Hoyostans is a fan website for miHoYo's games. We try to organise and support all sorts of fan projects, and share our love for these games and their stories.
miHoYo protagonists!
Black means finished, blue means ongoing.
Excluding major manga arcs, anime and deuteragonists.
Note: This assumes there's no 3rd arc in HI3 Part 1.5
#Honkailmpact3rd
#HonkaiStarRail
#GenshinImpact
Whenever I see people discuss which is miHoYo's 'favourite child', I shake my head.
Game development and live service business are a lot more complicated than people give it credit for.
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A huge chunk of the fanbase believes these character versions are like the Type 1 Expy in the infographic.
So please, and this is especially relevant for content creators and loremasters, move on from the term 'expy'. It has overstayed its welcome, and it's holding us back.
Features like these are much easier to implement in an instance based game. It also helps if it was planned in advance. Unlike HSR, Genshin has a complex physics system that is very inviting for weird bugs, and events have a lot of interaction with environmental variables.
Here it is, our big post about the Universe! We are open to feedback and other evidence we missed so we can update the page accordingly. Of course, it's never going to cover everything, so we stuck to the big points.
#honkaiuniverse
#HonkaiStarRail
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How gay or queer are
#HonkaiImpact3rd
and
#HoukaiGakuen2
really? It's often said, but is it true?
Faced with this challenge, Haeldral had the fun idea to collect anything we could find into a google doc.
We found a lot more than we expected.
None of them is *the cash cow*. We see funds reinvested proportionate to the earnings.
They're all passion projects one way or another, and it shows. You can't make games like these and maintain them if you don't care about them. It's physically impossible to keep that up.
There is a common narrative that a CN player tried to assassinate Da Wei over the Bunny Girl Incident.
This is *almost certainly* a hoax. We only found a single source article that admits to relying on rumours, and articles based on that article.
#hoyoverse
It's not a matter of a miHoYo exec saying 'let's give this game an animation/feature and not the other game', rather it's the team related to that game that makes such decisions.
A🧵to append this tweet for the sake of clarity:
There is a common idea that HSR and HI3 are not in the same universe. Jowever, Honkai: Star Rail and Honkai Impact 3rd do take place in the same Universe, and we will share some evidence for this.
#HonkaiUniverse
One of the terrors of Honkai Universe lore: Multiverse vs Universe.
Also confusing is that the Honkaiverse is not a Universe but a World, distinct from Honkai Universe...
We'll expand upon the info on this page over time.
More posts about this eventually.
Each of miHoYo's games has been of great import to their growth and each one is loved.
Heck, GGZ only has about a team of about 100, has messy code and old features, has next to no animations.... And Da Wei said in 2021 that he would be sad if he had to stop working with it.
QoL features aren't included on a preferential basis, they're just easier to add when a game is malleable.
Since new content has to happen every 6 weeks, a lot of QoL ends up stuck at the bottom of the priority list.
@urlocalhamster
The Hoyodex wiki uses Iterations for all versions, and Variants for subgroups (like God Kiana).
Counterparts, alts, versions... All of those do work with enough context, and people quickly understand them, without the baggage of a word like expy.
Every time we explain to people that HI3 and HSR are not in separate universes but rather in a shared universe, someone says we're wrong because there are alternate versions of HI3 characters.
Meanwhile, Silver Wolf and Bronya Rand are right there.
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Star Rail is massively fun so far! I wholeheartedly recommend it!
That being said, miHoYo drastically needs to do a better job at communicating with its translators. Honkai: Star Rail has several errors that are sure to confuse the community immensely.
#HonkaiStarRail
This is a must watch for anyone who takes an interest in the lore of any HoYoverse game!
A new exploration of lore, attempting to cut through the language barrier into matters that have been troubling the community for ages.
#HonkaiImpact3rd
#HonkaiStarRail
#GenshinImpact
The first video in the Exploring the Honkai Universe series is out!!! 🎉😃
This video addresses the various issues with the translation and the inconsistent use of terminology in the games. Go and check it out! 👀
Link is 👇!
#GenshinImpact
#HonkaiStarRail
#HonkaiImpact3rd
The Honkai Impact 3rd story guide has updated.
Video embed have now mostly been replaced with buttons and images. This greatly improves page loading.
We have also split the Phase 2 and Phase 3 pages into two each cut the loading time in half.
