The
@SundaeSwap
RISO has increased
#Cardano
$ADA decentralization to a k-effective of 43.22 from 40.58 (in e319). Single pool operators grew to 25.70% from 16.97%.
@binance
also grew from 12.07% to 12.32%. This is industry leading decentralization towards k-effective =💯.
#Cardano
@EpochsEnd
349:
Decentralization is not improving. 🫤
Coinbase is up to 2.1B and making blocks again.
K-effective = 36.55
Nakamoto Coefficient MAV = 22
Let's hivemind peer/stakeholder review CIP-50 for improving
#Cardano
decentralization. CIP-50 for Nakamoto >50! Link to the full proposal, stakeholder reviews/discussion, and supporters list:
I've generated a chart of the historical K-effective of
#Cardano
$ADA. Thanks to
@InsightsCardano
for the pool group staking per epoch data. IMHO k=40 is solid
stable decentralization, worthy of praise, superior to other cryptos, and also leaves room for improvement.
$ADA is a hard-money commodity like $BTC.
Some tokens are
@SECGov
securities.
Some tokens are worthless
@hoskytoken
👀.
#Cardano
is not an exchange or security.
#Cardano
is the financial operating system.
Comments by the SEC Chair relevant to crypto-securities, crypto-exchanges, and crypto-commodities including
#bitcoin
starting at 1:08:02 in this hearing.
#Cardano
$ADA needs to apply diminishing rewards to entire groups of pools which grow too big. The Conclave collective pool protocol and Voltaire governance will be needed. We can smoothly grow through Basho on K-eff=40. Let's table multi-pool vs single-pool debates for Voltaire.
#Cardano
@EpochsEnd
353:
K-effective = 35.83, MAV = 21
CIP-50 Update:
Reformatting all charts. Adding pool ranking recommendation (
@TheStophe
). A new OSS simulation suite will investigate 5-10 equations for an independent study & paper. The hivemind grows.
At the beginning of Epoch 323 at the conclusion of the
@SundaeSwap
RISO
#Cardano
$ADA centralized by about 1.2%, a K-effective decrease of 0.56. SPO's dropped below 6B total stake and the top 15 multipool groups are unchanged.
Epoch 324 has proven that the decentralization gains made by
@SundaeSwap
RISO were temporary. Single Pool Operators have lost 1B stake over the last 3 Epochs.
#Cardano
$ADA K-effective sits at 40.85. Mathematically justifying K=750 over K=500 is impossible. K=100 is reasonable.
Re: 8/4 SPO call.
The CIP-50 community hivemind is going to help align the reward equation with Cardano values and publish RSS-rev2. More minds, more ideas, more stakeholders, more opinions, less centralized: debating, agreeing, disagreeing, and scheming on: decentralization.
🧵
#CIP1694
: "there will be an interim Constitutional committee, also specified in the next ledger era configuration file".
@IOHK_Charles
, you want to hand-pick a committee, however, Cardano can flex its principles at the SEC with an SPO-led CC election.
Please reconsider.
@coryklippsten
@IOHK_Charles
@CryptoWendyO
Like BTC, no inflation on Cardano ❤️ (45B max).
BTC's nakamoto coeff is only 4! 4 NSL's w feds to 4 pool operators and BTC is 51%'ed. Imagine if Intel only sells Blockscale ASIC's to 1 government? Miners can't move fast to reverse a 51% fork from >6 confirmations 😢.
@conraddit
The K-effective of
#Cardano
$ADA is currently 40.72.
I also realized there are 3? big whales earning >5.0% yield with entirely pledged private pools. I'm 'grabbing a shovel' and starting to author a CIP for decentralization. Anybody interested in helping?
@RichardMcCrackn
Mempool control.
Information asymmetry.
Transaction origin tracing.
Transaction delaying.
Block producer tracing.
Block battle advantages.
Trading advantages.
Could be fun to get their code, backdoor it, neuter it, and spy on their RPC flow.
I support fixed-supply hard money
#Cardano
$ADA. We aren't perfect but our MAV~22 can improve and full project decentralization will be achieved during the Voltaire Era upgrades. Cardano isn't limited by Satoshi Nakamoto's original sin ASIC blind spot.
@InputOutputHK
⚠️ There are 4 inaccurate sentences in this article which won't become true until after CIP-50 revises the rewards sharing scheme. We are going to fix this 💪.
@benohanlon
ctrl+f: "fairness", "equally-sized", "consortia", "bolsters".
#Bitcoin
Nakamoto Coeff dropped to only 4! 😢 If the SEC, IRS, CFTC, andor NSA Equation group each took control of 1-2 of the largest block producers
#Bitcoin
would be pwned & rekt. The hardest money in the world 🌎 deserves a decentralization >50, ideally >💯.
