Me: “I’d like a raise.” Employer: “Nope.” Me: “I’m quitting to go work elsewhere, I’ve already accepted the role.” Employer: “Whoa! Hang on! Here’s a big raise, please stay.” If I accept the counter, how do I not set my reputation on fire? I’m not seeing it.

@elchefe @QuinnyPig Rough day at the office, huh?

@mgrollins @QuinnyPig How do you mean?

@elchefe @QuinnyPig And also, the company likely just created (or continued) a pay inequity for everyone who didn't force a counter-offer.

@AngelaRiggs_ @QuinnyPig

@elchefe @QuinnyPig I did it once and I really regret it still. I was comfortable where I was and stayed but I would have learned a lot more at the other shop.

@elchefe @QuinnyPig Doesn't get rid of other issues that'd get you thinking of the money too!

@elchefe @QuinnyPig Not only that but it marks you as a potential risk to leave, and you'll get pass over for opportunities you might have otherwise gotten. Never, ever, ever, accept the counter.

@elchefe @QuinnyPig yep never making this mistake as a hiring manager.

@elchefe @QuinnyPig Couldn’t agree with you all more.

@elchefe @QuinnyPig I think there's a generational gap. My dad gave the same advice that you and @QuinnyPig did above, but my millenial cohorts seem to think that threatening to move is the only way to get a raise. Maybe this says something about changes in the employee/employer relationship idk.

@elchefe @QuinnyPig I’m in nearly the same situation as OP. Except I haven’t gone back to HR to ask about my raise (later today). I don’t have another job lined up, but I am paid well below market average. About to bluff. Ur advice is timely

@elchefe @QuinnyPig Yup, my counters have always seemed “huge” and in the rear view mirror they are tiiiinnnyyyyy

@elchefe @QuinnyPig 1000% agree with @elchefe . There are *no* good things that come with accepting a counter-offer. Which means, think REALLY hard on accepting a new offer, it’s really a one-way street from there.

@elchefe @QuinnyPig Exactly. More painful is that offers like this come when a raise is overdue before the new job.

@elchefe @QuinnyPig Everything in life is a negotiation

@elchefe @QuinnyPig You also potentially set yourself up on the chopping block at a later date accepting. I've been there before, some uppers don't like being "strong-armed" like that. If you accept, don't be surprised later to be first to be let go.

@elchefe @QuinnyPig Why not? And start looking with a bigger lower bound in mind.

@elchefe @QuinnyPig I appreciate that advice and think there is truth there for the likes of FAANG and large players, but for startups we often have a runway and are constrained to cash injection events or planned comp adjustment windows. I have many team members that I plan to adjust but can't yet