This is why
@neondatabase
we didn't invest in BYOC (bring your own cloud) and went the Snowflake route: database is a URL. Multi-tenancy is a huge deal
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@nikitabase
@neondatabase
Isn't it a huge deal primary for the vendor, though? Not necessarily for the customers.
Assume the vendor negotiated x/2 cloud prices - will it immediately drop the prices for all customers? Doubt so. With BYOC, any cloud discount is an immediate saving
@vanlightly
BYOC doesn't just promise to be cheaper. It's far cheaper in reality. We have 3 cases of BYOC (Scylla, RedPanda, Databricks), and all of them are significantly cheaper than any comparable serverless offerings. An extra benefit is that we can move to literally any cloud
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@isburmistrov
@neondatabase
I think it allows you to create a fundamentally better product. That can also be cheaper, but the price is set by competition and market, not COGs.
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@nikitabase
@neondatabase
Why don’t you offer both and let the customer decide what they want?
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@jaykreps
@neondatabase
Nikita: one thing that this misses is lock in. It is much easier for data that sits in customers account to be shared and used by a variety of tools/services. The data locked in a database is much harder to share
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@SameetAgarwal
@jaykreps
@neondatabase
Yes. Share ability and export to something like
@ApacheIceberg
should become a first class citizen. We are working on it.
Operational data is smaller so having a columnar copy is cheap
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