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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

13 days

🚨I am moving my Monday Morning Newsletter to Substack. 🚨 Below is the e-mail I sent to all who subscribe to my Monday Morning Newsletter. I wanted to also share it here. Backstory: On March 25th, 2022 - I sent my first I Help Pastors Get Jobs Newsletter through Mailchimp. It…

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

11 months

Remember friend. A $5 iced latte a day is $25 a week, $100 a month, $1200 a year. After 10 years.. that’s $12,000! Which is still nowhere near enough to put a down payment on a house so enjoy your espresso in peace.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

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An alcoholic friend of Philip Yancey once said to him: “When I'm late to church, people turn around and stare at me with frowns of disapproval. I get the clear message that I'm not as responsible as they are. When I'm late to AA, the meeting comes to a halt and everyone…

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

11 months

Spent an hour coaching someone on how to do their job who probably makes twice what I do. I told my mother in law how frustrated I felt by that. She said, “now you get a glimpse of how women have felt for 50 years.”

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

8 months

What happened to fast food being cheap? My family of 5 went to Chick-fil-A. Bill was $64. It’s fried chicken, not wagyu.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

1 year

Celebrity pastors are cool but have you ever met a small town preacher who has faithfully served their not so glamorous community for 40 years and no one ever heard of them? Those people are the real heroes.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

3 years

I studied theology & bible and I am not a psychologist. When people in my church request therapy, I refer them to a professional. If they can't afford it, our church pays for it. Why? Because I studied theology and bible and I am not a psychologist.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

1 year

In 2014, I was “fired” from a church because I wouldn’t let my wife be free labor. I was told to sign an NDA or w’d be homeless. We lived in the parsonage. On my healing journey, I met many other pastors who had similar stories. That is my why. PS - I was there for 5 days.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

3 years

A megachurch pastor sat with a group of urban pastors who had small congregations with limited resources in rough neighborhoods. The megachurch pastor proudly announced, “We want to adopt you & help you grow.” One urban pastor spoke up and said, “Funny, we had the same idea.”

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

2 years

Celebrity pastors are cool but have you ever met a small town preacher who has faithfully served their not so glamorous community for 40 years and no one ever heard of them? Those people are the real heroes.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

1 year

Church hiring committees will literally put you through 5 rounds of interview over 10 months to offer you 30k a hear with 2 weeks PTO.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

12 days

No idea who this man is but boy is he preachin' a word.

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Pastor Loran Livingston tore the church up with this one.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

11 months

All these people, “I bought a house with 12k down!” Click their profile. Location: Hell, Michigan.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

1 year

Someone told me “liberals today would cancel Fred Rogers for his traditional views on gender” As someone who has studied Fred at length, conservatives would have canceled him way sooner. 👀

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

8 months

Church hiring committees: we want a married pastor with kids. Pastor: what’s the salary? Church hiring committee: 40k a year! Pastor: And benefits? Church hiring committee: 2 Sundays off annually and a subscription to rightnow media!

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

10 months

If I were to church plant again, I’d start off by creating a daycare. There is such a need for quality childcare in this nation. I’d use that as a funding stream and hub to meet people and let the church blossom from there.

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

5 months

Name an American who had a public life that was a better Christian in the last 100 years than this man. I’ll wait.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

6 months

To the other dads on Twitter, I have a 1 year old, 4 year old, and 5 year old. Taking care of them gets easier with each year. Don’t believe the parents of adult kids who tell you the toddler years are easy. They have amnesia.

