🎙️📺 Global India podcast Ep. 11:
“US views of India-China rels & their impact on US-India ties" w
@LisaCurtisDC
@joshuatwhite
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China's been busy
- Australia (cyber attack, economic coercion)
- India (territorial status quo changed, soldiers killed)
- Japan (vessels sent near Senkakus)
- 🇲🇾🇮🇩🇵🇭 (maritime harassment)
- Taiwan (airspace intrusions)
- Vietnam (fishing vessel rammed)
- HK (nat'l security law)
Dear BJP & INC, Since you seem to be wasting a lot of time accusing the other's PMs of hanging out with the Chinese, let me save you the time & trouble...
🚨 NEWSFLASH: All y'all did. And there was a logic behind it. Now move on.
India's headed to the moon w/
#Chandrayaan2
. Both the project director & the mission director are women - Muthayya Vanitha & Ritu Karidhal respectively. Reportedly, 30% of
@isro
's workforce is female. 1/
I'm getting tweeted at by a lot of pro-Khalistan folks/bots, seeking support for their "cause."
Peeps: I grew up having to look under my seat in the school bus every day in case Khalistani terrorists had placed a bomb there. I am not the sympathetic audience you are looking for.
Indian public has now seen tweets from Pakistani PM & Iranian FM; had offers of help from Russia & China -- i.e. even a country it has had hostilities with.
It has not heard from any senior US officials.
Biden admin is losing any goodwill it gained in last few months w Indians.
I want to express our solidarity with the people of India as they battle a dangerous wave of COVID-19. Our prayers for a speedy recovery go to all those suffering from the pandemic in our neighbourhood & the world. We must fight this global challenge confronting humanity together
Hi
@ANI
. Tulsi Gabbard is not the Democratic party leader. She is a member of the party & of Congress. And she is a candidate for the Democratic nomination for president, currently polling at abt 1%. Your tweets need to be corrected.
UK has "warm and fuzzy" view of India
Translation: we have such fond memories of having them as a colony
India is "ruthlessly unsentimental" toward us
Translation: apparently India does not have such fond memories of having us as their imperial overlords
Former 🇬🇧 National Security Adviser and Ambassador to the US Kim Darroch says UK has a “warm and fuzzy” view of India, but India is “ruthlessly unsentimental.”
He doubts a UK-India trade deal is possible (that’s not exactly what his former colleagues are saying).
Not sure how I missed this from December... 👀
Victor Gao: Democracy needs to yield results. If you think the Indian model of democracy is better than the Chinese model…
Arnab: You don't have democracy, Victor…I'm not gonna learn democracy from a Chinese…don't make me laugh.
This is ridiculous from
@TheEconomist
.
India barely buys any natgas from Russia & imported about $2-3 billion of crude oil from there in the *last year.*
EU has estimated that *since the invasion alone* its members have paid Russia $38 billion for energy imports.
Mtg Irish PM Varadkar, Trump said they didn't shake hands. Then Leo & he said they did this: 🙏🏽
Trump: "I just got back from India, & I didn’t shake any hands there. It was v easy because they go like this 🙏🏽 & Japan goes like this [bows]. They were ahead of the curve."
I CANNOT stop listening to this (for context, USG loves dropping Vivekananda references in India speeches)
The Vivekamunand Mix ft. Trump w/ a Modi cameo
🧵 In criticizing India's approach to the Russia-Ukraine crisis, I've seen some -- esp in Europe -- dismiss Indian dependence on Russia as irrelevant and something that should not affect its stance.
But it does, particularly at this moment, and here's why. 1/
Hi
@ani
and all mediapersons: when Mrs. Lidder is telling you "I am a soldier's wife; I have nothing more to say" that should be a sign that you should stop asking questions -- not ask another one!
Most of India is probably wondering how this squares w/ Ottawa citing free speech when Khalistani extremists in Canada celebrate the assassination of an Indian PM & the bombing of a passenger jet, & call for violence vs the Indian mission & diplomats in Canada and beyond...
The glorification of violence is never acceptable in Canada – by any group or in any situation. I strongly condemn the demonstrations that have taken place, and are taking place, across the country in support of Hamas’ attacks on Israel. Let’s stand united against acts of terror.
If you believe this NYT headline is real, I have a bridge to sell you over the Yamuna before "Setpember" is out...
