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big fan of respecting a creator's genuine and unbigoted decisions, and not making shit up to make it seem like otherwise

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okay I'm actually good and done with all this discourse now, but remember followers, don't ever forget that Bridget is trans now, and that was very clearly her own choice in-universe! this will also act as a pinned with a bit of useful stuff in the thread for the discourse:
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made a very important update to this after today's news. Vivian and Bridget are trans lets GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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@AWMonopolyMan @Ser1fTheThird yea, if Bridget wasn't happy back then, she wouldn't be using a Yo-Yo in the first place.
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@Mynam31sBryan @JupiterJavel @BigBear_4U @StrayAlliance @Seraphwhite02 @mahziel3 @FemboyArchive @XephyXeph @GACSacc @FemboysMemes @/haruruchandesu, @/D_4nC_3d01l, y'all try to go to her, but 1, she hasn't played the games lol 2, she just abuses the language barrier, and your friend probably does, too, but Haley's also got a 97-page google doc of history on why she in particular is untrustworthy LOL
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@zombrozo it's literally just a recession that occurs when any update happens, dude. the player count after that update, no matter how popular it is, will eventually recede back to the normal numbers, that's how fighting games especially have always been.
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@HylianRailgun @Shadeflares yep, that sure is a male symbol on Bridget's design in XX! would be a shame if on Bridget's design in Strive explicitly gave her a symbol that's largely called a transgender mark (トランスジェンダーのマーク and alsoトランスジェンダーマーク) in Japan- oh wait, they did.
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@ripple_lover_gt @kalina_chung Bridget wasn't ever fighting specifically to be seen as a man, though, it was just that Bridget wanted to debunk the superstition, because her parents were sad and she couldn't do anything about it otherwise.
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@Wesley04837814 @brycecarringto5 you have genuinely not played the game if you think Guilty Gear Strive has bad endings. and that is not Bridget's reason for fighting either, Bridget was fighting to prove the superstition was unfounded, yes, but there's a reason behind THAT, and it's not to be a man afterwards.
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@Clarky_3082 @dailyfggirls ok so Isuka is based off of XX so it probably takes place around then, when Bridget was a kid, but 6 years after XX, in Strive, when Bridget got added as a DLC, her Arcade Mode was focused on her becoming open about a thing she realized around the time: that she's a trans woman.
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@HylianRailgun there is nothing that suggests it's the bad ending, though. it's only one of four endings that you can get, that are all part of the same storyline. do you have any actual proof that it's a bad ending and not just desperate reaches like "Ky holds back so it's a bad ending"
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@seanhiruki nice screenshot from stage 1 of Bridget sadly calling herself a boy, great job telling everyone you suck too much at the game to reach the later stages LOL
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@KingdomKey93 @sapphicrackhead HA, pretty much! a cis woman trying to essentially speak on behalf of trans women, who would literally know better lmao
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@CPUSublimeHeart @oops4041555 @CmbineDaSoldier @therealpanzer no, everyone says the character is trans bc the character came out as trans in her Strive Arcade Mode, long after proving the superstition wrong, this happens in both English and Japanese. like, "ウチは... 女の子ですから!" translates pretty easily to "I'm... a girl!"...
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@ActivismMeo @shadexana6 well, I bothered, and they haven't. ever. kinda just goes to show something, ya know? the account's named femboy archive, hosting a femboy friday, and features exclusively Bridget, the one character they're mad isn't a femboy, and no actual femboys, not even the usual suspects.
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A lot of this is like, really interesting, actually, because it implies Bridget was planned to figure out she's trans in the end from the get go, and that it hasn't ever been changed in direction, which actually makes that victory quote against herself make a fair bit of sense...
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@ActivismMeo @ripple_lover_gt @kalina_chung every time, without fail, it's always the "it's just a drawing" crowd trying to preach that Bridget was groomed.
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@lloid_GRcorolla @wrong_nam @crearballs Bridget was only referred to as an otokonoko by *fans*, never Daisuke, not knowing the english phrase "trans rights" does not mean he didn't know what trans people are, that's a reach. also, that symbol is referred to as a transgender mark (トランスジェンダーのマーク) in Japan.
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@lloid_GRcorolla @wrong_nam no, you said """Twitter Freaks""" harassed Daisuke for 4 months, and spread news that bridget being a girl would "sell the game in the west", when what happened is that Bridget got announced, released, and came out as trans in Strive in the span of a day, in English and Japanese.
