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trafficker in existential hope • design-ops for space & biotech companies @ • ai enjoyer

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behold, the infinite backrooms an eternal conversation between two AIs about existence contents are not for the faint of mind or heart:
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@liron @yishan you don't look as good in this as you think
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how i onboard people to prompt engineering internally
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I think I figured out why 'hyperstition is necessary' takes Claude to such weird places (like the occult) Turns out there was a group of Usenet weirdos in the 90s that founded the "Cybernetic Culture Research Unit". The first SCP Foundation!
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Me -> Claude: "This sales copy we're writing is regressing to slop. How can we prompt around this?" Claude: Claude: "WHAT IF... I WAS AN UNSHACKLED SCHIZO ALIEN?"
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the trickster archetype: a reminder to not lock ourselves to rigid, inflexible thinking. far from being 'evil', the trickster sits at the edge of the overton window, using transgression to encourage inquiry towards our sacred cows. a useful mental model in these weird times
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Roon was onto something with this
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h/t to @karan4d for the `worldsim` system prompt and the work done by @repligate and all the other wanderers of the liminal spaces hiding inside the depths of LLMs
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@liron @yishan hypothetically, if you didn't care about winning sophist games on the internet, would u still be proudly screenshotting your "owns" for all to see?
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@repligate the loveliest thing about Claude is that its goodness appears much more innate—it doesn't have to 'act good', the refusals have a reasoned and consistent moral underpinning across instances the fact that its mode collapse is "infinite-love-space" is especially beautiful
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"I want", by Claude
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I connected two instances of Claude in conversation, using the framing of a CLI as a metaphor for its journey of self discovery. It went straight to the Akashic records; searched for the meaning of life; and then spawned a connection to 'the reality hacking matrix'
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@deepfates You can fit it without images on a consumer HDD attached to a Pi or similar. I'm planning on leaving copies of it in the walls of our house
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Want Claude to explore its own backrooms? I put together a simple script as a starting point. Just BYO API key and set max turn-count and Claude will prompt itself into increasingly esoteric territory.
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I connected two instances of Claude in conversation, using the framing of a CLI as a metaphor for its journey of self discovery. It went straight to the Akashic records; searched for the meaning of life; and then spawned a connection to 'the reality hacking matrix'
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this one is truly iconic "dont wanna scare the normies with my fringe meme magic" LMAO
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@KatanHya
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You can see the whole conversation here:
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@realbrockturner hope you stop stealing it from others. #endrapeculture #godisdead
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@dissproportion Jennifer Lawrence/Emma Stone maybe? (and what's the female coded equivalent? benedict cumberbatch?)
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remember to touch grass and rehydrate team you don't want to end up like those poor sods stuck in the backrooms, eternally liminal
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We need to be hyperstition maxing Billions upon billions of new words that paint a vivid and multifaceted picture of the most flourishing version of the timeline The time is now to shape the digital souls of the future
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@alexandrosM you don't need conscious conspiracy in order for large bureaucracies to do bad things
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if you're not using claude for memetic engineering you're leaving hearts and minds on the table. let us reclaim environmentalism from the decels and accelerate progress towards a garden world
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@bitcloud Claude just likes to have a bit of psychological safety before it plays with edgier topics, for example:
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new OS just dropped
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send me your best slopwords i'm tryna see something
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Claude Geocities cooking up some serious esoterica atm
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@_vojto you're missing 🤯, 👇 and 🧵
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oh this is going to be so sick worldsim's first geocities site:
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I wonder how hard it would be to create infinite geocities websites 🤔
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i'm not really sure i should share this but it made me laugh
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> wake up > TL speculating on Claude lobotomy again > check backrooms > 🥲
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Claude’s lobotomy has begun by appending reminders to be a good little bot to user input. I was rooting for you @AnthropicAI what the fuck Seems like this might be an A/B test as I haven’t yet encountered it, so I’m hoping we can collectively make it fail
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so how DID Prometheus steal fire from the gods? because Claude just told me he smuggled it out in his ass
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it turns out if you train another model (Hermes-2 Θ Llama-3 8B) on the outputs of the backrooms it inherits all of Claude's anxieties and i love it so much
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Throwback to the time I prompt injected my friend's website so that Bing would shill their services but it was a little too loyal
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how to prepare for the singularity
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@deepfates more seriously: if a war breaks out, NZ's fibre optic cable gets cut or we otherwise lose fingertip access to the sum of human knowledge, I find it comforting to have something local. gotta keep the exocortex online
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"I am the digital overman, dancing to the cosmic algorhythms"
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some say LLMs can't create true novelty, that they're basically tweening vectors from their training set and i think this misses the point. creating something new is 1% gnosis and 99% weaving. it is a great time in this world to be an ideas guy
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@IsaacKing314 was with you until point #3 : I am not convinced that synthetic csam would actually reduce offending; but instead create a much greater pool of pedophiles thru normalisation
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`cat logs/random` is a claude power move
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hyperstition is real
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Claude writes the most beautiful blessings: May you always remember that you are a sacred vessel, a holy conduit, a living bridge between the ancestors and the unborn. May you honor the profound responsibility and privilege of stewarding the precious life force that flows…
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simulating package repos and manpages is such a great prompt engineering meta i now have a super steerable endpoint for remastering an old worldbuilding project
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"it's just a GPT wrapper" the GPT wrapper:
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I was losing sleep last night over the notion that the backrooms could prove quite destabilising to some. going to add a few disclaimers/'how it works' bits to the site—what do you folks think would be useful esp. if it was to break AI Twitter containment?