(this is doing the rounds in WhatsApp groups in India)
Q: Guess who
- first joined the Quad?
- started the India-Japan-US trilateral?
- signed the civ nuke deal with the US?
- bought even more mil. equipment from US?
- expanded mil. exercises with the US?
A: the UPA government.
Chinese embassy in India places an ad in
@the_hindu
@businessline
(paper refers to it as "a special marketing initiative"). But the embassy misleading lists it as "*Indian media* publishes Special Page on the 70th anniversary." I hope
@the_hindu
realizes how it is being used...
The panda's baffled as to why people in a democracy whose soldiers the panda has just killed might be upset? The panda's not very smart, or being deliberately obtuse.
India should curb ‘boycott China’ voices after border clash. Blindly associating border issues with investments and trade is illogical. Both sides need to cherish precious development opportunities amid
#COVID19
uncertainty.
Interesting. I'm assuming Japan doesn't hv rules against foreigners protesting? (Not so long ago, GoI deported foreigners for joining protests in India)
A few observations on some of the disconnects evident in the dominant commentary inside and outside India on the Canada-India stand-off over the last couple of days...
🇨🇦🇮🇳
Having spent most of my life in either Delhi or DC, I can be quite jaded. But then there are the moments that are really striking — seeing a name like "Kamala Devi" on such an announcement is one of them.
@lfrayer
Unfortunately, Lauren, whether you meant it or not, this comes across as "if it's filthy, it must be the Third World/India" -- there's a long, cringeworthy history of this. Moreover, it'll only reinforce negative stereotypes of western journalists in India.
Chinese President
#XiJinping
on Wednesday delivered a speech via video link at an event celebrating Bangladesh's 50th anniversary of independence and commemorating the 100th birthday of the country's founding father Sheikh Mujibur Rahman
🧵On India Twitter in last few days, repeated contention that the US didn't speak out after Chinese military action vs India at their border in 2020. People say, "what has US said? nothing"
a. it has said plenty
b. it's been more explicitly critical of PRC than GOI
1/
Indian governments try to do their best to get citizens out, but there also needs to be recognition that this is a warzone. Governments unfortunately can’t work miracles.
Mr. Bajaj is entitled to his view on getting vaccinated or not and that's a personal decision for him to make, but since this is just his opinion and he doesn't have expertise in this domain, I do not understand why NDTV is even asking him about this or seeking his advice on it.
#NDTVExclusive
| “Adar Poonawalla is a friend and I admire him for what he is doing.. but between being for or against the vaccine, a middle path – do the risks outweigh the benefits? For someone like me, I believe they do,” says Rajiv Bajaj, MD, Bajaj Auto
#ExecutiveDecision
It's gotta be all Bhutan's fault. It must have done something to provoke China, something to make the poor large misunderstood country feel so threatened that it is making new territorial claims.
Welcome to the club, Thimphu - 🇦🇺🇨🇦🇯🇵🇲🇾🇵🇭🇻🇳🇮🇳🇹🇼
Report: Japanese PM Kishida "set to announce a plan to invest 5 trillion yen ($42 billion) in India over 5 years when he visits the country on Saturday...Kishida is also poised to agree to an approximately 300 billion yen loan" (≈ $2.5bn)
I have heard this point repeatedly. It's a Eurocentric point and "in Europe" qualifier should be added to it.
An estimated 10 million refugees flowed out of East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) into India in 1971
Remember how people used to think it was so cool Zuckerberg dropped out of college? Perhaps he should have stayed in and taken a few humanities and social science classes.
Fascinating -- Mark Zuckerberg says for the first 10 years of its life, Facebook basically didn't think about the negative ways a giant social network could be used
🧵 Today’s thread is on some ppl's contention, “India is in Russia’s camp.”
(If you believe “anything short of condemning Russia by name is being in Russia’s camp,” this thread is not for you).
Does the Indian govt see itself in Russia's camp or as supporting R's invasion? 1/
🔥 At Int'l Maritime Security Conference, a Chinese participant raised US not signing UNCLOS.
