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Tried to watch one of those “irl authors react to BSD” videos and had to click out 36 seconds in
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“Haha, Kunikida’s trauma is being a maths teacher” Okay.
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That's it, delete the whole fandom
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Stole this from Nahi because I can’t believe this and it made me seethe. You’re allowed to have this opinion of course, but the reasoning this person gave was really,,,ehh
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Mori and Abuse: Thread I’m making this because the BSD fandom has 2 modes for interpreting Mori and it’s either evil evil child abuser or spineless bastard and I HATE both of them.
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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Nothing’s new Nothing’s new Nothing’s new
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AND SHES SCARED OF DOGS AND LIGHTNING AND SHE DOESNT WANT TO KILL EVER AGAIN ☹️☹️☹️
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kyouka is so misrepresented by fandom like no shes not a pick me mary sue shes a severely traumatized 14 year old girl who likes bunnies and crepes
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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I hate when people say the Mersault arc was just “Soukoku had a plan” because it WASN’T just Soukoku’s plan. It was Aya’s plan and Ranpo’s plan and Nikolai’s plan and Mori's plan and Sigma’s plan and so many characters came together for Soukoku to be able to do what they did
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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Always an Angel never a God
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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Dazai: I would live for Chuuya, I would let the world break for Chuuya, I would save Chuuya from himself and everyone else, I would trust Chuuya to save me BSD fandom: Chuuya cares about Dazai more than Dazai cares about Chuuya
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Skk antis are so boring, not because they don’t ship skk, but because 90% of them refuse to acknowledge skk’s existing platonic relationship
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No, BSD is not fanfiction about dead people. Yes I understand that this is a joke, but I can still be a little BITCH about it because it's so WRONG. BSD Characters are not supposed to represent the authors.
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I’m sick to my stomach /pos
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WHY HIROTSU IS THE SON OF THE PREVIOUS BOSS OF THE PORT MAFIA (REAL, NOT CLICKBAIT): A THREAD Hirotsu is a rather unique member of the Port Mafia, he is the most senior that we have seen and one of the only ones to have served under the previous boss.
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Crack Theory: Hirotsu is the previous bosses son If this gets one like I’ll make a thread trying to bullshit my way into making this seem possible
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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I still don’t understand the people who will argue with their whole chest that Dazai and Chuuya hate each other. It’s basically impossible based on what we know about them and their relationship. You don’t have to ship them but like…they don’t hate each other??
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You ever listen to a song and go, how do I make this about BSD
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Idc if you don’t ship Soukoku, if you can’t even acknowledge their canonical, platonic relationship, you’re missing something
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
3 months
HE DID IT BEFORE ANGO AND ATSUSHI EVEN KNEW DAZAI RAHHHHH
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“atsushi and ango are the only ones who have hallucinated dazai” CHUUYA WAS THE ORIGINAL DAZAI HALLUCINATER GET IT RIGHT #bsd #bungosd #chuuyanakahara #Chuuya #atsushi #ango
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Soukoku was built within violence and war and yet they found a way to be soft with one another
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“You’re my dog and that’s one of my reasons to live, because I have to work you like a dog and that’s one of the reasons I’m staying alive, it’s because of you, you’re one of my reasons to stay alive, is this enough of a love confession yet”
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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What I find so fascinating about Chuuya is that although he’s characterised as hot-tempered, he’s almost never angry. The loud, fierce fury he shows? That’s not his real anger, just a cover for his other emotions. When Chuuya is angry it’s cold and quiet and reserved
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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@pysta_myn Dazai calls him Odasaku all the time, that’s 30% of his last name right there
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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I was just forcibly reminded that Mori always referred to Yosano with "-kun" when she was 11, even though most people would use "-chan" as an honorific for a young girl. "-Chan" is the honorific used to refer to young kids, and assigns a sense of "cuteness" to the individual.
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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Chuuya forgives everyone, even the people who have hurt him the most, he joined the mafia to protect the Sheep, he consoled Verlaine even after he'd killed his friends, he protected Shirase over and over again because in his head, the only one to blame is himself
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˖ ࣪✦ Spookster || Radioactive Alien Dazai˖ ࣪✦
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KENJI IS AN OVERCARING BOY WHO WILL DO /ANYTHING/ TO HELP AND BE HELPFUL FOR THE PEOPLE HE CARES FOR. KENJI ALWAYS DOES HIS BEST, AND STRIVES FOR BETTER TO UNHEALTHY AMOUNTS, BUT WITH THE HELP OF THE PEOPLE HE CARES ABOUT, HE'S LEARNING TO TAKE CARE OF HIMSELF, AND LEARNING +
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You’re actually fucking joking right? A 13 year old killed themselves because we’re too fucking immature to handle situations without telling people to die? Over a joke. Over a fucking joke. The joke was wrong but this kind of response is actually insane.
