@jacobhtyler
Jacob Huneycutt
1 year
People who answer “significantly” or “slightly” to this have to reckon with: - Various states had church establishments up through 1833. - Substantial Sabbath laws were commonplace in many places until the early 20th century. - School prayer was widespread until the 1960s.
@JoshBuice
𝙅𝙤𝙨𝙝 𝘽𝙪𝙞𝙘𝙚
1 year
In order for Christian Nationalism as a Protestant project to be successful, how much will the Constitution of the United States need to be altered? #ChristianNationalism
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@jacobhtyler
Jacob Huneycutt
1 year
Of course, the question whether “nationalism” is an appropriate term to describe all this is very fair, considering this is all describing things *states* did. The First Amendment says “Congress shall make no law…”
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@realdaysoflore
Ardy O. Ell
1 year
@jacobhuneycutt_ If "altered" includes amendments, there are some which might have to be repealed. Particularly the 14th with how Supreme Court jurisprudence has expanded its scope and effect over the decades. That's up for debate though.
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@jacobhtyler
Jacob Huneycutt
1 year
@realdaysoflore There’s a difference between the 14th amendment per se, and 14th amendment as SCOTUS has come to make it be over the years.
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@RScottRoper
Scott Roper
1 year
@jacobhuneycutt_ The question is how much the 14th amendment changed the constitution. Sunday laws are considered constitutional and are still in place in parts of the country.
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@jacobhtyler
Jacob Huneycutt
1 year
@RScottRoper There’s a reason I said “Substantial Sabbath laws” —ones where most businesses had to be closed, etc. Laws remaining are very limited in scope and typically have to do with alcohol.
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@elimcgowan
Eli McGowan
1 year
@jacobhuneycutt_ I want all those things back, but no nationalism please.
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@jacobhtyler
Jacob Huneycutt
1 year
@elimcgowan That’s fine, but the mainstream outside the Christian Right is going to think of your position as “Christian Nationalism.”
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@DDFStrand
Daniel Strand
1 year
@jacobhuneycutt_ Minnesota just allowed beer above 3.2% to be sold on Sundays. Many other such blue laws still in place though slowly going away.
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@jacobhtyler
Jacob Huneycutt
1 year
@DDFStrand Indeed, though, milquetoast alcohol prohibition laws is not what I had in mind “substantial Sabbath laws.”
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@ZachBunchaNums
Zach B
1 year
@jacobhuneycutt_ It depends what you mean by Christian Nationalism. If you adopt Stephen Wolfe's vision for Christian Nationalism, then of course the Constitution would have to change.
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@MaverickMasons
James Mason, a clay jar
1 year
@jacobhuneycutt_ It’s wild to think about. Roger Williams founding Rhode Island to have a home for Baptists who were not treated well in the other colonies and vice versa.
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@PiousPatrol
pious-patrol
1 year
@jacobhuneycutt_ Did you know a state could indeed have no right to bear arms? Or have their own take on free speech, and it would still comport with the constitution because it's a document restricting the fed, not what states must mirror. Of course, one would hope "vote with your feet" works
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@Pathfinder4545
Pathfinder
1 year
@jacobhuneycutt_ People who answer "none" to this will have to recon with: the facts of history.
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@ColmanJohnM
John Colman
1 year
@jacobhuneycutt_ No one had an established church beyond 1833. We are near the point in which half of the history of the country has been one of no church establishments. If we take it after the ratification of the 1st Amendment we are looking at 2/3rd of our history w/o church establishments.
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