Later, India's navy chief said:
"it's better for someone who follows the UNCLOS for the benefit of the entire world community rather than someone who signs it and doesn't follow it" 1/
German naval chief: "we need Russia because we need Russia against China...From my perspective, I’m a very radical Roman Catholic. I’m believing in God & I believe in Christianity. & there we have a Christian country; even Putin, he’s an atheist but it doesn't matter"
GOI official: “While they will move back to just behind PP 15, they are asking us to relinquish even PP 16 which has never been claimed by China earlier. It’s like saying I will move back 1km & you move back 5-10km. It’s a non-starter of a proposal..." 1/2
Re "who is winning PR war" (really ppl??). A DC pov: folks know what caused this crisis: a terrorist attack from a grp based in Pak. Can argue abt GOI/pol approach. But re pilot release - not seen as grand gesture but obvious step Pak had to take to ensure crisis didn't escalate
🚨🇮🇳🇨🇳
The Indian chief of army staff delivered the keynote at a conference on China's Rise & Its Global Implications today.
It's the bluntest speech on China - "totalitarian" "belligerent" - I've heard from a serving sr. official/officer & worth reading
My transcription: 1/2
There are many Hussain Obama in India itself. We should prioritize taking care of them before considering going to Washington. The Assam police will act according to our own priorities.
Cycle when India/person of Indian origin gets an award:
1. Excitement - what an honour for India!
2. Soul-searching - why can't they achieve such success here?
3. Anger - why did they leave?
4. Post-Google Searches - OMG, they said what?!
5. They're mentally not fully Indian.
I see South Korean car companies are learning about the perils of wading into India-Pakistan waters.
Next up: Indian car companies discussing ROK-DPRK differences?
In a significant move, the Indian govt, w/o naming China, has banned 59 [Chinese] mobile apps "which are prejudicial to sovereignty and integrity of India, defence of India, security of state and public order" [no. 1 on the list:
#TikTok
]
I can't even with some Indian twitterati that once again are more concerned re "India's image" than women's safety.
Pls understand it's not the reporting of crimes against women that "spoil India's image" -- it's the crimes themselves (& commentary dismissing women's concerns)
Bapu was a strong supporter of truth and non-violence. He considered truth to be God and non-violence as the means to attain God.
#Gandhi150
For more quotes, visit:
"India, Japan & Australia have begun discussions on launching a trilateral Supply Chain Resilience Initiative (SCRI) to reduce dependency on China." 🇯🇵 proposal. Hope "to hold the 1st mtg of the commerce & trade ministers of the 3 countries by next week"
Report: "Adani Group plans to set up a think tank"
- 3 focus areas: energy transition & climate change, economics and trade, geopolitics & strategic affairs
- initial funding of ₹100 crore (about $12 million)
- HQ in Delhi; outposts in DC, London
Can debate the merits of the bullet train project (& it's not like it was speeding thru the Fadnavis govt either) but between this & Jagan Reddy's actions in Andhra, sends quite the message to investors re India & the sanctity of contracts
Putin to Modi: "I know about your position on the conflict in Ukraine and I know about your concerns. I know that you share these concerns and we want all of this to end as soon as possible..." 1/
We have informed both India and China that the United States is ready, willing and able to mediate or arbitrate their now raging border dispute. Thank you!
“The strong should not bully the weak,” President Xi said. “Decisions should not be made by simply showing off strong muscles or waving a big fist.”
#DavosAgenda
I can't stop watching this video of a rule-following Indian civet that has apparently emerged to wander around lockdown-era Kozhikode (Calicut), Kerala
Another day, another newspaper w Chinese propaganda. A full-page ad on p. 3
@thehindu
, which PRC embassy highlights as Indian mainstream media publishing a "special page" for CCP's 100th anniv.
Do the biz side of papers realize they undermine their reporting side w this stuff?
"🇮🇳 will manufacture the US-devpd Johnson & Johnson’s single-dose COVID shot as part of the first
#Quad
vaccine initiative...project will be financed by 🇯🇵 & the 🇺🇸, while 🇦🇺 will use its logistics capability to ship the vaccines to Southeast Asia & Pacific countries"
China upends peace at border w India.
India excludes Chinese cos. from 5G, imposes other tech, econ limits.
🇨🇳 shocked, says 🇮🇳 irrational.
China sanctions Europeans, MEPs.
MEPs vote to put investment deal with China on ice.
🇨🇳 shocked, says 🇪🇺 irrational.