It's very normal for a game that is three years more recent to go three times as fast with its QoL at the start. Reason being that they had three more years to learn lessons from their previous games and to avoid 'rigidities' in the code that would make this harder to implement.
🧵A little bit of interesting history:
Houkai3rd started as a manga on June 20, 2015 on HG2 accounts. Over a year before the game. The teaser had 'Pocky Girl' (Wendy), who wouldn't appear in HG2 until the Reborn storyline, way after Venti appeared in the Genshin manga in 2018.
The anime OP style animation with song actually has 2 major versions.
The other one is not on EN youtube.
They did include EN subtitles in the Chinese language youtube. The lyrics are different!
CN version sung by Cha Lili, who sang Reburn for HI3.
Official Release Trailer - "Interstellar Journey" | Honkai: Star Rail
Watch Now:
The planet, but a station on the path,
A new age, forged with each breath.
The journey, danger more than mere dismay,
Yet stars, are an arm's length away.
Pre-installation…
We added a progress bar on the website to show how many scenes of the (recovered) storyline have been adapted into Operation Gekkou!
#HoukaiGakuen2
#honkaiuniverse
@HomuLabs
Additionally worth noting is that, since this is about IP and their different departments, the manga, VNs and animations are listed separately from the games. Even though they are directly intertwined with the games.
Everybody should be allowed to enjoy any of the miHoYo games.
Nobody should feel obligated to play all of them.
But if you aren't playing all of them, don't demean those who play the games you don't play, and don't shut down their role in the conversation. That's just silly.
Additionally, being in an early phase of the game gives less pressure to produce new content, which leaves more leeway to spend time on features that would otherwise be pushed back to the bottom of the priority list with each 6 week cycle.
This concert was both really cute and well put together. And the good music keeps going into and after the credits.
But the last thing I expected was the heartfelt homage to miHoYo's roots.
Bravo!
#HonkaiStarRail
Urgent news! The famous Interastral Peace Corporation presenter Owlbert just received a calling card and is seeking help! Below is the card's content:
💌 Calling Card 💌
After the minute hands runs for 10 laps, the Hound shall serve as the witness, and the melody that cannot…
The Story Guide for Honkai Impact 3rd has been updated! Now covers the first half of Part 1.5, and is restructured to accommodate upcoming content.
We plan to split some of the existing pages later for easier loading and navigation.
#HonkaiImpact3
Since the nature of the Universe is a topic of many strange debates lately, we're building a webpage detailing some of the history of miHoYo building its Universe.
We'll be sharing it soon for your perusal, and it will hopefully be useful for loremasters as well.
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We return again with a new beta version for testing!
Operation Gekkou is a VN and translation project of Houkai Gakuen 2/Guns GirlZ designed to supplement the game for EN readers.
#HoukaiGakuen2
Operation Gekkou is currently opening a new beta version for testing!
OG is a VN and translation of Houkai Gakuen 2/Guns GirlZ, to supplement the game for EN readers.
Please join our discord to participate:
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#houkaigakuen2
#honkaiuniverse
Operation Gekkou is once again opening a new beta version for testing! OG is a VN and translation of Houkai Gakuen 2/Guns GirlZ, to supplement the game for EN readers.
Please join our discord to participate:
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#houkaigakuen2
#honkaiuniverse
Hyperion Team 3rd is one of the most important initiatives in the Honkai Impact 3rd community, aiming to build bridges and foundations for a stronger, healthier fanbase.
And they just launched a podcast! Go show it some love! And don't forget to share and spread the word ;)
The first weekly episode of the CAPTAIN ON THE BRIDGE podcast is out! This week's host is
@Nohr_And_Tea
! ⁽⁽ପ( . .)ଓ⁾⁾
Listen in as we talk about the Honkai Impact 3rd community, what Hyperion Team is, and how this team came together!
⬇️⬇️Link in comments! ⬇️⬇️
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The Hoyostans Story Guide has updated again. Are you ready for
#HonkaiImpact3rdPart2
?
The start of Part 2 has now been added to the guide, covering the animations and trailers that are currently out, as well as some short recaps.
Due to the amount of general interest in the recent chapters of GGZ, we added Bun Bun's release translations. Note: There are 2 more unreleased acts of Ch15.
#HoukaiGakuen2
(Please keep in mind that these have not been through a full review process)
If you haven't watched Homu Labs' series on the Shared Universe of the miHoYo games yet, now's the perfect time!
