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Been watching some "predictions and expectations" for FF7 R3, and a lot of them talk about Cloud accepting Aerith's death, having closure, moving forward, etc... I'm speechless at how can people interpret the story and Cloud's resolution like this. Is this REALLY what western 1/1
So, Cody says that Cloud has been constantly showing his true self in Rebirth, just like we've been saying all along.
But, no, Cloud is Zack. Aerith doesn't know the real Cloud. Amrite?
Oh, no! Poor baby, is completely crazy by now.
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Wait a second...
"You're basically saying that not only he created this imaginary Aerith, but also made her flirt with him for his own enjoyment."
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Does this mean he *gasps* ENJOYS flirting with Aerith? THE HORROR!
It’s funny how the other side is so insistent that Cloud is being delusional and that she’s not truly there.
Bro you're basically saying that not only he created this imaginary Aerith but also made her flirt with him for his own enjoyment.
Not the CTs ruining our experience of the ending at
@RexSterlingLive
stream... can't they shut the fuck up just once and let others enjoy the game? FFS 🤦♀️🤦♀️
That's why I always take producers' interviews with a grain of salt. There are too many contradictions with what they say now vs. what they said last week...
audiences got from the ending? The guy has been desperate to find Aerith in the Promised Land since 97 (not to mention in every other piece of FF-related media to date), so how exactly are people reaching this conclusion? Serious question... how?
Can someone, please, enlighten me regarding this date CTs claim that Z and A went on and she's allegedly recreating with C? I have no recollection of such event... what kind of collective high are CTs on?
@Epstein_Dem
It's very easy... If CA are just friends, they just have to replace Aerith with Cid (or anyone else) in her scenes... Do you see Cloud sneaking shots of Cid, or cradling him if he's dead, or intertwining his fingers with Cid's? If the answer's YES, then, OK, CA is platonic
Interesting, what a nakama/companion?
if you don't look her in the eyes and talk.
You obviously enjoyed the date,but why were you so cold afterward?
Body language: Unwillingness to communicate honestly with the person in front of you; Self-defense.
#Clerith
@aerithstrifes
They're always what we have. But it's funny, right? That they insist this is friends/siblings behavior while trying to steal it? Same thing with the high-five 🙄
Ladies and gentlemen, he NEVER said no to riding double and enjoying the scenery together (which is clearly a date). Instead, he gave his insights, put down his foot for what he wanted and make the idea good for both of them 🥰
Clerith Costa del Sol date - Cloud on riding double:
A: Next time we need a chocobo, I say we ride double.
C: And slow down the bird?
A: Which would make it that much easier to take in all the scenery.
C: I'm still steering.
A: Oh fine, if you've got to be the man up front.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Cloud's "leaning in" arrow just gets close to his lips because the camera is zooming in?
His head doesn't move against the picture behind them, his lips are open and he's blinking like crazy cuz he's just confused af. That's what I see, at least...
Let's watch this scene closely, paying attention to the placement of the arrows.
Cloud leans in FIRST. He gaps his lips FIRST. Tifa responds by leaning in & fluttering her eyes.
This is called chemistry. This is called desire. This is called MUTUALITY.
Then they're interrupted😩
Very funny some qrts saying that Nomura is a "sneaky (CT) mastermind", they guy who literally inserts Cloud and Aerith *as a couple* in as much Final Fantasy media as f-ing possible, including his beloved Kingdom Hearts 🤣🤣🤣
FFVII Rebirth creative director Nomura says he happened to hear Loren Allred's singing voice during a movie. He was moved by what he heard and listened to it over and over. With Uematsu and Nojima handling the composition and lyrics, he decided to approach Allred for the job.
C'mon, people, Theme Songs are important to the narrative too! If they weren't, we wouldn't have them, and studios wouldn't spend a *fortune* creating them. Just look at movies like Titanic and The Bodyguard...
I find it really funny that Tifa's *Memorable Quote* is one showing jealousy of Aerith 😂😂😂😂 To me, that says a lot about what the producers think of her 🥲
@w_mikki55637
This is truly soul-cleansing after reading a thread full of BS about how "Rebirth killed Clerith dead" and "Tifa's endgame" and "Aerith's recreating her date with Zack, so it doesn't count" MYGOD
@aerisephs
Cloud's smile is sooo... I don't even know how to describe it. Beautiful? Free? Heartwarming? Breaks me to know he's just hallucinating (for lack of a better word) 😭😭😭
@RadiantAntiHero
Rebirth confirms SHIT for any ship, actually. It just left everyone more confused and made the fighting even worse.