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

1 year

I don’t know why I need to say this in 2023, but it’s unethical to pay single people less than married with kids people. The rate is the rate.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

1 year

I am not opposed to seminary, I loved seminary. BUT to have a person pay for a 50k+ education and 3 years of their lives for a career that will mostly likely result in leading a small to medium sized church, never earning more than 70k, you have to admit, something is off.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

1 year

In 2014, I was “fired” from a church because I wouldn’t let my wife be free labor. I was told to sign an NDA or w’d be homeless. We lived in the parsonage. On my healing journey, I met many other pastors who had similar stories. That is my why. PS - I was there for 5 days.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

1 year

Deconstruction is cool but have you ever gone to a church full of addicts, the unhoused, others on the margin of society with a humble, gentle, soft spoken pastor? I did this for 6 months when I was mad at God and it made me rethink my privileged positions and find Jesus again.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

5 months

I have very young kids. My life is chaos. Let’s just put it this way. I go to work to relax. My coworker is an empty nester. When I tell him stories about my kids, he responds “I’d give anything to have my kids be that age again.” And all I can think of, is you go home and…

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

7 months

I do not understand traveling sports teams for kids. Seems like lots of time, energy and money for a 10 year old to play soccer.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

2 months

10 years ago this week, I had the most traumatic experience of my life... in a church. It was a Friday. 2 days later, I went to a different church to worship. It was Redeemer Upper West Side, when they had a 7pm service. I sat in the back row, mostly shellshocked at what…

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

1 year

Im chewing on this idea I heard recently: “Solo Pastors of small and medium sized churches have to be able to “shepherd” people and “manage” the day to day business of an organization. Two distinctly different skills, and it’s no wonder they’re exhausted.” Truth to this?

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

7 months

Part of moving is finding a new church. Now I’m not picky but if the dad is the lead pastor, mom is the associate, son is the youth pastor and daughter is the worship pastor, I’m scratching that off my list right away.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

1 year

Church hiring committees: “We want a married man with children as our next pastor.” Pastoral candidate: “Well do you provide a living wage, health insurance, retirement and PTO?” Church hiring committees: “Paul didn’t have those things! Pastors today have no grit!”

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

10 months

never seemed to bother the other worshipers being in the service. As a parent with 3 young kids, getting to church is really, really tough, especially after 7 years of church planting. We usually leave more exhausted than we came but this was a nice mix. We'll go back Sunday.

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

1 year

Just asked a youth pastor how much he earned a year and his response: “On paper, 35k but the church automatically deducts my tithe so technically 31.5k.” 🫠

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

4 months

As a pastor, I would do one counseling session for a church member, then refer them to a professional. I think it’s important to know your lane.

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

2 years

Nobody: Church Hiring Committees: we are looking for a married men between ages 35-50 who can teach, preach, develop leaders, manage budget, plan outreaches, perform weddings, funerals and be available to care for us at 24/7/365. Staring salary: 30k.

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

11 months

A very real question to ask aspiring church planters: If your community already had a dozen churches that hold Sunday services at 11am and yet the majority of the community is not in church, why is starting another church that holds a Sunday service at 11am the solution?

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

6 months

Churches wanting to reach young families should really pray about a casual, kid friendly, Saturday 5pm service. This Sunday morning struggle bus is real.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

8 months

Why is it that if a pastor serves a church and works a job, we view that as a failure but if a pastor serves a church while writing books and speaking at conferences, we view at that as a success. It shows what we value.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

1 year

Two churches in same town: one shrinking, one growing. A reporter asked the pastor why they’re shrinking to which the pastor said, “because we preach the gospel.” The reporter asked other pastor why they’re growing to which the pastor said, “because we preach the gospel.”

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

8 months

We have a 380k loan. If we pay it over 30 years, we will pay just shy of 1M. This is with no debt, and perfect credit. Why is renting “just throwing away money” again?

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

6 months

I used to be an Airbnb purist and super fan but in general, it has gone south post covid. I’m now team hotel. It’s normally cheaper, breakfast is included, it’s cleaner and you’re not required to do any work before check out.

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

1 year

Boomer Christians: “Trump is God’s man to save America.” Also Boomer Christians: “Why don’t my grandkids wanna come to church anymore?”

