Nothing is funnier than the retarded meme 'just do it on layer two' as if layer twos and what they can do are not COMPLETELY limited by what layer one can do. When you see this argument, know you are engaging with a moron.

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@ercwl @brian_trollz It might be a good idea to add a covenant that is simple, yet it reaches the functionality escape velocity.

@salvatoshi @ercwl @brian_trollz Honestly I'm about 3x less confident in the "simplify L1 even at the expense of more complicated L2s" concept than I was five years ago. The challenge is that when you can trade off between L1 bug risk and L2 bug risk, it's not actually clear that the latter is better!

@salvatoshi @ercwl @brian_trollz If you have an L1 consensus failure, stuff breaks core devs scramble for a day, but eventually things are alright again. With an L2 bug, people could permanently lose lots of money.

@VitalikButerin @salvatoshi @brian_trollz What are your thoughts on OP_CAT to get us there? It’s super simple and allows us to verify merkle root hashes on the stack and run state machines which basically opens up for channel-free L2s (recursive covenants, plasmas, MATT which @salvatoshi likes).

@ercwl @VitalikButerin @salvatoshi Vitalik can keep piling up mountains of problems over on Ethereum.

@VitalikButerin @salvatoshi @ercwl @brian_trollz True, coordination and realigning goals downstream is really the only burden on the engineering teams

@VitalikButerin @salvatoshi @ercwl @brian_trollz If you're dealing with an L1 consensus failure, it's true that things might get a bit chaotic for a day.

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@VitalikButerin @salvatoshi @ercwl @brian_trollz Vitalik, what are you talking about? L1 is already congested enough, the less important data of L1 package it and place it into L2. Isn't it possible to process more blockchain information faster?

@VitalikButerin @salvatoshi @ercwl @brian_trollz Google's Ai published racial discrimination. How do you feel about this?

@VitalikButerin @salvatoshi @ercwl @brian_trollz Your thoughts on #Dencun ? Will we see a big improvement on the blockchain?

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@VitalikButerin @salvatoshi @ercwl @brian_trollz Input Call Data is the answer - its a Layer 0,

@VitalikButerin @salvatoshi @ercwl @brian_trollz So why not @ethscriptions ?

@VitalikButerin @salvatoshi @ercwl @brian_trollz Would the enshrined zkEVM be an example of relieving L2 security risk? If the circuits shared by L1/L2 zkEVMs have a bug and an L2 is attacked because of that, L1 is also attachable and hence an L1 fix (perhaps and a re-org)) can immediately step in to fix it.

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@VitalikButerin @salvatoshi @ercwl @brian_trollz L1 cannot remain simplistic, if it is a burden to build on top of it. It is impossible to outsource everything to higher layers. A protocol has to evolve as time goes on, and it is the best to enshrine various processes which can be thought as common goods. It is the most…

@VitalikButerin @salvatoshi @ercwl @brian_trollz Or one could consider enterprise solution blockchains already deploying instant finality out of the box 🤔 wonder how many of those blockchains there are?

@VitalikButerin @salvatoshi @ercwl @brian_trollz The root problem of what you are describing is that rollups have on-chain non-deterministic behaviour. They write down state roots and other data derived from the rollup's social consensus. That is a bridging problem. Rip it out. Scale up L2.

@VitalikButerin @salvatoshi @ercwl @brian_trollz what do you think of the starknet launch vitalik?

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