@philippilk
Philip Pilkington
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8/ All of this is basically a repeat of what happened in the 1920s. It resulted in the Great Depression. But this time, only the West will sink into depression. The new BRICS+ bloc is building a seperate economic bloc and will continue to grow while the West wither on the vine.
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@philippilk
Philip Pilkington
2 years
1/ Now that the Nordstream pipelines are gone it's worth thinking about how a deindustrialisation of Europe via permantly high energy prices. ๐Ÿงต
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@philippilk
Philip Pilkington
2 years
2/ European manufacturing will no longer be economically viable. Energy inputs - one of the key inputs in manufacturing - will be too expensive to viably produce products. They will simply be cheaper to buy elsewhere.
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@philippilk
Philip Pilkington
2 years
3/ There is a good chance some of this manufacturing will move to America - but only in the very short-term. Why? Because investment in manufacturing creates demand for manufactured products. Manufacturing creates jobs in Europe, the workers buy the products.
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Philip Pilkington
2 years
4/ With no manufacturing jobs, Europeans will have far less purchasing power. If some of the manufacturing moves to America, it will be short-lived. America will realise that much of its export market has collapsed. Note that the EU makes up around 10% of US exports.
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@philippilk
Philip Pilkington
2 years
5/ Then there are the imports to the US. US continue to buy some but they will be massively more expensive due to higher input costs. The US will try to poach some of this manufacturing and onshore it, but there are numerous constraints here; skilled work, infrastructure etc.
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Philip Pilkington
2 years
6/ Crushing European manufacturing simply creates a black hole in Europe. This black hole sucks in everything around it as economic activity around its borders dries up. Europe will also have to respond by shutting out exports to try to revive its uncompetitive industry.
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Philip Pilkington
2 years
7/ Basically the only strategy for Europe will be to shut itself off and force its higher priced products on its residents. This will likely be accompanied by accelerated energy investment policies. This will result in yet more economic chaos for the West.
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@philippilk
Philip Pilkington
2 years
9/ The European energy war will likely go down in hitory, together with the Treaty of Versailles and the trade wars of the 1930s, as one of the biggest economic policy errors in history.
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@philippilk
Philip Pilkington
2 years
10/ Another thing: when Trump was elected on a platform of milder protectionism, many people rightly pointed to the 1920s and 1930s and warned against these policies. These same people appear to have supported these much more 1920s/30s-like policies this past year. Ironic.
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@philippilk
Philip Pilkington
2 years
11/ @TheCriticMag have published a full essay version of this thread. Guaranteed better than the original!
@TheCriticMag
The Critic
2 years
The economic collapse of Europe under debt and rising energy costs could trigger another Great Depression. @philippilk blames the damage done to global trade for the first one.
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@empireenjoyer10
Eurasian Emperor
2 years
@philippilk BRICS wonโ€™t go anywhere. Russia is dying and Chinaโ€™s economy is slowing. South Africa LMAO and India will be the only ones to grow, along with America, for the rest of the century.
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@BreakerMatrixX
Matrix Breaker
2 years
@philippilk @NinaByzantina During the great depression commodity oriented countries suffered much less than Europe . Think of Brazil for example.
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@kranktron
Bento Silva
2 years
@philippilk @ALuizCosta Very surprising NOT to include Brazil in the West! In fact, amazing!
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@Jebisabigfatmes
Chairman Jeb! ๐Ÿฅ‘๐ŸŒƒ๐Ÿ”ฐ๐Ÿ‘
2 years
@philippilk Ah yes how can the puny US stand up to the economic powerhouse of South Africa
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@lattenomics
Toxic Factuality
2 years
@philippilk BRICS+ wonโ€™t grow. Chinese economy is based on imports of food and raw materials, often from continents away, and exports of finished goods. It canโ€™t function without US maintained global order. Also ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ population is set to collapse by 50% next 20-30 years. Good luck with that.
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@unimranically
Imran
2 years
@philippilk Lmao what is this, 2010? I haven't heard someone talk about BRICS in forever
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@MikeHun34452827
Mike Hunt
2 years
@philippilk Europes energy will be replenished and create jobs in the new supply routes and renewables and other replacement energy sources. Propaganda man you talk garbageโ€ฆ.
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@ModernHeretic4
Modern Heretic
2 years
@philippilk @HBalintne As long as the withering is eco friendly and equitable what is the problem?
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@ck_gen
Real Louis-Napoleon Rukeyser
2 years
@philippilk BRICS are not separate their economies ultimately depend on exports and the US consumer providing the demand
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@aabid11670695
Aabid Amlani
2 years
@philippilk BRICS+ does not have the purchasing power. EU AND AMERICA COMBINED HAVE A GDP OF 40 TRILLION DOLLARS
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@AdGuillermo
Guillermo ad
2 years
@philippilk Not gonna happen
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@40_Years
Not the Apartheid Emerald Heir Pedo Guy/MG Saroff
2 years
@philippilk You get cause and effect mixed up here. The tariffs were driven by the great depression, not the other way around, and Smoot-Hawley, for example, remained law until after WWII.
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@skier_ib
IB
2 years
@philippilk Why so pessimistic about the US? It has energy and the economic structure is much more dynamic and pragmatic. True that current US elites are a big obstacle, but that can change quickly.
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@amiya_kashyap
Amiya Kashyap
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@philippilk I don't agree with this point.Among BRICSs, โ€ข Chinese economy is totally dependent on export to Europe & US. โ€ข Brazil:Agri Commodity; Russia: Mineral+ Agri commodities S A, India : won't be able to manage trade defecit & resulting CAD. Although, lower price provide cushion.
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