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@Smash_edu Character & MU specific ofc, & Mk has one of the best for this but- In the example with Mk v byleth, if Mk tries to hold f smash and react, the byleth can react to you committing to holding a smash attack on ledge and just drop from ledge into a guaranteed buffered jump > fair…

@Smash_edu Me who plays Ike, who has some of the worst smash attacks in this game

@Smash_edu no this easily gets beat by getup attack or just waiting lol

@Smash_edu @CharlesThoren_ is jumping from ledge not allowed or

@Smash_edu Idk about this one chief. This is just asking to eat a ledge jump into aerial combo

@Smash_edu This works until your opponent discovers that he has a ledge attack

@Smash_edu Do this all the time with Palu Down smash! Can catch roll and normal get up on reaction and if you get the sour spot you can straight up kill characters like Mario, Roy, Pyra, etc. as the angle is so nasty they cat get back even with a double jump!

@Smash_edu -cries in Duck Hunt-

@Smash_edu @Kiingofcoffe

@Smash_edu Also you should talk about people losing invincibility due to higher percentage, especially with rolls off ledge on to stage I hear " but I rolled " way too often and they're always in awe/shock when I explain why they ended up getting hit

@Smash_edu get up attacks

@Smash_edu Nobody jump?

@Smash_edu Can someone tell my why a person on the ledge cant just wait out the smash attack and punish the end-lag? Or does this assume that the smash attack is spaced to hit the one that’s at disadvantage

@Smash_edu @Shoflowers

@Smash_edu Bruh I’m losing brain cells now lol

@Smash_edu you guys are really shaking up the meta with this one

@Smash_edu this has *got* to be bait

@Smash_edu I do this then down B 9/10 times they get up attack

@Smash_edu Doesn't Meta Knight have one of the fastest forward smashes? This seems incredibly specific to him