In this second video, Homu Labs recounts miHoYo's history with the concept in an entertaining comprehensive fashion
#HonkaiStarRail
#HonkaiImpact3rd
#HonkaiUniverse
The second video in the 'Exploring the Honkai Universe' is out. Here is a detailed timeline of the Honkai Universe as a concept, covering every important information about the Cosmology from GGZ, HI3, GI, and HSR. 👀
Link is 👇!
#HonkaiStarRail
#HonkaImpact3rd
#GenshinImpact
@RiberiumRZ
That wouldn't make a lot of sense. Genshin is a confirmed part of the Honkai Universe, and the character versions function the same as for any other world we've seen. Calling them expies simply continues to perpetuate misunderstanding.
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Kuro Game's
#WutheringWaves
is coming up, and I've seen a lot of discourse surrounding its similarities to
#GenshinImpact
The exact contents of the game notwithstanding, I think it's important to understand this fact:
For those who haven't noticed: The new Honkai: Star Rail song, WHITE NIGHT, also has a Chinese vocal version!
English subtitles available.
#HonkaiStarRail
#hoyoverse
Great news everyone!
HSR's new update fixed the Data Bank entry for the Imaginary Tree. Now it says 'infinite universe', as is consistent with the CN text.
Unfortunately, the anti-fraud guide and Chavez have not been fixed.
#HonkaiStarRail
#honkaiuniverse
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This is amazing fanart. Bravo to the artist.
However, to all readers: Temper your expectations accordingly. The complexity of this design would not make it through iteration to get a 3D model in Genshin's visual style.
Looks like we cheered too soon. They're making it worse again.
Clearly the translators are not on the same page about how the Honkai Universe works.
A star system is not a universe. Deviating from the Chinese text only makes it more confusing.
#honkaistarail
One of the terrors of Honkai Universe lore: Multiverse vs Universe.
Also confusing is that the Honkaiverse is not a Universe but a World, distinct from Honkai Universe...
We'll expand upon the info on this page over time.
More posts about this eventually.
The only name tied to the incident, 谷某某, is basically Chinese for 'John Doe', and commonly used for unnamed subjects. We found no police reports. No media coverage. Unheard of for a supposed high profile assassination attempt on one of the biggest media dark horses in China.
New update for Operation Gekkou! Please help us spread the word ;)
V3.4: Dreams and Violins
OG is a VN and translation of Houkai Gakuen 2/Guns GirlZ, to supplement the game for EN readers.
You can find it here:
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#HoukaiGakuen2
#hoyoverse
@WiredRayne
That would be the case if the term was consistently being used under a new definition. That is not the case.
If asked, people usually describe it as something akin to Type 1 rather than something like Bronya here. Others just look it up and also find/use existing definitions.
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We will likely share some highlights from this doc on the twitter from time to time. It has some great trivia.
The doc doesn't cover everything, and likely never will. But trust me, there are some real gems in there worth checking out!
We are not the first to point this out, but the rumour keeps spreading. The infamous 'Bunny Girl Controversy' is mired with misinformation, mischaracterisation and bad faith storycrafting. It has become a vessel for unwarranted hatred against the CN fanbase.
@ninfie
Tesla, Einstein and the other historical figures miHoYo has reimagined this way are also not expies. Tesla explicitly that world's version of Nikola Tesla, as opposed to a character that merely is designed to be *like* Nikola Tesla with no real relation.
It's zKodla :D
Glad the guide can be of service! Thank you so much for spreading it around.
And to everyone who's been sharing the guide and telling all the newbies about it, that thanks extends to you all too!
- Mister Spaceman
i'm planning to reread through all of HI3's manga and refresh my memory on some parts of the earlier game story.
ALSO found out about
@HonkaiCat
and their fan website which does an amazing job at organising the main story/captainverse/events/manga o_o massive kudos!!! 🔥🙌
Status update!
New menu is functional. Now we start reimplementing chapters we previously translated using the new system.
Archive will be moved to the website. Implementing it in-app was slowing us down a lot.
#HoukaiGakuen2
Make no mistake: The Assassination Incident however, probably never occurred, but the Bunny Girl Controversy did happen, and there was a lot of bad blood between various parties. Still, it should be approached with nuance and contextual literacy.