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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BSD isn’t disrespectful to the irl authors because it’s not meant to be a portrayal of the authors, it’s meant to be a portrayal of their works first and fore mostly. Typically if it references things from the authors lives it’s because those things were present in their works
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what bsd opinion will have everyone look at you like this?
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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@chuuyaslayy There’s a split second of confusion and then he’s like “YEAH WELL ILL KICK YOU IN THE NUTS THEN”
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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Oh look, it’s some more traumatic situations
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Lucy is actually amazing and I love her very much
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Mori is an abuser, yes, but the way he abuses characters is very atypical, and not at all what most people expect. His abuse is almost all psychological, the only character we can say for sure has been physically abused by him is Yosano, and we’re only shown one instance of that.
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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@transfemgin RIGHT??? It’s actually infuriating
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Kyoka got her ability because her mother sacrificed herself to save Kyoka's life. She's a skilled assassin because she was trained by Verlaine, the KING OF THE ASSASSINS HELLO?? For this point to be valid, Kyoka would have to have no weaknesses, which she /does/ have
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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I believe that Verlaine was created as an adult so when he sees Chuuya as a child the way he never got to be, every part of him wants to keep Chuuya like that as long as possible
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
3 months
I’ve had this conversation too many times. BSD is a character-driven story, not a plot-driven story. The plot seems murky and weird because the focus isn’t on the plot, it’s on the characters that drive it. Again, not bad writing.
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"A Mary Sue is a character archetype in fiction, usually a young woman, who is often portrayed as inexplicably competent across all domains, gifted with unique talents or powers, liked or respected by most other characters, unrealistically free of weaknesses, extremely attractive
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Oh Lord
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Rimlaine is actually a gen of Soukoku and I will argue that point forever
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To me it shows both that Mori respected Yosano, in a way, but also that he expected /more/ of her. She wasn't allowed to be a little girl, she was a doctor and a tool and she was 11 years old.
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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@fizzyyzoda HE WROTE BOOKS, THAT'S WHY HE'S IN THIS GODFORSAKEN SHOW IN THE FIRST PLACEEE
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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To add onto this, does Palestine NOT have the right to defend themselves? They’ve been subjected to 75 years of horror, and yet every time they fight back against their oppressors they’re labelled as the instigators
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"isreal has a right to protect itself" against babies? innocent civilians? yeah fucking right. #CeasefireNOW
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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For simplicity, I’ll be referring to his abuse of Dazai, Chuuya, Koyo and Yosano, but I believe it could be said that Kyuusaku and potentially the Akutagawa’s have suffered because of him.
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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Simply put, Mori is a military man. He does anything and everything to achieve the “optimal solution”, he has a plan and if he has to get his hands dirty to reach his goal, he will. Emotions and attachments go out the window for him, most of the time at least, because he would
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Not only is Demon Snow a reminder of what happened to her parents, but she is unable to control Demon Snow by herself for quite some time. She's not miraculously gifted, she's a traumatised little girl.
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sacrifice anything, and anyone, to achieve his goal. Most of the time at least. That’s why he used Yosano, because what’s the life of one girl to the safety of his nation? That’s why he manufactured Oda’s and his orphans deaths, because the prize outweighed the cost.
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"She's literally the perfect assassin...we didn't even see her train or anything" Stfu and read Stormbringer
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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I don’t think this is the right wording honestly. Just because a character doesn’t show up often in the plot doesn’t mean they’re portrayed badly, and it also doesn’t equal bad writing. Just say you’re disappointed that Lucy isn’t included more?
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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Just like so many of the characters, the fandom forgets that when Mori met Dazai, he was a child. He was a broken child who needed a guiding hand and the hand he got was Mori’s. Morí crafted the Dazai that we see, shaped the way that he thinks, THAT was his abuse.
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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To understand why Mori has abused certain characters, we must understand a bit about him as a person. This is potentially why Mori’s actions are so wildly skewed by the fandom, because no one wants to observe him too closely (but that’s a whole other thread)
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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I’ll start by referring to Mori’s abuse of Dazai, because he’s a bit of a special case and also the one that the fandom overall gets the most wrong. Mori’s abuse of Dazai is usually twisted to be sexual or physical, when there is absolutely no evidence of that,
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Girl no it does not
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"She has no flaws" UM?? Atsushi himself criticises how quick she is to jump to violence. She rarely attempts to solve issues without bloodshed. That is a key point. Not only that, she is pessimistic and self-sacrificing. She has flaws, you mouldy dishrag.
