@michael_merrick
Michael Merrick
5 months
@CGVowles read the article
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@michael_merrick
Michael Merrick
5 months
This really is a genuine scandal
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@JCalvertST
Jonathan Calvert
5 months
Today a @sundaytimes Insight team undercover investigation with @arbuthnott reveals the backdoor routes used by Britain’s cash-strapped universities to bring in high fee-paying overseas students on lower grades. Read about it here:
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@CGVowles
Christopher Vowles
5 months
@michael_merrick The table compares apples and pineapples: undergraduate degree entry is not the same as foundation degree entry. UK students are also admitted to foundation degrees every year (mainly through clearing) with grades significantly below those required for a standard bachelors degree
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@Mr_KeithTaylor
Keith Taylor
5 months
@michael_merrick @CGVowles Hey, Michael. If you want to make a point about the contents of a paywalled article you need to make it in the tweet. Happy to help.
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@michael_merrick
Michael Merrick
5 months
@Mr_KeithTaylor @CGVowles Hey Keith, if you want to proactively tweet someone to make a corrective point about an article you haven't read, don't. Happy to help.
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@RJDReid
Jim
5 months
@michael_merrick @CGVowles I have. The table you show is for the international foundation year, not international year one.
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@michael_merrick
Michael Merrick
5 months
@RJDReid @CGVowles I know, it says so at the top of the table.
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@SRDorman
SRD 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇨🇦
5 months
@michael_merrick @CGVowles I’ve read the article. Vowles’ point remains entirely legit. Read the tweet.
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@ScottEmery92
Cllr Scott Emery
5 months
@michael_merrick @CGVowles Don't say this when it's paywalled
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@AstroMikeMerri
Michael Merrifield
5 months
@michael_merrick @CGVowles I did. Buried in it, you will find the explanation as to why universities are so competitively recruiting international students.
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@lizzle3000
Lizzle
5 months
@michael_merrick @CGVowles The article thinks the sky is purple and is angry about it. It’s wildly misleading
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@katherineschof8
Dr Katherine Schofield 🇬🇧🇦🇺
5 months
@michael_merrick @CGVowles We have. The table is comparing entry requirements direct to the degree — which are identical for home and overseas studebts — and entry requirements for a pre-degree foundation year. There are foundation years for home students too. Stop being disingenuous.
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@dermin8r
Dermot 🦒
5 months
@michael_merrick @CGVowles I did. My understanding: the pathway course referred to is a foundation year basically equivalent to a BTEC. This is what brings you up from GCSE level to qualify for the undergraduate course. UK students can also do a foundation year based on GCSE grades
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@Ali4BetterDays
Alice ✨
5 months
@michael_merrick @CGVowles Just say you don’t under that the same route exists for UK students to do a foundation year with lower grades too and that you’re not good with analytical data 101 of comparing apples with apples.
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@DizzyJB
Jason Brautigam
5 months
@michael_merrick @CGVowles Suggest you do some more research…
@robfordmancs
Rob Ford
5 months
Firstly, as many are pointing out, foundation courses are not same thing as standard courses. This is not an apples for apples comparison. Secondly, if anyone imagines cutting overseas student intakes wld free up spaces for UK students, they don't understand uni finances at all
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@sbarlster
sbarlster 💙
5 months
@michael_merrick @CGVowles Can’t get to it. 😢🤣🤣🤣
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@AstroMikeMerri
Michael Merrifield
5 months
@michael_merrick @CGVowles Or you could just read something by someone who knows what they are talking about (which isn’t behind a paywall).
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@TheoKL
TheoKuechel
5 months
@michael_merrick @CGVowles Suggest you read this one (from someone who works in the sector)
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@JackHenL
Jack Lindon
5 months
@michael_merrick @CGVowles Absolutely nothing in the article disagrees with what @CGVowles said. This article and the table is ridiculous. Yes, foundation courses have lower entry requirements than standard bachelors degrees. They're meant to that's the entire point of them.
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@WryCritic
Natalia Jagielska
5 months
@michael_merrick @CGVowles Like universities you're shouting about, it is paywalled.
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