As promised, here's a first random highlight:
"Magicians are without the concept of gender. Male, but also female, their gender is 'magician'."
- Vidar, Guns GirlZ main screen dialogue.
#HoukaiGakuen2
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How gay or queer are
#HonkaiImpact3rd
and
#HoukaiGakuen2
really? It's often said, but is it true?
Faced with this challenge, Haeldral had the fun idea to collect anything we could find into a google doc.
We found a lot more than we expected.
Quick info about the progress of Operation Gekkou: we're currently addressing the retranslation of the Homu Paradise chapters.
Following screenshots show previews of 'lookahead mode'. MTL chapters under construction will be available in the app.
#houkaigakuen2
The Honkai Universe as we know it has been confirmed through lore and developer's word to contain:
Guns GirlZ
Honkai Impact 3rd
Genshin Impact
Honkai: Star Rail
Tears of Themis and Zenless Zone Zero are possible, but not confirmed.
Return to the Retrospective Era with Operation Gekkou!
Update 3.1 has arrived with Homu Paradise. Two new short chapters in the new format!
#houkaigakuen2
#honkaiuniverse
Find it here (downloadable version recommended):
This kind of stuff is why I love miHoYo. You don't make this kind of thing because it makes you more money. You make this kind of thing because you have the money to do it.
Knowing the Universe: Galactic Rhapsody
Watch Now:
There are infinite planets, infinite stories, and infinite possibilities in the universe. Our bodies yet grounded by the gravity, our rhapsody for the unknown will not cease.
Guest: Didier Queloz…
Here we see the Chinese and English versions of the same page. As we wrote in Hoyodex, HI3 mistranslates 'world' to 'universe'.
We've marked 'world' on the Chinese page: 世界 (shìjiè)(sekai)
On this page, they are talking about going from HI3
Earth to the world of HSR Himeko.
@PSSF23
This is very much not the case. Welt Yang is there because he recognised Himeko.
SW and Bronya Rand are alternate world versions. The Express travels between parallel worlds. Clear from the Data Bank.
If you want to play Star Rail with a different voice over, don't forget to change it in the menu before playing!
It's already available in the predownload version.
#HonkaiStarRail
Small update to the HI3 story guide:
- Added some extra context lore regarding GGZ connections.
- Added some more bonus stuff, like the live action Da Wei shorts
- Added a couple of events we missed.
- Added Behind the Scenes content
#HonkaiImpact3rd
Not too long ago we did a poll that determined Rozaliya Olenyeva is the true protagonist of Honkai Impact 3rd.
With Part 2, a 2nd protagonist has arisen: Coralie 6626 Planck.
It's greatly disappointing that we have yet to see any fanart of Rozaliya passing the torch to Coralie.
Honkai Impact 3rd has a wide variety of characters, many of whom have a great impact on the story.
It's a matter of time before the wars between Kiana fans and Dream Seeker fans begin.
So let's settle it now. Who is the TRUE protagonist of Honkai Impact 3rd?
#Honkailmpact3rd
By extension, there is no reason to have conflicts regarding other games like PGR, Wuthering Waves, Arknights etc. We all just like to play good games, and we all have our preferences.
I know I'm probably preaching to the choir, but it needs to be reaffirmed from time to time.
No community is a homogeneous entity, and everywhere we have those who love to craft false narratives for their own agendas. Be it to villainise the entire CN community, Global community, miHoYo themselves, or even fans of the games as a whole.
#ZenlessZoneZero
cbt3 has been really fun so far. It's a strong polished game.
However, one concern is that it appears event content will have its story segments be time limited.
Hopefully miHoYo comes out with a system more similar to HSR's to remedy this.
- Mister Spaceman
To identify where such rumours start and how they escalate is difficult. But we've seen more than our fair share of Mandela effects and games of Telephone in this community. When spreading info, be responsible, and stress incertitude on that which cannot be confirmed.
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Starting from the back and working our way to the front, we're replacing video embeds in the guide with these neat little buttons.
As much as I loved having the little embed players, they drastically worsen loading time, and it has shown to be a problem for some users.
Bilibili uploaded special messages from the Star Rail Chinese voice over cast. If anybody reuploads and subtitles them, let us know and we'll share it around!
#HonkaiStarRail
And as the final bit of news today: The GGZ Story Guide has been revamped and prepped for the continuation of Operation Gekkou.
