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@IUPUI Sociologist studying religion, culture, politics, disability | Books on Christian Nationalism | bylines Time, WaPo, NBC

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Andrew Whitehead - American Idols Podcast
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NOW AVAILABLE. We can't shy away from the challenges we face and we must name them. Even so, I am resolute in my hope--that we can remake American Christianity into a faith that engages with the world around it making space for all to flourish. Onward, together!
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I don't have PhD students going on the market, but if I did, here's some of what I would tell them after serving on a dozen search committees, reviewing hundreds of applications, and sitting thru dozens and dozens of job talks, breakfasts during the interview...
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A firearms training presentation for the Louisville Police Department ended with this slide. It suggests police officers see themselves as agents of God's wrath. Such misuse of Christian scriptures should worry every citizen. This is Christian nationalism in action.
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New study in American Economic Review shows shift of southern whites from Democratic Party to Republican Party was entirely due to racial views, not economic policy attitudes. Paging @KevinMKruse .
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I went to Princeton. No handouts, by the way. I earned my spot. Just like my father and his father before him. is perhaps my fav quote from The Good Place
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What I send to my co-author. What my co-author sends back.
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It is important that American Christians continually remind themselves that Jesus has no vested interest in the greatness or survival of the United States as a nation. The Kingdom of God needs no "global superpower" nation-state.
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"Not religious at all" is poised to overtake "moderately religious" as the most prevalent description of how religious Americans consider themselves to be. "Very religious" remains the least prevalent and continues to decline. Quite the shift from just 13 years ago.
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I really like when Rachel Held Evans wrote that what makes the Gospel offensive isn't who it keeps out, but who it lets in.
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A Christian missions agency but where they only send people to other nations to sit, learn, and gain a sense of the rhythms of faith from the Christians there and then bring what they learn back to help disciple American Christians.
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What is Christian nationalism? Check out this handy one-pager.
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Christian nationalism is not interested in a government for the people, by the people, but rather for particular people, by particular people.
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Real talk: sometimes (as a Christian) I've found it poses less risk to converse with atheist or agnostic friends when experiencing deep pain or suffering than it is with some fellow Christians. Why?
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My latest @RNS After years of examining Christian nationalism as a social scientist, Iโ€™m convinced the greatest threat to Christianity in the United States is not outside forces. Instead, it is white Christian nationalism.
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I love when Rachel Held Evans asked us to imagine a church where everyone is safe and no one is comfortable.
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A reminder on this July 4th.
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Some days parenting two kids with severe intellectual disabilities means watching your hopes and dreams be slowly suffocated right in front of you. This is followed by a deep, deep sense of shame for feeling sad or a sense of loss regarding said hopes and dreams.
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A recent national poll found that a majority of Republicans favor declaring the United States a Christian nation despite acknowledging such a move would be unconstitutional. I wrote about why that is a problem. @TIME
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If there was one question I could get all American Christians to really wrestle with, it's this: Why did those who embraced violence as they attacked the Capitol on 1/6 feel comfortable enough to also display Christian symbols, pray Christian prayers, & sing Christian songs?
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Why is vigilante murder permitted by a Christian nation?
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I don't believe everything happens for a reason. I do believe everything that happens *matters*. And there is a world of difference between those two.
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3 years
When a Christian nationalist talks about "defending the family" they mean *white* families. One common refrain w/in Christian nationalist discourse is that the downfall of the US will coincide with the downfall of "the family."
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She walked up to me after I presented on Christian nationalism & the threat to American Christianity. Quietly, but with the weight of her entire world she said, "We just want our kids to live. To be seen as our children. We just want them to grow up."
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One of the central idols of Christian nationalism is violence. When groups are told to fear losing privileged access to power, violence is a natural result.
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Right Wing Watch
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Mike Huckabee warns that if Trump's legal problems prevent him from winning in 2024, "it is going to be the last American election that will be decided by ballots rather than bullets."
