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8 months

Since it looks like this topic is back I'd like to remind people that Ghost Face is one of the most popular ripoff masks of all time and the original artist hasn't seen a cent in profits (very long thread🧵)

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@PausedSponge It was Universal who fired the actor, not Paramount. Different companies

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going to read these again to see if they’re as great as I remember them being, brb

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@TheJakeneutron the inventor, lanny smoot, is super cool. he just got inducted into the inventors hall of fame

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@TheEmberer This isn’t the original text - I honestly don’t know why anybody felt the need to rewrite it because the original is really good

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Since this has been announced, here’s a fun fact I forgot to mention - my Dad did the animation for Monkey for Secrets of the Furious Five! Not sure how much of it he did, but the segment on his reel comes from the same short as this infamous clip

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The year was 1990, and sculptor Loren Gitthens made a new costume for a Halloween party at Tony Gardner’s (the guy who got decapitated in Chucky) Alterian Studios, basing the design on a bedsheet ghost and a different mask he sculpted.

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@Mhuyo @tobyfox *It’s a picture of Sans holding a trophy. *There’s a strange yellow figure sobbing in the background.

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During a slump in business a few months later, the artists had the idea to start selling their own designs. Six designs were made, including Loren's ghost, and were included in kits with glue and paints, so that when glued to a bedsheet, you could have your own ghost costume!

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Think I should be able to post these publicly, so here’s a ton of cool stuff I saw at the archives at Nickelodeon!

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@RiseFallNickBck I kinda miss when they called each other "sponge" and "squid." they should do that again I think

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Was avoiding posting this one, but might as well: My dad is an animator - he’s had a long career, has met a ton of cool people, and had the chance to work on many great projects! Here’s some of his work that I know of:

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share a piece of lore about yourself

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Creating a new business under the name of Alterian Ghost Factory, Tony started marketing the costumes (called the Ghost Maker) in various magazines and trade shows. In March 1991 they would be marketed at the Chicago Halloween trade show.

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Was looking for Flowey’s overworld sprite and found this abomination instead… I feel scared

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This is where Fun World comes into the story. At the time, Fun World was already infamous for ripping off masks from other companies, such as Don Post. Pictured below is the original mask by Don Post in an ad for Halloween 3, and the imitation by Fun World.

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So is there anything we can do? We can keep spreading the truth - if either Fun World or Miramax admit wrongdoing on their part, then hopefully things will change for the better. Maybe this could even lead to restrictions on IP theft in masks. We'll just have to wait and see.

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After Liden's designs were approved and sculpted, "Item #9206 Glow-in-the-Dark Ghost Mask with Shroud" hit store shelves, in black and white shrouds. Almost immediately it can be noticed that these four designs look suspiciously similar to the ones shown at the trade show.

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Regardless of if Fun World ever talked to Alterian, several months later in-house designer Brigitte Sleiertin-Liden received a request from the company to sketch up some designs based on a picture of existing masks, which she proceeded to do.

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Fun World denies any wrongdoing on their part - they now claim that the mask was designed by company president Alan Geller (ignoring their designer Brigitte Sleiertin-Linden), and Torbert blocks/threatens anybody who tries to point out the true origins of the design.

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Fun World was at that same trade show, and I believe even expressed some interest in the Ghost Factory line. But one thing is clear - Fun World and Alterian never made any licensing deals or agreements.

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Several years after all of this, Loren, who had left the effects industry, was in a drugstore and saw the Fun World masks on display. Immediately recognizing his design, he was amused and thought nothing of it, considering them just another cheap knockoff.

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Several mask concepts were made but none of them had the proper feel, so KNB Effects made a version of the mask that was nearly identical but still legally distinct. This version was used early in filming and can still be seen in scenes with Drew Berrymore and Henry Winkler.

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@AmadeusTempest Cool if true but this is also the billboard that this happened on. For all we know this is a troll who paid for the ad space

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The other three masks, now known from left to right as the Silly, Goofy, and Happy Ghosts, fell to the wayside, but the Weeping Ghost, in its very first incarnation, is now one of the most sought after masks in the collecting community, with tagged instances going for thousands.