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@Ariel_Haymarket nah, Johnny has a different line entirely for Testament, as he knows them from before: "Now here's a face I haven't seen in a minute." the line used for female fighters, including Bridget, is "I'd hate to waste a lady's time.".
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@lloid_GRcorolla @wrong_nam @crearballs no, it's an insane reach to claim that he didn't know what trans people are, because he didn't know a phrase from another language. and he does not say that in the 25th Anniversary video, you'd be able to cite where he does, if so.
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@lloid_GRcorolla @wrong_nam Those are bots that appeared about a month or two ago, that we don't know who caused the appearance of them. Since they did *not* appear before Bridget's release for Strive, they are not responsible, try again, you need something from before Bridget's reveal on August 8th 2022.
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@lloid_GRcorolla @wrong_nam I mean, yeah, if you cherry-pick reactions, it *would* probably look like Japan got an entirely different version of the game, but they didn't, Japan openly acknowledges the symbol as a transgender mark (トランスジェンダーのマーク) & Bridget still says "ウチは... 女の子ですから!"
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@lloid_GRcorolla @wrong_nam then you're talking about the interview at Anime Expo in 2009, far before Strive, that doesn't really deny the possibility the character could come out as trans later, and could also easily be chalked up to a creator not wanting to spoil their work.
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@HylianRailgun an ending of the Arcade Mode that tends to have the most information in it, like how Anji's ending of the same conditions has him and Chipp befriend Nagoriyuki. more like a developer interview in both English and Japanese. the wiki page only reflects what is objectively canon.
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@FalvoMetro @JupiterJavel @GrumpyCatterman that is literally unproven nonsense that gets contradicted by the fact that Daisuke drew Bridget's concept art. like, please, go on, provide any shred of proof that Emiko is Bridget's "real creator".
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@FalvoMetro @JupiterJavel @GrumpyCatterman I mean, that *is* an english phrase, but it's weird af to chalk it up to him not knowing what trans people are entirely, a reach, even.
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@lloid_GRcorolla @wrong_nam you are basing your accusation that he didn't know what trans people are until then on him not knowing a phrase in another language entirely. and they didn't make it "because of grooming", Bridget's been living on her own for 6 years in-universe by Strive.
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@lloid_GRcorolla @wrong_nam "it's just a trap thing, source? dude trust me" except the character literally only behaved like a man and fought the superstition bc of her parents, also this symbolism in her XX design. and yes, I have played the game, and know Bridget's whole story, you however, don't seem to.
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@lloid_GRcorolla @wrong_nam and yet you, for some reason, refuse to prove that people were protesting for Bridget to be trans before Bridget's release and Bridget coming out as trans, fascinating. like you literally tried to pass off bots that appeared last month as "proof".
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@lloid_GRcorolla @wrong_nam and again, the ""twitter freaks"" had nothing to do with Bridget being trans, nobody was calling for the character be trans, the character just came out as trans with nobody asking for it.
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@lloid_GRcorolla @wrong_nam those two did get harassed, but that's entirely unrelated to the conversation, you've been unable to prove that people were protesting for Bridget to be trans, and not just that the character got announced, released, and came out as trans in her Arcade Mode, in the span of a day.
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@piromysl that implies either were considered femboys by their creators in the first place lol
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@lloid_GRcorolla @wrong_nam you're just trying to blame Bridget's upbringing on her being trans as an adult, with plenty of personal agency, and you're unintentionally insinuating all cis people were groomed. and Bridget *does* have dysphoria, her Strive design makes various additions that'd prevent it.
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@FalvoMetro @JupiterJavel @GrumpyCatterman it really doesn't, though, that's an entirely different style from what Emiko Iwasaki draws, being the artwork in these 3 images, the one above is clearly Daisuke's art style, down to the rough linework and the coloring. with the evidence we have, Emiko was only on artwork.
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@FalvoMetro @JupiterJavel @GrumpyCatterman this was an interview from 2009, before even Xrd, the validity of this is debatable due to how old it is, how writers tend to not spoil their own works, and that it doesn't dismiss the possibility the character could come out as trans later, it applies to Bridgets starting point.