For me, it does seem to lean heavily toward CA, ofc, but yeah... nothing confirmed anywhere.
I've been saying since *that* trailer that Cloud will wake up in Terrier/Zack's world when he falls into the LS. Maybe this will overwrite the LS sequence with T. The he can learn the truth straight from Zack, better understand the worlds and even see Aerith before going back.
The amount of clowns I see saying that T IS his light... I swear I can with this level of dumb. C literally flew away and left her and her light on read...
In Kingdom Hearts Cloud is on a quest to find HIS light.
Tifa offers HERS which completely misses the point of why he's doing this.
Aerith on the other hand understands and fully supports his choice.
@cetrafairy
Trauma and bullying, or even just adolescence, can and do make people like that. I was exactly that. I was a sociable and talkative child (according to my mother), but things happened and I became more and more closed off as a teenager, and eventually depressed. A dealt with ⬇️
@dailyclerith
I find it hard to believe people think that's a CT movie. AC is TOTALLY Clerith. It shows in the credits C driving through flower fields and tons of flower field photos on his desk. He's still searching for her, even after everything! Gotta love a man as loyal and dedicated as C
K-poppers are based as f*ck. I always had hope in them, glad I didn't give up.
Now, onto discover more about NewJeans (I never listened to them, I'm a hardcore 2nd gen) 🤩🤩🤩🤩
Additionaly, wtf is wrong with repeating things on a date. If I used to go to the cinema and dinner afterward with my ex, I can't do this again with current partner, else I'd be "recreating past dates cuz I'm still in love with my ex"?
I really don't get why people who are so passionately AGAINST romanticising grief (like the core theme of tragedies) are into Final Fantasy? That's basically the whole deal of the franchise...
OP is so right that no one here cares about what those unhinged weirdos are saying...
@HerzloserEngel
I like Reddit, but frankly the FF7 subreddits are so toxic and full of hate that I decided to Twitter of all places to have discussion about Rebirth 😂😂😭
@Hongjooyoo
Right???? I mean, if she's supposed to stay dead, then just play OG 🤷♀️
At this point in the story, it makes no sense for Aerith to stay dead, where's the payoff?
@_flowertalk5
We need to add the "Sector 5 date is Aerith recreating her date with Zack", "Aerith said she loves Zack", "interlacing fingers is just platonic friendship" and "Cloud's so happy after he kissed T!" 🤣🤣🤣
@Supernerd471
OMG, what are these people smoking? This is the f-ing FINAL SCENE of the movie, AFTER "Cloud Smiles" at the church. Even after he began healing from A's comforting words, he's STILL searching for her... ffs 🤦♀️
HOLYMOTHEROFGOD, who was the absolute MONSTER that drew this??? Now I'm crying all over my work computer 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
At least they've still got each other...
#FF7
@Supernerd471
No, that was a mistranslation, guys! In JP, he says she's beautiful, or cute, depending on your preference (kinda like if you prefer a cute girl or a beautiful girl), implying she's actually both.
Prerequisites for shipping CxT:
Play FF7 (optional)
No media literacy (required)
Misogyny (required)
Liking Tifa (optional)
Hating Cloud (optional)
Alycia slayed with this list 😂😂😂
pré-requisitos para ser cloti:
jogar ff7 (opcional)
ausência de interpretação (obrigatório)
machismo (obrigatório)
gostar da tifa (opcional)
odiar o cloud (opcional)
@RadiantAntiHero
I find this pattern very interesting. It seems to mean that CT (mostly T, actually) is disturbed all the time because of A and the relationship never takes root. While CA is fine and growing with or without T around.
@tiredponygirl
Why do they feel the need to go on a stream that they KNOW is not about their OTP and harrass the streamer because of it? Normal people would just not watch it and go make something more useful of their time... This is borderline sociopathic behaviour ffs
@GothGainsborouh
"the only scene" like... Tell us you didn't play the game without saying you didn't play the game. Or at least watched a full playthrough... 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
@AerithCloud3
Ofc she is. Even with Aerith dead for years, she doesn't stand a chance with Cloud. I truly wish for Tifa to move on and find a good man that deserves her, even (especially) if Cloud never moves on himself.