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A day in the life of parenting a 15-yr-old boy w/ severe intellectual disabilities: -Bathe him -Feed him -Block his angry attacks at being denied a want -Feed him -Cut his hair -Bathe him -Feed him It's 12:15 pm.
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Cover Letter: Make it 1.5 pages. No more than 2. Have others read it, ESPECIALLY someone (at least 1 person) who is not a social scientist. If they think parts of it are boring, they're right. Cut the jargon. No typos. No crazy-long paragraphs. Strong lead sentences.
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What an anemic gospel. This is slaveholder religion. Just imagine sharing this gospel with someone crushed by slavery, and then telling them God cares nothing for their physical freedom.
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Joel Berry
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The gospel is good news to the oppressed. But that good news doesn't offer material wealth, cultural power, physical healing, or political liberation. It offers salvation from sin for our eternal soul. A very different gospel from the materialistic one you preach.
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Christian nationalism is strongly associated with greater fear of a day when "whites are no longer the majority" in the US. Replacement theory is not fringe. Opposing it requires reckoning with the historical (and ongoing) influence of Christian nationalism.
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But now I realize I do have words. We can do something with our broken hearts. So if you want to know why it is important to speak out on White Christian nationalism, racial injustice, violence, and fear? She's why. This precious mother and her precious children.
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Where white women are, at the same time, both too weak (to lead) and too powerful (threatening the church).
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Just accidentally hit reply all on a department email listserv and I'm devastated. Please keep me and family in your thoughts and prayers during this difficult time. I plan to step away for a while in order to work on becoming the person I truly believe myself to be.
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Some days I wish more could see all the goes into parenting 2 kids with severe intellectual disabilities. Where does that fit on the CV? In the annual review? In our relationships? I'm not sure anything defines my existence more than this. And it is essentially invisible.
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Barth with the ๐Ÿ”ฅ.
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I am excited to share that I have a contract for my next book: American Idolatry: Why Christians Must Confront Christian Nationalism (Brazos Press, 2023) @BrazosPress @KatelynBeaty
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Lots going sideways in our world, but today, my 2 boys w/ various disabilities were approved for Medicaid in Indiana after 25 months of paperwork and phone calls and 2 steps forward and 1 step back. So it's a good day. We're celebrating!
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Andrew Whitehead - American Idols Podcast
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This weekend I considered--for the first time ever--that our family may *never* be able to consistently attend church due to the challenges we face. Just like eating out. Or going the store. That was hard.
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Christian nationalism is a threat to our democracy. Check it out. โฌ‡๏ธ
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Meet the Press
2 years
WATCH: Christian nationalism is all about power, not democracy, says @andrewwhitehead . "This idea of a country for the people by the people โ€” it's really a country for a particular people by a particular people."
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New national poll shows a majority of Republicans favor declaring the U.S. a Christian nation, DESPITE a majority of them understanding that doing so would be unconstitutional. So when we say CN threatens democracy, this is what we mean.
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What is white Christian nationalism? White Christian nationalism (WCN) is a cultural framework that idealizes and advocates for a fusion of Christianity* with American civic life. It combines a number of different elements.
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Cover Letter cont: Use it to highlight your accomplishments, point us twd other parts of your packet. Here's the key: CONTROL THE NARRATIVE. You should tell us exactly why you're awesome/perfect f/ this position and how literally everything you've done supports that fact.
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Final thoughts: Take care of yourself. It is a stressful time. But exciting. Stay connected w/ your partner/spouse or close friends. Don't neglect your hobbies or stress-relieving activities. Treat yourself once & awhile! And if you need encouragement, reach out!
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The LMPD, you might remember, used to carry out no-knock warrants which cost Breonna Taylor her life. No-knock warrants are now outlawed.
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For those interested: check out our latest study showing Christian nationalism played a pivotal role in Trump support in 2016. Free to read right now too!
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White-washing the history of Christianity and its relationship with chattel slavery in the Americas, and I mean white-washing quite literally, does no one any favors. Slavers enslaved *because* of their Christian faith, drawing on the Bible for support.
