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Dr. Cat Hicks

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Social scientist. Founder of the Developer Success Lab. Psychologist for Software Teams. Defender of the mismeasured. 🦄 🏳️‍🌈

San Diego, California

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Joined May 2013

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@grimalkina

Dr. Cat Hicks

3 months

I have 🌟 a new preprint 🌟 to share!! "Psychological Affordances Can Provide a Missing Explanatory Layer for Why Interventions to Improve Developer Experience Take Hold or Fail" You can download it free and open access here:

Psychological Affordances Can Provide a Missing Explanatory Layer for Why Interventions to Improve...

This review proposes that the psychological affordances around developers provide a "missing layer" to developer experience. Several examples are used to illustrate a starting place for using...

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2 years

What if we just took the rest of the year off after Thankgiving tho

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2 years

If you have a robust skincare routine you have demonstrated aptitude in many core skills of data science. I will not be taking criticism of this idea. Girls who have developed personalized skincare routines know more about multivariate causal inference than many engineers.

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4 years

Funny how hustle porn rears up so aggressively during the literal one week a year that the US actually reliably treats as a holiday? FUNNY! Anyway here are some favorite things about rest:

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Dr. Cat Hicks

1 year

I hate reading stuff like "one need not wait for CDC to wear a mask..." Dude you know who waits for the CDC? Every workplace. Every event.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

3 years

I propose that the next LGBT Christmas movie is about the power of found family. Just a house full of super queer folks having a great holiday season together. Nobody is struggling through some kind of awful coming out. There are amazing decorations

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Dr. Cat Hicks

3 years

I am the wife of a professor or as it's otherwise known, a person who yells "IT'S A JOB SO TREAT IT LIKE ONE" across the house on Sundays

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4 years

I am an *actual* social scientist who has done work on resilience and achievement as opposed to a neuroscientist speculating in flippant simplicity and I have lived through long-term dramatic disruption and I am marrying a neuroscientist so I can say, with full force: BAD TAKE

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Here's one good thing about this disastrous year: it's strengthening our brains. "If everybody had 2020s all the time, we’d all be a little sharper," says neuroscientist @davideagleman .

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3 years

Trying to fix burnout by taking time off "until you're ready" and then going right back to the same environment is kind of like staying off your broken leg and then as soon as it's healed letting someone run over it with their car

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5 years

A lot of people seem to think that adding the blurb “women and minorities are encouraged to apply” at the end of a job ad will fix their hiring practices. It…will not.

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4 years

So rest up, friends. You have earned rest because you are a living creature who exists on this planet. If you want to devote yourself to high achievement, you are justified in rest by understanding the complexity of how achievement functions.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

Creativity research reliably documents the importance of deep rest, and that the people privileged to be able to live highly creative lives often have these deep rest cycles built in. Has been missed in research often but profoundly predictive of work outcomes when included.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

Rest is required for learning (& forgetting is required for learning!). Learning isn't just mashing more content into a bucket-brain forever. Lots of effects (from deliberate practice to spacing) show cram/work 'til you drop methods are inefficient, destructive in the longterm.

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2 years

The level of experimentation happening in twenty-something girls' bathrooms all over the country is the pipeline I dream of empowering. Recruiting directly in the sephora comments. Have you READ those comments? They're literally methods sections

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4 years

The "10,000 hours rule" (never a rule, decried by a thousand cognitive scientists, plucked from research to be cast into podcast-perpetual-pandering by Gladwell, Like He Does) in original context actually talks about deliberate practice and *rest* cycles.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

Getting downtime, mind-wandering time, nondirected time, has shown strong associations with creativity and innovation. It makes sense. You need space to wonder about things that *don't seem productive* otherwise why would they be innovative??

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

Sleep is protective of long-term cognitive health in so many ways that it's up there with exercise and food as an absolute basic building block, not just of daily functioning, but of cognitive health in aging.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

I don't believe we need to justify rest--but it is *clearly* tied to performance. High performers worked far fewer hours than we think. When you look into famous intellectual figures that people tweet hustle porn about, they did not work the 80+ hour weeks we have normalized.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

Achievement by supposed lone figures rides on the labor of all. Many of us come from families that have had to work every moment & had that work only expand the privilegeds' time. I think...I think that sometimes resting is reclaiming, healing intergenerational exploitation.

