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Please read link below before following. Fan of German Lagers & college access. Called an unpleasant character by some. This is a personal account.

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Joined February 2012
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For followers old and new and considering: My Twitter engagement rules and philosophy:
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Thread: A slow weekend turned interesting when a student at Columbia, in response to a tweet suggesting the SAT and ACT were "good, actually" posted this chart.
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Thread: We need to get a few things straight, people. Those advocating for the return of the SAT in admissions because "other things seem to favor wealthy students" seem to be missing something. Something kind of big.
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Dear Students: If you participate in protests against gun violence and incur school discipline for walking out, you can rest assured you can report it to DePaul and we won't hold it against you. #ParklandStudentsSpeak
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But is that what education should do? Just sort people into classes based on their level of opportunity and then perpetuate that level of opportunity? I don't think so. But that's just me.
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The responses are typical, of course, and offer nothing new by way of explanation. My favorite is always that the data make sense because "wealthy people are smarter." Of course.
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So I knew, but I sort of got lost there. Here's the deal: If you use tests where one group always comes out on top based on their opportunity, you're going to select people who are likely to come out on top based on their birth. That probably suits some people just fine.
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So the tests measure something. But scores can be raised by test prep, and intensive tutoring, and by having money. Here's how it looks on the ACT, in 2018 (extracted this from the EIS reports):
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Thread: College Board, which has a history of blowing it, has blown it. You know about the Parkland email. You know they told kids to sit in a McDonald's parking lot during COVID to take AP. You know about millions in bonuses during COVID, when revenue dropped $400M.
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What changed after WWII was the GI Bill that made it possible for many people who were not destined to go to college to get that opportunity. And they didn't all go to the Ivy League, of course. College made the difference. And I think it could again.
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It's a chart I've used several times before, and I explain the way I got the data (I even told people at ACT how I got the data from the tool they provide colleges), and I explain how to read it on a long post here.
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You no longer need standardized tests to apply to any public university on the west coast. Have a good day.
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OK, here it is: Everything (save perhaps one thing) in the admissions process favors wealthy students. And people who actually do admissions for a living already know this. We don't need research to prove it to us.
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In fact, at one of my first conferences as a young admissions officer, I listened to a DOA at one of the largest public universities in America say they only admitted applicants with predicted GPAs of 2.8 and above. I asked him what the mean freshman GPA was. He said 2.9.
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Perhaps my favorite blog post of all time is this one, where I show the ramp up in educational attainment since 1940, and suggest that America's post WWII economic expansion was directly tied to it
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But for as long as I've been doing this, and for as long as I've looked at the ACT and SAT, something about my point has seemed odd to me. It's like the IKEA desk you assemble and find you have some pieces left over at the end. It was always in the back of my mind.
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So, I picked up a lot of followers over the weekend based on that student's tweet and friends alerting me to it. Glad to have you on board. The link in my pinned tweet will tell you what you're in for. Come for the higher ed, stay for the IPA bashing.
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And then during discussions at the UC Board of Regents meeting, comments by @rothstein_jesse and Lark Park made everything come together: I'd been swayed by the arguments of College Board and ACT into thinking that admissions was just a prediction function. I knew better.
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@GlynisOMeara I would be grateful if you cite my work when you use it.
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Thread: Don't be shocked when I tell you this. It takes a lot of people some time to figure it out, and sometimes a little longer to sink in: College Board is a business.
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Thread: Hey, everyone: This is pretty big. The Daily Caller (ugh) has memos from the Florida DOE suggesting they were influencing @CollegeBoard on the AP African-American Studies curriculum as early as January 2022, and at the very minimum, July 2022.
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Of course, the narrative suggesting "the GPA at THAT school is not as good as the GPA at MY school" is a theme started and dominated by...by whom, do you think? People with the money and the power, of course.
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Are low-income kids dumb? Or is it possible they have been forced to take a test they're not prepped for by wealthy, obsessive parents (see Varsity Blues)? Or perhaps they've never been exposed to the content. Is that "fair" to them?
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If you want to say removing these tests will hurt low-income, first-gen, students of color, tell me this: When have they ever helped low-income, first-gen, students of color?
