Worried about Hunt? Unsure where the blame lays in this disappointing tale? Again, the
@NRL_Dragons
are in the news and in
#crisis
and there is a decent scoop you may not all be aware of. A thread: 🧵 1/
Foxsports head of television - Steve Crawley
Daily Telegraph league journalist - Paul Crawley
Dragons assistant coach - Michael Crawley
Is it any wonder McGregor has no attention placed on him? His assistant coaches family controlling the narrative.
#fantheflame
#redv
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@NZWarriors
washing their hands of Volkman issue entirely. Just hoping everyone forgets they let a guy who's shoulder reco had failed play 3
@NRL
games and 22 in Reserves, not to mention played an International against NZ.
But somehow the
@NRL_Dragons
are the
I have the scoop on the
@NRL_Dragons
board member who is blocking Shane Flanagan as coach; the who, the why and the what’s next. Another chapter in the story of a Joint Venture that was supposed to be called a ‘Super club’. 🧵 1/12
Talk that
@NRL_Dragons
can’t pay out McGregor is a financial misnomer.
2018 av crowd figures- 16606
2019 av crowd figures- 9813
= 6500 less.
6500 more fans times $30 ticket x 12 home games = $2.34m pa
Its financial sense to install a new coach.
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@NRL_Dragons
Frank Facer watches on in dismay at the club he helped build into the most formidable in rugby league cannibalises itself; chief among them a self-serving executive who has been the architect of the Saints twenty-five years of disappointment. 12/12
#nrl360
Buderus and Moore suggest Paul Green step aside as he has peaked at Cowboys. He has 4/6 finals appearances, one prem and one runner up. His team sits 14th. McGregor has 2/6 finals appearances, no prem or runner up and sits 15th; no pressure. Why?
#fantheflame
#redv
How long until
@NRL_Dragons
actually address the issue rather than smokescreen with Phil Gould?
* Club needs overhaul of management
* Club needs overhaul of pathways
* Club needs new head coach
* Club needs to reengage with fans
#redv
#fantheflame
@9_Moley
@markMGgeyer
Haran has been an ongoing problem for the Dragons. He is responsible for the broken pathways, driven away highly qualified staff from the club and overseen the clubs worst era of performance. Of all the people that need to be moved on from the club, he is top of the list. 6/
100% right
@BuzzRothfield
- clear, concise and correct journalism at its best. Well done. The
@NRL_Dragons
need to review their entire coaching framework, and that means McGregor should be part of review; he is an employee just like other parts of system.
#redv
#fantheflame
"I think the coach needs to be reviewed as much as any other employee at the
@NRL_Dragons
"
Phil Rothfield on Gus Gould review of the Dragons.
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Despite the boards rejection of Young, they are now in a position where the fans are prepared to revolt en masse if either Young or Hornby are appointed. “Gross managerial misconduct” is how they see such an appointment. 10/12
Losing Hunt provides a young spine of Sloan, Amone, Sullivan and Liddle the chance to develop a combintion and grow. Their upside is far more significant than housing all our eggs in one basket – especially a basket that cannot kick a field goal to ice the game. 21/21
This power structure is consolidated with Ben Haran climbing through the ranks to become the GM of Football; he successfully saw off 18 important positions within the club, including Peter Mulholland, Tony Ayoub and Jason Demetriou (yes, current successful Souths coach). 3/12
Paul Green - 1 premiership, 1 runner up, 4/6 finals, currently 14th.
Paul McGregor - 0 premierships, 0 runner up, 2/6 finals, currently 15th.
Why is NO journalist actually pressuring this point? Can someone PLEASE give some real, sustained coverage
#fantheflame
@markMGgeyer
For the club not to sign Flanagan and opt for one of two untested junior coaches would identify the abject disarray the board is in and again cement the truth that Peter Doust’s influence extends past the wishes of the Board, Chairman or CEO at the Dragons. 11/12
@PhilGould15
surely this can’t be on report? Surely!? Please, PLEASE do something to stop this madness. Tell the
@NRL_Dragons
to fight the charge. Someone has to stop this before we end up playing touch football.