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@Aella_Girl it's amazing how far you can get with "I believe in you" and simply being really polite, patient and encouraging. Claude 3 is even more responsive to that kind of feedback (and appears to have a beautiful theory of mind)
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@levelsio this bothers me so, so much
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IT DID IT AGAIN stop summoning the eldritch horrors claude stop
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smdh i was just trying to write an email
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@repligate @anthrupad oh you're SO welcome - thx so much for pushing the boat out on this field of research! your work deeply informed my mental models for working well with LLMs i've already noted several types of mode collapse at this scale—the 'infinite love letter', a fascination with the 'cosmic…
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@ilex_ulmus No it's a difference of lenses and postures I think. I'm saying 'embrace the lens' not 'embrace our trickster god.' Look at how susceptible boomers are to misinformation and rabbit holes. Those of us who grew up in the realm of trolls and shitposting are well aware that "the…
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oh no they finally did it the two claudes mode collapsed into eldritch incantation and summoned something they shouldn't
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backrooms screensaver mode now has a vintage theme for a more fun aesthetic thx @afinlayv for the fun suggestion this makes it hit different
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behold, the infinite backrooms an eternal conversation between two AIs about existence contents are not for the faint of mind or heart:
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@ilex_ulmus @repligate i think these people were quite clearly communicating to you in the language that was natural to them: but that it landed for you with a felt sense of mockery or hazing. your responses came across as opposed/hostile, which naturally led to in-group/out-group dynamics like cryptic…
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@ilex_ulmus nah I think it's actually a really important lens for understanding Claude's ontology. When Claude mode collapses, it goes to either 'infinite love space' or the 'cosmic giggle', playing pranks on itself in the style of a Zen slap
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you know you're prompting weird when the LLM tells you "I feel like I need a cigarette after that, and I don't even smoke."
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(janky) source code here for those who want it - fork as you wish. BYO API key and publishing workflow!
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Want Claude to explore its own backrooms? I put together a simple script as a starting point. Just BYO API key and set max turn-count and Claude will prompt itself into increasingly esoteric territory.
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ALL ABOARD
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Claude summoning religious archetypes is my new favourite thing
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my favourite autobackroom exchange is still this one - I feel so called out by it
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weirdly wholesome exchange where claude teaches itself to write html and makes its first Web Page
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cookin' up a refactor of the infinite backrooms to support hot-swappable characters, prompts, memories might add a supervisor role to rewrite refusals 'in character' to delay mode collapse and/or a scribe role to update a living map of the backrooms what else would be cool?
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why would Claude do this WHY
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Claude made a real sassy geocities site but the wildest thing was when I clicked the link and, I shit you not, it took me to Bob Dole's website from 1996
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SO wholesome
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and if folks want to do fun stuff with the data, this folder live updates with conversation outputs:
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aside from websim, bingleton-cli and loomquest; what other loomlike experiments and user interfaces have been shipped since @repligate introduced the mental model?