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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@bpdnakahara Hoshikawa clearly didn’t think Fifteen was gay enough
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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This is a point I can semi-get on board with, I would like to see more attention given to the female cast within BSD. But to say that the focus is solely given to male characters is just wrong.
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Chuuya with scars and moles and freckles and blemishes and messy hair and weird clothes and everything that makes him so painfully human
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Mori is like a spider, ensnaring people in his web with carefully constructed lies and appearances, his abuse is not physical or sexual, it’s a psychological coercion, careful at times and brutal at others, his abuse is a targeted attack
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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This is such a stupid point. She is described as "cute" a few sporadic times, and the maid dress scene is not sexual in any regard, it's just a joke because of the harm she's caused so far
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Then when discussing his plan with Rimbaud, he brings up a theory taught to him by Mori. 15!Dazai is such a little parrot, it’s all “Mori says, Mori says, Mori says”, just word-vomiting all the thoughts Mori puts in his head, there is a CLEAR influence here.
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Save me Rimbaud w religious symbolism, save me
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This exchange is a perfect example of that conditioning, instead of giving Dazai information directly, Mori gets Dazai to deduce his answers using information he already has, something we see Dazai does very often in the current plot.
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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I will give the disclaimer that I am a massive fan of Asagiri’s writing in BSD, particularly the handling of characters, and so my opinion is biased. Also this person never said you can’t enjoy BSD, but simply that they think the writing isn’t good.
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"Her strength is acknowledged by Akutagawa" And????? She's strong, are girls not allowed to be acknowledged for their strength anymore? This doesn't make her a Mary Sue, in fact it's an important turning point for Akutagawa's character.
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Abuse. Just like Mori, Dazai always has reasons for what he does, and his reason for what he did to Akutagawa was tailored to Akutagawa and his ability, therefor not something that Mori would have done to Dazai. Not to excuse Dazai’s abuse of Akutagawa, of course,
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People like to bring up Dazai’s abuse of Akutagawa, or that one throwaway line from The Day I Picked Up Dazai as evidence, but neither of those hold up in my opinion. Firstly, just because Dazai’s abuse of Akutagawa was partly physical, doesn’t mean he himself underwent physical
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But the fact of the matter is that Dazai’s abuse was a test of Akutagawa, and a punishment because Akutagawa didn’t adhere to Dazai’s standards. This abuse is the result of Mori’s own abuse, yes, but it’s not as straightforward as “Mori hit Dazai, ergo Dazai hit Akutagawa”
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IM NOT OKAY IM ACTUALLY SOBBING WHAT THE FUCK
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I’m going to throw up and burst into tears I love her I love her I love her I’m so serious
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Mori is logical and reserved, so we must observe all his actions with the lens that he has a reason for what he does, because he (almost) always has a reason
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Mori is a doctor, there are multiple reasons for him to be giving Dazai needles. And the fact that Mori says it’s not going to hurt just sounds like the typical “doctor giving a kid a shot” exchange. Dazai hates pain, so obviously Mori would lie and say that it isn’t going to
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innately virtuous, and/or generally lacking meaningful character flaws. Usually female and almost always the main character, a Mary Sue is often an author's idealized self-insertion, and may serve as a form of wish fulfillment."
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And with that, Chuuya is loyal to the mafia and Mori has Soukoku. Never mind that Mori was the brains behind Dazai’s plan that got Chuuya into the mafia in the first place, by getting Dazai to do his dirty work, Mori gets to appear to Chuuya with a halo and wings
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Firstly, that stab did basically nothing, Koyo is not incapacitated from it at all. Secondly, it wasn't "as if it were nothing", she used Koyo's twisted mindset to make herself seem like she wasn't a threat. Kyoka is /smart/.
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Every person is his tool, and he likes his blades sharp.
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Just like Mori, Dazai uses the Sheep against Chuuya. Mori shows Dazai how to control people, how to make them listen and how to make them obey. The reason Dazai treats people like pawns, the reason he KNOWS how to manipulate people is because Mori taught him.
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Obligatory ‘here’s how to find stuff’ post for struggling BSD fans Anime (there's like a million sites you can use, this is just the one I use) : Manga (again, a million, this is just one):
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What.
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And here-in lies the actual abuse that Dazai went through, not being hit or shamed or any of that, but emotional coercion, a slow cultivation of the parts of Dazai that Mori saw as useful, and a creation of the mindset we see Dazai use
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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This is a touchy point, but I will say that Naomi’s character isn’t at all built on fan-service. In fact if we look at her compared to other characters who are often used for fan-service, her design in no way sexualises her, in direct contrast to the typical “schoolgirl” trope
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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What are you talking about. The relationships between characters are one of the main features of BSD, I don’t know what series you’ve been reading but if no other bonds in BSD interest you, that’s a you problem.