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By 1995, Wes Craven was getting ready to shoot his next movie, Scream. The film’s killer still needed a mask, and while location scouting, producer Marianne Maddalen found a familiar face sitting in a bedroom. Wes loved it, but they didn't have the rights to use it at the time.

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However, they were successfully able to talk to Fun World and obtain the rights to use the mask, and Ghost Face was born. The Weeping Ghost's popularity skyrocketed and the following year Fun World began marketing the masks as seen in Scream, and also started selling robes.

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This is absurd because Fun World sells Burkbench masks - the Silent Screamer (found at Walmart and Dollar General) is a Burkbench creation!

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And now we reach the modern era of Ghost Face. It's been over 30 years since that original Alterian concept. Fun World still makes Ghost Face masks and products, and the mask has become so popular it's now branded as "The Icon of Halloween".

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They also hate people selling the design they stole - Burbench Designs, an independent studio that made replicas of the KNB mask, was recently told to stop selling them after someone notified Fun World.

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@nescartridges if there's a person out there whose last name is jetson they better name their kid george

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One last thing of note is that in 1999, the line began to officially use the Ghost Face name. Coined by licensing director RJ Torbert, the recognizable name led to the line becoming the famous Halloween juggernaut it is today.

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@The_9th_Sage @Lucky_BunTTV Ah, the double Patrick defense! A classic, he’s sure to win

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And also, Fun World may have shitty standards, but their artists are very skilled. Please don’t go after them!

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@uorplefever He’s literally a beartrap that has cupcake bits attached

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@heartymcfarty @AstroMonster312 If I had a nickel for every time a grandma loved a plushie of a character from a hit indie game I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice

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Glad to see this thread got so many people’s attention. The history behind them is unfortunately very disappointing but I still enjoy collecting the masks - they’ve become a major pop culture icon and one of my favorite mask designs.

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If you want to get your own Ghost Maker, check out November Novelties on Insta:

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@oocukkidstv Exactly! It’s like muppet fleece - the company that made it stopped production and now it’s really difficult to source

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The Bunny guy (🇧🇷)

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*loud honking noise* "fuCKing MOOVE"

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@Rolkz3 @somethinmissing I think that’s actually Wenda

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@utdrhistory It sounds 100% identical, but have we ever gotten confirmation about this?

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@HannaBarberaCap I like that Tom has a cricket bat instead of a baseball bat - cricket's really popular in Asia

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@M1das_OW2 Some of max’s animations are pretty good but they’re seriously outweighed by the ridiculously large number of racist caricatures he puts into his work

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"Ah, Perry the Platypus, I see you've walked into my 1930s hotel library just in time for me to unveil... my fifth dimensional maintainance elevator-inator! Now you may be asking yourself, "Doof, why would you tear a giant hole in space and time? Well let me explain..."

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Tower of Terror closing for new Phineas and Ferb ride! #disneyworld #hollywoodstudios

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@RiseFallNickBck I know they all mean “I love you” but since my mom is Korean I asked her the difference between each one - first one is romantic/affectionate - second is forceful/aggressive - third is formal/respectful

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I love how all the characters are dav pilkeys actual pets, it’s great

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@depthsofwiki Well that settles it right there

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@ampol_moment After being shot he asked police to drag the would-be assassin, John Schrank, to him. He tried to ask Schrank why he did it, but getting no response, stated "Oh, what's the use? Turn him over to the police." Roosevelt even requested that no harm be done to Shrank after his arrest

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@EMositeCC It's great that her first name is "Doctor," and her last name is "Princess" and people assume she's one or both of those things

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@db_witch Pickelhaube gang rise up

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@depthsofwiki Reading through the article a lot of these are really darkly comedic. I’d hate to have my name put on this list

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@entom_dp I like the idea that Roxy was apparently fine with getting hit by a car and having her eyes ripped out, and actually hates Gregory for a ✨secret third reason✨

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Asked my dad about this, most animators get paid much, much more per second of animation. Even as outsourcing, the rates should be higher than that.

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Green light to send this around has been given, and you'd better believe I'm gonna do just that. Proof, straight from Adam himself, of Spindlehorse paying Hazbin animators $35 per second. That is fucking /slave wages./ This is abuse.

