“...condensed matter physicists study nonliving matter, and biological physicists study living matter...you will have a hard time convincing me that you and I and other living creatures are not the most interesting matter in the universe.” - Rob Phillips
Meta-analysis of pre-vaccination era COVID infection fatality rate:
The median IFR was
0.0003% at 0–19 years,
0.002% at 20–29 years,
0.011% at 30–39 years,
0.035% at 40–49 years,
0.123% at 50–59 years, and 0.506% at 60–69 years.
From the new FOIA release by
@JamesCTobias
. State Department approval for NIH grant by
@EcoHealthNYC
🔴Humanized mice
🔴5-6 Novel SARS-related coronaviruses
🔴"All work involving samples and viral isolates from bats
will be performed at the Wuhan Institute of Virology"
Moderna CEO Stéphane Bancel:
"...escape from a lab by an accident, it's possible, humans make mistakes - so is it possible that the Wuhan lab in China was looking at virus enhancement or gene modification and then there was an accident, somebody was infected...it is possible"
You see, when it could get Peter Daszak more funding, he was more than happy to promise "rapid detection of natural and laboratory-enhanced threats.”
But as soon as it was his affiliated lab involved, now it's a conspiracy theory 😅
By
@ianbirrell
***UPDATE***
Just unredacted. Fauci's immediate response to KGA's concern about the "Furine" [sic] site was the the FBI and MI5 should be contacted, if it was "validated"
H/T
@emilyakopp
Credit:
@JamesCTobias
After a long
#FOIA
fight, I just received a bunch of new unredacted emails detailing the Feb 1 2020 teleconference between Dr. Fauci and virologists discussing SARS-Cov-2:
I think this is kind of a big deal. Dr. Brix is trying to portray herself in her new book as part of the "resistance" inside the Trump admin.
Dr. Birx: SARS2 "came out of the box ready to infect" possibly because of serial passage in human cells in a lab.
Lancet report is out!
"No independent, transparent, and science-based investigation has been carried out... The laboratory
notebooks, databases, email records, and samples of
institutions involved in such research have not been made
available to independent researchers"
@EWErickson
<Private company removes posts>
Conservatives: "Help, I'm being cancelled!
<Autocratic regime cracks down on press freedom>
Conservatives: ShrugEmoji
Scientists who believe:
*The location in Wuhan was a coincidence
*The FCS was a coincidence
*The CGG CGG codons were a coincidence
*The database going offline was a coincidence
Should probably refrain from using the word "parsimonious"
NYT Sunday print.
Thank you, especially to all the public health people who wrote to me privately — like them, I want to defend public health institutions under much unfair attack and recognize voicing painful truths are necessary to strengthen them.
Denial does the opposite.
Creating chimeric viruses by mixing-and-matching spikes and backbones from different coronaviruses, and testing them in humanized mice so Daszak can say:
"...This work proves there is a clear and present danger for the future emergence of novel SARS-like viruses in people..."
"Surveillance of SARS-CoV-2 at the Huanan Seafood Market" has finally been published in Nature. It specifically argues against the market origin hypothesis, using more complete data than was provided for the Worobey et al. analysis.
@ChristinaPushaw
@GovRonDeSantis
I feel like a lot of confusion by the national media would be avoided if they actually visited Florida and knew what a Publix is.
Former Director of National Intelligence "...will explain... U.S. intelligence and evidence... the lab leak side of the ledger would be long and overwhelming while the ‘spillover’ side would be nearly empty."
Ralph Baric, the world expert in making recombinant coronaviruses, has been consistent in saying it should only be done at BSL3
Only NOW we find out he was already worried Chinese scientists would do it at BSL2, even while drafting the DEFUSE proposal!
"The U.S. intelligence community and health officials opposed publishing information about the Wuhan Institute of Virology because it could raise questions about research and labs supported by the U.S..."
Via
@emilyakopp
@USRightToKnow
Just bask in the awful, fallacious reasoning.
(1) I don't want to talk about lab manipulation, so take it out
(2) We don't have evidence that they had a precursor virus, so that means they didn't
(3) Colossal Strawman
(4) Discussing this hypothesis is bad for our interests
@emilyakopp
Everything is coming out in drips.
