I and The Science are one. He who has seen me, has seen The Science. No man comes to The Science but through me. He who criticizes me, criticizes The Science.
Lawmakers like Sens. Rand Paul and Ted Cruz have called for Dr. Fauci to step down and be prosecuted over the course of COVID-19. Fauci scoffs at such threats, calling it "noise."
"They're really criticizing science because I represent science. That's dangerous."
1/ The most important evidence regarding pediatric transmission comes from Iceland, and their study published in NEJM.
Be suspicious of any expert ignoring this paper and discussing anecdotes instead.
Exactly. This is why I always tell tell my kids, if you see anyone in your class putting in a central line, doing a bone marrow biopsy, or having TB—don your paw patrol mask IMMEDIATELY.
No doctor would put in a central line, or do a bone marrow biopsy, or enter the room of a TB patient, without a mask.
And
#covid19
, like other common germs, is airborne.
It is frankly irresponsible to tell parents & kids otherwise.
We do not live in a Ronacracy. Covidians need to learn how to live in a pluralist society where other people don’t share their faith tradition or value commitments.
4/ Based on this, the senior author concluded that
“[E]ven if children do get infected, they are less likely to transmit the disease to others than adults. We have not found a single instance of a child infecting parents.“
1/ Schools. The most common response I hear: “I want to open them too . . . but not until we have gotten spread under control.”
Here is why this response makes no sense.
Thanks for the imaginary book cover. Let me help you with some real data.
Sweden kept schools open. 1.8M students attended. Adults living with children shown to have no excess risk relative to those not living with children.
We need science; not demagoguery.
Lot of people dunking on Justice Sotomayor for overstating pediatric covid hospitalizations by 30x. Completely unfair, IMO.
She is simply following the Imperial College method of estimation, a basic tenet in the branch of political science known as epidemiology.
Epidemiologists can speak expertly to risks: “if you do X, then Y is likely to occur.”
But when they speak instead to whether we *should* do X, how Y should be morally balanced against Z, what is “responsible”, etc—they’re no longer speaking as experts.
@ZubyMusic
The assumption that every human is so valuable we need to cancel all society to avoid even a single longcovid sequela. But not valuable enough to be reasoned with, or allowed the dignity of making value judgments for themselves.
“The overall risk of death for people aged <20 years from Covid…was 0.7 deaths per 100,000 infections. This is the same as the average risk of death to someone runnjng a marathon, going skiing for 10 days, or going on a return flight from London to NYC”
How can a just state order people to stay home indefinitely—not bc they‘ve done anything wrong, not bc they’re sick, not even bc they’ve been exposed—but simply bc it’s possible that, by leaving home to earn a living & visit each other, they may become sick?
This is insanity.
Lot of Covidians like to pretend as though they speak on behalf of all vulnerable people. They don’t. Life is short. There is more to life than the mitigation of Covid.
It takes a miraculous degree of sanctimony to believe, as Covidians do, that having the resources & relationships to be able to continue to have one’s material & immaterial needs met during lockdown is not just a manifestation of privilege but somehow the supreme human virtue.
Prof
@SunetraGupta
is full prof of epidemiology at Oxford U; rigorous & creative scholar, unimpeachable credentials, character, & publications.
That
@NIHDirector
would orchestrate a campaign to smear her as “fringe” is absurd & more evidence that this Ned Flanders is a fraud.
CA has done everything “right”: kept schools shut, bankrupted small business, even tried to relegate households of 1 to solitary confinement.
Meanwhile, FL has allowed the things. Lockdown hypothesis predicts CA would fare MUCH better.
Yet CA just overtook FL in cum cases.
“we find that students made little or no progress while learning from home”
“Learning loss was most pronounced among students from disadvantaged homes.”
Nu is so transmissible that it transcends prior variants by orders of magnitude.
But so humble that it allows itself to be constrained by the same NPIs that the prior variants evaded!
Can any Ronalogian explain this wondrous mystery?
Thoughts & prayers with Joy Behar 🙏This poor woman has already had to overcome the harrowing challenge of finding Covid-responsible cleaners during pandemic. She may now have to cancel her vacation to Western Europe. But if anyone can get through this, it’s her💪🏻
This doesn’t mean omi is more mild. Just means we need to keep doing the things that work—eg, mask, make other people bring stuff to us, shut public schools, spray sanctimony on social media, etc. Also don’t forget long cov can happen after mild case—so keep your guard up people!