A Thread🧵on why
#Bitcoin
is different to the other 19,000 altcoins👇
Lets investigate some of the ''safest'' ALTs that've imploded in 2022🔻
Starting with Luna, it's crashed 99% this month, falling from over $120 per coin to essentially 0, losing $35B of Market Cap value
1/
Today
@TheStophe
and I are adding Rob Bird
@conduit242
and
@JaredCorduan
as authors of
@Egalcoin
. Rob started everything in mid-2022 by convincing me that I shouldn't volunteer to change people with different values and principles. He convinced me to volunteer for something which…
@sol3gga
@_LadyChristina_
Thank you both and I look forward to working with both of you in the Members Based Organization! I'm also really looking forward to the Blockchain Decentralization Index!
@SmaugPool
@shawn_mcmurdo
CIP-50 is the process for decentralizing the analysis, governance, values, and principles of the Cardano reward equation. These are just the beginning steps to growing a robust hivemind.
Join the discussion on the CIP-Editors Discord:
@RichardMcCrackn
I was sad to see the MSPO vs sSPO conflict and a biased reward equation when I joined Cardano in February. CIP-50 and k-effective exist to heal this divide, align value & principles, and correct the true problems: excessive leverage, inequality, and decentralization.
I highly recommend all SPO's to attend and active listen tomorrow, do your homework, read the blog post, read CIP-50, submit questions early, and share your questions publicly on Becky's thread for community transparency.
👉🏼 ICYMI: In this call we’ll have Prof. Aggelos Kiayis, IOG’s Chief Scientist, join us to share more on his latest research, which compares alternative reward sharing schemes for Cardano. If you have a question you’d like to ask, please add it to the survey linked below!
(2/3)
@adamKDean
The sooner we realize that maximum fairness and maximum decentralization is the mandatory minimum for a blockchain the better we all will be. You can do centralization, taxation without representation, and oligarchies, but should we?
No. People come to Cardano and Ergo craving…
@IOHK_Charles
EDI needs your leadership influence. They need a website, a page for each chain, and the relevant charts-of-merit for each category on like
from
@BalanceData22
.
EDI:
@GilbertStClr
and
@TheStophe
can teach the server-side skills.
@mrkennybones
@Allison_Fromm
@RichardMcCrackn
Why 1 board like Linux Foundation?
Why not 6 ? (With many sub councils, standards bodies, clubs, cons, committees, ect...)
"These Infinity Stones each control an essential aspect of existence: Space, Reality, Power, Soul, Mind, and Time."
There will be a 🔥 CIP.
@Redd_Spark
@monad_alexander
Cardano and Ergo are the best we have so far, but they have permanent uncorrectable problems and limitations. I want to see the CIP1694-HF realized. I have sold 0 ADA despite beginning
#Egalcoin
for a chance at superior principles and values.
@bigpeyYT
The most important milestones will be earning Voltaire governance and a decentralization Nakamoto Coefficient of 50, then 100. We can ignore market cap and keep on building.
@twobitidiot
Have a Conflict of Interest page listing all beneficial ownership, analysts holdings, and amounts. Ensure the annual crypto report's Conflict of Interest section is in the first 10 pages and includes author holdings and amounts.
@dominatingSlash
@alexkaplan0
As with all science let's wait for replication, confirmation, and review. I personally would have written a paper AND made a simple YouTube video of a chunk of this stuff levitating a magnet on a glass table.
@Cardano_CF
An Annual Report should include the audited consolidated balance sheet, consolidated income/spending statement, auditor letter, custodial bank letter, and blockchain addresses. Swiss non-profit laws may have additional required guidance for compliant annual reports.
@adatainment
"If you want to incentivize decentralization, don’t incentivize centralization 😜" --
@conduit242
IMHO the slope should always be 0.0 or negative with an enforced pledge leverage limit.
#CIP50
@IOHK_Charles
I'm going to lobby for another parameter: Tau-prime, the Treasury payout rate limit. It would be similar to Rho, the reserve payout rate limit.
Tau and Tau-prime, the Treasury fill rate and payout rate, would establish a smooth fiscally responsible treasury equilibrium.
@brentwoodfan1
@Redd_Spark
@monad_alexander
- Centralized permissioned foreign ICO.
- Founders and foundation concentration.
- Founder created as a VC venture, not as a selfless philanthropy.
- Emurgo and CF ineffectual for years.
- Founding orgs paper hands cashout.
- Federated ledger not bootstrap from genesis safe.
-…
@bigpeyYT
BLOOM could become 1 pool and join the
@CardanoSPA
if k was set to three times the current k-effective (~120). Let's fix the high leverage failed RSS-paper and whiteboard a more secure less leveraged, fair, and decentralized Cardano together. 🤝
#CIP50
: MAV>50, K-eff>💯 💪
@cardano_whale
We will get Ouroborus Leios eventually, make sure the incentives are solid, and be on our way to MAV>50 with a chain throughput of O( 86,400 blocks ~8.64GB per day). Easily 20x current performance.
💪
@conraddit
@adam3us
is smart, has a Ph.D, but is confused by the word 'elected' versus cryptographically random mathematically eligible to create a block. He doesn't realize that BTC PoW has a 10 minute difficulty whereas breaking the VRF requires age of universe difficulty classically.
@bigpeyYT
"None" with this description included as metadata is the best way to signal to CF what you really want your stake and pledge to stand for officially on-chain.
@BalanceData22
and many others have done exactly that, voted None with an added description.