@aerithsclouds
But he IS throwing her 😂😂😂 I can't remember what exact fight this is from, but the team has a tendency to throw Tifa on their enemies to breach their defenses and give her the reach (she's a melee, close-range fighter) she needs to do her damage 😅
@lunali_lu
@MargotXCloud
There's also the "he's looking at her lips" yeah, but he's also frowning and raising his eyebrows, plus blinking, VERY confused. He only gets what's going on after Yuffie whispers "kiss kiss". I mean, it's that simple. How can they misunderstand the MC so badly?
@AerisGainsboro3
Always looked like a juvenile lion for me... i mean, the mane and the tail kind of makes it obvious. I really dunno why people think he's a dog
@tiredponygirl
How can some people say that he doesn't love her after seeing this? He never sobbed as hard for anything or anyone else in his life... I don't get it... are their standards for love that different? SMH
@DrajanDropbox
@RexSterlingLive
In their imaginations only, cuz not even after Aerith died Cloud got together with their waifu 🤣🤣 and it's hilarious that they can't see that, no matter how many times the producers friendzone T
@KenMastersUSA
How can they not get that Claudia is simply describing "a" girl who she thinks will balance Cloud out.
Aerith just happens to fit her description. That's it, no need to overcomplicate.
@zlinnnh0511
No, it's definitely not normal. They're just coping veeeery hard, trying to pretend like social norms don't exist. Or they're all legit incels who don't have a clue how dates and relationships work IRL
@RadiantAntiHero
@AerithCloud3
Dunno if you watched her playing Sephiroth final boss. She lost like 10 times in a roll and had to watch Seph saying "I underestimated you" 10 times to Aerith. Instant karma!
@mlwjrpg
We're so spoiled in this fandom by having many talented people like you breaking down content with your expertise to point out such details that make a world of difference to the scene's interpretation ♥️♥️♥️
Did you catch anything similar in the other HA x LA moments?
@FloorMageSylla
I don't know how people can forget that. He vehemently opposes Jessie's skinship all the f-ing time. At the "Are you THAT desperate?" line he literally *yanks* her hands off him very rudely.
I think we need to make a repo for CA arguments to just ctrl+c ctrl+v the basic stuff, cuz I legit got tired of answering every day the "but C calls A weird" and "nakama" and shit
@Supernerd471
A giant, HOT doofus with a heart of gold and a personality to match hers... one that wouldn't mind being bossed around by her
#zack
#himbo
Cloud be there doing God's work and trying to educate the fandom about himself. Pity most of the "fans" are too far gone to listen to the protagonist himself...
@tofffieeee
I know Marlene loves Tifa, but Aerith became so special to her as well. Remember she started to use a friggin ribbon in her hair because she idolizes Aerith this much
@mlwjrpg
I will appreciate it if you can show us that scene where Cloud regain himself and snaps out of Sephiroth's control in the temple when he remembers the main heroine bartender making drinks for him
Why do CTZAs only focus on a couple of isolated lines of dialogue, instead of the whole conversation/scene/concept?
Was discussing with one of them during my lunch and, mygod, it was worse than talking to a wall 🤦♀️
@grumpy_bucky
@gurekura
Nah, this is just badly rendered shadows of her bone structure below the skin. There are markings for the sternum and both her clavicles.
@AlMarc86
@RadiantAntiHero
@Focus1178
But you're denying they have romantic feelings for each other. What is the point of an LTD if there's no romance in one of the sides?
@CloudxAerith
And he doesn't move to get her out of the Weapon later as well. Barret's gotta go and get him 🤦♀️
Looks almost like 0 fucks given. Like he was more concerned about his mental health status (smart boy) then with T's wellbeing 🤔🤔
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#FF7EC
She's become so controlling after OG. C is an independent, single man who owes her no explanation about his whereabouts. She even makes him feel guilty about not telling her about the church... FFS
Not to mention demanding and overbearing in the other examples in the thread
After discovering Denzel is a representation of
#clerith
, Tifa invites herself to the Church, just like she invites herself to the Promised Land
CxT never work out because Cloud is still in love with Aerith — it is literally written in Case of Tifa by Nojima
#ffvii
#ff7
#ff7r
@chocobobun
They cling to single words like their lives depend on it, and fuck how they apply in the whole context of the scene, and how the scene impacts the rest of the story.
@IrekawariF
In the beginning, looks like he didn't even wanna be there. Huffing, sighing, not making eye contact, not starting of progressing the conversation...
@_MissYume
@MargotXCloud
I just remembered some clownti said yesterday "of course Cloud would make a cool pose to take a photo with the mighty condor". He's not cool, he looks like he rather be dragged through hell than take that photo 🤣🤣🤣🤣