying virus.

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Finally biosecurity experts chime in on origin. The premature over-eager dismissals of LL by the "zoocrew" are weird &questionable to them as well. H/t @emilyakopp "Our research shows that we should not dismiss a lab leak as a fringe conspiracy theory. The motives and vested

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Peter re: you labeling me a "crank' & conspiracy theorist for citing evidence the WIV housed live bats. Where's your apology? And, generally, labeling me a "crank" for not blindly accepting information you were spreading that I knew, as a scientist, was false. So, get a life,

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The new Rasmussen poll is truly amazing &I hope Democrats in Congress finally take note. However, as I recall from another poll, a high number of Chinese netizens believe the virus came from a US lab. A propaganda war is raging &we s/b wary of traps. Being "not sure" is ok.

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And 7 1/2 months later >>> Nothing. So what was all this talk about "a scientific advisory group aimed at identifying the origin of COVID-19"? What the heck's going on? Who holds the WHO to account?

WHO launches a new group to study the origins of the coronavirus

The World Health Organization advisory group will include scientists from the U.S., China and two dozen other countries and will study various hypotheses, including the possibility of a lab leak.

www.npr.org

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