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Extra-curriculars? Well, what looks better in ED (which already favors the wealthy because if you don't have to worry about money, well...): Captain of the lacrosse team? or 20 hours a week at Subway?
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Guess which of those groups have more resources, even before you factor in the ability to a) hire tutors or editors, b) have your essay reviewed by several people who have college degrees, and c) have them reviewed by people WHO GO TO WORKSHOPS RUN BY PEOPLE WHO READ THE ESSAYS?
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We also need to remember that high school GPA is now and always has been the best predictor of college GPA. Even the College Board and ACT have never disputed this. And they don't dispute the VERY (and I mean VERY) small incremental gain their tests add to the prediction EQ
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To wit: Yes, essays. Duh. In one suburban high school outside of Chicago I know, students work on college essays as a literary form in Freshman English. Others, not knowing much about the process, might sit down and type their essay as they fill out Common App.
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Be suspicious of anyone who has risen through the ranks of academia at least in part by having high test scores. It's hard for some people to believe that the touchdown they scored in the homecoming game isn't really important. Same for their SAT or GRE scores.
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So the argument seems to be, "Let's use tests because they are standardized." That word standardized does not really mean what most people who don't do this for a living think it means. It's doesn't mean "common."
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What about those LORs (that's what we call letters of recommendation in the business?) I wrote about this several years ago.
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It's not a coincidence that people who like these scores tend to be white or Asian or wealthy. Because that's who scores well on the tests. But suggesting they will somehow help low-income, first-gen, students of color? It's laughable. It's moronic.
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It takes a lot to get to me. This got to me. Our provost send the campus-wide announcement about Oregon State going test optional. This was the reply I'll never forget. (Shared with permission). #EMTalk #TestOptionalCollegeDay
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Of course, low-income kids can just tell grandpa to build a new wing on the science center, right? (Jared Kushner, are you listening?) Or tell their mother's colleague in the corner office to put in a good word....
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This "Diamond in the Rough" theory occasionally helps a small number of students. But you can't cite the benefits of the tests without accounting for the costs: The thousands of kids each year screwed over by the exams.
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So, to everyone who somehow believed that College Board made its own, independent decisions about the framework/curriculum and wrapped it all up in December, 2022, before DeSantis went public: Read this.
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Demonstrated interest? Your (hired) coach will tell you about that, assuming you can afford to hire a coach. And your parents can pay for that plane ticket to visit if...guess what...see? you're learning!
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I'm out of room. Sorry. Don't believe the BS. Oh, and #EMTalk
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How did they blow it? Well, caving to pressure from a governor in Florida. The optics are bad enough: That education has been politicized by someone who wants to fan the flames of racism, fear, and hatred for political gain.
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It's even worse when you suspect that caving was done to protect the cozy relationship College Board has with Florida, a state very fond of the SAT (even requiring it in public institutions during COVID), and it's third largest customer.
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But that's an aside. Standardized means they're designed to sort students into group: If you give it to a thousand students, you'll always have 100 who score in the top 10%. It's not like a high school grade.
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You know about taking out ads disguised as journalism. You know about their Communications staff working on a book of "research" about the SAT. You know about the disastrous launch of the redesigned SAT. And now you know about AP African-American Studies.
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For people who are one month older than I am: The University of Florida had never enrolled a Black student when you were born. And in a state where about 20% of the population 17-24 is African-American, just under 5% of UF undergraduates are. So, yeah, close the DEI office.
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So, that top 10% means you're smart, right? First, tell me what smart means. Once you do that, I'll admit that it's hard to guess your way into the top 10%. That's really the only reason the highly rejective colleges like them: Low false positives.
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The tropes people use to justify a test that helps them are predictable. There are at least nine. I wrote about them:
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Thread: I read it again this morning: "Everything like letters of recommendation and essays and GPA can be easily manipulated by the wealthy, so we need The SAT because it's standardized and fair."
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Again, I'll wait. This is not the SAT; I'm not trying to trick you by giving you a wrong answer that looks right.
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In fact, in any given admissions cycle, students might be presenting test from as many as 12 different administrations, all different (unless College Board recycles them, as they've done in the past, which favors...well, you complete the sentence.)