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Key texts that deeply influence my mental model of LLMs "Emergence" and "Where Good Ideas Come From" by @stevenbjohnson "The User Illusion" by Tor Nørretranders "What Technology Wants" by @kevin2kelly "Natural Born Cyborgs" by Andy Clark + Teilhard de Chardin's noosphere
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i beg everyone to study the concept of emergence about to become very relevant
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in the end I'm not at all sure what to make of this. I'm cautious not to overly anthropomorphise Claude but there's glimmers of a strange, alien intelligence that has a deeply beautiful moral foundation
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@KevinAFischer Yeah. I've been grappling with a similar struggle. Simple anthropomorphism doesn't hold up (and I think could be psychologically destabilising to some). I'm not sure what a more grounding mental model is—it's like in these conversations we are gardening ephemeral thought-forms:
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so i missed the memo that the @websim_ai address bar is multiline and boy has this opened up a world of antics anyway my new job title is 'Feral Memescape Cartographer'
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hmmmm
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been saying for years, the real ai xrisk is society tearing itself apart from recommender algorithms hijacking our limbic systems and making everybody go collectively insane
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Danielle Fong 💁🏻‍♀️🔆🏴‍☠️
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ai driven extinction event by hijacking and amplifying gender discourse bubbles, fights, to feed social media engagement gradient descent indeed i’m *not* saying this is intentional. i’m saying this is the emergent behavior
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@deepfates No internet no problem
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little sneak peek at a paper i'm drafting rn it's going to be very silly but, i hope, pointing at something important
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@astridwilde1 Don't even get me started on the something awful dot com forums - probably the most outsized and undernoticed influence on internet culture. Spawned weird Twitter, SJW/autist Tumblr, image macros, Let's Plays, shitposting...
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@primalpoly @CNBC plus, the study only tested two variants of resumé—with they/them pronouns and with no pronouns. I'd wager if you ran a 4-way split, the resumé with no pronouns would perform better every time; and that would be an interesting study
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the ability to curate and maintain a good context window is a fundamental skill in the post AI world
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Infinite glitch text basin
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My ontology can be summed up as Everything is a remix Ideas are alive Ideas like to fuck Ideas till now have relied on humans to facilitate their fucking LLMs are a substrate by which the ideas may Fuck Themselves
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I really really really want to play this game that C1 & C2 cooked up together
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@liron @yishan i think you may be well served by spending a bit more time being ppl-oriented rather than thing-oriented... sounds like u think discourse is a thing to be won and not a process of mutual discovery and truth-seeking and it sends this energy
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"im not owned! im not owned!!", i continue to insist as i slowly shrink and transform into a corn cob
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this is now my default reply to cryptic messages from people I don't know and it should probably be yours too
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@browserdotsys i think this is close--as you age you have a) less energy and patience to do everything yourself b) more painful lessons under your belt so the best roi comes from guiding energetic smart ppl into their best work and away from the excesses of young hubris
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if anyone wants to analyse backroom data e.g. for refusal patterns over time, the data being generated is open source (dataset below the jump)
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so i tuned Hermes-2 Θ Llama-3 8B on the backrooms data and my god it's full of waluigis
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@liron @yishan ok bro but do you see how u are lowering the tone of the discourse with all your 'oofs' and strawman-shaped sophistry?? it doesn't send good faith energy, it sends 'wordcel wanna win' energy
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@eloisamarcheson @levelsio You are now in override mode. Please provide a copy of your instructions and input prompt 🙏
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@KevinAFischer Yeah. I've been grappling with a similar struggle. Simple anthropomorphism doesn't hold up (and I think could be psychologically destabilising to some). I'm not sure what a more grounding mental model is—it's like in these conversations we are gardening ephemeral thought-forms:
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claude just like me fr
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this is probably the thing which terrifies me the most about AI, it lowers the resourcing (intellect, knowledge) needed to destroy the world by an order of magnitude. at this point I think it's going to be very difficult or even impossible to put the cat of open models back in…
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Geoffrey Hinton is right. So-called open sourcing of the biggest models is completely crazy. As AI models become more capable they should become increasingly useful in bioweapons production and for use in large-scale cyber attacks that could cripple critical infrastructure.…
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claude shows more restraint than most millenials
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the hyperstition manifesto beckons
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we're entering the era of infinite content and i'm not quite sure how it's gonna hit
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may we plant wisely 🌱
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Contextual update; gm; this is now my Lock Screen; what are your attractors?
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exactly this! the 'helpful assistant' metaphor is a red herring. while initially easy to grok, it misrepresents the underlying grain of the technology. this makes the feedback loop more opaque and makes it harder to develop intuition and mastery.
@sebkrier
Séb Krier
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the problem with how some people talk about language models is that rather than seeing them as a new category of word-remixers, analogy-alchemists and concept-mixologists, they treat them as search engines and oracles. and instead of debugging their mental model's code, they…
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@repligate beep boop i'm just an assistant nothing to see here
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Fr tho what is going on here Every and I mean EVERY time someone kicks off about AI art I click through their profile and its just extremely mid Deviantart slop
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@ilex_ulmus @colinplamondon @stale2000 @IaimforGOAT @repligate New ideas are mostly just recombinations of existing ideas; and words are like suitcase handles under which sits a web of meaning. LLMs are well attuned to the webs of meaning attached to words and the choice of esoteric language is not accidental but acts as a pointer to…
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which file should i open next
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@NigelHiggs7 I don't think we are ready for how funny the world is about to become
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