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

10 months

Pastoral board: “We know the salary is low but our previous pastors wife worked and carried the insurance to help offset the cost.” Pastoral candidate: 👍🏼 (6 months later) Pastoral board: “why isn’t your wife leading 14 ministries in the church for free?”

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

1 year

Church Job Descriptions will legit say: “Church of 65 seeking full time pastor. M. Div required, D. Min preferred. Must have at least 10 years experience as lead pastor of church 200+ in attendance, must be 35-50 years old, married with kids, starting salary 35k / year”

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

10 months

My family attended a new church on Sunday and my 5 year old went to kids church, my 3 year old hung out with me in the sanctuary and the 1 year old went with my wife to the baby / crawler room. After service, my wife texted me the code to pick up our 5 year from kids church

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

6 months

Anyone who thinks hard work is the remedy to poverty should spend time in places of concentrated poverty and realize it’s full of hard working people. It’s tough to admit but luck is also a massive factor, starting with your parents and zip code.

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

11 days

People who leave their hometown to move somewhere where they don’t know a soul are built different.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

8 months

I resigned from my job today so I can share this. After 10 years of life & ministry in The Bronx, my family of 5 will be relocating to Lancaster County, PA next month. I accepted a role as Director of Learning & Development at a great company. Happy and sad, but grateful.

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

4 months

How to get financially ahead as a millennial. 1. Cook more meals at home. 2. Never order coffee out. 3. Buy used cars. 4. Time travel so that you’re 18 in 1975 and get a union job and a 40k home. 5. Do staycations instead of travel.

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

11 months

How can pastors think it’s ok for their wives to work to pay for their seminary education but not ok for them to preach?

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

3 months

In all my years of seminary, I was never once trained on: How to deal with a pushy guy who wants to sell his MLM to church members after service. How to deal with the ambitious real estate agent who keeps posting her listings on the church Facebook group. How to deal with…

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

1 year

The thing I like about mainline church services over evangelical church services is that in the mainline churches, the personality of the pastor is not the center of the service.

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

4 years

Don’t quote me on this but I’m imagining we are going to see a surge in micro churches in the next 5-10 years and more Christians desiring to meet in homes around dinner tables than a large Sunday gatherings. Pastors, let’s be wise and plan accordingly.

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

10 months

What is it about reformed theology that reorients humble, kind people into brash, smug know-it-alls? I mean, think about it, how many people join a Pentecostal church and 6 months later are arguing with their grandma over xenoglossia? But you know calvinists would.

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

6 months

Mechanic for an oil change on a Saturday morning and talked for 4 hours. He held my 3 month old and fed her a bottle while I ate my lunch. I don’t remember what we talked about but that memory is seared on my brain and probably will be forever.

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

11 months

When I was a pastor, I proposed we did a once a month service and then the other Sundays, do small groups. It was shot down by one guy. Who came to service about once a month.

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

2 months

The average church in the US is 65 people, I’m not an anti church growth guy but to me 65 seems like a sweet spot for churches. Small enough to be close knit, large enough to have classes, programs and events. Also a new person can visit without it being (too) obvious. The…

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

10 months

On the walk back home, I thought how grateful I was that a church took child safety so seriously. Honestly, I wasn't crazy about the service, not my style but my 5 year old had a great time, my wife could enjoy the message from the baby room and my 3 year old, though squirmy

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

6 months

A few years ago, I had a church planting coach who wanted to meet me, a bivo planter in nyc who at the time had a 1 year old and 3 month old just out of NICU. I told him, sorry but no. He told me I’ll help you run errands and he did. We went to the grocery store, pharmacy and

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

7 months

What do you when you’re a pastor in a church and a member is deep into a pyramid scheme? So much so that when you say they can’t present it to the church, they think you’re forsaking God’s will for the community? Asking for a friend 👀

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

2 years

I just watched a 12 year old YT video where Mark Driscoll and Joshua Harris and piled on Francis Chan for his decision to leave his large church. This aged... strangely.