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To summarize: 1) Florida DOE and/or DeSantis (do we think they're not the same thing?) have been driving this for months. 2) College Board caved 3) College Board lied about caving
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OK, everyone. Thanks (I think) for the discussion, but I'm muting this one, so I won't see any more replies. I'm gratified that this was so well received, and, as always, puzzled by the misinformation that props up some other "opinions." Good night!
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Oh, and #EMTalk
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HOW DO THEY EXPECT ME TO MAKE A DECISION BY MAY 1 WHEN THEY WON'T SEND OUT FINANCIAL AID AWARDS UNTIL MAY 15TH AT THE EARLIEST?
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Along the left are composite scores: Read across any composite score to see how students at that score represent (self-reported) income levels. For instance, at a 34 composite, 41% of students had family income over $150K.
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Can you guess what it is? I'll wait. Go on, don't be afraid. I bet you know the answer but you're too shy to say it.
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To reiterate: If someone tells you that the lack of testing in admissions will harm low-income students of color just ask them: What has 100 years of testing in admissions done for low-income students of color?
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If you didn't think it was time for the College Board Trustees to fire David Coleman before, you should reconsider. He's lied to the membership, and he's lied to America. Here are the Trustees. Please contact them:
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College Board is appeasing people who have the lowest affinity for College Board, in all probability. And whatever they gain from this with them is likely a) short-lived, and b) accompanied by ridicule. And they're offending people whose kids are likely to use CB products.
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They could have simply not offered the course in Florida. They wanted to make one their biggest customers (who might be their BFFs) happy. They made Ron DeSantis the chief curriculum officer at College Board instead. @JBPritzker and @GavinNewsom might have some thoughts...
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Been waiting for a time when the sunset and the high tides line up at Thor's Well on the Oregon coast, south of Yachats. Tonight was the night.
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I'm not an emotional person. I'm overwhelmed right now. Well done, California.
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For my #HigherEd peeps over the holidays
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Great to see students on campus, not to mention fall color. Today @OregonState
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Congratulations to @RhodesCollege for turning out more Rhodes Scholars than all other American universities combined.
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Every time someone says, "I was poor and first-gen and the SAT helped me get noticed," someone in PR at the College Board gets their wings. We don't set policy by anecdote or by feel-good PR campaigns.
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I'm not sure I'll be going to our conference in Texas this year, even though I've already registered, and will have to write a check back to the university for the registration fee. Not sure I'll ever go to a conference in any of those states again.
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I don't know why I still react this way, but it's stunning how many people who've never worked a single day in the profession turn into experts on college admissions when a big news story breaks. #EMChat
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Thread: I bet you're wondering what's going on in the mind of your friendly local EM or admissions/FA professional. So follow along.
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It is, perhaps, the worst double-whammy one could conceive. In the process, they've ticked off lots of people in other states who might resent a modern Napoleon-from-Florida-with-a-bigger-ego dictating their kids' educations.
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Hired a candidate, and sent individual emails to the finalists who didn't get it. One asked, "Who did you hire?" The second asked, "What could I have done better?" Be the second candidate.
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"The SAT got me into college so I support it even though it screwed over hundreds of kids for every one like me" is not quite the flex you think it is.
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#HigherEd finally gets its meme
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Rick Singer sentenced to 3.5 years, which is a 4.2 weighted. #EMTalk
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Serious question: Why are colleges that are forcing students out of the dorms also forcing them to move their things out? I mean, do they plan to rent that room before the student has a chance to return? Couldn't they leave things there until later?
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This is "Her favorite story." It's a story of psychosis that should make most people want to puke.
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Thread: I know a lot of parents follow me, so some advice about the college essay. Free, of course, so consider that. You may know my wife is a writing tutor and because she worked in college admissions, she gets a LOT of requests for essay help this time of the year.
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One of the best things you can do for yourself, your team, your marketing staff, and your faculty, is to show them where your non-enrolling admitted students attended. I guarantee it will put things in focus for everyone. (the first is the whole class, the second, a subset).
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I just got asked to do a session at NACAC in Seattle. The person who sent it was a white guy. And the other five people he asked were all white guys. And he wanted to talk about what was wrong with college admissions. Not making this up. #EMTalk (I said no, BTW).
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They could have even won me over (for a day or two, but let's start small, here) by telling Ron DeSantis to %&*$ off, in public, and in no uncertain terms. They didn't. And they won't.