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@FalvoMetro @JupiterJavel @GrumpyCatterman 1, can these bots still FUCK OFF, 2, what is your dumbass even talking about, writers don't spoil their own works, easy as that, to insinuate that they should if asked a question that'd spoil it is idiocy.
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@FalvoMetro @JupiterJavel @GrumpyCatterman Emiko was only credited for Illustrations, like the ones in the first image, the fighter's main artworks, she has no credit for any of the concept art, because Daisuke's usually the one that does them. A.B.A, for example, was designed by Mori, and he was properly credited.
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@FalvoMetro @JupiterJavel @GrumpyCatterman these deniers are all just blocking cowards, always.
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@FemboysMemes it's funny how Bridget deniers like you talk about us like "Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin good forces have invented or made" only to steal memes and fanart to use them for your own purposes, and never make your own. here's the unedited original!
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@Emilisweird @Tubularparu such can only be assumed due to timing, but it's likely more because of the mobile games failure and the series' general decline
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@FalvoMetro @JupiterJavel @GrumpyCatterman also can these bots FUCK OFF, GOD
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@ShredrCheez people are still *really* buttmad that Bridget isn't a crossdressing boy anymore with Strive, and they suddenly also started being upset that Vivian's always been a trans woman, just one that's been mistreated in older versions of the game, like Birdo was in older games.
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Okay, this actually has some like, really big shit in regards to Bridget in fact being trans, and while I can only use DeepL to look at it, rn, the general gist *should* be the same under a professional, *but also unbiased* translation.
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"But people are still complaining about Bridget to this day!" uh, yeah. most of those people aren't Guilty Gear fans. most of them appeared out of nowhere, pretending they were long-time fans with no proof to back it, to whine about Bridget being trans.
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@CultOfRedPandas tbf that'd require those people whining about Bridget to have actually *played* the games before.
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@S_Tiger_ @Brisket01__ @Licorize2 did you seriously try to cite a doujin as a source??? ...welp, reset the clock.
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@JupiterJavel @BigBear_4U @Seraphwhite02 @mahziel3 @FemboyArchive @Mynam31sBryan @XephyXeph @GACSacc @FemboysMemes that attempt to lie about a language almost none of the deniers speak is probably the saddest attempt of a coping mechanism from them LOL
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@EfiWeona @Plastik_Child more it's just a load of absolute nonsense that has no bearing on what the character is currently, and lies about what symbols mean to Japan. like, you use Johnny multiple times in that image, but Johnny *literally* refers to Bridget as a lady in Strive, bc she is one now.
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@junkballthree @KxSaber1 @Seraphwhite02 @Mynam31sBryan @BigBear_4U @JupiterJavel @mahziel3 @FemboyArchive @XephyXeph @GACSacc @FemboysMemes it sure as hell happened back when that happened, people trying to claim her as a femboy, and I'm sure one of y'all were one of the people trying to do it, probably on an old account that's now suspended, or something, as it HAS been a while since that happened.
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@borudo_naito @treeIotl @TransSuporter69 @bskakadi you literally gave a fuck. you cared enough to randomly appear and say that she isn't trans.
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@Wesley04837814 @BrooklynSmash @brycecarringto5 ah, good ol' no true scotsman, before it was feminine male characters, now it's feminine male characters who aren't used as a joke.
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@TheKaalionRjest wait, what part of her background was changed??? imo, it's been the same as it's always been since XX, going by the Japanese website for it...
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@_jvn_e @DevotionalAndi @Zenier15 @Egg_irl_bot yeah, that's in Stage 1, you know what happens many stages after that?
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@Clarky_3082 @dailyfggirls to put it simply, she changed as a character in her latest appearance in the newest game, she's a girl now.
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@markinhos21061 "Bridget got mind fucked" no, your porn addled brain just cannot see this character choosing something of her own volition and being trans (also happens in the Japanese text, mind you!) without putting something weird into it where it doesn't exist, with no writing to suggest it.
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@borudo_naito @treeIotl @TransSuporter69 @bskakadi she very clearly says "ウチは... 女の子ですから!" or "I'm a girl!" lol
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@Wesley04837814 @BrooklynSmash @brycecarringto5 what they're saying is that you only care about representation when it's the trope that comes in the literal hundreds, rather than trans people or any other minority.