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2 years

Effects over time. Interactions. Mediation analysis. It's all there. If they can keep acting like hanging out in garages is "computers" we get to have this.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

My dad won't acknowledge we're getting married--I tried to expect it, but it's been unexpectedly hard to think about all that wedding stuff without him. So my baby brother is stepping up to offer to do any "dad" thing I might want, including walking down the aisle! 😭💗🏳️‍🌈

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2 years

@Sephora I can give a whole keynote on this, I mean it

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Dr. Cat Hicks

3 years

The fact that Amanda Gorman has shared about having an auditory processing disorder and speech impediment; lots of framing of this as "overcoming" but she has said "it's made me the storyteller" this is profoundly more moving, accurate, and beautiful to me

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Dr. Cat Hicks

3 years

Oh wow you academics are really easy to rile up on a Sunday BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL ON YOUR COMPUTERS AREN'T YOU

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Dr. Cat Hicks

2 years

I guess I've felt for three years like I can't complain because I don't have kids and I work from home but I miss my family, I miss the gym, I miss dancing with people (I used to dance so much!), I'm worried about the toll the pandemic has had on my career. It's hard today.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

3 years

Corrected reframing from a social scientist: people's sexist RESPONSES to and biased EVALUATIONS of women's perfectly normal performance & social behaviors are hurting women

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Harvard Business Review

3 years

Women may actually be harming their presentation outcomes by making jokes.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

Today would've been our wedding. Instead we monitor fire evacuations during a global pandemic and try not to breathe in ash or virus during a climate change heatwave. But you are my best apocalypse companion now and always.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

3 years

This is a free service I offer any day of the week to any of you Variants include: "I WENT TO GRAD SCHOOL TOO SO DON'T GIVE ME THAT" "WHO EXACTLY TOLD YOU NOT TO VALUE THAT" and my favorite "YOU KNOW PEOPLE JUST LIE ABOUT HOW MANY HOURS THEY WORK, RIGHT?"

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

Every time I tweet something even a little bit gay I lose so many data science follows on here, which is nice because I appreciate self-disposing garbage

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Dr. Cat Hicks

2 years

Seeing approximately twenty thousand job postings for AI Ethics/AI & Social Good and every one of them requiring heavy algo/data infrastructure type skills but so far not one of them requiring experience in research design, threats to validity, operationalization...

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Dr. Cat Hicks

3 years

I want a movie where we literally don't even hear about a straight person. I'm sorry y'all but it's just not realistic to shoe-horn all these straight people into our traditional gay celebrations

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Dr. Cat Hicks

2 years

Doing research with developer teams, something that really strikes me is how much people look for ways to make complex problems easy rather than make it easy to work on complex problems

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Dr. Cat Hicks

3 years

This is what I do on linkedin now. Just constantly making people so uncomfortable. :)

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Dr. Cat Hicks

2 years

People keep treating this like it's completely unpredictable chaos. It's not. It's at this point highly predictable outcomes of not doing the right research design and not evaluating your modeling. I dislike that we are acting like this is incomprehensible.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

2 years

@JulieReynolds42 Given the acuity with which 16 yr old girls analyze the world, data science should BE so lucky. Happy to chat with your daughter about my day to day anytime ❤️

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Dr. Cat Hicks

3 years

You could have a fully cheesy Christmas movie plot too, just center it on queer lives (FOR ONCE), like do you know how many queer people host other queer folks and create healing and joy for them on the holidays?? It's the ultimate holiday sappy plot RIGHT THERE

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

We've fought for years to be who we are. We've always believed that we could build this life even when nothing was given easily. And so we took 2020 into our own hands and decided love couldn't wait. We eloped!! @analog_ashley 💖

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3 years

One Christmas we discovered that my wife had never seen Star Wars (😱) and we spent the entirety watching them and then playing all the Star Wars LEGO games, THAT is what queer people do for Christmas

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Dr. Cat Hicks

3 years

"I don't know why I just can't fully relax when I take vacation" idk friend mayhaps you are screaming internally in your soul because "vacation" actually just means "fortifying myself for returning" and isn't, you know, experiencing your own life

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Dr. Cat Hicks

5 years

Something a former boss used to do that left a real impression on me was say "Oh, cool, I'm wrong!" in a tone of great satisfaction when you presented stronger opposing evidence.

