@smithbarryc
Barry C Smith
4 years
Oh I don’t know but my guess is that the money is going to keep university staff in jobs so that they can put in even more work in converting their teaching to online versions while devising innovative ways to ensure good educational experiences for their students
@guardian
The Guardian
4 years
'Where is the money going?': students demand tuition fee refunds
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@hermeneuticist
Ismael K.G., FRSA
4 years
@smithbarryc I feel like that very specific concern (“where are the fees going?”) is a naïve take on a very real problem — that we won’t get the level of education or the experience that we signed up for (anyway, quite a bit of the money might be covering maintenance of empty real estate!).
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@smithbarryc
Barry C Smith
4 years
@IsmaelKherGar That’s true for some of it but that estate has to be there to return to when the pandemic ends otherwise there can be no real experience in the future. Main point is online teaching requires a lot more work, more thought, additional service. Harder for everyone
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@dmgrattons
Dawn Marie Gratton
4 years
@smithbarryc @doc_kristy Online learning can be highly effective. Tuition fees shd be used to ensure that, not refunded. For me it’s the rest of the uni experience & paying for accomm & campus facilities that don’t reflect value for money now. Hard too to replicate in-person idea exchanges online.
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@smithbarryc
Barry C Smith
4 years
@dmgrattons @doc_kristy Agree. None of us wanted this. New Gov restrictions imposed plus lack of decent test and trace provision has changed what many universities hoped to do to mitigate the blight on students’ eduction this year #wheresGavinWilliamson
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@alvanoe
Alva Noe
4 years
@smithbarryc Gotta keep the customers satisfied.
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@EBGBeee
Emma B
4 years
@smithbarryc Is it weird that I feel far sorrier for students who *aren't* going into their first year? I've heard / seen bugger all coverage of them, but surely they're in a far worse position mid-course than those who choose to start now?
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@matthewcobb
Matthew Cobb
4 years
@smithbarryc @pathogenomenick tbf the student’s comment was wrt an institution that has allegedly put back the beginning of term by *3 weeks*.
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@sjoh0050
Gordon Woods
4 years
@smithbarryc @chriscrossmary Not to mention fixed costs like estates that don't suddenly evaporate because the buildings aren't being used.
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@BeckyBriant
Dr Becky Briant
4 years
@smithbarryc @CatharineEdwa Online library resources are also costly and our librarians are super busy
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@smithbarryc
Barry C Smith
4 years
@miguelbconde @timcrane102 Let’s see. A *lot*of work is going into online versions. Is it the same? No. We’d rather be do face to face. Same for conferences & meetings. But it’s a pandemic. Univs intended blended with students present. Then restrictions by Gov & lack of test & trace changed it #pandemic
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@_JamieWhyte
Jamie Whyte
4 years
@smithbarryc On the signalling theory of what higher education is really for, the fees aren't paid for the quality of the experience anyway.
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@EriMOMalley
Eri Mountbatten-O'Malley (PhD, FHEA)
4 years
@smithbarryc That will not hold water for long.
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