First the EcoHealth report (2 years late) is filed in 2021, showing experiments with humanized mice.
The "Wild West" emails were redacted until recently
And only yesterday, we find out that the State department and (Fauci?) knew the whole time
Nicholas Wade is great:
"New documents may explain why no one has been able to find the SARS2 virus... infesting a colony of bats, from which it might have jumped to people. The reason would be that the virus has never existed in the natural world"
"malinformation is...in the eye of the beholder since it is defined not by its alleged inaccuracy but by its perceived threat to public health...often amounts to nothing more than questioning the wisdom, honesty or authority of those experts."
@CharlieCrist
"Remember how for 2 years we said that Ron "DeathSantis" was endangering Florida citizens by recklessly keeping the economy and schools open? Well, forget it because we are now going to pretend like that never happened"
Note: Fauci was told right away EcoHealth was "among the biggest players in Coronavirus work", and the virus appeared in a major city containing a lab they were working with - not in a rural area near "people highly exposed to bats" or "living at the wildlife-human interface"
Former CDC director Robert Redfield (who is also a virologist):
"We are calling for a moratorium on all gain of function research, where it is forbidden to deliberately alter a pathogen to provoke or assess its ability to spread among or sicken humans"
Apologists for the Proximal Authors like to focus on 'changing your mind is part of science'.
But the slack messages revealed things that are absolutely not part of regular science:
🧵
Press release:
"we can firmly determine that SARS-CoV-2 originated through natural processes"
Proximal Origin:
"we do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible"
Now:
we were "never excluding the possibility of a 'lab leak' "
Ralph Baric:
You must resist the temptation to add a furin cleavage site to this reverse-genetic virus based on a sequence found in the wild, no matter how alluring the possibility seems - and even if you have a shiny and unfailing BSL3 lab.
Reason not to do this (add furin site to this pangolin virus) is that it could be dangerous--the kind of thing to cause a pandemic.
Lab-leakers will say Baric is warning against what already happened. (i.e. someone did put furin site into SARS2 predecessor, causing pandemic)
Dr. Fauci has repeatedly stated in interviews that he "has nothing to hide".
Releasing full, unredacted emails in response to FOIA requests is an absolute minimum for transparency.
When we FOIA the NIH to release communications discussing a lab leak, and they give us this:
then it's 100% reasonable to ask: "What are they hiding?" What was in-between the intro & signature of this redacted email?
This is an insult to all Americans.
Maybe the fact that Peter Daszak and Shi Zhengli were at NIAID in 2017, talking about getting money for "SARS, MERS and the risk of novel viral emergence from bats", is something the public should have been told before now.
@jimmy_dore
Just to clarify, it's not "from the NIH." It is a scientific paper published in the "American Journal of Therapeutics" available on the PubMed platform hosted by the NIH. This is like saying a book is "from the US government" because you found it in the library of Congress
Before: Lab leak hypothesis is a 'shiny object' that will go away
Now: Hey, if there was a leak, we didn't do it.
(The uncomfortable position of using a defense that requires having to admit knowledge of something instead of just denying everything. 'Oh THAT virus lab...')
Seems pretty big!
In July of 2020, the
@nih
suspended a grant from
@EcoHealthNYC
until they
🔴Explain the disappearance of Huang Yanling(!)
🔴Explain the diminished cell phone traffic and roadblocks around the WIV
🔴Explain why they tried to hide the connection with RaTG13
Just let this sink in. The State Department, via USAID, was funding coronavirus research in Wuhan before the pandemic started. Yet they refuse to release the grant proposals or progress reports to *Congress* . They offer only to provide 'briefings'. Totally unacceptable!
Lancet COVID commission chair:
"I am pretty convinced it came out of US lab biotechnology, not out of nature."
WHO SAGO:
"evaluate the possibility of the introduction...through a laboratory incident"
Defense Intelligence Agency:
may have been genetically modified
One of the most vocal (and quoted by the media) virologists is letting everyone know that no amount of scientific evidence will change her mind - all because the CCP claims they are innocent.