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4 years

@JuniperLSimonis There's a whole counter thing called "nap porn" and I follow a bunch of nap/rest/chill Instagram accounts 😂

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

To say we "need" novelty because ~fully abstracted brain thing~ in 2020 is...bizarre when you could talk about the work on how we NEED community, support, how stress can be mitigated and transformed by our hope in each other, how healing and repair can happen after crisis. DOES.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

2 years

I have a new research report out. It is free & you can have it!! It's about writing code and "Learning Debt": a way to describe how *even tech teams focused on productivity* often fail to support learning. But I'll also tell you about it here! 🧵

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Dr. Cat Hicks

6 months

Hello. I am announcing that I am on a quest to find "causal inference people who are not mean" and "statisticians who REALLY like to help people in the real world." I expect this quest to be arduous. Tell me who to follow. This has been a test of the emergency networking system.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

Maybe bored folks treating the brain like a four-piece lego set a million times over need some novelty; I need the hard work of thinking about real change. How we heal trauma, and build adaptive beliefs, and connect to each other and keep going. And THAT is social science.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

I kind of try to hold back on the snark about fields and pop authors etc but this is just distasteful. People are in crisis and some of us have devoted our lives to trying to understand and make that better and they just keep getting the money and platforms and get out of the WAY

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Dr. Cat Hicks

2 years

Faculty have been posting threads like this for over a decade and it changes nothing. I am tired of it. You all need to create better admittance and application system. You are failing students and occasional threads of "tips" is not a fix. You ARE the system you are critiquing.

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Every year I read a lot of grad school applications from accomplished people that don't give me the info I'm looking for. It feels like a major hidden curriculum thing. So here's (my opinion on) how to write a great Statement of Purpose/Research for a PhD program. 🧵 1/

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Dr. Cat Hicks

2 years

A lot of people who teach statistics need to understand they might not just be "teaching statistics" but also "teaching the first time a student has seen code" and "teaching the first time a student has been given permission to interact with a computer on this level"

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Dr. Cat Hicks

3 years

I have to admit something. My first job was as a barista in a tiny cafe&bakery. I do not understand, not one iota, why so many people fantasize about leaving technical careers to run a bakery as if that would be peaceful!!! Do you know how hard it is to run a bakery

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Dr. Cat Hicks

3 years

What is up with this continual protesting in data science that "the hardest problem is actually getting quality data" and then absolutely no pathways to hire, value and evaluate the skillsets around operationalizing and collecting quality data

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Dr. Cat Hicks

2 years

@metzpsych The subgroup understanding! The complexity of navigating when mainstream effects are noninclusive and wrong!! The wisdom of marginalized communities and their expertise!!!

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

The light of my life! The troublemaker of my heart! The first listener of all my stories! Sometimes the whole world will tell you what you will never have, and sometimes the whole world is wrong. So you change it. #engayged #loveislove

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5 years

I've given feedback on 3 grad school research statements so far this fall. I do this every year for folks in my fields, and every year, I see really similar patterns! Here are a few of them:

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Dr. Cat Hicks

10 months

@_dsevero @HadasKotek The figure being the poster again is making me lose it

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

As long as we're all here (in hell), let's talk about resilience. Because it's my favorite thing, my guiding light, my little brother driving home from fires to work in the covid ward in a hospital, it is what I wake up for. And I learn about it from social science.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

This in-group out-group take..............I cannot. You people in neuro need to get your people.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

1 year

soooooo we were finally able to have our joyful perfect absolutely queer wedding celebration 🥹

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Dr. Cat Hicks

3 years

Sure accomplishing things in one's "career" is great but have you ever logged into an online board game site to play with your far-away family and seen that your little brother's username is the name of a character you made up in a bedtime story for him when you were kids

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Dr. Cat Hicks

2 years

Tenure blazer is done!!! 🥰

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Dr. Cat Hicks

2 years

I've been designing a custom blazer for my wife to celebrate her tenure (!!!!) and thinking about it helped distract me during my worst covid moments and this weekend I'm halfway through making it 🥲

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Dr. Cat Hicks

3 years

hm wow if only hundreds and hundreds of lgbtq+ people had ever pointed this kind of outcome out for years and years

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Dr. Cat Hicks

1 year

The only tweet I've ever had to mute is this one

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

I finished a personal essay I was gonna just lob onto the web and then my fiancee read it and said it was too good and I had to pitch it instead and honestly they tell you to marry someone supportive but they don't tell you it'll create more work when you just want to play Sims

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Dr. Cat Hicks

3 years

People don't believe that retaliation happens in tech....and then you literally see people in power make wild claims here on twitter that folks should all be fired if they even attempt to look in the direction of legal labor rights. What do you think they do in PRIVATE, folks.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

Truly cannot get over the fact that the California government asked my wife and I which one of us wanted to be the groom and which one of us wanted to be the bride!!! You cannot both check bride!!! WHOMST in civic data design is responsible for this I must know

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Dr. Cat Hicks

2 years

ok this is the blazer I made last weekend, worth noting this is my fifth garment ever and my first top piece aka the first thing I've ever made with sleeves, I learned a lot and I feel very proud of teaching myself something brand new!!