This CA state senator must be stopped.
He is the author of a bill that would empower people like him to go after the licenses of doctors—not for doing anything—but merely for expressing an unpopular opinion.
This is insane.
@JAFERDIAN
This idea that the persistence of infectious disease is due solely to selfishness is a repugnant little turd afloat an ocean of scientific & philosophical ignorance, made turbulent by storms of unbearable self-righteousness, as contemptible as the most fanatical fundamentalism.
Why omit that FL has one of the oldest populations, CA one of the youngest?
Still, excess deaths since Mar 2020:
CA 18.8%,
FL 18.1%
So, despite CA imposing far more austere measures—they had same excess deaths. This completely falsifies your thesis.
Florida has a 60% higher death rate than California.
Was that at a cost to the economy? No. In 2021, California’s economy grew at 11.7%, more than 50% above Florida’s rate.
Pretending the pandemic doesn’t exist isn’t a working strategy. 15/
🦠NEW VARIANT—a new
#SARSCoV2
variant C.1.2 just identified in South Africa & several countries, with concerns it could be more infectious and evade vaccines.
#C12
also has mutation rate that is nearly **twice as fast** as the rate of the other variants.🧵
It was an honor and delight to finally get to hang out with one of my heroes,
@DrJBhattacharya
.
His brilliance is coruscating and his courage, inspiring. But it’s his kindness and humility that makes him a true brother.
You should’ve seen him interact with my kids!
“Never before...have entire healthy populations been put under effective house arrest...Yet after a year of this extreme experiment, data from around the world show that the spread of the pandemic correlates more with geography, demography & seasonality than lockdown stringency”
"Japan attracted world notice for neither imposing a lockdown nor obsessively testing asymptomatic people. .. Encouraging people with mild or no symptoms to take PCR tests would have revealed nothing but resulted in isolating false-positive cases."
The idea that to keep people’s bodies pure of respiratory viruses we can forcibly compel them to abstain from basic human things that sustain their sanity is deranged and morally reprehensible. We need to fight this at every turn.
What a disgusting way to think.
If we have a treatment for liver disease, should we be concerned it could encourage people to drink more?
Life-saving treatment is good, period. If you don’t get that, then get the hell out of public health.
Kids are resilient, kids like school, and communities need school…And then the other thing we’ve learned is just how amazingly ingenious and flexible school teachers are.”
“South Africa’s government, buoyed by data showing that infections from the Omicron variant aren’t as severe, has dropped quarantine restrictions for all but symptomatic people. That includes allowing people who have tested positive but show no symptoms”
~25k humans starved to death today, ~10k kids.
But yes, let’s all pine over this man’s heroic “journey” through a breakthrough cold.
The self-absorption and decadence of the Covidian cult is monstrous in its sheer banality.
Day 18 since covid symptoms started and still have shocking fatigue & little taste/smell. Anyone else who got virus after being fully vaccinated having same ‘journey’ ?
But also, no one in the US really locked down. Everyone points to NYC but I lived here motherfuckers. With a then 5 year old. In one of the top three most affected zip codes of NYC
Passing off the canceling of society and sacrifice of children as the “cautious” thing to do has to be one the most monstrous frauds perpetrated in all of history.
5/ This is huge.
The genetic analysis in this study is the most direct evidence of the direction of transmission. And this evidence shows that children must be less likely to transmit than adults.
No other way to view this. These data are basically irrefragable.
This morning I took my daily COVID test and tested positive for COVID-19. Before my speech yesterday, I tested negative. Today I’m experiencing mild symptoms, and I’m grateful to have been vaccinated and boosted.
1/What an execrable tweet. So many things wrong here.
Let’s start by making sure we are clear about what this new paper actually says.
This is important because it is clear that people touting it . . . have not read it.
New study of COVID in children finds children can spread virus as easily as adults. Therefore, kids are equal vectors for transmission.
(Good interview by
@ashishkjha
).
#covid19
This is dead wrong. What’s going on in China is absolutely related. It may be different in degree, but not in kind. And that’s the point. When you reason—like Covidians everywhere did—from the “greatness” of the goal to the permissibility of the means, you’ve given up the ground
@anish_koka
@DrJMarine
Oh come on. What’s going on in China has little to do with anywhere else. It’s not even remotely comparable. People died in a fire with sealed shut door. This is disrespectful to the bravery and suffering of people in China. Let’s get a grip, out of respect if nothing else.