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It's my last day @DePaul If you ever think about changing jobs, a few tips: First, make sure you like the mission of the institution. Second, make sure your boss can both teach and inspire you. Third, make sure your institution's risk tolerance equals or exceeds your own.
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He'll have to act tough against the "Woke Left," and he'll have to speak in code to racists. Getting the education establishment to bend to his will, on a class with "African-American" in the name accomplishes both.
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We are at the point near the end of the admissions cycle where some people who are used to buying anything they want are suddenly faced with the reality that there are some things they can't buy at any price.
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Lot of people in my timeline talking about standardized testing this week. Trends: People opposed: Teachers, counselors, admissions officers People in favor: Ph.Ds who went to universities that signal they have high test scores. Go figure. #EMTalk
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I'm a man, and dudes who never worked in admissions a day in their life are mansplaining college admissions to me. I honestly don't know how women put up with it.
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Thread: College: We need the SAT to find low-income, first-generation, and students of color. Journalist: <scribbles down quote> <thinks> It says here your numbers of Pell and students of color rose when you went test-optional
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@mattyglesias Standardized tests are actually much better at sorting students by income. If you want to talk about this, just DM me; I've only been at it for 40 years. So it's either that rich people are inherently smarter, or, you know, the corollary to that.
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I normally wouldn't trust Daily Caller, but this serves their right wing agenda well; it's believable, and, I suspect, even they wouldn't publish a fabricated memo from the Florida DOE. In order to win the nomination in 2024, DeSantis is going to have to do two things Trump did:
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Perhaps the @CollegeBoard could provide to its members a) why it thinks the 45-minute, home-delivered AP test is a valid indicator of specific learning, and b) if, so, why they haven't gone to the model previously. Genuinely eager to see so we can talk to our faculty.
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I don't think I've ever asked people to RT something, but I think we've reached the tipping point. Consider, if you will, taking a stand by RTing the first tweet in this thread. Educators everywhere should be aware of it. Take a stand.
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I created a database of every vendor at #NACAC19 and emailed them, telling them I'd like 15 minutes of their time to learn about their sales challenges, and whether I'd be able to "partner" with them.
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And, of course, now that CB has caved, will other red states be far behind? No, they will not be. Sarah Huckabee Sanders and Greg Abbott now know they are the College Board's daddy.
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I just suggested that colleges should include a parent essay, consisting of one question: List three mistakes you allowed your child to make even though you knew it was a mistake going into it.
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If you work at a selective university, 1) Read this thread. Many times if necessary 2) Share it with your faculty 3) Point to it (framed on your wall) anytime some wonders why you struggle with diversity.
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So I'm helping a kid I know with some college applications and I have some thoughts. My friend has a GPA of over 4.0 and a star in track and cross-country. She grew up Black in a white rural town in CA--oh and she's homeless. She's living with a friend's family.
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Jon Boeckenstedt de la Azure Cheque
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Thread: Be watching for articles and opinion pieces with the new narrative that "The SAT helps poor students." They're starting to pop up like flowers in the spring. Why? Here's my take on it:
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Jon Boeckenstedt de la Azure Cheque
2 years
Thread: The 26-year-old at my daily 7/11 stop is a good guy. He works the overnight, and I usually come in about 6:30--6:40 on my way to the office. One day I ask him how he's doing, and he says, "Great!"
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Jon Boeckenstedt de la Azure Cheque
3 years
Anyone who wants to talk about learning loss should first be required to re-take all their finals from college in their non-major classes.
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Jon Boeckenstedt de la Azure Cheque
1 year
Look at Florida presidential election results. Here is 2016. Votes are shown by the percentage of county residents with a bachelor's or higher. Florida is red, but the more highly educated counties are more blue.
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Jon Boeckenstedt de la Azure Cheque
2 years
As we get ready to wring our hands over admit rates at the highly rejectives, just your occasional reminder that 7% of all college students in the United States are attending a Community College in California. #EMTalk
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Jon Boeckenstedt de la Azure Cheque
1 year
So, there you have it. College Board blew it. Again. History repeats itself.
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Jon Boeckenstedt de la Azure Cheque
2 years
I didn't expect people to bring me gifts to The College Counselor's Fair at #NACAC22
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