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Dr. Cat Hicks

2 years

I don't know how to say "I'm back after an extremely difficult and scary covid case" but hey, I'm back after an extremely difficult and scary covid case! How is everybody

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Dr. Cat Hicks

3 years

Yeah, this is not it. I'm speaking as both a social scientist with some experience studying causal beliefs and as a person who got out of extremist right-wing culture and who has spent some significant time helping other people get out and listening to the folks who have, too.

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3 years

These people were lied to, over and over, by officials at the highest levels of the American government, people with power and, presumably, knowledge. They trusted the President, and Republican members of Congress, to tell them the truth, and they believed what they were told.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

5 years

(Sidenote: equitable hiring doesn’t lower the bar, we study this ad nauseam, prob bc the CURRENT SITUATION= mediocre majority folks are privileged beyond merit—folks always yap on about this it AND YET never acknowledge that mediocre majority boosting is lowering the bar hmmm)

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Dr. Cat Hicks

1 year

Since we're a week into the new year and resolutions, my top tip about motivation as a social scientist who studies motivation is that it's not about keeping yourself from giving up, it's about knowing how to restart after you've had a giving up moment :)

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

And now ~a week after this union fought for them, there's a confirmed case in the grocery store employees & because of all this the folks in contact with that person have gotten paid and are therefore able to take quarantine. Absolutely no exaggeration this is saving lives.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

My sister works in a grocery store and when she first got this job I was so incredibly glad they had a union, I watched the impact of all they did in normal times. Now, their union got them hazard pay (beyond deserved). Unions change and save lives.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

3 years

Sounds like girls are learning to be accurate about the punitive response that comes from asking for things from men; I dislike how often these things are framed as choice-by-asker, instead of an accurate prediction. This well-intentioned framing still puts the 'blame' on women.

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From a young age, women learn to defer to men. Data: by age 9, girls ask for a smaller bonus from men than women. Boys request the same bonus regardless of gender. I want to live in a world where female ambition is celebrated, not discouraged. #InternationalWomensDay #IWD2021

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Dr. Cat Hicks

5 years

@lyzl And yet this is the most culturally straight joke I've seen in a while

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Dr. Cat Hicks

2 years

Friends, I have some news! Excited to share that I've joined Pluralsight Flow as VP of Research Insights. Focusing on crafting an impactful, heartfelt research agenda to help the industry learn about & create more developer experience, developer learning, & developer thriving.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

5 years

"It was built using records from the US Department of Veterans Affairs, a training dataset that was 94% male. It would need a lot more testing to be sure of its utility in the general population. There were also many false positives." Lord, those are some important details.

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DeepMind’s algorithm can predict serious kidney injury 48 hours before it happens

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Dr. Cat Hicks

5 years

I mean it’s not bad to add this. But there are so many intricacies. For instance, one thing I've been really interesting in for a while: job ads that emphasize essentialist framings of ability, call for "brilliance" and “a genius," absolutely make equitable hiring less likely

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Dr. Cat Hicks

7 months

I was truly unprepared for how deeply and profoundly folks act like there are not fields beyond CS. That everything "technical" is necessarily software engineering and everything NOT software engineering cannot be "technical." Wild truly how deeply held those boundaries are.

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What’s something about tech that you weren’t prepared for and how did you navigate it?

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

@Remember_Sarah When I was in grad school and had an unknown stalker actively threatening me/doxxing my work location to hundreds of dudes in my city, someone told me to ***consider plastic surgery*** which was a research-worthy intersection of female objectification & victim blaming.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

2 years

What would it look like if we could ask, "how do I make this the absolute best environment for complex problem-solving" instead of "how do I take away all these annoying hard problems." The stuff we want to accomplish in the world is hard. But can be joyful to accomplish.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

2 years

In case you, like me, know people on here as familiar photo blobs and get startled when they change--I changed my picture 🤷 25% eyebrows 25% hair 50% opinions about human behavior and data

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Dr. Cat Hicks

5 years

Here are some reasons: people who combat stereotypes and prejudice and other such systematic biases are particularly unlikely to either self-identify, or be identified, with essentialist labels. And tying specific job performance to a trait concept is essentializing it.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

My sister works in a grocery store and when she first got this job I was so incredibly glad they had a union, I watched the impact of all they did in normal times. Now, their union got them hazard pay (beyond deserved). Unions change and save lives.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

If you think that I will not capitalize on this enormous love to force both of my little brothers to dance a super embarrassing dance with me you are MISTAKEN

