@Hadley
Hadley
2 years
As seed stage investors we’ve seen very little correlation between traction at the time of investment and eventual results
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@alexgeana
Alex Geana
2 years
@Hadley because revenue is a lagging indicator of success and growth can be manipulated through access to capital
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@Hadley
Hadley
2 years
@alexgeana I think it’s more than really strong founding teams can raise their seed round with less traction
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@krystiangebis
Krystian Gebis
2 years
@Hadley What is the sample size?
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@Hadley
Hadley
2 years
@krystiangebis Around 160 seed stage investments over 11 years
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@AnandSheth2
Anand Sheth / ⚡Lightning-fast summaries
2 years
@Hadley If traction at this stage is not a good indicator, what would you say is? Founder? Product Fit? Market Size? Distribution?
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@Hadley
Hadley
2 years
@AnandSheth2 Founders/team is by far most important followed by market and product vision
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@peter_roach8
Peter Roach
2 years
@Hadley This statement is made with a broad brush. Details matter. Sectors and timing matter. Milestones per company differ from sector to sector. Be more specific and you’ll get better answers and make better investment decisions.
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@Hadley
Hadley
2 years
@peter_roach8 Sure, the main thing is it doesn’t hold other factors like founder quality constant
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@alexjh120
Alex Hartman
2 years
@Hadley What are the traits of the founder/team that you have found to outperform? I.e. what do you look for in founders? Is it analytical and pedigree or more intuition based?
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@Hadley
Hadley
2 years
@alexjh120 It’s really hard to generalize. Much more intuition than analytical/pedigree
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@wingod
Dennis Wingo
2 years
@Hadley What do you think is a better correlation?
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@Hadley
Hadley
2 years
@wingod Founders
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@TomSchryver
Tom Schryver
2 years
@Hadley Just checking, does this mean that when you have a team with deep experience in the space you don't need proof that "the dogs like the dog food"? Their experience makes you comfortable that they will be able to fine-tune a value prop and efficiently acquire customers?
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@Hadley
Hadley
2 years
@TomSchryver Lot of factors go into it but yes that’s the basic idea
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@sc0ttlaw
Scott Law
2 years
@Hadley 💯 In the first institutional round of financing, traction is a red herring and gives you a false sense of security!
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@Hadley
Hadley
2 years
@sc0ttlaw We’ll said
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@scottdwitt
Scott D. Witt | "Start with the Customer"
2 years
@Hadley @Hadley How is 'traction' being defined? ie squishy PMF based on free MVPs, or core products w/ realistic pricing? Is Competitive Landscape part of traction score? ie is early-traction considered in isolation, or against all possible customer solns?
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@Hadley
Hadley
2 years
@scottdwitt It was a subject score we gave every opportunity when making a decision
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@LiveSimulator
Blake McCorkle 🌻
2 years
@Hadley Is this because traction (or the value it projects) can be exaggerated? I interpreted your statement as negative initially, but is there a flip side to this disparity?
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@Hadley
Hadley
2 years
@LiveSimulator I think it’s more that many of the strongest founders are able to raise seed round with less traction and founders matter more than traction
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