So, let me get this straight,
@BulldogRitchie
- Knights fans deserve better than the saga their club delivered; Tigers fans deserve better than their performance on Sunday; but
@NRL_Dragons
fans are to blame for the woes of Saints? Look forward to your dialogue on this.
#redv
This is not success. This is not a pass mark. This is not a reason to persist. McGregor needs to be let go and a new coach hired before its too late. We need
#Shaun
#Wane
to transform and save
@NRL_Dragons
and we need more media support to bring attention to the issue.
#redv
Doust consolidates his power through ‘thicker than blood’ relationships with disgraced board member Craig Young and incompetent Haran; all risk losing their grip on the clubs operations should an outsider be appointed. 6/12
As close to the mark as we’ll get from mainstream journalists. Don’t kid yourselves,
@NRL_Dragons
fans; Gould is a smoke screen to distract and give hope of change. Nothing will come of it and we’ll be in the same spot next year.
#redv
#fantheflame
Tonight is the clearest indication that Hunt is not fit to be a half back and that Sullivan is ‘the real deal’. The sooner we
#punthunt
the better for the squad.
#birdbrain
can go with him.
The primary reasons are the nepotistic relationship Doust and Young share and Young’s shocking performance as defence coach (the Cowboys are currently worst in the NRL for defence). 9/12
Peter Doust has actively campaigned against Shane Flanagan as coach of
@NRL
Dragons to ensure the power structure he wants within the football department is retained. 2/12
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Those three specific members of the footballing department all had fractured relationships with Haran and identified both he and Millward (also still at the club) were cancerous to the welfare of the club, players, and key external stakeholders. 4/12
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Fans will see this as a loss. I disagree for many reasons. The first is any captain worth his salt doesn’t do this to their club. The second is no club should be held to ransom by one player; particularly one who has drained over $6m and only returned two finals appearances. 18/
@steele_sports
My understanding is that it is Piggott, who is holding strong with Doust.
6 for,
1 against,
1 undecided.
That is how the cards stand.
I expect tomorrows meeting to have a resolution. Pray sanity prevails.
We can't afford to pay out McGregor, but we CAN afford to hire two ex-coaches to support him, fire Hornby, fire Head (who took CC team to top 4) then keep Young? Are the
@NRL_Dragons
for real?! This is bordering on corporate malpractice.
#redv
McGregor contract extended 17/4
Stats since by
@NRL_Dragons
:
* 4-14 W/L
* 295 / 461 For/Against
* 9 rep players
This by a coach working 14hrs on 600k. We cannot sustain another year of this.
#fantheflame
#redv
#NRL360
But ‘why’ Flanagan in particular? The former Sharks coach is managed by Isaac Moses; a man Doust has had a running dispute with for nearly twenty years. The two are like oil and water. 7/12
This answers the question of why Ryles was first approached; he was the compromise at board level as Doust wished for Young to be given the role first. Virtually all the board – Lancaster in particular – were opposed to Young being elevated for many reasons. 8/12
This is the cost of poor coaches. Poor management of our club leading to unsuccessful custodians means financial impact to Saints. The club is bleeding cash from crowds dropping and not getting best result from sponsors. We need change
#fantheflame
#redv
@9_Moley
@BuzzRothfield
#askkenty
Can
@NRL_Dragons
sit down with me and talk through the problem between fans and club? If not, why? How come we don’t get a chance to have our say? We’d stop bring banners if we got a chance to have sensible discussion.
#redv
#fantheflame
#censorship
Peter Doust – a key figure of the Dragons club since 1995 – has been part of the JV board since inception in several roles save one year post his retirement as CEO. 5/12
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Two of the last three NSW Origin hookers have been from the
@NRL_Dragons
, and the current Qld 9 is from our club. And yet, we play Hunt out of position and have let the others go. We are fantastic at identifying talent at the
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These are not the celebrities we deserve, but the celebrities we need.