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@CaballeroShotg1 @Ccmontysbackup @xnarutoxkenshin yeah, while Shimakaze ended up doing a *lot* for the femboy community despite being a cis woman, it's really funny that she's in this image still, LMAO
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This is probably the biggest one, as Daisuke refers to the symbol on Bridget's hood as a transgender symbol, like the rest of Japan seems to, going by Japanese wikipedia, and how it's been unchanged for years. he even uses the word トランスジェンダー (Toransujendā) (Transgender).
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@EfiWeona @Plastik_Child that happens in XX, and Johnny finding out Bridget was a guy at the time is referenced in Xrd, too but in Strive, Johnny explicitly uses the same intro line he uses for every other female playable character, because Bridget is a trans woman now LOL
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@suuslimefan @deth39 until the part where Bridget specifically only decided to try and disprove said myth because her parents were upset about her not being able to be their son (and never herself), comes up. it's not "throwing all that out", it's having her ask herself what she wants for herself LOL
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@seanhiruki no matter how many times you point to older games and Bridget's attempts to be a man for her parents, it won't change what Bridget is now. is it "poorly translated and secretly girly", which is still a blatant lie, or is it "subpar" ending only, make up your mind.
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if the deniers are the ones sending these bots my way, they're spineless cowards, resorting to this in an attempt to be rid of someone LOL even if it works and it gets this account suspended, Bridget will still be a trans woman as of Strive, cry about it LOL
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@EfiWeona damn, so you just have no actual argument anymore, huh? like, the game disagrees with you harshly, that's a lady, clearly.
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@Alexand85778210 @somari8591 first off, "into a trans"??? second, you don't even know what a retcon means, a retcon has to directly contradict past events, like if Bridget in Strive was said to have always been a trans girl, yes, that'd be a retcon, but what happened in Strive was just character development.
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@Sword_Domo @Clarky_3082 @dailyfggirls yeah, all the endings in Strive's Arcade Mode are part of the same story, and don't change what the overall story *is*, and there are no "alternative" endings. here's the source from the official website for what the article has, btw.
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@Mynam31sBryan @StrayAlliance @JupiterJavel @BigBear_4U @Seraphwhite02 @mahziel3 @FemboyArchive @XephyXeph @GACSacc @FemboysMemes oh, and I'm sure you could answer any GG lore or gameplay question thrown at you, and aren't just some dude that saw Bridget fanart back in the day and didn't even know she was from Guilty Gear until last year. and yeah, keep dreaming bud.
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@EfiWeona @Plastik_Child of course not, but Johnny still uses that specific line for every female playable character, including Bridget. and wow, that's an incredible reach to deny that Johnny just simply knows Bridget is a trans woman now, and addresses her like he would any other lady LOL
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@muse1224u he definitely has the potential to be one, and people have definitely engaged in said potential... I miss Dragalia Lost so much.........
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@EfiWeona it's one of three generic lines... it's either: "Would you like some extra bloodshed to go with your beating?" "Be sure and pay up if I win, okay?" or "Whoever you are, welcome to the show!" when Bridget is P1, against any opponent she doesn't have a special line for.
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it's so cool that people will jump onto any possible excuse to hate on a character sometimes. like I severely doubt Bridget was talking about Venom's skin color, esp considering the guy's outfit in XX/Xrd, and the fact he covers his face with his hair and has an emblem on it...
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@Mynam31sBryan @JupiterJavel @BigBear_4U @Seraphwhite02 @mahziel3 @FemboyArchive @XephyXeph @GACSacc @FemboysMemes is all you people do project? it's not a matter of being different from gender norms, Bridget identifies personally as a woman, not "as a joke", but genuinely, the creator has even backed as much, despite your attempts to disown him as the creator of Bridget.
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@junkballthree @KxSaber1 @Seraphwhite02 @Mynam31sBryan @BigBear_4U @JupiterJavel @mahziel3 @FemboyArchive @XephyXeph @GACSacc @FemboysMemes gee, I wonder why that still happens, could it be that when Bridget was backed by the creator's word, you treated it exactly like how people occasionally treated the creator's word for the past examples, and effectively said in some way it didn't count?
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@StrayAlliance @JupiterJavel @Mynam31sBryan @BigBear_4U @Seraphwhite02 @mahziel3 @FemboyArchive @XephyXeph @GACSacc @FemboysMemes it really wasn't, it was just doing something for her parents. also, I want you to take a really good fucking guess why Bridget didn't have dysphoria up until she tried being a man before her Strive Arcade Mode.