@MJnanostretch
I hope people will start to realize that this attitude of 'I know I'm right, no amount of new information will change my mind' is exactly the thing science was made to counteract.
She *knows* it's not true (how?) but even if true, she *knows* they didn't have a progenitor (how?)
OMG. The NIH literally said the WIV wanted to delete sequences they had already submitted because of "version control issues," and that they "can’t speculate on motive beyond a submitter’s stated intentions"
"Fauci insisted...not responsible for inviting attendees to the call with virologists."
"...the people we brought in, we tried to get a large Interational group of people together so we could have well representation." - Fauci Sworn Deposition
Excellent technical post by
@ydeigin
for why natural recombination is **not** a good explanation for how SARS2 became the only SARS-like coronavirus with a furin cleavage site
The alternative hypothesis of a researcher trying to see what would happen fits the observations better
Just a reminder that SARS2 remains unique in the SARS-like viruses family not only because of its FCS but also because the insertion that created the FCS made the loop at the S1/S2 junction 4 amino acids longer than that of any known SARS-like virus.
And no, RmYN02 does not
Satire?
Q. Do you know Ralph Baric?
A. Not really. I know who he is. I doubt if I've ever met him...
Q. How about...Zhengli Shi?
A. I believe, if I'm correct, that this is a scientist who is at the Wuhan Institute of Virology...I get sometimes confused with Asian names
This is some really messed up, Kafka-esque logic.
'We don't need to be careful where we step, there hasn't been shown to be a landmine directly in front of us.'
>So why are we out here at all?
'We're looking for landmines'
Amazing exchange between Daszak and the House Select counsel.
TLDR: Daszak claims to have burned through millions of taxpayer dollars to test whether SARS can infect mice. It had nothing to do with humans.
He’s either a pathological liar or he thinks we’re all stupid (or both).
People are mostly unaware of how all of the major papers used to claim a "scientific consensus" on the natural origin of COVID were actually authored by the same core clique
Many of these authors (and Peter Daszak) were on a 2021 email from David
#Morens
about how he evades FOIA
Here is the entire peer-review report for an invited commentary that was accepted the same day as it was submitted!
While looking at the proofs a week later, the very same authors privately express their doubts to each other.
@USRightToKnow
@emilyakopp
@garyruskin
Wow.
Proximal Origin had been cast into the category of "Bad-Faith Science" by
@BenMazer
@TheAtlantic
"Each of these revelations brought demands that the affected papers be retracted...on the grounds that their authors had been hiding doubts about their own conclusions."
"Wrote Andersen on February 1, 2020, 'I think the main thing still in my mind is that the lab escape version of this is so friggin' likely to have happened because they were already doing this type of work and the molecular data is fully consistent with that scenario.'"
"Fauci, however, laughed as he mocked the theory... 'The microbe that we were working on, not only was not SARS-CoV-2, it would be molecularly impossible for them to turn it into SARS-CoV-2' "
If it leaked from a lab "we" didn't do it!
Absolutely Incredible.
From April 16, nearly a month after Proximal Origin was published.
Prof. Andersen: "We also can't fully rule out engineering (for basic research)"
Bombshell by
@galexybrane
,
@lwoodhouse
,
@shellenberger
@mtaibbi
Any more questions?
"Seems to have been pre-adapted for human spread" - Eddie Holmes
"(Potentially) looks engineered"
- Kristian Andersen
"I really can't think of a plausible natural scenario" [that inserts the FCS without changing nearby amino acids] - Bob Garry
❗ Kristian Andersen responds❗
What's amazing is that NOW he wants to delve into the doubts they displayed in the early drafts, now that they have been revealed against all of their best efforts.
@JamesCTobias
Lots more proposing to shift work from UNC to Wuhan
"pretty unclear who is doing what"
"Peter said you should set up the subcontract..."