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Today is a good day to remember: Christianity is the faith and America is the place slavery came to die
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Excellent read from one of the very first to engage with Christian nationalism in the US. @michelleinbklyn Placing some of the new @PRRIpoll findings in context, w/ @robertpjones providing insight.
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Americans who strongly embrace the idea that the US is a "Christian nation" are much more likely to believe that "Police treat blacks the same as whites" and that "Police officers shoot blacks more often b/c they are more violent than whites."
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The differences in the faces of the kids at the Minnesota governor's signing vs. the Arkansas governor's signing are really something to behold.
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Christians harm their neighbors when they embrace the idols of power, fear, and violence.
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1) I've found there's less of a chance of being bright-sided. What's bright-sided? It's the "often toxically positive and well-meaning attempt to offer comfort, it's the phenomena where someone insists that, no matter your situation, you look for some kind of positive."
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*Every* expression of Christianity brings with it an assortment of cultural assumptions. We can't just claim, "mine's biblical, deal with it." Even more, it's impossible to then try and organize a very large, diverse country according to that one, particular expression.
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That โ€œparticularโ€ expression of Christianity is biblical Christianity. I can disagree with true brothers and sisters on many debatable matters like baptism or the end times. But someone who is teaching rebellion against Scripture is simply a wolf (see Jude for one). These arenโ€™t
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Cover Letter cont: Do not, and I can't stress this strongly enough, DO NOT assume those reading your letter will automatically 1) know WHY what you've done is great and 2) why you'd be perfect f/ the job/position.
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Really excited to finally share the cover of my next book w/ @BrazosPress ! It will help readers identify what Christian nationalism is & provide examples of how Christians can live out the faith w/o resorting to CN. Pre-order f/ 30% off & FREE shipping:
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What is Christian nationalism?
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Christian nationalism is a threat to democracy. Pass it on.
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This just reminds me of the @KevinMKruse tradition of quoting All The President's Men regarding those in (or hoping to join) the Trump administration: "The truth is, these aren't very bright guys, and things got out of hand." ๐Ÿ˜‚
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As I suspected, the position of โ€œChief of Anti-Terrorism and National Secuirity,โ€ which John Ratcliffeโ€™s bio claims he was โ€œappointed to by President George W. Bushโ€ โ€” and which is getting cited to pad out his paltry intel resume โ€” doesnโ€™t actually exist.
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I've come to see this propensity to "bright side" as likely due to American Christianity being marked by a kind of triumphalism, of always โ€œwinning.โ€ This leaves little space for lament or suffering.
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This is exactly right. Franklin Graham and others create the fertile ground for extremism to take root and flourish. Legitimating the possibility of violence in the will of the Christian God.
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Peter Manseau
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This remains one of the most emblematic messages shared on 1/6/21: It simultaneously spreads political disinformation and traffics in apocalyptic terms. Some responsible for lending phony righteousness to the Capitol attack won't be named in the #January6thHearings but should be.
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"Why can't they see our Black boys and girls as children?" "We just want them to be able to grow up."
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For the 1st time in the history of the General Social Survey, more Americans report "never" attending religious services (29.8%) than those who attend "nearly every week or more" (26.8%). Play w/ the 2018 GSS (and all other years) here:
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"Why can't they see our Black boys and girls as children? Our children?" she asked me. "They talked about that young man who took the gun to the George Floyd protests and killed those 2 people, they saw him as a child."
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Parenting kids with intellectual disabilities is to be looked at constantly but rarely seen.
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Toxic positivity definitely exists in the Christian church and it leaves little space for those marginalized in various ways or who are experiencing pain and suffering.
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This is exactly it. Trump's personal faith really doesn't matter and he knows it. Just promise power and access and Americans who embrace Christian nationalism will be more than ready to fall in line.
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Kevin M. Kruse
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Not a single word about his own faith.