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@DeviIMan84 All the makeup was done practically too, which I really love

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@yaguyalt @NoahPasternak Batman 1919-1939 is one of my favorite things somebody’s done with the characters, especially the makeup made for it

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If you have concerns you want to express to the company, Fun World is on Instagram, and RJ Torbert is here on Twitter

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@PausedSponge Yeah, fair. Seems possible they just didn’t know but they should’ve looked into the matter before making this

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Original paintings and a cel of the conch signal!

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@TheHattedGamer I like that Ted and Sonny come back as zombies in the Abomi-Nation episode

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Bringing this off of priv: I believe Legos peaked in the year 2000 solely because of these four sets

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Okay I’m back, they were still great

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@ArbeePoo Some people forget that characters like Helen Henny and the Rockafire Explosion went through personality changes as the animatronic pizza restaurant craze progressed - it makes sense to change the character roles.

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@OOCCouchGags what’s the opposite of poetry in motion

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@dailytobytrivia Sebastian Wolff really is the anti-Toby lmao

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@fazfacts_ Please ladies one at a time

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Went for a walk with my dog, and turns out my brain is fucking cooked

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I had no clue this much stuff from Help Wanted still survived, it’s amazing

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@TelevisionSpill The way that popsicle is painted is giving me high hopes

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@FNaF_Funnies The two of them are friends, I would’ve been surprised if he didn’t show up

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Here's all the photos I took of THEM yesterday on my other camera

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@Ish_bruhh I can’t wait until 30 years from now when the final chapter releases and we found out what this wack ass dream was

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Just got sent this image and I don’t have my glasses on. Can anybody tell me what it says

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Muting this thread but before I do, check out the Ghostface Collectors and Ghostface Enthusiasts groups on Facebook, as well as Drowned Boy Productions on YouTube - great sources of info on all things Ghost Face!

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@OOCCouchGags That dumb noise Homer makes lives in my head rent free

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pattern recognition test

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@TheJakeneutron I actually think what would’ve happened would be more or less what Fionna saw in the vision (maybe minus the freezer Simon). Like you said the magical foundation is gone, and the reintroduction of magic into that world would make it go nuts

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@dotgovcore @jzux she literally says “orphans are in,” it’s pretty much the only reason they got adopted in the first place. Never thought that aspect of the stories would become reality but here we are

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@behind_pics I love the backstory behind this - the kid won a contest to design a new doctor who monster, this creature, which can absorb people into itself. Fun!

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@RiseFallNickBck Rugrats ones get worse iirc

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@uorplefever This is the account for Brazilian Chuck E Cheese, they’re cooler than the block-happy American account

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@JennyENicholson Some people were saying that what that kid said should’ve helped, but I definitely watched the movie and it didn’t really. Of course he isn’t Freddy, he’s some random kid

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@Criminalsimpson I noticed they used “ones” instead of “onions” at one point 💀

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Model's done!! Ignore the base

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The Bob was everywhere of course

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Love joining these FX makeup groups on Facebook because sometimes you get to see stuff from HHN

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There’s a Lil Boo Mold a Rama at Island of Adventure now! The Cat one is replacing the Tribute Store Frankenstein #HHN31 #HalloweenHorrorNights

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@yaguyalt @NoahPasternak Batman 1919-1939 is one of my favorite things somebody’s done with the characters, especially the makeup made for it

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@CALAM1TYPANN3 And at this point he still thinks he’s the original Finn (which he technically is). Imagine this being the way you find out you’re not the real you

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@bonniemvo @_greatnate_

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A bunch of interesting sketches

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@ampol_moment Terrible, the world ice cream economy is going to collapse

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@DevSprings I believe he is slightly radioactive, which could explain the low quality

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@ampol_moment I don’t know where this photo was taken but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the Iowa State Fair. Politicians swarm the place due to the upcoming caucuses and in an attempt to be relatable scarf down as much food as possible (studies have shown this kinda works)

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@MickeyPalsOoC Always find it funny that nobody ever posts the end of the clip

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@bad2sentence Only two periods, checks out

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Some more sketches, the storyboards for the SpongeBob theme song, and a stop motion puppet and model from a modern episode

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@MystikSpark If you’re referring to the first film that was Alan Geller, the Fun World president who had little to no involvement in the creative process.

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