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Dr. Cat Hicks

1 year

One of the most maladaptive things that academic social science has ever done for its students is completely fail to recognize and define the skills of research design and methodology as explicit and technical skillsets.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

1 year

After months of chest pain and labored breathing issues, I finally had an appointment with a pulmonologist at UCSD health and they just canceled it this morning because they erroneously thought I hadn't confirmed it (I had confirmed it!). The next appointment is in February.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

3 years

One recruiter a long while ago, of whom I think with great fondness, responded with "LOVE THIS, LOVE YOU ASKING THIS, gonna be real the numbers are bad. Really bad." blessings on his house

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Dr. Cat Hicks

1 year

@mrsmacbiogal My sister whose union had to literally fight their grocery store chain management to let them even be allowed to wear masks

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Dr. Cat Hicks

5 years

When I took the SAT, it was the first time I'd ever set foot in a high school. I was already working most days. I'd never taken a formal math class. I was pretty stressed out by how much the test fee cost. I drove myself. I'd practiced with five year old books from the library.

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5 years

I just got to Felicity Huffman's part of the college entrance scheme affidavit and I'm in tears RUH RO

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Dr. Cat Hicks

1 year

Here's a list of things I've been told NOT to wear during job interviews, academic/or industry both, and while presenting research on stages: -suits -earrings -skirts -dresses -pants -jumpsuits -anything with rainbows -color that isn't all black - all black -jeans -trousers

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David Ubilava

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It's a fly-out season, and one thing that has been almost bugging me is the dress code. Often, job market candidates are the only ones in the room dressed in suits. Likely they have not worn them much in past and will not wear them again once hired. [1/2]

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Dr. Cat Hicks

5 years

There's no place on a resume for "really good at noticing when people are starting to give up on a task because they think they're stupid, and rallying them by yelling NO THIS TASK IS STUPID and WE'RE GONNA BEAT IT" but I wish there were I think it's one of my Top Skills

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Dr. Cat Hicks

3 years

Kind of wild when HR in tech is like, "Yes, the canary is dead! But all the other canaries in the other chambers are also dead, so we're meeting our industry expectations 😇"

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Dr. Cat Hicks

5 years

I realized today that I write all my code in the kitchen (the island is the right height to stand at), which makes every single time a guy in this industry has told me to "go back to the kitchen" objectively hilarious

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Dr. Cat Hicks

2 years

Dragged my sad long covid self outside. This time of year I'm usually hiking ten mile hikes. Too scared to hike right now because I don't know what's happening to my heart so I just sat a bit. Still very nice. The world belongs to us all in all our abilities.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

The best networking advice I have beyond the usual is that when you meet someone with a job that's different from yours it's really fun to ask them to tell you something that would surprise most people who don't work in their field, or that most people get wrong.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

2 years

Hm I'm just a learning scientist what do I know but it seems to me if your goal is to get people to feel welcome in learning stats you shouldn't be dunking on screenshots of earnest questions trying to figure out a more accurate decision?

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Taya Collyer

2 years

Meanwhile, on Reddit... #statstwitter

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Dr. Cat Hicks

11 months

Surgical masks do not protect you from wildfire smoke, n95s do. But we decided to not care about teaching people about masks. Indoor air is not filtered well in many NYC buildings. But we decided not to care about indoor air. We're going to watch a lot of crises create crises.

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

I'm really, meaningfully excited to share that I'm joining Khan Academy as a Senior Research Scientist!

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Dr. Cat Hicks

3 years

Another man yelled at me for putting on a mask to pass him on a trail early this morning and mockingly repeated me in a high pitched yowl when I said 27 people died in the veterans home my grandmother was in. I'm just, so tired and tired of being shaken up and tired of their rage

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

@LetMood *fancy PI voice* "what if.....a LITTLE bit of trauma....intricately excavated out of the entirety of societal experience with such a privileged lens that it is in fact, not trauma at all.....could be good for you?"

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Dr. Cat Hicks

4 years

A year ago we beat everybody to Zion in the very early morning and I'm really glad we did! This is one of those photos you look at and you're like wait did I really take that

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Dr. Cat Hicks

5 years

I know tech loves to go “let’s fix minorities’ self-esteem!!” but that’s prob not the biggest issue, e.g. mid-level tech women are accurate about skills, but expect hiring situations to be much harsher than men do (and are they wrong?!). Check out reports-

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Dr. Cat Hicks

5 years

I think sometimes there is a fascinating paradoxical effect: companies trying hard to get more inclusive, and put encouraging language in their ads, will ALSO double-down on language about “genius” and “rockstar” because they want to reassure that they’re not “lowering the bar”

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