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Latest w/ @profsamperry at @TIME The Christian Nationalism of Speaker Mike Johnson "Speaker Johnson provides a near-perfect example for each element" of Christian nationalism.
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BREAKING A do-it-yourself Christian nationalism test that works f/ a majority of US congregations. Guaranteed to show the extent to which CN permeates your place of worship. Step 1: Move the US flag out of your sanctuary. Step 2: Wait f/ reactions. Now you know.
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Job Talk: Start creating your job talk now. Literally today. Have it completed by the end of July, practice it daily all thru August. Have that thing memorized. Know it inside and out. Anticipate questions, then prepare. Practice in front of colleagues.
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Just so we're clear, I (and I'm assuming pretty much everyone else in the documentary) said yes and then recorded our portions BEFORE Rob Reiner came on as a producer. So this weird narrative that he is playing some nefarious role that influenced us all is just that--weird.
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I had a great time participating in this documentary and was able to screen it a couple months ago. It is awesome! And pretty cool that @robreiner produced it! Trying to figure out where to put our close and personal partnership on my CV....
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I am EXTREMELY excited to announce an online mini-conference taking place the afternoon of August 18th!!! White Christian Nationalism in the United States Register for 1 or both sessions here:
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Does Christian nationalism make Americans less Christ-like? Consider some evidence: Americans who embrace Christian nationalism are *more likely* to say political violence is sometimes necessary in order to "save our country." ( @PRRIpoll /Brookings, 2023)
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Job Talk: Use some sort of visuals, and MAKE SURE THEY ARE SPOTLESS & PERFECT. Consistent headings, font size, use of figures/graphs, pictures. Nothing is more annoying than inconsistency in visuals. No long paragraphs of text! No huge tables filled w/ coefficients!
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I'll never forget it. I had no words. Only a broken heart.
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Personally, instead of trying to see God as "in control" of all this, I try to remind myself that God is *present* with me in the midst of the pain. This can be hard, too. But it keeps me from attributing to God that which should not be.
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General interview thoughts: So much stuff you have little control over. It's amazing anyone gets hired, ever. So maximize your efforts on the stuff you CAN control! Then be assured you did your best and you're a great person. Not getting a job does NOT make you less than.
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The Holy Trinity of American Christianity: Guns, Violence, and Jesus.
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I had a great time participating in this documentary and was able to screen it a couple months ago. It is awesome! And pretty cool that @robreiner produced it! Trying to figure out where to put our close and personal partnership on my CV....
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Bibles in schools? Big question then becomes: "Which Bible?" @KevinMKruse 's Ch. 6 in One Nation Under God provides a compelling history of the fights to answer that question thru the middle of the 20th century, & how those fights brought us the rise of the Religious Right.
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Donald J. Trump
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Numerous states introducing Bible Literacy classes, giving students the option of studying the Bible. Starting to make a turn back? Great!
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Advanced reading copy arrived yesterday!
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Cover Letter cont: Understand these are busy people who don't specialize in your sub-field. They are balancing this committee w/ trying to publish, teach, serve on other committees, care f/ their spouse, take their kids to school and practice, and plan dinner that night.
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1 on 1 interviews: Prepare ahead of time. Learn names & faces from the website. Learn areas of study, perhaps even peruse a recent article. Have questions ready for them. People love to talk about their own work. So let them! Be genuinely interested (or at least fake it).
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This back-and-forth *perfectly* illustrates how the "Christian" of Christian nationalism is a very particular expression of Christianity that brings with it a host of cultural assumptions which are mostly invisible to those embracing it. It's just, "Christianity."
@jackmjenkins
Jack Jenkins
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Are you suggesting the millions of Christians who back LGBTQ rights efforts, which includes institutional support from entire denominations, areโ€ฆpagans? I imagine that claim might be contested by those Christians, not to mention, you know, actual self-IDing pagans.
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Andrew Whitehead - American Idols Podcast
4 years
We often get asked the difference between Christian nationalism and Christianity in the public sphere. Here's an example.