Long awaited results of UW study of 3,000 kids during school closure.
68% depression rate.
If this doesn’t move the cowards to stop treating kids as mere instruments of their epidemiological ends, then their depravity is even darker than I feared.
Apparently, delta has not changed everything. Kids are still inefficient spreaders of Covid.
“Infection rates in school-based contacts were low, with very few school contacts testing positive.”
Now peer-reviewed in Lancet, study shows that, even in a delta world, few "close contacts" in school test pos.
AND Test-to-stay works as alternative to quarantines! No excuse to continue this crude and harmful "mitigation".
Interesting article out of Germany suggesting children act more like breaks than accelerators in the dynamics of transmission.
Here are snapshots of the translation through chrome.
It’s not a manifestation of the Dunning-Kruger effect to think you can decide for yourself how much you value, eg, saying goodbye to a dying loved one vs the risks. What is a manifestation of D-K is for a scientist to think he has epistemic authority to make that decision for me.
9/ Ireland. Researchers compared infected children with infected adults.
Despite identifying a total of 722 contacts for the infected children, the study found not a single instance of an infected child passing on the virus.
Is it just me, or is there a coordinated effort by Covidian apologists to gaslight us about the idea of immunity debt?
I am seeing this everywhere.
I thought this was an uncontroversial, almost tautologically true fact of immunology?
Did you know that based on the latest estimates 85% of the nation’s supply of rapid tests are currently in the possession of just three three docs who need them for their twitter accounts?
Cases in TX dropped today by about 20%. I don’t find crude case count a great proxy. But for those who do, I am curious: are they only a good proxy when they rise? We heard of cases SOARING in TX. Should we be proclaiming today that cases are SINKING or nah?
One thing I learned during Covid is that rights exist only when it wouldn’t be useful to the majority to violate them. Once the majority has a sufficient need to violate your rights, then it becomes sociopathic to think you have them. This is basic science.
Amazing how the goalposts went from “flatten curve to keep hospitals from becoming overwhelmed” to “lock down till vaccine” to “gird your loins till viruses stop evolving”
“Ending the lockdowns are not about Wall Street or disregard for people’s lives; it about saving lives,” said Dr. Marilyn Singleton, a California anesthesiologist and one of the signers of the letter.
Some days are harder than others. If you are struggling today for any reason, for what it’s worth, know you are not alone—am right there with you. And if you are so inclined, mention this unworthy brother in your prayers tonight.
The Covidians said to Him, “You are not even 90 years old, and yet you say you are The Science—how can this be so?”
The Fauci said to them, “Before The Science was, I am.”
The largest study of long covid revealed no statistical difference bw kids with covid and control group w/o.
So what is immoral is your demagogic insistence on nevertheless invoking this purely speculative specter to scare people into devouring their kids. Shameful.
👀 NEW: Given what we know about
#DeltaVariant
and long Covid, it is immoral to send unvaccinated kids, teachers, and staff into classrooms. Here’s a summary of the best data from around the world, and a strong case for vaccination and mask mandates, now
The Covidian stood by himself and prayed, ‘I thank You Rona I am not like other men, unwashed, impure face-barers they be. Rather, I am pure of taint, thrice-masked and eating of the paxlovid weekly.
Covidian "scientists" always arguing about what's the right "messaging."
How about instead of worrying about what to tell people to get them to act consistent with your values--you just tell the truth & leave them to act consistent with their values?
“A number of complicated reasons,” he said, when asked why he had stopped practicing.
“First of all, becoming a messiah figure for a competing religion made it kind of AWKWARD.
Plus, as the literal incarnation of The Science, I just thought it would be a bad look.”
The numbers don’t lie. But you do.
You are comparing the burden of flu from a period when it is know that flu was not circulating vs a period when Covid was circulating. This invites a false inference about relative intrinsic risk.
This is demagoguery, not science.
8/ The same is true of the news reports of isolated instances of school outbreaks.
Though these accounts usually proclaim hysterically that children are super-spreaders, their conclusions seem never to be based on actual tracing (much less deeper genetic analyses). Never.
Covidians weaponizing the disabled to justify policies that sacrifice the disabled is shameful.
“pandemic over-regulation has made the challenges of my son's life infinitely harder—as it has the lives of countless other individuals with disabilities”
Brethren, I’m retiring from the Covidian dialogues.