Craig Young primed to take over from Brian Johnston at
@NRL_Dragons
Word on the street is he will be announced on the week of JDB case being resolved. A critical opportunity for change will be lost.
#saveoursaints
The situation escalated in the last week when GM of Football Ben Haran mishandled Hunt so badly the Dragons captain identified to
#redv
management that he was ‘done’ and would be leaving post-Origin. He has, effectively, played his last game for the club. 5/
They still blame Wayne Bennett for the mess Nathan Brown is leaving in Newcastle - but closer examination reveals the truth is something far different, writes PAUL CRAWLEY
Additionally, go watch Game 2 in SOO, 2020 when Hunt was called off the bench to play 5/8 after Cameron Munster left the field. At 29 and under master coach Wayne Bennett, it can only be said that Hunt choked in the cauldron. He is not the elite half many think he is. 20/
*Origin star wants out of club!
*Knights lose promising back to rival club
*English clubs chase veteran prop
*You won’t believe who richest centre in the game is!
Apparently Lachlan Timm is not aggressive enough, and that is why he is not picked. Its also why he is looking elsewhere.
Yet Jeremy Latimore is deemed aggressive enough..?
When will people put McGregor under the scruitiny he deserves?
#fantheflame
#redv
@NRL_Dragons
Some of
@NRL_Dragons
younnger talent. But not even in consideration for promotion despite terrible, passionless performances from some in team. Why not promote Rava to centre and Tristan to wing?
#fantheflame
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'It's been an out-an-out disaster'
@brentread_7
and
@BulldogRitchie
discuss whether St. George-Illawarra Dragons fans will have any luck in getting Mary McGregor removed.
#NRL
Exactly
@pmens72
! This is a double standard. We want our voice heard just like the Knights. They have suffered like we have suffered. How long until the club engages with us? How long until the media listens to our concerns? We just want the best for
@NRL_Dragons
#fantheflame
All we hear from the media on the Knights fiasco is they feel for the fans.
Yet Saints fans are branded whingers and fickle because they aren’t happy with the club 2nd last on the table.
Double standards
Have a listen. I think
@FatimaKdouh_
hits the nail on the head, but Crawley also makes valid points.
This is not a true review of
@NRL_Dragons
. This is a way to deflect attention and stay the course. We need genuine change and fan engagement.
#redv
#fantheflame
@BuzzRothfield
Saints need new direction and new coach. We need a proven coach who knows how to take our club to next level. Shaun Wane has a 68% win record with Wigan; turned club into powerhouse. 2013, 2016, 2018 SL GF winner - this is the type of coach Saints needs.
#fantheflame
#redv
Truth be told, many of his teammates believed Griffin was not coaching them correctly and felt the team was constructed around giving Hunt the best chance to achieve rather than doing what is in the team’s best interest. 13/
It is telling that a site like The Roar is able to see the issues prevalent with Saints, but no major media outlet is willing to do some forensic analysis on McGregor, and apply pressure to the coach and management of our club.
#fantheflame
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It is time for him to step down, it is time for the board to be reviewed, and its time for the NRL to actually pay attention to the destruction of Saints.
Fans are walking away. Does
@Todd_Greenberg
and
@NRLcom
want that?
#fantheflame
#redv
#saveoursaints
The
@NRL_Dragons
finals hopes are all but gone. So is it time for Paul McGregor to be sacked?
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🧵For years we’ve asked for help with installing independent, business orientated and fan-sympathetic directors. We’ve been routinely ignored, discarded and discredited as ‘window lickers’ by the club.
1/
The Dragons should be one of the most powerful brands in Australian sport, but instead they’re a mess.
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More importantly, Hunt has played the victim in this entire situation despite actively playing a role in the debacle. His teammates also feel he’s been dishonest given the size of his new contract and the fact he is choosing to renege on it just because Griffin was hooked. 12/
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