"I think we should just subcontract with WU [Wuhan University?] to engineer the RCN constructs"
Summary of the COVID origin debate
FBI, DoE, former DNI, & former biodefense and epidemic response guy:
'Intel makes us think it was a lab leak'
Some scientists:
'Based almost entirely on data China gave the WHO, we're super sure it was natural'
"It is incredibly frustrating...to watch Dr. Fauci go on television and say things that are absolutely not supported by the intelligence. We’re seeing the intelligence...We’ve seen it. We’ve voted to say, show the American people"
So the theory is: out of all the cities in China, a bat CoV with a FCS just "coincidentally" spilled over to start a pandemic in the city with a lab on a proposal to add a FCS to bat CoVs. And then the government "conspired" to hide the evidence to protect their animal trade?
Ralph Baric in 2016 making chimeric WIV1-CoV viruses better at infecting humanized mice. To argue for more permissive GoF regulations,he "cannot exclude the possibility" that it might escape, but "erring on the side of caution is not without its own risks.
It seems like every day, yet another paper is published that undermines the conclusions of a small group of virologists that the origin of COVID is settled. How to keep them all straight?
Here is a list of references, with a short tagline.
Instead of vague platitudes, let's go point-by-point about how the Proximal Origin authors got from 'f*** this looks bad' to “we do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible.”
"Peter Daszak's smoke and mirrors operation has failed to predict any pandemics and has proven incapable of finding an alleged natural source of COVID-19 despite the federal government funding him tens of millions of dollars to do both" Sen Roger Marshall
Someone actually went through all of the Betacoronvirus genomes on NCBI and counted the codons usage. For the Asia region, out of the 146,677 RR amino acids motifs, want to guess how many were CGG CGG?
"One scientist told us...'If we investigate and expose an error on the part of scientists, then the public will no longer trust science.' As if choosing to deliberately not uncover ...error would make people trust science more."
@mattwridley
&
@Ayjchan
"Knowing FCSs were not found in nature in these SARS-related viruses I also knew that for years scientists have been artificially putting new FCSs into viruses to see what they do...increased infectivity, transmissibility, pathogenicity..." -
@quay_dr
2019 Unpublished project by Ben Hu: "Pathogenicity of 2 new bat SARS-related CoVs to transgenic mice expressing human ACE2"
2020 article by Baric and Shi: "Pathogenesis of SARS-CoV-2 in Transgenic Mice Expressing Human Angiotensin-Converting Enzyme 2"
H/T
@SharriMarkson
@Sander_vdLinden
At the time, Tom Cotton was explicitly trying to distinguish his opinions from what his political opponents were trying to conflate his views with.
It looks like you accepted incorrect information at face value.
❗
Q: "Do you know if the WIV had access to additional backbones or unpublished full-length virus"
Baric: "I'm sure they were working on other full-length molecular clones"
The notion that a cadre of prestigious scientists would systematic lie to journalists on a matter of vital importance to the world seemed to be so absurd as to edge into a deranged conspiracy theory.
Yet here we are.
IMO Looks pretty damning from these new emails that Peter Daszak actually did not know the WIV had really done the (very controversial) MERS chimera work they had proposed to the NIH... And then tried to blame the spokesman!
@JamesCTobias
@emilyakopp
Ecohealth was "involved heavily" in proposal to do "MERS work" and someone thought Baric might want "contract work" validating the synthetic viruses with his humanized (DPP4) mice?
Even since Kristian Andersen's "crackpot" email on Feb 4, 2020, the concept of an engineered origin was considered off the table by many based on the very flimsy logic of not recognizing the backbone as a previously published infectious clone.
Our work should lay this to rest.
@robert_zubrin
It adds credence to the lab leak hypothesis as it shows gain-of-function genetic engineering being performed in Wuhan on unpublished viruses related to pandemic CoVs like MERS. So similar work could well have been done in Wuhan on SARS-like CoVs — as proposed in DEFUSE.
Dear
@voxdotcom
,
Linking to the same controversial scientific article twice in a paragraph does not make something "we know for sure"
"but we know for sure that the virus is not the product of deliberate gene editing in a lab..."
@Ayjchan
@R_H_Ebright
Peter Daszak carefully negotiating behind the scenes to "walk the line" between EcoHealth getting blamed and NIH looking negligent.
Fauci's advisor assures him Collins is just doing it to protect all of them(!)
