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#SaveOurWills
Petition to UK Parliament (shown below)! Please help us
#SaveOurWills
! This petition will go live once signed by 5 supporters. You need to be a British citizen or UK resident. Sign now, don't delay:
Do you collect your ancestors' signatures? I have heard that somone created a family tree of them. I often wonder how far back I might be able to get in an unbroken chain... although I may have to settle with 'the mark of' my ancestors instead!
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#Genealogy
So you want to know why the death duty registers are so important? This is one reason why... so many notes trying to trace someone... ‘supposed to have gone to America’ and ‘deserted wife and children who have been in workhouse’ are just two of the many annotations.
#AncestryHour
Hold on a moment… You want to *DESTROY* the originals, but have been in your Time Machine to check that the digital files will be preserved “for centuries” and that the technology will still allow them to be accessible?
#FamilyHistory
#Genealogy
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Are you a history or ancestry enthusiast? We’re proposing to digitise millions of wills dating back to the 1800s, making them easier for the public to access.
Take a fascinating look into our storage archive in Birmingham and have your say:
I may have treated myself to an early Christmas present… it was a pain carrying these back on the bus and trains, but I made it. 🏋️ One of the archive staff said: “You do realise your book buying is the only thing saving us from bankruptcy?”
#LocalStudies
#FamilyHistory
Never give up hope of finding photographs of your ancestors! These are my 4xGGrandparents, Alfred Harris and Patience Parker in 1926, shortly after their 61st wedding anniversary. I have never seen a photo of them before today!
@photogenealogy
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#OldPhotos
I helped my mum prepare for a family history event. It included a mini-case study looking at my great-grandfather who was a Barnardo’s Boy and British Home Child and the sources available for research. This is him in 1926 just before he was sent to Canada.
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This is definitely not something I do but I’ve purchased a group of photos that are all the same family (not my family) and are all named and some are dated. I would like to blame
@photogenealogy
, but it’s entirely all my own fault! 🙈
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#Genealogy
#OldPhotographs
Thank you everyone! We’ve breached the 10k threshold to elicit a response from the Government, but we need to keep advancing. Something is only out of reach or impossible if we believe it to be so. Let’s set our sights on the 100k prize and claim it!
Catriona Crowe, who worked at The National Archives of Ireland, said the destruction of the Public Record Office was: “…an act of cultural vandalism… For a long time people didn’t realise what we had lost.” She speaks of digitisation:
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I can only imagine that the church official misplaced his vestry minute book… and when he eventually found it (having started another book) recorded these words. 🤷🏻♂️ The rest of the pages were blank.
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#Archives
In other NEWS... 🗞️...look who was accepted as a full AGRA Member today! Wahoo! 🥳 Also...
#SaveOurWills
1. Respond to the consultation 2. Sign the petition
I love opening boxes filled with neat bundles of documents tied up with pretty pink ribbons. In this case I was locating an original will, but sometimes you don't know what you might find!
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NEWS 🗞️ on
#SaveOurWills
! I have been informed today that “the Government received over 1200 responses largely drawn from the historian, archive, and family history sectors.” Thank you everyone for the time you took to respond! I think
@MoJGovUK
will be busy!
#FamilyHistory
I came across this book in The National Archives' bookshop that - published at the end of last month. Teach Yourself Palaeography: A Guide for Genealogists and Local Historians by Claire Jarvis. Might be one for the
#ChristmasList
as it covers Latin.
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When you open a box of records spanning two centuries... not knowing what you're going to find! So much more in here than in the catalogue description... always worth checking!
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We have now reached 8,000 signatures and counting! We are now the 60th most popular open petition and have reached yet another of the remaining constituencies! Please continue to share and sign. Thank you so much!
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Pleased to say that I have just received a distinction for the first Advanced
@PharosTutors
course I have taken; Researching Online for Advanced Genealogists. Awaiting results of the second course, submitted yesterday.
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Monday TOP-TIP! If you're looking at military records, the image quality on FindMyPast is far superior to Ancestry. I also find the search at FindMyPast easier to use. Don't forget the indexes to the pension ledgers and index cards or Ancestry though!
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#Genealogy
We can make it to 8,000 or more before midnight, can’t we? YES! Let’s do this… who haven’t you invited to sign the petition? Please also respond to the consultation and write to your MP.
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You never get the same experience with online research as having the actual document in front of you. It can be important to interrogate the document and not just the online image. You can learn so more about the document.