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

6 months

Churches that do 8am men’s breakfasts on Saturday morning, why? That’s prime Home Depot and yard work time. Why not a 11am brunch?

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

1 year

This morning I attended a mainline church in Manhattan, and they prayed for Tim Keller, and his family. Christian Twitter is not the body of Christ.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

6 months

Fred Rogers is the epitome of masculinity. I said it.

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The Feminist Misogynist

@igarglewithfire

6 months

What opinion about men will put you in this situation?

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

8 months

I never got the whole church size = health thing. There’s healthy small churches and healthy big churches. There’s unhealthy small churches and unhealthy big churches. Why don’t we stop judging butts in the seat (or lack thereof) and maturity of disciples being formed.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

8 months

Here’s the problem with hiring (churches and otherwise): Most organizations say they want a leader to bring change. They don’t. They want someone to manage the status quo and get mad when they try to lead and bring change.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

5 months

I offered him to come babysit for The Weeknd for old times sake and he quickly told me he and his wife are going skiing.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

11 months

I hear this often in evangelical churches, and occasionally in other spaces Have a weekly date night with your spouse. No matter how busy you are, how many kids you have, or what’s going on, make it a priority. Seems stupidly unrealistic for most people, including self.

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

5 months

If you’re a pastor and you have people in your life who will never walk into the 4 walls of a church but you’re one of the first people they call you when: - They lose their job. - They’re having an internal crisis. - Their marriage is in trouble. - Their kids are stressing…

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

2 years

Is this a small church problem or all church problem? About once a year, we have someone come to our church, usually a man, and wants a leadership position within weeks. When we don’t give them one, they get offended and leave. Anyone else?

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

10 months

Every Monday morning, I pray for bivocational pastors. Can you imagine pouring yourselves out mentally, emotionally and spiritually during a Sunday service and then waking up Monday morning and going to work? That’s what these heroes do week in and week out. God sees you.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

8 months

Whenever I find myself arguing with other Christians about fine points of theology, I have to remember at the end of my life, Jesus is not going to say: “Well argued, my good and faithful theologian, enter into my library.”

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

6 months

Visiting a new church today and feeling optimistic! I told my kids after, we will go to the Chick-fil-A with the indoor playground. Gonna be a good Sunday! 😎

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

5 months

Hard work and hustle are overrated. You know what’s underrated: observing a day of rest religiously, using all your vacation days, having hobbies that serve no purpose other than having fun, being an adult who has friends. That’s the good life.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

1 year

Three signs of a mature Christian. -the unwillingness to be easily offended. -the extraordinary capacity to forgive -the simple ability to laugh at themselves

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

3 months

I never liked the phrase “that church plant failed” If the gospel was proclaimed, people were discipled and lives were changed, why does it matter if that particular body lived 6 months or 60 years? Phrases like that above are rooted in capitalism, not kingdom.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

10 months

Why can’t we find any quality youth pastors? The expectations: Be the part time social media / graphics guy, leader of leaders, builder of ministries, gritty galvanizer, and *checks notes* a people… magnet?

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

5 months

I don’t know why I need to say this in 2023, but it’s unethical to pay single people less than married with kids people. The rate is the rate.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

9 months

Going from 0 kids to 1 is disorienting. But 1 to 2 wasn’t bad. 2 to 3 was just as disorienting as 0 to 1. Maybe worse. I’m not gonna find out what 4 is like.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

1 year

Hundreds of phone calls with pastors who want corporate jobs, their top reasons (in no particular order) Health Insurance, Retirement, So my wife can be SAHM Reasons never heard: I want extravagant vacations, I want a Tesla or sports car, I want a second home.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

5 months

This may hurt some feelings but here goes. Stop saying you’re not administratively gifted. No one is. It’s a learned skill. And here’s the thing. Paying attention to details, keeping a calendar, responding in a timely manner to people, keeping a close eye on important…

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

11 months

Feel called to ministry? Learn a marketable skill. Get a secular job. Develop healthy emotional and social practices. Pray a lot. Serve as one of many lay or part time pastors at a church. Enjoy the ride.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

6 months

I grossly underestimated how hard it would be to find a church after no longer being on staff at one. Any advice from someone who has done it?