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Scott Coley
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So refreshing to hear the Bible mentioned in a speech that made no reference to serving the interests of Christians.
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Andrew Whitehead - American Idols Podcast
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Bit of personal news: Excited to share that this summer I will be joining the sociology department @IUPUI & the Center f/ the Study of Religion & American Culture ( @csraac )! I'm thrilled (& a bit nervous TBH) to work w/ such a strong interdisciplinary group studying religion.
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Andrew Whitehead - American Idols Podcast
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When confronting Christian nationalism we ARE NOT saying: Christians shouldn't be involved in politics. We ARE saying: Christians shouldn't seek *supremacy* in politics.
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Andrew Whitehead - American Idols Podcast
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And it seems as though there is a fear that acknowledging suffering is an affront to God. That weโ€™re always and only called to โ€œjoyโ€ and โ€œpeaceโ€ and if we share we arenโ€™t currently experiencing these (or are having trouble practicing either) weโ€™re somehow questioning God.
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Andrew Whitehead - American Idols Podcast
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***New Study Alert*** Walker & @abigailvegter find Christian Nationalism & biblical literalism both amplify conspiratorial thinking--in combination they are *particularly* powerful. Very real implications f/ QAnon, vaccine hesitancy, etc. @jssrjournal
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Cover Letter cont: The easier you make it for them, the better. Again, control the narrative. Tell them the story of you and why you and your work are going to 1) make the dept look good and 2) cause them little/no issues from date of hire to promotion.
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Y'all. I think I finished this book.
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Andrew Whitehead - American Idols Podcast
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So this happened and @socofthesacred and I are so grateful. Our book won the 2021 Distinguished Book Award for @SSSReligion !
@RiceRPLP
Religion and Public Life Program @ Rice University
3 years
Andrew Whitehead and Samuel Perry win SSSR book award for Taking America back for God. Congratulations! Check out the book!
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Andrew Whitehead - American Idols Podcast
9 months
Tomorrow is the big day! American Idolatry *officially* releases into the world! I poured a lot into this book & I am proud of it. I hope it finds its way into the hearts & minds of those who could use it. (1/2)
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Andrew Whitehead - American Idols Podcast
1 year
It's in those moments of another's pain & suffering Christians can usually do the most good by shelving our own deep theological insights--or trying to convert those in pain to our particular viewpoint--and just hurt with them. Validate their pain & you validate their humanity.
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Andrew Whitehead - American Idols Podcast
5 years
Cover Letter cont: Example: Give context f/ why the journals you've published in are incredible (everyone knows ASR, very few publish in it - help me understand why your sub-field's journal is great).
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Andrew Whitehead - American Idols Podcast
5 years
General interview thoughts: What matters now is fit & how well you answer the questions, "Do I want to see you consistently for the next 5-10 years?" "Will you pull your research/teaching/service weight around here?" "Can I trust you not to make this department a living hell?"
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Andrew Whitehead - American Idols Podcast
1 year
In the moment it just minimizes a person's real pain and suffering. Itโ€™s a form of bright siding, that โ€œno matter what youโ€™re feeling through this experience, you should implicitly acknowledge there must be a reason behind it.โ€
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Andrew Whitehead - American Idols Podcast
11 months
A reminder on this #July4th .
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Andrew Whitehead - American Idols Podcast
2 years
I care very little about what this crew thinks of me, my work, or my faith. If you listen to them & write me off w/out engaging w/ me or my work in any way, then be well. I'm moving & would love to walk w/ anyone willing. Leave them be. Merely defending their mud pies.
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Denny Burk
2 years
@kkdumez I havenโ€™t read Perry, Whitehead, or Cook. But otherwise, I do believe the other works in question contain false teaching. The kind of thing that pastors ought to warn their congregations about.
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Andrew Whitehead - American Idols Podcast
3 years
I really like when Rachel Held Evans wrote that our interpretations of the Bible are only as inerrant as we are, which should give us pause. (from Faith Unraveled)
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