Files have been transferred to my new pc, HoP has provided a useful plugin, and I'm getting back into Ren'py.
#houkaigakuen2
#honkaiuniverse
Making this summary is extremely difficult. Each time we think we have it figured out, something pops up that turns the whole thing upside down.
We have now found three different words that mean 'multiverse', although in none of those cases does it refer to the Imaginary Tree.
Honkai Impact 3rd has a wide variety of characters, many of whom have a great impact on the story.
It's a matter of time before the wars between Kiana fans and Dream Seeker fans begin.
So let's settle it now. Who is the TRUE protagonist of Honkai Impact 3rd?
#Honkailmpact3rd
@wet_newdle
Genshin's world is confirmed part of the Honkai Universe. Though the game's designed to work as standalone for new players, so most of the time it's not super noticeable. They are indeed not expies either.
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Now this one is frankly upsetting.
A refresher:
宇宙 (Yǔzhòu)(Uchū) means Universe
世界 (shìjiè)(sekai) means World
In the Imaginary Tree explanation, they mostly got it right (apart from that plural). But they mess it up the same way as HI3 here.
#HonkaiStarRail
Mister Spaceman here.
Still working through the feedback on the Operation Gekkou Beta, improving on some issues and fixing small errors before implementing the remaining chapters in the new version.
There is always some oddity that catches me off guard while working on this.
We added a disclaimer to the shared Universe page. We've noticed some people get rather heated as they're sharing this page, and that's honestly not our intent.
The info on this page can be a useful tool for discussions about these topics, so please use it amicably.
A few small additions based on early feedback:
Added a few more lines about Aeons.
Added a few more lines about the Honkai.
Added a block about Character versions.
We'll add more visuals for these at a later date.
We'll need to make a small edit to the article about Exploring the Honkai Universe. It is probably so that HI3 and GGZ both don't state that the Honkai ís a civilisation, but rather that the Honkai is used by it.
Personally, I am very disappointed that they did not distribute this version on non-Chinese platforms. Separating versions like this increases cultural alienation.
However, it is a big relief that they included subtitles on the Chinese language youtube, that's a big deal.
It was incredibly fun to be on this episode.
#honkaiimpact3rd
and
#HonkaiStarRail
relations and cosmology with Azrial Vanity and Homu Labs!
- Mister Spaceman
(Big spoilers for HI3 Part 1 and 1.5 and GGZ Reborn, smaller spoilers for HSR)
⚓️ On this week's episode of Captain On The Bridge podcast: It's March 7th, Star Rail and Honkai Impact 3rd!
Join our hosts,
@Azrial_Vanity
,
@HomuLabs
, &
@HonkaiCat
as we dive into lore, connections and similarities between these two Honkai games.
Video below ⬇️⬇️⬇️
Basic framework for Honkai: Star Rail info on the Hoyodex is done!
We invite everyone to add info about characters, lore, VAs, trivia etc, or to proofread existing pages for errors and missing info.
The more the merrier!
#honkaistarrail
I had a great time with Mister Spaceman and Nohr talking about our little Teri and GGZ. I am thankful for this opportunity and hope to do more in the future.
- JKCrafted
This was a blast. Hosting was nerve wracking, but the joy of the episode was worth it!
- Mister Spaceman
⚓️ On this week's episode of Captain On The Bridge podcast: Theresa B-day + GGZ!!
Join our hosts
@HonkaiCat
,
@CraftedJk
, &
@Nohr_And_Tea
this week as we celebrate two important dates, Theresa's birthday and the 10th anniversary of Houkai Gakuen 2!
Video below ⬇️⬇️⬇️
TLDR;
#Honkailmpact3rd
started as a manga a year before the game, and is a parallel world to
#HoukaiGakuen2
Please note that this is us digging through old Chinese posts even many CN players have forgotten. We may need to amend our discoveries as we find more.
#HonkaiUniverse
Throughout the lore, consistently, we see the word 宇宙 (Yǔzhòu)(Uchū)(Universe) used as something all encompassing, containing the entirety of the Imaginary Tree/Tree of Existence (which is said to be a flawed interpretation of reality, but we'll probably learn more that later)
Two extra updates:
1. The article about the Universe was slightly corrected. Instead of 'the Honkai is a merged existence', it now says 'the Honkai is controlled by a merged existence', to better align with the known info.