"David, I'll send some bullets for you to pass on to Tony later on"
Amazing interaction between
@SenRandPaul
and Secretary of State
@ABlinken
.
The State department is hiding documents not just from the American people, but from Congress as well. Why all the secrecy? Both houses voted unanimously for records to be declassified.
The American people need to know what the State Department is funding. Today I questioned Sec. Blinken on their involvement in COVID research. What is the State Department hiding? Why won't they give these records to the American people?
How the DEFUSE proposal explains many unusual features of SARS2
🟡Mice with humanized ACE2
[adaptation to humans]
🟢Making novel infectious clones
🟠"Unknown recombinants"
[Backbone doesn't match known systems]
🟣Inserting a furin cleavage site
[Only SarbeCoV with an FCS]
Here is a section of a 2018 proposal drafted by
@PeterDaszak
(who investigated SARS-CoV-2 origin for WHO... conflict of interest?!). Read it and tell me that you still think the lab-leak origin is 'improbable'.
This work was to take place in the Wuhan Institute of Virology. 1/2
@emilyakopp
This is brazen Meta-gaslighting (ie. gaslighting about previous incidents of gaslighting)
Let's remember what the lead author of that "paper" said in an official press release when it was published:
"We can firmly determine that SARS-CoV-2 originated through natural processes"
A very disconcerting article. Because COVID turned out to be airborne, most of the advice from the WHO at first was exactly wrong:
6 ft social distancing ❌
Sanitizing surfaces ❌
Physical barriers ❌
Outdoor restrictions❌
As opposed to better ventilation
The journal
@mbiojournal
has been one of the biggest advocates for gain-of-function research. Let's revisit some of their arguments back in 2014 around flu viruses:
'Won't someone please think of the postdocs! And our ability to recruit the best students'
@kenklippenstein
CNN can't decide between: "Of course he helped, it's his brother!" and "Of course he can be objective, he's a professional" and "I wonder why no one trusts us anymore"
There is a lot of irony here, because someone once accused Robert Redfield, who was CDC director during that time, of pushing the possibility of lab leak as a way of distracting from his own poor performance.
Here it looks like resistance hero Dr. Brix is actually doing that.
We Desperately Need More Accountability From NIH
"...NIH... dole out grants, received nine figures' worth of private royalties for the results of the taxpayer-funded research and then used more taxpayer dollars to fight key disclosures in court."
I didn't even remember this one:
(Nature 2017) "A laboratory in Wuhan is on the cusp of being cleared to work with the world's most dangerous pathogens...Some scientists outside China worry about pathogens escaping..."
This would be like discovering a group email list with the judge, expert witnesses, defense lawyers, and suspect all getting together to chatter on about how mean the prosecutor was.
"They bring viruses that we may never interact with. They bring them back to the lab, but then they manipulate them by combining them with other viruses to create viruses that don't exist in nature."
This is why science is done in the open and not in secret conclave of a private conference call (Feb20):
The Proximal Authors did notice the suspicious RE site spacing. It was dismissed as "random chance" by someone EVEN Dr. Andersen said was "too conflicted to think" straight!
Scientists want to spend hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars to hunt for new *potentially* dangerous viruses, yet seem uninterested in exerting a fraction of the effort to understand what allowed a virus to *actually* cause a global pandemic- an anomalous furin cleavage site
For example, if a massive forest fire might’ve started from a highly funded research program where scientists try to understand the best ways for fires to start in forests, the answer cannot be to accelerate and pour more funding into that same research.
Some of
@quay_dr
statement from today.
Missing seropositivity, Humanized mice, furin cleavage site, DEFUSE, RBD acclamation, and CGG codons all referenced on this one page.
Anyone who said:
'If you are merely a scientist, but not a virologist, you must defer to the experiese of a small cadre of virologists when they make a spatial statistics argument'
should now, only logically, defer to the actual spatial stats experts 😅
The location in Wuhan was a "crazy coincidence," and the (0.09%) CGG CGG codons are not 'impossibly scarecrow" according to Kristen Andersen.
Now, "by almost pure happenstance," they discovered some data that for some reason was posted 3 years late, and deleted a week later.