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#Genealogy
Have you ever come across memorial cards? Here's one from 1870 that includes additional information recorded in a journal... "Mr Richard West was a very handsome looking person..."
@SocGenealogists
also has a database of their collection. Check it out:
I have just published a blog post on
@MoJGovUK
's proposals to destroy original wills (link below). Included is a list of three actions that I encourage you all to take to help
#SaveOurWills
. I welcome your feedback, please add your comments on the webpage.
NEWS JUST IN! 🗞️
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In a 22 Jan letter, Mike Freer, MoJ JusticeMinister, states: "...we have already received several hundred responses, largely drawn from the historian, archive and family history sectors..." Have you responded? Deadline: 23 Feb
Remember this video from
@MoJGovUK
trying to disguise a *bad* thing with shelves of lovely documents? Now you're not quite so outraged by the proposals to destroy almost everything you see... watch again. What do you notice? Here are a couple, but add your own.
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Are you a history or ancestry enthusiast? We’re proposing to digitise millions of wills dating back to the 1800s, making them easier for the public to access.
Take a fascinating look into our storage archive in Birmingham and have your say:
Some good reasons from The Guardian as to why original wills should not be destroyed after 25 years by
@MoJGovUK
after digitisation, as is proposed. Please make sure you respond to the consultation. Details below.👇🏻1/2
NEWS JUST IN: 🗞️
@MoJGovUK
has misrepresented the annual spend to store and preserve wills by ~£1m per year! Interestingly, there were no meeting minutes held relating to issuing the consultation. It didn’t come out of thin air! 🧐
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BREAKING NEWS... The government proposes a better system for access to wills, including original wills and associated documents. I submitted a test FOI request earlier this year for a copy of an original will, which was not available via the online service. 1/
Some lovely news this evening! I received my results for
@PharosTutors
’ Manorial Records Advanced Course, achieving a Distinction at 94% - even better than I had imagined. 😅 Caroline’s Zooms were great and helped showcase the records. Thank you!
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Why have I not come across this book before? It’s full of interesting information, but only a few lines about a particular topic I’ve been looking into.
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I have been quieter on social media recently, so I thought I would show you some of the records I have been looking at. These are bundles of discharges from the Fleet Prison. Who said you didn't get your hands dirty doing archival research?
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#FleetPrison
Did you have an ancestor who was a merchant seamen? These are bundles of crew lists and agreements, very helpful for tracing a seaman's movements and the ships they served on. These records are found in two UK archives, as well as one in Canada.
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Who's that baby with his great-grandfather? Oh, that would be me! If only he knew that little baby would end up answering questions about who his paternal family were. I wonder what he would have made of it?
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Researching criminal ancestors? This volume is a calendar of indictments at the Central Criminal Court, formerly the Old Bailey. Make sure you also visit this great online database:
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This is why we need to
#SaveOurWills
!
@MoJGovUK
plan on destroying them after digitising them. Digitisation is great for access, but it does not preserve the original documents. Please sign and share the petition:
Have you ever used the Hearth Tax records in your
#FamilyHistory
research? This is an exemption certificate from the early 1670's with 200 names... plus all those parish officials.
#Genealogy
Does anyone remember a kitchen like this? This is well before my time... but do you know what the device clampted to the worktop might be? I think I have a good idea having seen something similar before!
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When genealogists talk about there being 'gaps in the historical record'. Here there are literally gaps in the document, but not all documents are lucky enough to have survived, even in partial form!
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Until recent years I had never seen a photo of my 2x great-grandparents, George Henry Holt (1873-1950) and Alice Butterfield (1878-1960). I think my grandad looks a lot like his own grandad.
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#FamilyPhotos
Last week I met with my 1C1R and his sister-in-law. I now have more photos of my 3x g.gmother and one of my 3x g.gfather! One of the family photos dated c.1895 includes my 2x g.gfather as a young boy.
#AncestryHour
This is what we mean when we say ‘the materiality’ of physical documents. Simply beautiful! So much will be lost if MoJ destroy post-1858 wills! Sign the petition:
#SaveOurWills
Respond to the consultation; write to your MP.
Quick visit to the parish church of Great Missenden, Buckinghamshire. It was really interesting to see this large wooden board. “A TABLE of KINDRED and AFFINITY wherein whosoever are related are forbidden in Scripture and our Laws to marry together.”