@IOHK_Charles
, 🤞please steer the principles and whiteboard an 'ideal' (group stake vs leverage chart) and (yield vs stake chart).
@sol3gga
, focus on the multi-chain decentralization index.
@_LadyChristina_
, thank you for all your coding and please consider joining the hivemind.
@IOHK_Charles
@BalanceData22
@GilbertStClr
@TheStophe
Haters can already legitimately claim conflict of interest from the IOG donations and your chief scientists dual role at both Edinburgh and IOG.
You are still correct: an impartial university-led resource for government, policy, legal, and corporate decisions is necessary.
Today at 18:00 UTC on Cardano Live Dr. Michael Liesenfelt
@DrLiesenfelt
will be on the podcast to talk about a draft CIP he authored based on network parameters. Join us in the chat and ask some Qs! 4:00 PM EST.
#Cardano
#Ada
#CardanoLive
#podcast
@_KtorZ_
@MatthewPlomin
Cardano is distributed on 3000 validator nodes.
Cardano is decentralized to ~38 groups on average (k-eff 38) with a 20 group 51% majority (MAV20).
@liberlion17
@IOHK_Charles
I'm behind on but still owe the community an RSSv2 paper. Research updates in the (Matrix : Cardano Professional Society: RSSv2) room.
It may be beyond debate. If the MAV drops too low I will start a new Blockchain in 3-5yrs for a generation 1 growing-MAV decentralization dream.
@Nicholas_Merten
I'm a nuclear guy and U,Th is essential.
With the Tornado Cash and Treasury sanctions madness, one positive is coming out of it:
People are FINALLY realizing max(MAV) is absolutely essential to crypto.
If you think BTC is decentralized, it isn't. BTC & ETH MAV is 3.
ADA=21.
@hoskytoken
Imagine if he could delegate stake to 32 decentralized community pools without a yield penalty.
#CIP50
Maybe I need to disconnect, ignore, and build...
@Padierfind
@IntersectMBO
Intersect is a 'venture studio' style nonprofit corporation controlled by IOG staff at IOG headquarters. The officers and financial account holders are unelected.
@IOHK_Charles
I'm guessing you XRF'ed it.
A
@ZEISS_Group
xradia X-ray microscope can nondestructively image the interiors and grain boundaries/orientations. I think
@ORNL
's Manufacturing Demonstration Facility has one.
@IOHK_Charles
Bitcoin/PoW was never aligned with Tesla's core mission statement, values, and principles. Tesla/Elon is destined to pivot from PoW to PoS.
@StakeWithPride
The difference between $30 ADA and $300 ADA is global reserve currency adoption and decentralization: MAV>300.
Hopefully Voltaire saves Shelley.
Here's my 4+ hour conversation with
@saifedean
about Austrian economics, anarchy, history, money, power, and Bitcoin. He has strong opinions, but they're backed by a brilliance and a systematic way of thinking that makes for a fascinating conversation.
@liberlion17
I recommend
@InputOutputHK
operates only 1 private pool, then delegate the rest of the stake across the
@AllianceXspo
.
If IOG complains about 'not making as much', tough, suck it up, you made RSSv1, support decentralization and make less.
#RSSv2
will fix this with Voltaire.
@KenricNelson
@AdamRusch
Cardano was designed to centralize and the SEC is scaring IOG to CIP1694.
My $0.02:
We do our best for 1694, then MAV minPoolCost k a0 RSSv2. I'm at peace, if MAV drops I make a new chain in 2026 starting with a constitution, PoS+PoW, P2P, 0-preallocated, fulfill gen1 max(MAV).
@technologypoet
Leios needs to be on hold until after governance, after reward sharing scheme corrections, and likely IMHO an Ouroborus cadence update running on testnet. It is impressive, incomplete, and has unmet dependencies.
@trydedd1746001
@bigpeyYT
Bitcoin, Ethereum, Cardano, Monero, and Ergo exist as live experiments testing hypotheses & models for the future of the industry.
People who follow the best principles, values, ethics, and integrity are learning and building a new home.
🦅🪙 : 🗽⚖️
@Egalcoin
@HoneypotLambda
I'm doing what I'm doing for pools like you, but the math of the 2*MAV, k-effective, and gov-MAV is the harsh sum total of all decisions.
@KenricNelson
@AdamRusch
Cardano was designed to centralize and the SEC is scaring IOG to CIP1694.
My $0.02:
We do our best for 1694, then MAV minPoolCost k a0 RSSv2. I'm at peace, if MAV drops I make a new chain in 2026 starting with a constitution, PoS+PoW, P2P, 0-preallocated, fulfill gen1 max(MAV).
CIP-50 isn't just a proposal, it is a new process: an inclusive community-led stakeholder hivemind Research and Development (R&D) effort. We have an independent research paper to author and publish!
@cardano_whale
Satoshi made a "catastrophic" mistake unaware of ASICs (tiny 32bit header nonce!) & centralized fabs. BTC MAV has dropped to 3 and OFAC-style censorship could be the longest chain new normal. Ergo: memory BW & die area is more commodity, but maybe not enough for breakaway MAV??