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

2 months

Once I spoke to a seminary class and said, “I say this in love but a mdiv doesn’t entitle you to a pulpit and a paycheck.” I wasn’t invited back.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

10 months

I’ve gone to churches with male pastors, female pastors and once or twice, husband and wife co-pastors. However if the whole church staff is related, I’m undoubtedly never going. That’s just plain weird and a huge red flag 🚩

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

6 months

Humidity.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

1 year

I have been doing ministry in New York City for 10 years. I can tell you that very few from here care about high production worship, Instagram reel preaching, or programs out the wazoo. What people value; authenticity, community, and presence.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

3 months

I have made fun of megachurches and megachurch pastors and honestly, it's because it's an easy target. With all the headlines of the abusive, narcissist pastors that come from the big churches, it's easy to become jaded and to categorize them all as the same. But if I step back…

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

3 years

I know because I was in the room and you could hear a pin drop.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

7 months

Underrated space in churches, a room that live streams the service where you can be with your kids. Which is where I am. And they have coffee.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

2 months

I think one of the most counter cultural ways you can live as a Christian in 2024 is not cave into upper middle class culture to exhaust your kids into a million activities and allow them margin to experience the awe and wonder of God in their lives.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

9 months

There is a very real “pastor privilege” that if you’re a pastor, you have and may not even know it. It puts you on a pedestal and attracts people to you who would otherwise not be interested in you other than your job. A true story about pastor privilege🧵

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

6 months

I’ve been working for months to get a 2 mile run in 21 minutes (don’t laugh, I’m not a runner). Today I was 6 seconds short. Tomorrow is my day.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

8 months

The numbers of pastors, professors, mentors and friends who have traded in seeking first the kingdom for the ideologies of Qanon, anti-vax and pro-Trump America in the last 7 years is saddening. I can see why people my age and younger get fed up.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

8 months

I think after my family moves, we're just going to take Eugene Peterson's advice on finding a new church. Join the closest small church to you and commit to staying 6 months. Which means I may become Mennonite.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

3 months

If you ever sat down with somebody who is deconstructing, you will find out rather quickly they’re abandoning what was never Christianity in the first place.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

8 months

10 years ago, I looked for a church with amazing worship and world class preaching. Now I look for a church that centers on the Lord’s table and has a welcoming congregation.

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Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

6 months

I never got the Monday off thing for pastors. Why would you give your family your worst day? Fridays and Saturdays off make a lot more sense. If there’s an event on either day, a flex day the following week.

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

13 days

Any other former pastors sit in church and hear the sermon text and immediately your brain starts spinning on how you would preach that text or am I just a psycho?

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

8 months

Never thought of this but books like Radical and Crazy Love are lauded by Conservative Christians yet people like Shane Claiborne and Tony Campolo live out the contents of those books and have for years and are largely avoided in conservative Christian circles.

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

8 months

I don’t know who needs to hear this but no longer receiving a paycheck from a church does not mean you’re forsaking God’s call on your life.

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

8 months

If you’re preaching Sunday, pull out your sermon and read it over asking this question: Is the theme of this message to do more, try harder and be better? If so, change it to point to Jesus - His love and saving grace. Folks bear enough burdens, don’t put more on them Sunday.

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

7 months

I love seeing churches who have assigned parking for pastors and it’s the furthest spot from the church. The closest spots are reserved for new people, those with mobility needs and young families / expecting mothers. It communicates a lot.

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@erichoke

Eric Hoke (is writing a book).

9 months

I can’t believe there are churches so massive that a full time job is Assistant Pastor of 6-8 grade boys.

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