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Something you don't see too often: Certificate of Registry of Death and Coroner's Order for Burial. Both examples were to be given to the undertaker or person in charge of the funeral.
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With the help of my great aunt, who has given me her old NHS Number, I believe I’ve been able to locate where my grandfather is in the 1939 Register. Now to make a request to open a closed record and see if I’m correct!
@findmypast
@AGRAGenealogy
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Roger Bartlett, former barrister and part-time judge who dealt with wills claims writes: "I would suggest that it is not only historians and genealogists who should oppose this misconceived proposal. Lawyers should also be concerned."
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Woke up to a message on
@AncestryUK
from a DNA match to my mum and great-aunt who replied to my message that was sent 4 years and 2 months ago. I now know that we both descend from my 3xGreat Grandparents who came from Northumberland.
#FamilyHistory
#Genealogy
#DNA
NEWS JUST IN: 🗞️ My appeal against the ICO’s Decision Notice was paused while the Tribunal considered the ICO’s application to strike out my case. The Judge decided: “The Commissioner’s application to strike out the appeal… is refused.”
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Here's another reason why churchwardens' accounts are essential sources! This volume included a list of the settlement certificates that the churchwardens held. None of the originals survive for this parish, so this record is even more important!
#FamilyHistory
@Howto_History
Locating signatures is one way that can help provide new avenues for research. For example, they can help separate multiple people with the same name or verify you have found a record relating to the same person. How have they helped you?
#Signatures
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NEWS: 🗞️
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The Petitions Committee have been contacted (see link) and inaccuracies in the Ministry of Justice's response have been outlined. The MoJ performed a cut-and-paste exercise, but failed to check the response was current and accurate.
I viewed an absolutely fascinating collection of school records yesterday, still held by the school! The first page of the earliest admission register listed two of my 3x g-gfathers. A collection of documents from the late 1920s-40s showed how WWII affected the school.
#Genealogy
Who has blacksmiths in their family? I wonder who can guess what the item standing on the floor might be? This is in Garston Forge, which has now been relocated at the Chiltern Open Air Museum.
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Sometimes you get lucky and find a sketch-plan of the properties in the 1910 Finance Act field books. Here's a rather colourful plan from the Bledlow field book (IR 58/39387, Ref: 238).
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It was a more modern celebration today as my daughter turned 10. Hopefully something she’ll remember in years to come. She likes purple dragons. I remember my great gran saying ‘oooo double figures’ as I approached my 10th birthday. I remember I got a camera.
#AncestryHour
What’s on your
#Genealogy
reading list this year? This book arrived in the post today after I tracked down a copy. I’m looking forward to getting stuck in, particularly with Chapter 3, Changes of Name.
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Responses to
@MoJGovUK
consultation are in! In other news, we’ve coloured in the map! There are signatures from all 650 constituencies plus 37 other countries. Petition is still open and closes on 9th July 2024. We are waiting for responses.
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So the museum curator had left these workhouse account books for Wisbech, Cambridgeshire dating from 1701 on the desk. Looked very interesting and haven’t seen anything like them before.
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On my way to London for an
@AGRAGenealogy
meeting. Walking to the train station down the footpath beside the High Wycombe cemetery, just meters from some of my ancestors’ graves.
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Some light reading (following the Barrister’s response for the MoJ) from the 1485 page tome on ‘Information Rights’ by leading authority Philip Coppel KC. Lo and behold, it mentions *original wills* as public records, and sets out how such records are subject to FOI.
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If you haven't used estate or family papers before then you're missing out! This is just one bundle from a wider collection that I viewed recently, it included records such as probate documents, extracts from manorial records, receipts and deeds.
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😲 I'm tagging
@MoJGovUK
so they can see this! I always wondered what those boxes of papers and parchments were that I regularly use in series PROB 10 at
@UkNatArchives
! Now I know... they *are* wills of the non-famous! Please sign and help
#SaveOurWills
:
NEWS JUST IN: 🗞️
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Petition Response Received: It has been lifted from letters sent by Mike Freer and Alex Chalk and reads as though views are still being sought. This is not good enough. The £4.5m figure is still being claimed as accurate.
So this happened at the end of last year. I can’t complain with a distinction and an average pass mark of 92%. If you’re thinking of taking a
@PharosTutors
course - then do it! Looking forward to chatting with my students on the Apprenticeship Records course later this week!