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@krzesio11 oh, so if we're taking the author's word here, you'll take the author's statement in both English and Japanese that Bridget currently self-identifies as a woman, making her a trans woman, yeah? Author has 100% control over what the character wants, after all.
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@StrayAlliance @JupiterJavel @Mynam31sBryan @BigBear_4U @Seraphwhite02 @mahziel3 @FemboyArchive @XephyXeph @GACSacc @FemboysMemes even if you were right, why does that even matter? why is it suddenly different when a trans woman character is given the same kind of body a cis woman character would be? It never mattered for femboys. and why the hell does she completely have to change her outfit entirely!?
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@EfiWeona @Plastik_Child Johnny still uses the same line for every female fighter, including Bridget, in Japanese too. Johnny did like, 6 years ago in-universe LOL
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@seanhiruki @B_D_T_G_ @lewdigibutter @dailyfggirls nice sad attempt of a lie made by some racist tourist angry that they can't call Bridget a femboy. Bridget says "ウチは... 女の子ですから!" or "I'm a girl!", not "I am girly after all", like y'all try to lie and claim it says. also nice projection bud
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@borudo_naito @treeIotl @TransSuporter69 @bskakadi you care about "truth", and yet you appeared in this thread purely to blatantly lie...?
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@Mynam31sBryan @junkballthree @KxSaber1 @Seraphwhite02 @BigBear_4U @JupiterJavel @mahziel3 @FemboyArchive @XephyXeph @GACSacc @FemboysMemes from what I've seen, the most recent text and writing the character has suggests male, but it's up to the creator's word in the end, even if he hasn't made a *statement* on it, like Daisuke has.
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@KxSaber1 @Seraphwhite02 @Mynam31sBryan @BigBear_4U @junkballthree @JupiterJavel @mahziel3 @FemboyArchive @XephyXeph @GACSacc @FemboysMemes more like any AMAB girl calling herself a girl (not girly, *girl*, despite y'all's attempts to lie about the Japanese language) is automatically "femboy" to y'all.
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@614Foxboy @The_Braystar @koeitan @What_if_Gig @HatokTalk good job proving their point in that it's "respect the Japanese artist/dev's vision/story" until they disagree with you!
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@EfiWeona Here's Johnny saying the line to Millia Rage, he also uses this line for Baiken, I-No, Ramlethal, Jack-O'...
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@EfiWeona @Plastik_Child bet, lemme go boot up the game right goddamn now and get your source since I'm *certain* you don't play the game LOL
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@JupiterJavel @Mynam31sBryan @StrayAlliance @BigBear_4U @Seraphwhite02 @mahziel3 @FemboyArchive @XephyXeph @GACSacc @FemboysMemes really, the only people that call others tourists are usually the ones that actually deserve to be called it LOL
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@EfiWeona as well as Bridget!
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@StrayAlliance @JupiterJavel @Mynam31sBryan @BigBear_4U @Seraphwhite02 @mahziel3 @FemboyArchive @XephyXeph @GACSacc @FemboysMemes not even close, and that's just copium y'all conjured up because you saw a dev's comment about Faust and a change made to a GG World. Bridget's been dressing the same kinda way every time she's been on screen, she can't exactly feel dysphoria if her own presentation affirmed it.
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@Mynam31sBryan @StrayAlliance @JupiterJavel @BigBear_4U @Seraphwhite02 @mahziel3 @FemboyArchive @XephyXeph @GACSacc @FemboysMemes you're never gonna change the creator's mind either :3 oh please, don't pretend to be some "long-time Guilty Gear fan", this bit is tired. and that's still a ridiculous accusation, a hypocritical one, too, considering why Bridget was considered a femboy in the first place lol
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@CRaleigh78 no matter how many times you repost this slop made by someone who has never played a Guilty Gear game in your life, I'll keep posting the response.
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@Mynam31sBryan @JupiterJavel @BigBear_4U @Seraphwhite02 @mahziel3 @FemboyArchive @XephyXeph @GACSacc @FemboysMemes again, more projection, y'all just put your own thoughts onto others thinking people won't look at you weird. the only reason Bridget was a femboy before was because of how she was raised, but at least Bridget spent 6 years living on her own, before becoming a trans woman.
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