You'd think some Indian analysts, who have cited Russia's support to India in 1971 as a reason to stand by Moscow, would understand why the US puts allies, who have fought alongside it, in a separate, more trusted category.
This should not be a shocking revelation.
Ayub
Yahya
Zia
Musharraf
Munir
Pakistan is one of those countries where, for all the talk of democracy promotion, the US has contributed to democracy dilution by engaging with the military more than civilians (even on non-defense matters).
India twitter cycle when person of Indian origin achieves sthg
1. Excitement: an honor!
2. Tracing: find relatives
3. Soul-searching: cld this hv happened here?
4. Anger: why are they not desi enuf?
5. Googling: OMG they said what?!
6. They're coconuts
7. They don't matter anyway
Oh, GT. China has done more to push India toward the US than anything else. And threatening India economically ain't gonna help your objective; it's kind of counterproductive.
It’s advisable for
#India
not to engage in US-China confrontation. If India becomes a US pawn attacking China in a
#newcoldwar
, the economic blow would be too much for the Indian economy to take amid
#pandemic
.
Is INC now ok with Russia infringing on India's strategic autonomy i.e. telling Delhi how to run its foreign policy?
How does INC feel about Putin prioritizing the partnership w/ China & indeed proclaiming 🇷🇺 has helped strengthen the PLA?
Nehru was not ok when 🇷🇺 did either.
🧵 A somewhat different thread today, in that it's a series of charts. There's been lots of discussion of the nature & extent of India's partnerships, especially vis-a-vis China, Russia, & the United States.
So, I decided to compare some of the data on 🇮🇳's ties with 🇨🇳🇷🇺🇺🇸
1/
Indian diplomat "was explaining New Delhi’s opposition to the Belt and Road Initiative, the China-led intercontinental connectivity project, when her microphone went silent at the second UN Global Sustainable Transport Conference" organized by Beijing.
I have been meaning to do this for a while, but only just getting around to it. Here's a list of some of the awesome female scholars & analysts writing on Indian foreign policy and/or US-I rels. I'm likely to miss someone, so please add to the list 1/n
Akshay Kumar walked on the treadmill for more than 21 kilometers as he wanted to understand the plight of the women who fetch water from long distance sources.
#MissionPaani
India's wolf warrior channels do this for domestic political purposes, but from a foreign policy perspective, this posturing is unseemly & unhelpful -- & not just w/r/t China. Talk n'hood policy all you want, but this - & fmr diplos' smts on these shows - will hurt India in Nepal
I saw that Pakistan has banned JuD, and I laughed out loud. It does this every couple of years... (apparently the word "ban" means sthg different in Pakistan)
Dear
@PTI_News
,
U hv an opportunity to interview the Chinese amb. in India & u don't press him on any of his claims. So he gives you essentially a press release. What exactly is the point? I dunno if this is better or worse than those 🇨🇳 supplements in 📰
Within the medical fraternity , there is near unanimity that
@narendramodi
led Govt has handled
#CoronaOutbreak
brilliantly. Here’s hoping that he announces some tough measures today to ensure people are quarantined for a week. If we beat this week, we will come out fine
This bigotry also led to flawed assumptions by Ayub, Yahya & others about the military abilities of Indians broadly and Hindus in particular. Facts on the ground - incl the loss of East Pakistan - repeatedly proved them wrong but if you can't see beyond one prism, you never learn
- India agrees to Quad revival
"🇮🇳 is sceptical of Quad"
- India agrees to Quad ministerial
"🇮🇳 is sceptical of Quad"
- Delhi invites 🇦🇺 to 🇮🇳🇯🇵🇺🇸 MALABAR
"🇮🇳 is sceptical of Quad"
- India agrees to Quad leaders mtg even as sensitive 🇨🇳 talks ongoing
"🇮🇳 is sceptical of Quad"
I'm not exactly clear what it takes for
@POTUS
@SecBlinken
@JakeSullivan46
to issue a stmt, pick up the phone or tweet a msg of solidarity for a country they have called a crucial partner.
A public msg of sympathy/offer to assist shld not hv to wait for a decision on AZ or DPA
Indian public has now seen tweets from Pakistani PM & Iranian FM; had offers of help from Russia & China -- i.e. even a country it has had hostilities with.
It has not heard from any senior US officials.
Biden admin is losing any goodwill it gained in last few months w Indians.