30th September 1712: "Paid to a Woman in Labour to get her out of [the] Parish" 1 shilling. It was a real issue to have children born within the parish boundaries that would need financial support. There were a number of similar entries in this volume!
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! This isn't a will, it's a WWII service record from TNA. I questioned the quality and was told the only thing that could be done was to provide a transcript. Can you see why having original wills might be impotant? and
Have you located any of your ancestors graves? I finally found my 3x great grandparents grave having overlooked it at a cemetery on two occassions. Notice the buttercups left by my niece and nephews.
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We've just hit 9,000 signatures! Only 1,000 to go before we elicit a response from the Government. Let's keep going! Also... respond to the consultation! Details are here:
#SaveOurWills
Read the full response from
@ARAUK_IE
to
@MoJGovUK
’s proposals to destroy original probate records after digitisation. They make some very valid points!
#SaveOurWills
Look how close we are to 10k signatures! This is the first stage where we call the Government to action. Can we make it by the end of the day? Please give this a huge push! Share in all of your groups, with all your contacts, in any way you can think of to help
#SaveOurWills
.
In November, I'll be talking about National Registration and understanding the 1939 Register as part of a much wider set of records. The 1939 Register is only the tip of the iceberg... learn what records exists and how to access information.
@AGRAGenealogy
Local newspapers are a great source of family history information. Many are available online as part of the British Newspaper Collection, but many can only be found at libraries and local archives.
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When you're researching a family and find that the youngest child was only a day old when the 1881 census was taken on 3rd April.
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Evening
#AncestryHour
! I have recently left
@UkNatArchives
. I’ve been shut off from the rain and the outside world. I researched the early career of a Captain in the Merchant Navy, despite not knowing the ships he was on. Knowing the shipping company’s fleet was essential!
Today, a wonderful lady located the death date of my ggg-grandfather in her grandfather’s diaries, left to her in his will. Her grandfather bought a diary for 3d on 6th May 1933 and wrote every day until he died in 1971, filling over 27 volumes. ‘Mr Ashby died [Witchell?]’
One of my favourite photographs of me and my great-grandmother, Peggy Doreen Batting née Ashby (1923-2004). She was saying something funny and tickling me at the same time.
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Sometimes you have to take a moment to appreciate the beauty of the various records we handle. This design was on the front cover of a volume of vestry minutes.
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Where were your 8 G-Grandparents from?
High Wycombe
High Wycombe
High Wycombe
Hammersmith
Bledlow Ridge
Jarrow
Bledlow Ridge
Bledlow Ridge
You can see why I list Buckinghamshire research as one of my specialisms, right? 🤔
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#Ancestry
Canterbury
Stoke Newington
Bristol
Stoke Newington
Sedgley
Sedgley
Smethwick
Sedgley
This prompts questions on what is meant by “from” - something family historians wrangle with constantly. (1/2)
There's only 80 signatures to go until we reach 10k! We are soooo close! If the number continues to rise, we might make it to 10k before midnight!
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The
#SaveOurWills
campagn has reached people worldwide. Thank you to signatories in Armenia: (1), Australia (43), Austria (1), Belgium (1), Brazil (1), Canada (31), Cyprus (1), Denmark (2), Finland (1), France (29), Germany (6), Greece (1), Cont... 1/
Do you have any stories about seafaring ancestors? There's all sorts of information in ships logs. "Keep lookout for man overboard." I came across this in passing, but I wonder if he was ever found.
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As I’ve said before, this is why original wills are so important and why I’ve been pursuing MoJ re: access to an *original will* rather than the registered copy which I was sent (via. Iron Mountain/HMCTS). Don’t let them be destroyed - sign:
#SaveOurWills
@WandaWyporska
@holtsfamilyhis1
Extra information included in the original will not found in the registered copy - this is why the originals are of such great importance. Prior to yesterday I never knew he had been in Charleston!
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Thank you for your support today with the
#SaveOurWills
campaign. Things are now on the up and we are no longer the 65th most popular petition, but the 63rd! We have also reached another constituency. Well done! Let's keep going... we can do this!
MORE NEWS JUST IN: 🗞️
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I have requested an internal review of my FOI request. Some of you explained that a point made by MoJ amounted to effectively saying the public were ‘too stupid to understand something so complex’. Here's my request:
The National Probate Records Centre Re-Procurement project is planning to establish a new 10 year contract at a cost of £50m. The current contract of 25 years will expire on 27/7/24. This might be another reason for the embarrassingly awful wills consultation. 1/
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