It seems fitting to have my last word be the same as my first. So I leave you with my Mar ‘20 FB post; I got some things wrong but a lot of this seems mainstream now—remarkable given how many friends I lost over this post.
We need to stop cloaking the moral preferences of public health figures in the guise of science. Following the moral judgments of public health figures is not following the science.
Largest peer-reviewed study,
57,335 child care centers:
“No evidence of child care being a significant contributor to COVID19 transmission to adults—finding consistent with previous studies showing lack of assoc btwn school closures & transmission rates”
As they did to granny, Covidians are trying to weaponize the immunocompromised to argue for policies that in fact serve their own immunocompetent neuroses.
The most patronizing part is the assumption that all IC have the same take on how to balance competing values & risks.
Have we ever in human history conditioned our willingness to do things that give our lives meaning on assurances that we’d be 100% protected while doing them? What an empty & insane way to go about the business of doing life. 0 risk doesn’t exist on this side of the grave.
I'm
#COVID19
Positive.
Was bound to happen at some point
I feel terrible today: Fever, aches, chills (Immune mediated symptoms). Cough (maybe immune, maybe virus)
So, here we go.
I'll update this thread daily. See photo for rapid test results + infection/test result description
Punishing purveyors of misinformation is not enough. If we wait till people start spreading misinfo—it’s already too late. Damage is done. We should instead nip the problem in the bud by prohibiting false beliefs. It’s better for people to have true beliefs, anyway.
This is the hardest school year we’ve ever faced. The challenges for educators are enormous and what you hear from teachers is that it’s been too much. And they’re trying the best that they can.
@kurteichenwald
1.8M kids kept going to school during the pandemic in Sweden’s including peak spread. Zero deaths among those students. Also no evidence of excess risk to teachers or parents relative to baseline either. 20+ other nations opened schools successfully. We need data over anecdote.
@brithume
Agree. Sweden never closed day-care/primary/middle schools, with zero COVID19 deaths among 1.8 million children ages 1-15. Teachers did not have any excess risk compared to average of other professions.
The idea of protecting the entire population from spread of COVID, when you believe it’s impossible to protect a subset of the population, is an incoherent delusion. It’s a foolish idea, not scientifically supported, & would result in millions of preventable deaths globally.
The idea of protecting the vulnerable without controlling the spread of Covid is a delusion. It's a foolish idea, not scientifically supported, and would result in millions of preventable deaths globally.
Yes, it’s been difficult.
There is learning loss.
There are social-emotional challenges.
In some cases, there is sickness, economic hardship, or trauma.
But students are extremely resilient.
It’s immoral to mask kids all day for a virus that poses little risk to them.
If adults are afraid of the faces of kids, they can vacc.
The speculative prospect of a hypothetical IC in some contrived chain doesn’t override the right & need of kids to show & see their faces.
ZeroCovid is a good start but not enough. Need to aim for ZeroGerms. Some scientists say there are countless bacteria in all our stomachs. Can you believe that? Can thank the germ minimizers for that🙄
Enough is enough. All germs need to go so we can live normal lives again.
We have over 100 international airports in US; NZ has three. 16k freight trucks cross Laredo TX alone per day; 30k cross the Canadian border a day. NZ has no border.
You really think this is all about how much ass we are putting into our mitigation?
Behold... a
#ZeroCovid
utopia without any
#COVID19
, no variants, no vaccine or syringe shortages, no mask wars, kids in schools, & people just having fun!
It’s all possible if we aim for full suppression, and not just half-ass mitigation. We can do this.
Me trying to figure out how we went from “stay home for 15 days to flatten the curve so hospitals aren’t overwhelmed” to “keep society and faces cancelled even after vaccines cuz breakthrough colds.”
Seeing a lot of Covidians repeating “eugenics, eugenics, eugenics” over and over in a kind of ecstatic echolalia, as they simultaneously demand measures that sacrifice the vulnerable to appease the anxieties of the aristocracy.
Anyone know what’s going on?
9/ Yet these stories are getting more press than Iceland.
This is especially weird here, as Iceland is not an outlier. It’s results are also corroborated all over the world.
In fact, at this point so many datasets on point, it’s overwhelming.
Here are two examples.
11/ “Data from the Netherlands confirms . . . children play a minor role in the spread of the novel coronavirus. The virus is mainly spread between adults and from adult family members to children. The spread of COVID-19 among children or from children to adults is less common.”