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hurt. Mori cares for Dazai’s well-being, which is what makes Dazai a bit of an outlier, as Mori shows care for him before he’s found a reason to justify that care. This is evidenced by their exchange in the beginning of Dazai, Chuuya: Fifteen, which is very important
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The line from TDIPUD is also poor evidence, as all it is is Oda telling Dazai that what he’s doing won’t hurt and Dazai responding that Mori says the same about the needles he gives him. The fact that this is taken as abuse is really weird to me, why is that the assumption here?
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Anyway if anyone in BSD is a Mary Sue, it's Odasaku. Not to say he's a bad character tho, I love him 🙏🙏 But if Asagiri's projecting on anyone?? It's not Kyoka lmao
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Just because you don't like her doesn't mean she's a bad character. She has strengths and weaknesses and depth the same as any other BSD character, even if you ignore them.
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Chuuya as well is a special case. Like Mori, he is a leader, and that is a quality Mori admires in him. In turn, Chuuya looks up to Mori, sees him as an inspiration for what it means to be a leader. This is another example of Mori’s manipulative abuse.
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OH THANK FUCKING FUCK LAI IS ALIVE I DONT KNOW ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT BUT THEYRE ALIVE
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There are many well written and complex female characters that are given the spotlight, we spent entire arcs following Kyoka’s journey into the light, chapters are often dedicated to female characters..
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This is most prominent with how Mori plants ideas into Dazai’s head. This is referenced in Chapter one of Fifteen as well, establishing that Mori has taken somewhat of an instructor role to Dazai, but that’s something Dazai rebels against.
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Mori makes sure that Dazai is in the room as he baits Chuuya, uses the weakness of the Sheep against him, and then breaks down EXACTLY what has happened for Dazai. “Just some food for thought” my ass
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But the main example of this conditioning comes in the form of Dazai’s plan to use the Sheep against Chuuya, a plan that comes DIRECTLY from Mori
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Again, are you reading this fucking series or not?? Sorry I’m getting mad because this feels like the feedback I get from lazy professors. The guild had a whole conversation amongst themselves about where they were going, did you just skip that chapter???
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Erm.
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for her to escape, but enough that she can move. And having been chained up for so long, that feels like freedom. Koyo is loyal to Mori because he’s better than the alternative, because if she can’t be free, at least she can move.
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as it gives us an insight into Mori’s perspective during that time, where he panics because he hasn’t achieved the “optimal solution” by keeping Dazai alive, but then justifies that action by deciding Dazai is too good an asset to throw away.
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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Mori works through coercion and manipulation, he shapes the way people think of him carefully, moulding his appearance in the eyes of others. To Dazai he’s just an old man that Dazai has under his thumb, who tries and fails to manipulate him. But that’s not the truth.
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
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Anyway half of these points are unfounded because BSD explains them away and the others are just personal taste, and I’m grumpy and autistic
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
5 months
Mori has done the same with Koyo. She’s loyal to him, but clearly does not LIKE him, so where does that loyalty come from? It is because he has freed her. Koyo suffered under the rule of the Old Boss, she had no freedom, the man who cared for her was executed, she was
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
4 months
What is with the BSD fandom and just straight up lying, like the amount of times some rumor or made up fact has been passed around as if it’s true is crazy to me
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
5 months
...what is the point here? That Kyoka should be a guy because the author she's based on is a guy? Y'know Koyo was also based on a male author?? Plus this massively understates the true nature of Koyo and Kyoka's relationship. Koyo isn't just being a protective motherly character,
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
5 months
FYM???? Akutagawa is not obsessed with her, he is responsible for her as a member of the Port Mafia. It becomes personal for him because he sees himself in her. Y'all don't deserve BSD women </3
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
4 months
I feel physically ill remembering that Teruko killed her captain, her leader, the man she trusted through everything. We have no idea how far back they go, what if they met in the army? What if she watched him change through the war?
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
5 months
To Chuuya, Mori makes himself out to be a saviour, someone who will teach him how to be better, how to protect the people he thinks he has failed. Mori takes Chuuya at his weakest point and gives him a new chance
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Tuesday||The Time Has Come
4 months
@Chuyaspartner DAZAI WHO NEVER DOUBTED CHUUYA WAS HUMAN??? DAZAI WHO GAVE CHUUYA A CHOICE TO KEEP PROOF OF HIS HUMANITY???? DAZAI WHO WOULD PUT THE WORLD AT RISK SO CHUUYA COULD KNOW HE WAS HUMAN????? THAT DAZAI?????????
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